Oreo locks down Google assistant even MORE? - Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers

Back when Oreo was in beta, I read reports of people finally being able to activate Google assistant while the screen is off. However, now that I have the official update, it still doesn't seem possible. And even more so, I can't even trigger GA to unlock my phone from the lock screen- Google's settings say it is blocked by my phone's administrator, something that was never an issue in Nougat.
Has anyone else noticed the same and/or gotten GA to work from a locked or turned off screen?

Hi. I didn't have any problems to unlock or activate my device with the google assistant on Oreo. But I had the same issues like you with Nougat.

DerOlleFuzzy said:
Hi. I didn't have any problems to unlock or activate my device with the google assistant on Oreo. But I had the same issues like you with Nougat.
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Is there a setting to enable in Google settings that I'm not seeing? Did you need to disable Bixby or something?

Ahh dang! I got it working to turn my screen on, but I can't get it to unlock my screen. Looks like it is most likely due to my "Work Mode" profile for my job, it seems like Smart Lock itself is disabled.

ryanpm40 said:
Is there a setting to enable in Google settings that I'm not seeing? Did you need to disable Bixby or something?
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On nougat I tried everything to unlock my phone with google assistant. It worked only 1 or 2 times and then Bixby or some other Samsungstuff dominated GA so the GA couldn't recognize my voice.
On Oreo it works fine. I have never activated Bixby Home and Bixby Voice after flashing and wiping my actual ROM.

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"ok google" detection unavailable for this language? English?

The "ok google " hot word was working when I got my phone several days ago, even with the screen off. Now suddenly today, It just stopped working. Now, in the "ok google" detection field under google now settings, the top section is still checked, "from google search app", but "always on" and "when locked" boxes are now both greyed out. The "retrain" and "delete voice model" boxes are also greyed out. They were not when I originally got the phone. This apparently happened today, and I havent messed with any of the settings. Plus I see no sign of an update to google now that might have casued a change like this within the app.
The most interesting thing though, as I mentioned in the title is that the "always on" box is now saying that this feature is currently unavailable for this language....which is english / US....wtf
This will happen if you disable S Voice.
Ohhhh, well **** why does this feature need svoice to work? This some stupid touchwiz thing? I didnt even have svoice on my s4, (titanium backup ftw) and it worked fine. Except for the screen off option, which wasnt available in 4.3
Thanks, I had this issue, at first ok google was working on any screen which was pretty cool, then yesterday I noticed it wasn't working any longer, I forgot S-Voice needs to be working, I disabled it a few days back, better switch it back on

OK google

Has anyone gotten ok google to work outside of the app itself? I have it turned on, but it won't recognized my command outside of the app. I'm aware of the s voice issues in the past but this phone doesn't have S voice so I don't know what else could be interfering.
lmasieri said:
Has anyone gotten ok google to work outside of the app itself? I have it turned on, but it won't recognized my command outside of the app. I'm aware of the s voice issues in the past but this phone doesn't have S voice so I don't know what else could be interfering.
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This is how it's always been for me. S7 edge and I've given up on it. :/
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For me it works regardless of which application i'm in.
Google -> Settings -> Voice -> 'Ok Google' detection
dumraden said:
For me it works regardless of which application i'm in.
Google -> Settings -> Voice -> 'Ok Google' detection
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works fine outside app and from all screen, just not when the screen is off and the phone isn't plugged in. very disappointing.
anyone knows how to get og google working from when the screen is off ?
Thanks
suhail_kapoor said:
works fine outside app and from all screen, just not when the screen is off and the phone isn't plugged in. very disappointing.
anyone knows how to get og google working from when the screen is off ?
Thanks
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You are correct on that. However if you say "OK Google" and then press the power button it unlocks and launches the assistant. So, yea rather weird...
I came from a Nexus 6p and used this all the time. And noticed instantly something was up when it never unlocked my phone. I ended up retraining my voice model a million times because of it.
My Google does searches without me saying ok google.
It's funny at work as I have conversations and suddenly my phone has found what was talking about.
lmasieri said:
Has anyone gotten ok google to work outside of the app itself? I have it turned on, but it won't recognized my command outside of the app. I'm aware of the s voice issues in the past but this phone doesn't have S voice so I don't know what else could be interfering.
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I had to take my S8+ to Best Buy and have it re-flashed and it's working great. Finally.

Accessibility services turn off after restart

I've not noticed this before and not sure if it's a glitch in the Oreo beta, however everytime I restart my device (which has been a few times today with beta 2) my accessibility services are turned off, so BxActions stops working until I re-enable it in the settings, the same with Navbar apps.
Can anyone else confirm this?
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YES! Same issue. However, I've had this issue dating back to my Galaxy Tab S on 6.0.1
I've just come to live with the fact that apps like Last Pass will never work properly unless I regularly (manually) provide them with accessibility access.

SmartLock safe places

My phone wasn't unlocked when i was home, wanted to try to reset gps, but the possibillity to set this is gone?
Fully12 said:
My phone wasn't unlocked when i was home, wanted to try to reset gps, but the possibillity to set this is gone?
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Not gone, but it only works occasionally. This isn't just limited to the s7, it is a Google feature through play services across all Android devices. Most devices have the same issue... Only Google can fix it. They recently removed it from some devices, but I thought it was just on a P beta build.

Voice match / Ok Google doesn't work

Hello, can't seem to manage to activate voice match, everytime I try and activate, I record my voice, but the slider stays greyed out. Clicking it just restarts the recording process all over again. Mi 9t bought in France, french language and global miui 10.3.7 here. Tried no screen lock, clearing Google app cache, rebooting, to no avail... Anyone could point me in the right direction to solve the issue?
Same problem for me.
Uninstalled the updates on Google app and working for now, weird. Doesn't work from screen off though, but that might be a feature the phone can't handle?
Damool said:
Uninstalled the updates on Google app and working for now, weird. Doesn't work from screen off though, but that might be a feature the phone can't handle?
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I think the k20 series has the qualcomm wcd9340 audio chip..which looking at their website it says it has support for always listening wake up voice commands from when the phone is off..I wonder if roms could make this function work unlike xiaomi..
Damool said:
Uninstalled the updates on Google app and working for now, weird. Doesn't work from screen off though, but that might be a feature the phone can't handle?
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That also did the trick for me. Had similar problems on Asus Zenpad tab, so I doubt it it's a feature the phone can't handle... Or maybe can't handle yet.
Edit: Well, just updated the Google app and now everything is working - Voice Match turns on, stays on and working. Pretty sure this was a Google fix.
Thanks, that work for me too.
opica said:
Edit: Well, just updated the Google app and now everything is working - Voice Match turns on, stays on and working. Pretty sure this was a Google fix.
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But does the assistant gets triggered when the screen is off?
And can you change the hotword to "hey Google" instead of crappy "okay Google"?
To me it works on lock screen but not on Always on screen. When phone is locked try press once power button and talk. To me works if always on not activated or when I press power button without unlocking
Worked for me but not anymore after update
It never worked for me until around maybe 1- 2 weeks ago. (I randomly checked it one Day and the option wasnt blocked anymore, it worked perfectly) but after the 11.0.2 system update it doesn't work anymore...
The option voice match is blocked again.
I can tell from the last replies on this post users were able to use it. Is it still the same case after the update ??
Sorry for **** english (not my first language)
I have the same problem, although I own redmi K20 pro Chinese version...
I had the same problem, the Voice match would start loading and never stopped. After trying all the available solutions found on the internet, I tried the most simple one. I simply changed the system and Assistant language to English (US), and it magically worked. The default language before that was English (UK).
So, maybe just try to switch it to US and then reboot the smartphone.
I have the Mi 9T Pro, EU version (MIUI 11.0.3.)

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