Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the OnePlus 6 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I wanted to buy it, but I was held back by this video:
The software is not final, still in preview.
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I wanted to buy it, but I was held back by this video:
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... totally different to the results of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_rmgrXvGJE.
I wouldn't count too much on these videos. In this one, for instance, low light photo shots have different iso values. So this comparison doesn't say much about noise and image quality differences.
There are other important spec concerning the camera we don't know yet. Quality of af, image stabilizer etc. There is no comparison, where attention is paid to it. The S9+ is supposed to have a slow af (reviews), what about OP6?
I'm also skeptical about the camera of the OP 6. But mine is coming on Thursday. Then I will test by my own. Cannot be worth than the image quality of the OP5.
Where did you see that the iso values are different? I suppose they have not used double standards because that would be a cheat.
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... totally different to the results of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_rmgrXvGJE.
I wouldn't count too much on these videos. In this one, for instance, low light photo shots have different iso values. So this comparison doesn't say much about noise and image quality differences.
There are other important spec concerning the camera we don't know yet. Quality of af, image stabilizer etc. There is no comparison, where attention is paid to it. The S9+ is supposed to have a slow af (reviews), what about OP6?
I'm also skeptical about the camera of the OP 6. But mine is coming on Thursday. Then I will test by my own. Cannot be worth than the image quality of the OP5.
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Anyway I'll wait for mix 8 and then I'll decide what to buy.
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I wanted to buy it, but I was held back by this video:
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Same here. I have Pixel2. I like op6 except its camera. Reviews are totally mixed. Confused as op6 community is going to be much better than pixel2.
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Aperture and iso values are indicated on the pictures in this video.
cyberz said:
Where did you see that the iso values are different? I suppose they have not used double standards because that would be a cheat.
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Anyway I'll wait for mix 8 and then I'll decide what to buy.
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My misunderstanding, I thought you was talking about the video that I have posted.
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Aperture and iso values are indicated on the pictures in this video.
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https://www.phonearena.com/news/One...y-S9-Plus-iPhone-X-camera-comparison_id105077
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Aperture and iso values are indicated on the pictures in this video.
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Since the op6 had higher iso than s9
wouldnt that be responsible for noise? i wouldve thought if you lowered iso then the op6 wouldve outperformed the s9 since it was head to head
Just got it... just one pic of OP 5 compared to OP 6. Short on time for more pics at the moment..
First pic is OP5. Despite lower iso value more noise. Second pic is OP 6.
The comparison do not say much now. Need to test it in daily life..
PS: don´t no, why pic of OP6 turned around after upload. Hope it doesn't mind..
virtyx said:
Since the op6 had higher iso than s9
wouldnt that be responsible for noise? i wouldve thought if you lowered iso then the op6 wouldve outperformed the s9 since it was head to head
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This were exactly my thoughts.
Flying Fox said:
Just got it... just one pic of OP 5 compared to OP 6. Short on time for more pics at the moment..
First pic is OP5. Despite lower iso value more noise. Second pic is OP 6.
The comparison do not say much now. Need to test it in daily life..
PS: don´t no, why pic of OP6 turned around after upload. Hope it doesn't mind..
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So you have OP6 Please, try to crop inside a shot with low light or with shadows a little object with detail, i.e. an emblem, a clock, ecc... Try before at low iso.
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So you have OP6 Please, try to crop inside a shot with low light or with shadows a little object with detail, i.e. an emblem, a clock, ecc... Try before at low iso.
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I´ve not much time at the moment. Did just pictures of my watch. Comparison OP5 and OP 6. Looks awful on the last one. Tried to reproduce. Same. Iso 200. Sorry no crop for now. First pic OP5, second OP6. Other pics of OP 6 look better. In next post raw pics, converted of course, inclusive crops, please wait few minutes
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I´ve not much time at the moment. Did just pictures of my watch. Comparison OP5 and OP 6. Looks awful on the last one. Tried to reproduce. Same. Iso 200. Sorry no crop for now. First pic OP5, second OP6. Other pics of OP 6 look better. In next post raw pics, converted of course, inclusive crops, please wait few minutes
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Figured, in fact it would not be necessary. I asked only for my curiosity. In fact, it is also a stupid test: the photos must be admired in their entirety, without crop.
The photos you have posted seem to me very good, even those of oneplus 5. :good:
1, OP6: DNG converted with LR
2, OP6: Crop
3, OP6: noise reduced and little optimized
4, OP5: same with crop
ISO 1600
OP 5 vs OP 6. ISO 3200 pro mode, jpegs out of phone. Again, not very representative, just first impression
1, OP5 jpg OOC
2, OP6 jpg OOC
3, OP5 dng converted without changes
4, OP6 dng converted without changes
all ISO 3200 to create "worst condition"
(again don´t know why second pic changes orientation after upload... )
1, OP5 jpg OOC
2, OP6 jpg OOC
3, OP5 dng converted without changes
4, OP6 dng converted without changes
all ISO 3200 to create "worst condition"
What are the new inventions?
Poloasis said:
The software is not final, still in preview.
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What are the newly added features for the front and rear camera?
This looks like awesome :laugh:, where can we purchase the smartphone?
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I don't get impressed by technology much, but the Pixel 2's camera is truly impressive. I think it's better even than what reviews are saying. Every other phone I've owned I've been able to get good photos if I held it right, in the right light, with no movement, and the perfect combination of factors. With the Pixel 2, I find it nearly impossible to take a bad photo. Everything comes out good.
Let's share some of our favorite Pixel 2 shots.
(These obviously are down-scaled so the clarity isn't going to be the same as full-res)
Night time picture of full moon. No edits. Flash off everything else auto.
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I don't get impressed by technology much, but the Pixel 2's camera is truly impressive. I think it's better even than what reviews are saying. Every other phone I've owned I've been able to get good photos if I held it right, in the right light, with no movement, and the perfect combination of factors. With the Pixel 2, I find it nearly impossible to take a bad photo. Everything comes out good.
Let's share some of our favorite Pixel 2 shots.
(These obviously are down-scaled so the clarity isn't going to be the same as full-res)
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Some lovely photos dude! My sentiments too, really love this phone and the camera capabilities. It's only going to get better with the visual core and machine learning for portrait shots.
Agreed
sstanton86 said:
Some lovely photos dude! My sentiments too, really love this phone and the camera capabilities. It's only going to get better with the visual core and machine learning for portrait shots.
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Same with yours, and probably similarly I didn't set out to take photos, I was just out and around and snapped what I saw.
This was a very low light environment but the detail it retains in the pine needles is incredible.
Direct linking is not working I guess.
The last two I played around with the editing options in the GPhoto app.
The rum and coke makes a good wallpaper.
sstanton86 said:
Some lovely photos dude! My sentiments too, really love this phone and the camera capabilities. It's only going to get better with the visual core and machine learning for portrait shots.
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great shots :good:
hrd+ mode was on or off?
have you tuned those pics using snapseed etc ?
joyshvabra said:
great shots :good:
hrd+ mode was on or off?
have you tuned those pics using snapseed etc ?
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Thanks! HDR+ was on on all of them by default. Got some truly amazing ones as well as those that day, was such an amazing backdrop. All are non-edited and I didn't use Snapseed.
Also I've only just discovered HDR Enhanced and HDR+ are two separate modes, still a little confused as to the difference, as I know HDR Enhanced does take longer to process. I've tried googling it but read a lot of conflicting information. So would be ace if someone who knew what they were talking about could explain the difference between them.
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Thanks! HDR+ was on on all of them by default. Got some truly amazing ones as well as those that day, was such an amazing backdrop. All are non-edited and I didn't use Snapseed.
Also I've only just discovered HDR Enhanced and HDR+ are two separate modes, still a little confused as to the difference, as I know HDR Enhanced does take longer to process. I've tried googling it but read a lot of conflicting information. So would be ace if someone who knew what they were talking about could explain the difference between them.
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HDR+ = auto HDR. App will decide whether HDR is needed or not based on the situation.
HDR enhanced= HDR always on.
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My only complaint is the Noise and artifacts that it has. But I have yet to have a good phone that does well on that front. I think it is amazing what they are able to do with mostly software.
Just starting to realize how the camera in general has consistancy as well as always being snappy.
Also found that the selfie camera is actually usable. High Dynamic Range is awesome!
Portrait Mode is okay but looking closely shows mishaps around the edges of things, ears etc. But. Considering that [emoji624] mode works on both cameras as well as working with software as the main supplier of quality I'm really impressed. The Pixel 2 is starting to grow on me. And I've had both G6, S8, S7, S6, HTC 10, 6P, MI 5s pixel port, MI Mix 2.
I've uploaded some Pixel 2 photos from Berlin and Prague. Camera still amazing. Most of the photos were taken with HDR+ Enhanced (I've stopped using HDR+ after the first 1 or 2 days). (I took 1400 photos/videos in 2 weeks with the Pixel 2 and Nexus 6P).
Honestly, anyone who had a Nexus 5X, 6P, Pixel 1 shouldn't be really impressed with photo quality, as this HDR+ quality was already great since the Nexus 5 2013 was released and the easy-detail, and the resolution quality is more or less the same since the Nexus 5X/6P (I haven't used the N6).
Now the focus speed, HDR+ processing speed, camera launch speed, capture speed, video quality and stabilization, etc etc. Those are other things that really improved in each device upgrade IMO.
Pixel 2 samples:
https://imgur.com/a/5NNDB
Nexus 6P/5X samples:
https://imgur.com/a/TwJwd
Nexus 5 (2013) samples:
[The old 5 also had great quality, but the MP difference is quite noticeable compared to 5X/6P/Pixel/Pixel 2. That HDR+ camera was IMO still superb for 2013/2014/2015 years before the 5X/6P and other smartphones were released, I honestly had to sell a Z5 Compact because I was missing the Nexus 5 camera]
https://imgur.com/a/TEPCc
I didn't want to start a new thread.......can anyone comment on these (P1 vs P2). Notice that ISO on P1 is much higher and yet images look the same and in some when you zoom in Pixel 1 is less blurry and just a better quality overall
https://photos.app.goo.gl/FTyfRvJHxWAx38e93
nice shots @duckstardeluxe
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My beautiful wife. Love the photo quality, too!
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I didn't want to start a new thread.......can anyone comment on these (P1 vs P2). Notice that ISO on P1 is much higher and yet images look the same and in some when you zoom in Pixel 1 is less blurry and just a better quality overall
https://photos.app.goo.gl/FTyfRvJHxWAx38e93
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I dont see much difference. I even prefer pixel 1 photos in there so it make me wonder why so much praise and hype for camera of pixel 2 when its not much different to last generation pixel.
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My beautiful wife. Love the photo quality, too!
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You have a lovely wife
Our Chihuahua. HDR+ Enhanced. No flash. No edits.
I did zoom in and take screenshot.
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I dont see much difference. I even prefer pixel 1 photos in there so it make me wonder why so much praise and hype for camera of pixel 2 when its not much different to last generation pixel.
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You have a lovely wife
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I ordered a replacement to see if my Pixel 2 is defective. Most indoor pictures I take with back camera come out better on Pixel 1
Made an album with the first two weeks of using the camera capabilities of the Pixel 2 https://photos.app.goo.gl/JCobMNrB58ZqlAQg2
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Here you can share all your best pictures taken with your new Oneplus 5T
lowlight shots aint bad out of the box :good:
Portrait Mode, unedited
From a gig last night. The camera is decent. Works if you put effort in it. This is taken with gcam. Gcam uses only the 16Mpix sensor (at least I think so.)
https://photos.app.goo.gl/evrt2pz4rYBPELw52
One of the pictures I took last night from my first attempts at astrophotography using 5T. It's difficult to do and time consuming considering its a 30 second exposure.
I haven't edited it, this is on ISO 1600 and 20" exposure.
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From a gig last night. The camera is decent. Works if you put effort in it. This is taken with gcam. Gcam uses only the 16Mpix sensor (at least I think so.)
https://photos.app.goo.gl/evrt2pz4rYBPELw52
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that's a superb shot
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has anyone tried using a third party app like open camera, camera fv-5, or snap camera with 100% photo quality setting?
Open camera is free and should give a good indication if photo quality is improved by reducing the jpeg compression that seems to be causing the oil color blur with the op software.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera
tmzbeme said:
that's a superb shot
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has anyone tried using a third party app like open camera, camera fv-5, or snap camera with 100% photo quality setting?
Open camera is free and should give a good indication if photo quality is improved by reducing the jpeg compression that seems to be causing the oil color blur with the op software.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera
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Thanks.
Tried opencamera also. Images came out very grainy and terrible looking. That shot above is taken with Google Cam. Probably the version which was first optimized for 820/821/835. The one with no hdr settings in the menu at all.
Okay so, what's really good with this camera? I've been seeing so many mixed reports of the camera being really good, and then the whole "oil painting" quality.
I'm waiting for my 5T in the mail, and this'll be my first OP device ever. Camera isn't super important to me, but I'd like to have something that out-preforms my current Nexus 5X.
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Okay so, what's really good with this camera? I've been seeing so many mixed reports of the camera being really good, and then the whole "oil painting" quality.
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If you don't care for the second sensor, not much in my opinion.
Lowlight is probably not bad, if you think brighter = better.
All OP5 / 5T comparisons I've seen so far showed a brighter image, but also more processing artifacts.
In my opinion their second sensor is just there to keep the portrait mode and doesn't offer much more as the lowlight capabilities
are realized through software processing. Don't see any reason why this processing shouldn't also work on the OP5's main sensor,
other than them wanting to have a selling point for the 5T.
Some samples which show the issue:
https://imgur.com/4Xa06lA
http://i.pi.gy/R8p2E.jpg
Btw, this is what their portrait mode produces outdoors in daylight: https://i.imgur.com/5x1ikOs.jpg
This is what my OP3 produces indoors with HDR+ (I stopped using the stock camera months ago because of how bad the postprocessing is):
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=OEk1SkNwQXR3VVhTaWQ5Ulc0Ti1feXZ1WmNyN2VR
There is just no competition.
The fact that most will look at their photos on their phone and that many samples online are downsampled is probably the reason many don't see this issue.
As much as I would like to upgrade to the OP5T, I am keeping my OP3 because of the camera.
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If you don't care for the second sensor, not much in my opinion.
Lowlight is probably not bad, if you think brighter = better.
All OP5 / 5T comparisons I've seen so far showed a brighter image, but also more processing artifacts.
In my opinion their second sensor is just there to keep the portrait mode and doesn't offer much more as the lowlight capabilities
are realized through software processing. Don't see any reason why this processing shouldn't also work on the OP5's main sensor,
other than them wanting to have a selling point for the 5T.
Some samples which show the issue:
https://imgur.com/4Xa06lA
http://i.pi.gy/R8p2E.jpg
Btw, this is what their portrait mode produces outdoors in daylight: https://i.imgur.com/5x1ikOs.jpg
This is what my OP3 produces indoors with HDR+ (I stopped using the stock camera months ago because of how bad the postprocessing is):
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=OEk1SkNwQXR3VVhTaWQ5Ulc0Ti1feXZ1WmNyN2VR
There is just no competition.
The fact that most will look at their photos on their phone and that many samples online are downsampled is probably the reason many don't see this issue.
As much as I would like to upgrade to the OP5T, I am keeping my OP3 because of the camera.
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I understand what you're getting at. However, your two example images from the 5T don't really demonstrate the issue you're talking about to the severity you're talking about. OnePlus's post processing isn't good and it does process detail out of the second image, but the detail loss is quite miniscule. And that aside, it's quite a good picture. The first picture was compressed due to imgur, so it wasn't really indicative. Also, since you'd probably be more knowledgeable on this topic than me, I wonder: other than the dot pattern issue at full crop, what's wrong with the GCam on the 5T? On the 5, it seems to work well.
Read my camera review here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/camera-review-unassuming-bea5t-t3712219
Well
New try
my first low light experiences:
https://imgur.com/a/qGfQi
R3b00t369 said:
my first low light experiences:
https://imgur.com/a/qGfQi
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It looks great in my eyes!
gianton said:
It looks great in my eyes!
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Yeah, I'm totally satisfied with it!
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Took this while waiting for the bus at work. Post edited in VSCO
https://imgur.com/gallery/y8AhD
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iamterence said:
Took this while waiting for the bus at work. Post edited in VSCO
https://imgur.com/gallery/y8AhD
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Clearly I'm a scrub at sharing images on Tapatalk lol. Let me know if you guys can see the picture
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Took this while waiting for the bus at work. Post edited in VSCO
https://imgur.com/gallery/y8AhD
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Clearly I'm a scrub at sharing images on Tapatalk lol. Let me know if you guys can see the picture
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You'd have to edit it, can't see the pic.
subashchandran said:
Read my camera review here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/camera-review-unassuming-bea5t-t3712219
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Nice!!
How did you get the watermark, tho?
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Nice!!
How did you get the watermark, tho?
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It's a setting/option in the stock camera app.
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the LG G7 ThinQ come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I find the auto focus to be very bad on the G7. Manually focus via focus peaking solves the issue for me.
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I find the auto focus to be very bad on the G7. Manually focus via focus peaking solves the issue for me.
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I did a couple of tests after reading your comment and my autofocus seems fine. The only issue I found was going from a distant subject to a close one with writing. It struggle to make out the letters. Turned on AI and now it gets it.
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Can someone help me out by taking a picture of a person at night, indoor lighting? If you can upload it to Google photos full resolution so that it will not be compressed. Thanks a bunch!
I'm coming from the S9+ and I'm not a fan. Low light is hitchhike like horrible in comparison. This photo isn't bad bad but it's not even close to the S9+ quality
This kind of picture I take a lot. I'm a lush.... So I need my camera to do well in this light.
pychobj2001 said:
I'm coming from the S9+ and I'm not a fan. Low light is hitchhike like horrible in comparison. This photo isn't bad bad but it's not even close to the S9+ quality
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Agreed! I had the opportunity to take pictures and videos and this camera is quasi trash. Does everything ok. Does nothing really well. The AI struggles. I hope an upgrade makes the camera better. I came from an s9 plus too and this camera doesn't compare.
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I'm coming from the S9+ and I'm not a fan. Low light is hitchhike like horrible in comparison. This photo isn't bad bad but it's not even close to the S9+ quality
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Have you tried the manual mode?
I've tried manual mode and it is capable but it's still not in the same league as the S9+.
The wide angle mode is nice but it's not high quality even in full daylight.
And why no 4K60 mode?
With a 16MP sensor I figured this device would produce best images yet particularly in manual mode.
There's a lot of lag/delay when using the camera as well.
I long for the day when we have a 16MP F 1.2 camera! It will be here...eventually!
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I've tried manual mode and it is capable but it's still not in the same league as the S9+.
The wide angle mode is nice but it's not high quality even in full daylight.
And why no 4K60 mode?
With a 16MP sensor I figured this device would produce best images yet particularly in manual mode.
There's a lot of lag/delay when using the camera as well.
I long for the day when we have a 16MP F 1.2 camera! It will be here...eventually!
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I dont have lags .got update 1 day ago no lags now witch camera
No update available for unlocked users.
it would be so freaking awesome if people would actually help the community and upload some real-life photos made with their g7s, instead of complaining about this and that. my two cents, as a future buyer of the phone
sorry
Well, I contribute to the topic of the forum.
(by curiosities of fate, at the end of this article I just got the first update of the phone, which touches certain aspects of the phone, so you have to repeat tests, but for those who take it out of the box is a good reference).
Let's be clear, the photographic quality of the LG G7's automatic mode is bad, especially when approaching 100% of the size of the photo, the final finish is like a watercolor filter, little detail, and somewhat dark colors.
Let's illustrate with the following image:
(the images have been cut to 35% of the original size, I hope you can appreciate the differences. I am not a professional of the field, nor a photographer but here we go!)
This is the default image of the LG g7 in automatic mode, JPG format, the colors seem unnatural to me.
How can this be resolved? taking pictures in manual mode and in RAW format, the difference is very noticeable.
The image gains a lot in detail, but loses in color representation, does anyone know why the images are faded in RAW?, with some patience and retouched in photoshop the values of saturation and vibrance have something very similar to what I was seeing at that moment, although I understand that this is very subjective, ideally the phone would place these colors from the beginning that we selected the RAW format.
Finally, mention the differences in detail between the automatic format and the RAW format, the image on the left is in automatic JPG mode and the one on the right is in RAW, that gain in detail has a cost, the photo has a brutal weight in Size, around 30-45mb per photo.
I hope the comparison works for something and for someone, please excuse my bad English and greetings from Mexico.
louie_yo said:
it would be so freaking awesome if people would actually help the community and upload some real-life photos made with their g7s, instead of complaining about this and that. my two cents, as a future buyer of the phone
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I think you're completely right.
These are some pics I took so far, most of them with stock camera (only the last two should have been taken with GCam). Most of them shot in auto mode and there are no post production works. I'm not a photographer at all and I don't pretend to be one, but I'm pretty satisfied with G7's cameras.
Bad resolution is due to upload, I can upload pics somewhere else if needed.
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louie_yo said:
it would be so freaking awesome if people would actually help the community and upload some real-life photos made with their g7s, instead of complaining about this and that. my two cents, as a future buyer of the phone
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don't buy this phone for the camera. it has plenty of outstanding features, but the camera isn't one of them. it's "good enough", but not up to par with other flagships.
s7, s8, s9, iphone X, mate 10 all take better pics. it does better with low light than previous LGs, but very unremarkable. the GCam port is helping a lot. once it's really up and going we will see what this hardware can do. LG just can't seem to get the software side right.
i'm not bashing it, as i knew this before i bought the phone and the camera isn't very important to me.
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I think you're completely right.
These are some pics I took so far, most of them with stock camera (only the last two should have been taken with GCam). Most of them shot in auto mode and there are no post production works. I'm not a photographer at all and I don't pretend to be one, but I'm pretty satisfied with G7's cameras.
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definitely notice a difference on those last two! they look great. colors feel true to life.
Is it possible to add the wide angle mode in the GCam?
My g6 get is a bit 'grainy' but detail and dynamic range for a 13mp is at times better than the g7 that are verry low at detail in some shots and some get to punchy that loose natural scene color. Open and switch between camera's is way faster on g6 than the g7 to. And allot of extra features 'pop out-gallery scroll left side-tracking focus etc are missing. Hope they improve fast with a update.
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G6 left was double the distance taken than g7. Clear detail
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More samples regular and wide angle how g6 do better.
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Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Nokia 9 PureView come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I've been using the light L16 for a long while. I assume it would work the same. Images on the Pure View may render a bit slow "on device" , since it dosent have to be exported into lights Lumen software. I'll see once mines arrives though.
lsmith1981 said:
I've been using the light L16 for a long while. I assume it would work the same. Images on the Pure View may render a bit slow "on device" , since it dosent have to be exported into lights Lumen software. I'll see once mines arrives though.
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Yes, with all the sensor data on it does take a while to merge all the image data. The amount of time varies based on the scene and detail.
Harfainx said:
Yes, with all the sensor data on
it does take a while to merge all the image data. The amount of time varies based on the scene and detail.
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It's instant surprisingly, their software team has done a excellent job on that part. Even though it uses the SD820 and their custom ASIC together, everything works just fine. I'm sure with the SD845 and the ASIC chip, things would work much better on that device.
https://light.co/technology
lsmith1981 said:
It's instant surprisingly, their software team has done a excellent job on that part. Even though it uses the SD820 and their custom ASIC together, everything works just fine. I'm sure with the SD845 and the ASIC chip, things would work much better on that device.
https://light.co/technology
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I meant it takes a while on the Nokia 9 Pureview. I've had everywhere from about 4 seconds, up to 25ish seconds to process a photo.
As I'm eager to get my hands on this device mainly for the capabilities of the camera, is it possible for some of the lucky early owners to share a few RAW files.
At least two people here have it, and we don't have one real-life sample to check out.
I really can't believe there are no real and meaningful reviews for this phone...
here is a sample
bo6o said:
As I'm eager to get my hands on this device mainly for the capabilities of the camera, is it possible for some of the lucky early owners to share a few RAW files.
At least two people here have it, and we don't have one real-life sample to check out.
I really can't believe there are no real and meaningful reviews for this phone...
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Here's three in a wetransfer link. Too big to post DNGs on here. These have quite a bit of good depth data and were fun to edit. Didn't share my edits in this grouping though.
https://we.tl/b-AHQfp0iCcp
Thanks man, can I reuse the link and/or unedited exported with LR images on other forums, to shutdown some huawei fans
I'm amazed by the details, it is really good. Could you share some b/w dng's please? Huawei mate 9 with only one bw sensor took amazing shots , so I'm really curious at what the Nokia 9 can do
More dng samples please
Guys, can you please post more dng samples? outdoors for base iso, indoors for high iso? When I developed the dngs posted here, they are all quite great actually, even at iso 1600. That's the flowers shot. The same flower shot in jpg is quite oversharpened and noisy, with ugly artefacts, dark shadows and blown out highlights that are not present in the jpg. The subway shot is iso 1400, basically noise free. The doughnut shot is iso 208 and man, it is absolutely amazing in terms of both detail and noise. I think the bad quality you see in jpgs is simply bad processing by the nokia camera app. I think that this hardware is capable of great photos. Wondering if SNAP camera HDR app would work on this. Thanks!
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Guys, can you please post more dng samples? outdoors for base iso, indoors for high iso? When I developed the dngs posted here, they are all quite great actually, even at iso 1600. That's the flowers shot. The same flower shot in jpg is quite oversharpened and noisy, with ugly artefacts, dark shadows and blown out highlights that are not present in the jpg. The subway shot is iso 1400, basically noise free. The doughnut shot is iso 208 and man, it is absolutely amazing in terms of both detail and noise. I think the bad quality you see in jpgs is simply bad processing by the nokia camera app. I think that this hardware is capable of great photos. Wondering if SNAP camera HDR app would work on this. Thanks!
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I will try to add some tomorrow. Did some compare shots with the xz3 and a rx100 vi
https://we.tl/t-N9cRshSrlb
If people are interested I can do a bit more in depth comparison
I think the shadow recovery is amazing, almost no noise increase, and this on a phone.
1st photo supplied by @phunkyp , increased the brightness of the dark background in a raw editor.
But i think the general sharpness isn't the best compared with well lit single sensor photos, what do you think? For example in the samples of @stefanve those details in the trees just look strange somehow. But there is definatly a lot to play with in the editor (2nd photo by him). Yes its a bit much.
Here are a couple of extra test shots. 3 files per scene. DNG, JPG from the default camera app and one from the LR camera. The LR shot should be using only one of the 5 camera's so we can see the difference between one vs 5 camera's
https://we.tl/t-deZimhn8Sz
Personally I don't think that the camera has on point focus (maybe that is why they use very aggressive sharpening in de jpegs) but overall I think it is really good for a phone, lots of detail and light. This is one of the view phones (that I used) that gives me usable photo's the other one being the Lumia 950 XL and the Mate 9 (but only in b&w)
Is Lightroom not capable to get raw from the Nokia cam? That would be interesting to compare, Lightroom single Cam dng vs Lightroom HDR dng vs Nokia 5 cam dng.
No sadly , it is not possible to save the raw data with de LR camera app.
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Here are some pictures with Nokia 9. All photos was taken with Auto mode and someone with bokeh or monochrome with raw. I'm not a professional of photography
https://photos.app.goo.gl/56KAUxN8mWk78qfL6
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I took a few pictures and I am not a professional photographer either, but hope it will help you. Nice weekend
https://photos.app.goo.gl/kgqrWZcYMxRYKGxm9
I will be free from work tomorrow. Then I go outside with the children and take pictures with this phone. I will then place them in the same folder.
Love the monochrome mode.
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Sony Xperia 1 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
So,.... Basically, on the camera front,...
Winner winner chicken dinner.
Finally.
Full review with samples coming soon.
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daily photos. This mode definitely overcomes the Galaxy S10. We compared these two smartphones during the shoot. The shot is fast
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It seems that it still has issues with overblown light sources and dynamic range. Maybe someone could test if there is a difference with the HDR-mode or even RAW-photos developed with LR? Thanks.
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It seems that it still has issues with overblown light sources and dynamic range. Maybe someone could test if there is a difference with the HDR-mode or even RAW-photos developed with LR? Thanks.
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Dynmic range is fine. There's a difference between always-on HDR, which leads to unrealistic levels of detail in shadows and dark skies on a bright day, and "good" dynamic range. The Sony gets it about right.
You CAN get the same results as competitors if you hop over to Manual HDR - which is a whole new algorythm, as far as I can see - but I've done it a few times now and,... I just think it looks fake. Which it is.
The X1 outputs the most realistic and reliable photographs of any current smartphone.
They're impeccably coloured, naturally exposed and full of detail.
Don't be fooled into being told that flattening the dynamic range is what makes a picture good - there's far more at play than that. The DR on the X1 is absolutely fine and the rest of the output is, frankly, top-of-the-pack.
Samples: https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/
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You CAN get the same results as competitors if you hop over to Manual HDR - which is a whole new algorythm, as far as I can see - but I've done it a few times now and,... I just think it looks fake. Which it is.
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The new algorithm sounds interesting. I guess this one night picture with the supermarket shows that it overexposes the lamps of the shop, wich you can also see in other pictures around the internet. That´s the problem... Maybe you could upload this picture with HDR? Or other pictures as comparison between non-HDR/HDR? Would be great!
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The new algorithm sounds interesting. I guess this one night picture with the supermarket shows that it overexposes the lamps of the shop, wich you can also see in other pictures around the internet. That´s the problem... Maybe you could upload this picture with HDR? Or other pictures as comparison between non-HDR/HDR? Would be great!
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My p20 pro has really spoiled me in that regard. It is insane how good it handles contre jour (against the light).
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The new algorithm sounds interesting. I guess this one night picture with the supermarket shows that it overexposes the lamps of the shop, wich you can also see in other pictures around the internet. That´s the problem... Maybe you could upload this picture with HDR? Or other pictures as comparison between non-HDR/HDR? Would be great!
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Your wish is my command,...
https://youtu.be/DbzytyjfWJk
Link to full resolution images in the description, as are my notes.
Random point and shoot. Love how each image turns out of this camera. Colour grading, sharpness and dynamic range is on point. Little bit of tweaking makes images so dramatic. Definitely one of my favourite phone cameras.
4K video with gimbal and Cinema Pro app is great too. Would be amazing to shoot cinematic videos.
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Your wish is my command,... Link to full resolution images in the description, as are my notes.
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Thanks so much. Really great. :good:
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someone on ESATO mentioned main camera lens of all unit are faulty.
what do you think?
https://www.esato.com/phonephotos/cam/sony/j9110/201906060815K2dnO6.jpg
I don't find the camera all that, stutter speed is laggy and the focus is not as good as my Samsung note 9.
I will play around more and see but I think few more updates on the camera are needed.
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a5ian300zx said:
I don't find the camera all that, stutter speed is laggy and the focus is not as good as my Samsung note 9.
I will play around more and see but I think few more updates on the camera are needed.
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Testing some more, I will like to correct my comment the clarity of the picture is sharper than the note 9, I will test the stutter speed when I get chance.
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a5ian300zx said:
Testing some more, I will like to correct my comment the clarity of the picture is sharper than the note 9, I will test the stutter speed when I get chance.
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side by side comparison with Note 9 is welcomed....
if xperia 1 takes comparable or better photos than Note 9...that is considered very good news for most casual users
Onepunchbro said:
side by side comparison with Note 9 is welcomed....
if xperia 1 takes comparable or better photos than Note 9...that is considered very good news for most casual users
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A look at GSMA's tests show that it does. It's a noisier image certainly but Samsung have always been over-the-top with their noise suppression and there's no doubt at all that the X1 produces more detail with better, more natural colours. Yes you have to manually go into HDR to reign in bright skies if the Sony doesn't select "backlight" - unlike the Sammy - but it's a slight problem that's just a tap away.
What I love about this camera is how natural the images look. They don't look over-processed or over contrasty. The colours are realistic and the DR is very,.. dunno. Filmic? Every picture I take with the thing just looks classy.
I'd put it above the Pixel too: resolved detail is about the same for both (IE better than Samsung's) but Sony's images are cleaner. Even at night - and despite "Night Light" - the Sony's night shots are better than the Pixels, IMHO.
The only phone that seems to be genuinely producing something better on the camera front is the P30 Pro - so long as the AI mode is switched off. If you can live with the 2mp detail loss, I'd say it just about keeps hold of the top spot. The Sony has the better camcorder, however,.... so,.....
But I've no doubt at all that the Xperia 1 is top two in the smartphone camera race this year. No doubt at all.
xzpremium1976 said:
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I have both xperia 1 and S10plus.....no way for Sony to beat s10+ photos. Also videos in 4K are horrible and the stabilisation terrible in Sony.
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Timaustin2000 said:
A look at GSMA's tests show that it does. It's a noisier image certainly but Samsung have always been over-the-top with their noise suppression and there's no doubt at all that the X1 produces more detail with better, more natural colours. Yes you have to manually go into HDR to reign in bright skies if the Sony doesn't select "backlight" - unlike the Sammy - but it's a slight problem that's just a tap away.
What I love about this camera is how natural the images look. They don't look over-processed or over contrasty. The colours are realistic and the DR is very,.. dunno. Filmic? Every picture I take with the thing just looks classy.
I'd put it above the Pixel too: resolved detail is about the same for both (IE better than Samsung's) but Sony's images are cleaner. Even at night - and despite "Night Light" - the Sony's night shots are better than the Pixels, IMHO.
The only phone that seems to be genuinely producing something better on the camera front is the P30 Pro - so long as the AI mode is switched off. If you can live with the 2mp detail loss, I'd say it just about keeps hold of the top spot. The Sony has the better camcorder, however,.... so,.....
But I've no doubt at all that the Xperia 1 is top two in the smartphone camera race this year. No doubt at all.
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All the photos if you crop them are much noisier than s10+ photos...
Nop the photos of the S10 + leave burned and with more noise
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marko68 said:
I have both xperia 1 and S10plus.....no way for Sony to beat s10+ photos. Also videos in 4K are horrible and the stabilisation terrible in Sony.
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All the photos if you crop them are much noisier than s10+ photos...
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And if you crop into all - and I mean all - of GSMA's S10 images you'll notice that they contain much less fine detail than the sony, especially at night.
If "Ooooh, there's no noise" is how you judge a camera then you've a long way to go, my friend.
GSMAs comparisson shots - and my own experience with both - tell the same story over and over again: The Sony produces a more detailed, better composed shot with extremely accurate White Balance without the temptation to blow greens and reds up to 20, as the S10 does. Yes, the Sony sacrifices some noise in the persuit of more detail but the detail is important: it gives pictures texture and fidelity. It gives realism. Ever since the s7, Samsung's awful processing algorythm has saught to display no noise whatsoever and every time I see the same result: plastic images with flat detailing, over-contrasted, over coloured. Great for instagram but awful as actual pictures.
If you don't actually care about the quality of pictures, go ahead and love the S10. I'll take that little extra noise (LESS noise, I might add, than any LG OR the Pixel 3 range - by a significant margin) for a truly textured, composed image.
And there's no question that the S10 is worse at night. Its saving grace is that it controls strong light sources better than the Sony but it's the X1 that has less noise, more detail, better colours and a far more realistic exposure (strong light sources accepted as a failing).
An S10 would not, for example, capture this image https://flic.kr/p/2gcamWy - (as usual, download it in full res). Noise is virtually nil, detail is very high for the light available (you can read the graffiti in the dust of the van and see blades of grass in shadow), it's sharp, colours are accurate, exposure is on point - including the sky, which was still partially lit. An S10 would have overexposed all of the shadows, blown out the sky and removed the fine detail - I see it time and time again.
But love what you love. C'est La Vie. But, with respect, that doesn't make you right.
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And if you crop into all - and I mean all - of GSMA's S10 images you'll notice that they contain much less fine detail than the sony, especially at night.
If "Ooooh, there's no noise" is how you judge a camera then you've a long way to go, my friend.
GSMAs comparisson shots - and my own experience with both - tell the same story over and over again: The Sony produces a more detailed, better composed shot with extremely accurate White Balance without the temptation to blow greens and reds up to 20, as the S10 does. Yes, the Sony sacrifices some noise in the persuit of more detail but the detail is important: it gives pictures texture and fidelity. It gives realism. Ever since the s7, Samsung's awful processing algorythm has saught to display no noise whatsoever and every time I see the same result: plastic images with flat detailing, over-contrasted, over coloured. Great for instagram but awful as actual pictures.
If you don't actually care about the quality of pictures, go ahead and love the S10. I'll take that little extra noise (LESS noise, I might add, than any LG OR the Pixel 3 range - by a significant margin) for a truly textured, composed image.
And there's no question that the S10 is worse at night. Its saving grace is that it controls strong light sources better than the Sony but it's the X1 that has less noise, more detail, better colours and a far more realistic exposure (strong light sources accepted as a failing).
An S10 would not, for example, capture this image https://flic.kr/p/2gcamWy - (as usual, download it in full res). Noise is virtually nil, detail is very high for the light available (you can read the graffiti in the dust of the van and see blades of grass in shadow), it's sharp, colours are accurate, exposure is on point - including the sky, which was still partially lit. An S10 would have overexposed all of the shadows, blown out the sky and removed the fine detail - I see it time and time again.
But love what you love. C'est La Vie. But, with respect, that doesn't make you right.
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Look at these two photos :
https://ibb.co/zZJr87p
https://ibb.co/wyx0Ft2
Flowers in Sony photo they have no details, you can't see properly the empty spaces in between flower petals, the s10+ photo is full of details, details missing in Sony
These photos are shot by myself not taken from an internet review...