Wireless charging has been around for a good few years now, and USB C are also popular for several years. Most of new USB C phones are coming with wireless charging capabilities. But most of popular wireless chargers are still micro ports so far.
Why are most of the wireless chargers still micro ports? It's because of different agreements. As most of QI wireless chargers are Qualcomm QC agreement, while most of USB C chargers use USB-IF Power Delivery agreement. If you use a PD USB C charger to charge a QC agreement wireless charger on a usb c phone, it will cause some incompatibility, overheating and charging instability.
It seems there is no good way to solve these problems now. I'm also expecting to use a better USB C wireless charger without any compatible and overheating issues. Because I almost cannot find any micro cables around me.
Is there any other inconvenience of using a micro wireless charger? When can we change to USB C wireless charging? Let's talk about this topic together.
ekjbkt617013 said:
Wireless charging has been around for a good few years now, and USB C are also popular for several years. Most of new USB C phones are coming with wireless charging capabilities. But most of popular wireless chargers are still micro ports so far.
Why are most of the wireless chargers still micro ports? It's because of different agreements. As most of QI wireless chargers are Qualcomm QC agreement, while most of USB C chargers use USB-IF Power Delivery agreement. If you use a PD USB C charger to charge a QC agreement wireless charger on a usb c phone, it will cause some incompatibility, overheating and charging instability.
It seems there is no good way to solve these problems now. I'm also expecting to use a better USB C wireless charger without any compatible and overheating issues. Because I almost cannot find any micro cables around me.
Is there any other inconvenience of using a micro wireless charger? When can we change to USB C wireless charging? Let's talk about this topic together.
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Why does it really matter? In my experience, Micro USB cables are cheaper, and much easier to come by. I can walk into a gas station and buy one, but not USB-C.
Also, I have bought 3 wireless chargers since getting my S9. A stand up CHOETECH, the new panda pad they have, and a car mount by Iottie. All 3 have come with a cable. I also have dozens of micro usb cables from old devices.
While USB-C is the future, it's not mainstream. It's only really being offered in higher end devices. Until it's more standard, the cables are slightly more expensive because they aren't being as mass produced.
Is it more convenient? Sure. Will it replace Micro-Usb? Most likely. Until it becomes more standard on electronics as a whole, your likely going to see things like charging pads, Bluetooth headphones, etc still coming with micro usb. It's still the most used standard.
Keep in mind, USB-C is set to replace more than just micro usb. It can be used to replace Hdmi, and I think I read even networking cables (not that most people go wired anymore). It's already replacing power cords in MacBooks. It's truly a one cable to rule them all, but it's got years before it's done away with everything it can replace.
... I'm using the official Samsung wireless convertible charger, with a USB-C port.
The only issue I find with having a micro USB cable on the wireless charger is that you can't simply unplug it and plug it into your USB-c phone when you need to charge faster.
todd3835 said:
Why does it really matter? In my experience, Micro USB cables are cheaper, and much easier to come by. I can walk into a gas station and buy one, but not USB-C.
Also, I have bought 3 wireless chargers since getting my S9. A stand up CHOETECH, the new panda pad they have, and a car mount by Iottie. All 3 have come with a cable. I also have dozens of micro usb cables from old devices.
While USB-C is the future, it's not mainstream. It's only really being offered in higher end devices. Until it's more standard, the cables are slightly more expensive because they aren't being as mass produced.
Is it more convenient? Sure. Will it replace Micro-Usb? Most likely. Until it becomes more standard on electronics as a whole, your likely going to see things like charging pads, Bluetooth headphones, etc still coming with micro usb. It's still the most used standard.
Keep in mind, USB-C is set to replace more than just micro usb. It can be used to replace Hdmi, and I think I read even networking cables (not that most people go wired anymore). It's already replacing power cords in MacBooks. It's truly a one cable to rule them all, but it's got years before it's done away with everything it can replace.
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:good::good: You're right. USB-C is the future, but it's not mainstream now. We still need Micro cables somewhere.
Cost. It's not a selling point so it's not worth the extra $ to upgrade it to USB type-c. The convenience of type-c is the ability to put it in in any direction. A wireless charger doesn't get plugged back in and unplugged. A manufacturer like Samsung is going to have a huge surplus of type-c so it makes sense for them to use it because there's no point of having different types in stock. But for things you buy on Amazon most of those are made from the same factories in China who I'm sure have millions micro USB in stock. There's just no incentive. Doesn't really benefit anything other than the niche person that wants to plug it in to their phone. Most by 1, plugging in, put it wherever it's going to go like a nightstand and that's where it's going to sit until it dies lol.
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I'm in the UK and want to save $20 on the charger
I have a couple of Micro USB wall chargers that i use on my blackberry. They will fit the N1 and plug straight into the wall. Would they be safe to use, to charge my N1. (These charges are rated 750mHA).
I know the N1 will be supplied with a micro USB cable. I also have an IPhone wall socket plug head, the ones where you just put the USB cable into the plug and then it goes into the wall. Are these safe to use too, for charging the N1?
Thanks
the Nexus one connector is standar microUSB and therefore will work with standard microUSB cables and chargers.
So there is no type of resistor or transformer in the official plug head? ... to restrict power. I thought there would be as my blackberry charger has a 750mha rating on it.
I can understand the USB cable will work as its a limited power output from a laptop port. But just wanted to check the official wall outlet plug current isn't being restricted. The last thing i want to do is fry my new N1.
Cheers,
Just plugged mine into my old nokia classic micro usb and it is charging fine
The specs for the wall charger are 5V and 1A.
http://www.htc.com/europe/product/nexusone/specification.html
do what i did. remove the charger from your basket and use the supplied USB with an old htc charger if you have one. If not get one for a few quid from ebay why spend $20 when you can get one for $5 odd from the market/ebay.
I can only speak anecdotally, but I used a Blackberry Storm charger and nothing exploded
this mini, micro, A B stuff is annoying. to clarify for my simple mind, will usb cables that fit into my G1 fit into the N1? or is it a different size?
Last year, Micro USB was decided as the open standard for cell phone chargers, so this should be replacing Mini USB as seen on earlier phones (BlackBerries, G1) in instances where the port isn't.. some.. proprietary crap.
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this mini, micro, A B stuff is annoying. to clarify for my simple mind, will usb cables that fit into my G1 fit into the N1? or is it a different size?
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No. The G1 used Mini USB, this is Micro USB. The phone comes with a charger and USB (USB-A 2.0 to Micro USB 2.0) cable.
It's not propitary so it will work with any other charger.
It's a funny thing to find. It's too new to be widely available
I went looking for a car charger and a straight USB A->Micro B cable. The former I found by poking in all the packages for different phones until I found it (found a Samsung charger that uses it, although they did want nearly £30 for the damned thing). The USB A->Micro B I drew a blank - the more clueless salesmen tried to convince me that I was mistaken and I meant Mini!
I thought the blackberry used them but I looked in the pile of blackberry cables the local shops had and they were all mini. Even my local electronics store has every kind of USB imaginable *except* micro.
Edit: Found one! (might be useful for UK users). It's out of stock though... http://www.cableuniverse.co.uk/catalog/cables/USB-A-to-Micro-USB-B-Cable.html
Just so you guys know, not all micro USB's are the same. I bought a car charger from a local Tmo store last week (I forget what phones it was for), and although it "worked" when the plug was perfectly perpendicular to the phone, it had quite a bit of lateral play (which the OEM plug does not), meaning anytime it moved in the car, it would stop charging.
I returned it, and am now just waiting for HTC to decide to manufacture accessories for this ever increasing bundle of worry...
I am using a TomTom charger for my N1, also the HTC hero and the Motorola Droid chargers works to charge my N1.
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Just so you guys know, not all micro USB's are the same. I bought a car charger from a local Tmo store last week (I forget what phones it was for), and although it "worked" when the plug was perfectly perpendicular to the phone, it had quite a bit of lateral play (which the OEM plug does not), meaning anytime it moved in the car, it would stop charging.
I returned it, and am now just waiting for HTC to decide to manufacture accessories for this ever increasing bundle of worry...
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Seems like it was just a poor quality charger. If it's a micro USB, it should be built to specific specifications. I already bought a few chargers (including a car charger) and cables (for work, home and travel), and they all work perfectly. Technically ALL micro USBs should be the same, unless the manufacturer didn't follow the standards.
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Seems like it was just a poor quality charger. If it's a micro USB, it should be built to specific specifications. I already bought a few chargers (including a car charger) and cables (for work, home and travel), and they all work perfectly. Technically ALL micro USBs should be the same, unless the manufacturer didn't follow the standards.
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Hah, just my luck; I pick up the one out of spec micro USB charger in the entire city!
Although, it must be that particular T-Mobile supplier, as I went to another store and test fitted the same charger, and it had excessive wiggle as well. Either that or my phone is just lame...
I just got a universal charger in Tesco for £5 that has changeable heads (Micro, Mini, Samsung, Sony Ericsson and Nokia 2mm)
Works perfect
- The cable is standard USB. You can use it to charge the phone from your PC, or use another micro USB cable or charger you have
- The Nexus comes with a US 2 pin charger that is dual voltage - works in UK and US. Just spend 50p and get a US to UK convertor plug.
- The charger is rates 5v 1A, so if you have another microUSB charger with the same voltage use that.
I find charging from the charger results in more battery life than USB. The only explanation is charge rate because USB is 500mA and the charger is 1000mA
PS. I removed the UK charger from the order too. You get the US charger regardless in the box.
I lost my usb cable and charger. I need to get a replacement. Where do I get such a thing?
THX!
Your mobile carrier should be selling a smilar one but it won't be htc
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Most Micro-USB cables will do, as long as you make sure they work for synching data, not just charging. Apparently some cheap ones will only charge, no synch data. You can find them at Best Buy or computer stores. I've even seen them at office supply stores and Target. Or you can buy them online at any number of places, like Monoprice, Amazon or Newegg.
Similarly, any charger that has a USB port will work with a Micro-USB cable to charge the phone.
So this cable is called a "Micro-USB" Cable?
And it is not some proprietary thing from HTC?
Thank God!
convolution said:
So this cable is called a "Micro-USB" Cable?
And it is not some proprietary thing from HTC?
Thank God!
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lol very well done.
convolution said:
So this cable is called a "Micro-USB" Cable?
And it is not some proprietary thing from HTC?
Thank God!
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Those are all correct!
I've tried several cables and chargers, including a cable from Boxwave, the sync cable and charger from my Logitech Harmony remote, and (I think) the charger for my Motorola Bluetooth headset. They all work.
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Those are all correct!
I've tried several cables and chargers, including a cable from Boxwave, the sync cable and charger from my Logitech Harmony remote, and (I think) the charger for my Motorola Bluetooth headset. They all work.
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Micro USB is pretty well standardized. I use the charge/sync cable from my Logitech MX revolution mouse and it works just fine.
One thing I would recommend is NOT going to a t-mobile store. Carrier accessories are often 10x + more expensive than from other stores, especially compared to online. Its just goddamn highway robbery the prices they sell those things for lol.
Yeah, the micro-USB interface is an industry standard (in fact, all future cell phones manufactured for use in Europe are required to use it). Very useful for the cable portion (if you check around online or in third-party stores, you can usually pick up one of the Blackberry cables for only a couple of bucks).
One thing you should take note off when buying the charger portion though is supported amperage. The USB spec is limited to only 500mA, so that's what many of the generic chargers will output. I think the HTC charger is 1A though. 500mA should be fine if you are only going to charge while the phone is off, but if you will be using the phone heavily while plugged in, you'll probably want the 1A variety (also charges faster).
Just wanted to rant about how the most universal USB port is still so un-universal. I went to my buddy’s house last night for a party, and my phone died like 20 minutes after I got there. He had a few micro USB cables, but no one had a Type C. I know it’s my fault for not having my own cable, but man, what a pain. I can’t wait until it actually is the norm.
I would say it was your fault for having a dead battery!
I bought a pair of adapters so I can use other people’s Micro USB. There’s a bunch on amazon if you just search for type c adapters.
Coycaine said:
I would say it was your fault for having a dead battery!
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You're right-- it was my fault, but in the past when this would happen, I would have been able to use their chargers. I know it's my fault, but since getting this new phone, it's kinda a pain.
dianestory2 said:
I bought a pair of adapters so I can use other people’s Micro USB. There’s a bunch on amazon if you just search for type c adapters.
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I have the adapter at home that came with the G5, but I have it on one of my old micro usb cables. I know that if I took it off to bring to someone's house, I'd totally lose it and then be down a cable at my house. But that's not a bad idea. Maybe I should invest in some additional adapters to keep in my car.
kendrick8997 said:
You're right-- it was my fault, but in the past when this would happen, I would have been able to use their chargers. I know it's my fault, but since getting this new phone, it's kinda a pain.
I have the adapter at home that came with the G5, but I have it on one of my old micro usb cables. I know that if I took it off to bring to someone's house, I'd totally lose it and then be down a cable at my house. But that's not a bad idea. Maybe I should invest in some additional adapters to keep in my car.
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Just messing with you man! But what he said is right. Grab a couple pairs of them for $20 and dont even worry if you do happen to lose them. The ones I bought could fit in my wallet if needed.
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I have the adapter at home that came with the G5, but I have it on one of my old micro usb cables. I know that if I took it off to bring to someone's house, I'd totally lose it and then be down a cable at my house. But that's not a bad idea. Maybe I should invest in some additional adapters to keep in my car.
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You could buy one of these adapter sets that go on your keychain. http://www.amazon.com/TechMatte-Con...9&sr=8-3&keywords=micro+usb+to+type+c+adapter
As long as you have your keys, you'll be able to use the other cables.
waynerbbx said:
You could buy one of these adapter sets that go on your keychain. http://www.amazon.com/TechMatte-Con...9&sr=8-3&keywords=micro+usb+to+type+c+adapter
As long as you have your keys, you'll be able to use the other cables.
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omg that's perfect. I just bought it now. Thanks!!!
kendrick8997 said:
You're right-- it was my fault, but in the past when this would happen, I would have been able to use their chargers. I know it's my fault, but since getting this new phone, it's kinda a pain.
I have the adapter at home that came with the G5, but I have it on one of my old micro usb cables. I know that if I took it off to bring to someone's house, I'd totally lose it and then be down a cable at my house. But that's not a bad idea. Maybe I should invest in some additional adapters to keep in my car.
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in the past it was also the same when micro USB was released whiles everyone was using the mini USB, you will get this problem with a new standard adoption, you have to give it time, and as many has stated, type C has not matured yet.
Just picked this up.
USB Type C Adapter,*Spigen® [56k Resistor to Meet USB-C to Micro USB Standard] Convert Connector Compatible with LG G5, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, OnePlus 2, HTC 10, Apple Macbook [2-Pack] SGP11881 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A1EUVHQ/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_LUjjxb41FXA46
Totally worth it for $8.
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Any adapter will do, power drawn from a micro USB will not cause any harm to your phone, so these manufacture stating 56K resistor is just following the marketing plot to increase sales, but for a proper USB type C cable, a 56K resistor is needed.
I look at the S7 of mine that has micro USB and curse at why Samsung didn't put USB type c in it. I know why they didn't because of the Gear VR but it's really annoying.
I now have 4 devices that use type c and have bought loads of cables too to make sure I have no issues.
I love type c format. Very Apple like with the lightning cable but far more universal.
Yeah, we should never advance technology because it's inconvenient... LOL
I already have several compatible cables and chargers.
The annoying thing is manufacturer's aren't adopting it fast enough.
Just buy and carry a small adapter from micro-USB to USB Type-C. It is smaller than a cable.
The transition is always painful, specially for early adopters.
That's the whole beauty of having a phone with a removable battery. If I'm going out the evening, I swap batteries so there is no worry my phone is gonna die. If need be, I have a type c cable in my car. I bought several cables and adapters when I got the phone so I'd never be caught with a dead phone.
i always have an Adapter with me inside my Portemonnaie's coin section.
i also have three Adapters on fixed cables (work, bed, home pc) and use the LG cable inside my car since its short.
i have no complaints so far since this was not as expensive as buying new cables.
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Buy extra cables, I have the tech mattes that are spec'd correctly and I leave it in the car for the car charger so I'm never without a cable.
I got my awesome new OnePlus 6T a couple weeks ago. I upgraded from a Nokia 6.1. Both have USB-C connectors.
After I got my Nokia 6.1 I bought about 6 various cheap USB-C charging cables to have as spares... in the office, cars, bathroom, kitchen, etc.
All of my cheap charging cables will charge my Nokia 6.1 but none of them will charge my OP6T.
I can charge my OP6T with the Nokia OEM cable and with the OnePlus OEM cable... why will none of my other cables charge the OP6T?? Are there wires missing out of cheap generic charging cables??
You can buy original from OnePlus or from Aliexpress, Gearbest, Geekbuy, Joybuy, Tomtop. The Dash charger & cable it's WORTH every penny!
On oneplus cost more, like 19 euro. On others 3-4 $
Beware of cheap cables without the proper 56k resistor in them. Improper use can damage the charger and device.
I've never used the factory cable with my 6T, but I've never used the DashCharger either. Do these cables not work with any charger / PCs?
It work, but why ? You'll never have Dash charge, that means Speed charging!
USE! the OEM cable only do not mix cables/brick as they're not meant for other devices, For example OnePlus Cable's do not follow Type C specification wouldn't advise using them on any other device.
I just looked through the box, and read the little user manual booklet, it says:
"connect the USB Type-C cable to the USB port on your device"
"Note: Fast charging can only be achieved by using the OnePlus original product USB cable and travel adapter"
Nowhere does it say that some USB-C cables don't work. And nowhere does it say to not use any other cables or chargers.
So, there is a 56Kohm resistor inside the cable? Is this only in OnePlus cables? What is the purpose of the resistor?
I just found this article, I think I understand now. Don't buy cheap USB-C cables!
https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/how-to-find-safe-usb-type-c-cables
Although their doesn't appear to be any problems with the charging, for some reason when i put my phone on charge [Using samsung fast charger 40W] it will play the charging vibration and notification multiple times before it stops, the most its happened to me is around 3 times, just wondering if this is normal or a charger/software problem
Assume its a USB-C to USB-C Samsung charger? I never had a good experience with Samsung chargers for any device that isn't Samsung. My last 2 Pixels (2XL & 4XL), before moving to Nothing 1 never charged off the Samsung chargers. I just tested a USB-A to USB-C Samsung block with a third party USB cable, and my Nothing 1 charged successfully, but it isn't a fast charge 40W USB-C one.
I think a while ago Samsung blocks weren't quite correct to match the USB-C standard so didn't work for most devices, but I may be wrong. That was a good few years ago though.
I would try a different USB cable first, just in case the USB-C cable isn't compatible. I have learnt the hard way some USB-C cables are charge only cables and don't work in "smarter" chargers as the internals of the cable are wrong. It's a long shot though.
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Assume its a USB-C to USB-C Samsung charger? I never had a good experience with Samsung chargers for any device that isn't Samsung. My last 2 Pixels (2XL & 4XL), before moving to Nothing 1 never charged off the Samsung chargers. I just tested a USB-A to USB-C Samsung block with a third party USB cable, and my Nothing 1 charged successfully, but it isn't a fast charge 40W USB-C one.
I think a while ago Samsung blocks weren't quite correct to match the USB-C standard so didn't work for most devices, but I may be wrong. That was a good few years ago though.
I would try a different USB cable first, just in case the USB-C cable isn't compatible. I have learnt the hard way some USB-C cables are charge only cables and don't work in "smarter" chargers as the internals of the cable are wrong. It's a long shot though.
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I've tried the one provided by nothing, and the one that came with Samsung, it could be an os issue in which case I might flash the stock image then update
I have the same issue with samsung 25W charger.
Does anyone happen to know which charger would be best to buy for nothing phone?
So I use my old Google Pixel chargers. They work. The official nothing charger is probably the best one to use to be honest:
Nothing Phone (1) Power (45W) - Nothing (United Kingdom)
Fuel everything you need. Super fast, reliable 45W charging with PD3.0. With the official Phone (1) adaptor. Free shipping.
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I also use this on my work desk so I can charge and watch things. There are probably better wireless chargers though:
NORDMÄRKE Wireless charging stand, bamboo - IKEA
NORDMÄRKE Wireless charging stand, bamboo Do you work from home and need to charge your phone easily – while using it – in your home office? This wireless charging stand with a bamboo base has a stylish look that blends in with your home decor.
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