Tegra X1 emulation on x86 - when will it happen? - Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Like many, I heard the news about Nintendo exclusives on the Nvidia Shield TV - but obviously, it's only available in China. I downloaded the Chinese Shield firmware from nVidia's website and I'd love to mess around with it but I'm not sure if I could flash the Chinese firmware on my 2015 model Shield. In the end, will we ever get decent Tegra X1 emulation? That would definitely be nice for developers (heck, nVidia probably has an emulator internally) and hackers like me who want to mess around with stuff like those Nintendo games. Thanks.
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OUYA - First Launch title named - Final Fantasy III by Square Enix

Not terribly interested in the OUYA, but I know there are others that are interested in it. FF3 has been announced as a launch title with updated graphics and what not to take advantage of the Tegra 3 processor in the OUYA.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/31/ouya-partners-with-square-enix-names-final-fantasy-iii-as-launc/
Saw this, looks pretty good.
Re: Final Fantasy III by Square Enix coming to Ouya.
When I heard that Final Fantasy 3 will be on Ouya, I was so happy. This was the main reason why I pre-ordered an Ouya with two controllers. I am a Final Fantasy fan since a long time and it was great news for me
FFIII?
Y not something like dead trigger?
Or MC3?
Or NOVA 3?
CyberScopes said:
FFIII?
Y not something like dead trigger?
Or MC3?
Or NOVA 3?
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Because those aren't already on Android in HD [/Sarcasm].
I hope that if they optimize it to work with the OUYA's gamepad, we can get an updated version that supports the Xperia Play hardware buttons.
It might just work for ICS cannot see how it would work for Gingerbread without explicit support.
I have bought it but not played it yet due to the lack of controller support.
(If we get secret of mana or chrono trigger that would be good).
Or heaven forbid a new port (Dragon Quest VI maybe).
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It also says all the games are free to play (Don't think I would want an adware Final Fantasy III)
I wonder if we'd have to buy it again if we already own it through the Play Store. Or, maybe it will not even be obtained through Google Play...
Just thinking about that Android Doom 3 port being worked on being available for this console!
Other OUYA related news.
EA and DICE in particular were looking foward to bring frostbite 2 engine to mobile platform.
Seeing as Tegra 3 is dominant and powerfull mainstream hardware and also used for OUYA, this may mean some form of ports could be heading to OUYA.
Atleast this would mean way much easier game development for smartphones/OUYA in general.
Thewonderboy said:
Other OUYA related news.
EA and DICE in particular were looking foward to bring frostbite 2 engine to mobile platform.
Seeing as Tegra 3 is dominant and powerfull mainstream hardware and also used for OUYA, this may mean some form of ports could be heading to OUYA.
Atleast this would mean way much easier game development for smartphones/OUYA in general.
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Nice!! I mean, we're already seeing Unreal on Android.

Android TV?

I am just wondering if madcatz have any plans to implement the android tv interface into the mojo.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...io-with-pano-interface-and-hardware-partners/
Let's start with Kit Kat.
The MOJO was made and marketed as a game console not an Android miniPC or SetTopBox media player like all these Android HDMI Sticks/Boxes that already exist.
Mad Catz has no software and Android knowledge or even a software development team. They sub all the software development to another company (or even to a few freelance individuals given the result ...)
Mad Catz is a hardware company.
Most people are disappointed with the Mojo because they wrongfully believed it was something else. They projected their desire to have a Tegra 4 Android box on to a Tegra 4 game console ...
Where Mad Catz is at fault is by not delivering their promises about Kitkat (for the BT controller support for instance) and NVidia Gamestreaming technology.
They're not at fault for not turning this console in to an Android TV/Media Player/Whatever wishes people have.
That wasn't their intention from start otherwise they would have shipped the Mojo with a TV remote not a game controller ..
That been said an Android game console can be used as an Android TV/Media Player/Whatever but that is up to the users and the mods community to make this happens.
kgersen said:
Where Mad Catz is at fault is by not delivering their promises about Kitkat (for the BT controller support for instance) and NVidia Gamestreaming technology.
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On the Mad Catz website they made a posting about the availability of OnLIve on the m.o.j.o. as a way of enabling pc streaming. The article allows comments, and someone has asked about kit kat. I'd suggest that you (and by "you" I mean any mo.o.j.o. owner!) visit that website and leave a comment or like the comment so that Mad Catz knows that we are still out here and waiting. :crying:
Article: Mad Catz + OnLive = Awesome
url: madcatz.com/mad-catz-onlive
but you can find it on the home page at the moment.
If MOJOs next big update installs AndroidTV to their system. It's finally a decent box again. Android on Mojo with a Dpad is a terrible experience. Seems like AndroidTV would be perfect for MOJO.

[Q] towerfall ascension with mojo

Hey
i have some trouble i can t find towerfall in the ouya store
is there a way to Play towerfall on mad catz mojo ?
Hi,
I saw its avaible on steam, but i really dont know if its avaible also for android..
I noticed this as well. The problem is that not all Ouya games are available through the "Ouya Everywhere" program. This is the program that makes Ouya games available on the Mad Catz Mojo. For whatever reason, the developer of TowerFall has not allowed his game to be a part of Ouya Everywhere and so it doesn't show up on the Mad Catz Mojo.
I've emailed the TowerFall developer a few months ago (prior to the Ascension update) to ask if there's anything he's willing to do to make it available on the Mojo, but I didn't get a reply. After the Ascension update, I emailed the Ouya team directly to see what they can do, and they wrote me back to tell me that it's completely in the developers hands whether a game is included in Ouya Everywhere. I've since emailed the TowerFall developer again, but haven't received a reply from that email or the email from several months ago.
My next step is to ask for a refund, I think, because I purchased it on the Ouya hardware that I no longer own with the idea that it would be playable after my upgrade to the Mojo.
Hopefully that sheds a little light on the situation where it sits. There are lots of fun games on Ouya Everywhere, but TowerFall is the one I miss most. Maybe you'll have better luck with the developer than I did.
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Playable On Mojo?

So I was shopping for games this morning and I realized just how far microconsole gaming has to go. Honestly at this point how many games can you play on Shield that you can't already play on your Mojo? I like everyone am holding on to my wallet just biting at the bit to lay down my 199.00 for my new shield console This as I am staring at a Fire Tv, Adt1,Ouya that are not even plugged in I hate to admit it but Ouya is still ahead of the game when it comes to controller based games on Android. Downloading from Google Play is a crap shoot in many cases? They also have the storage issue down pat which many of its newer Android Tv bretherin are yet to accomplish. The stupid part is, When I think about Ouya I get pissed because they just keep doing stupid sh?t:silly: Maybe it's the idea I am in love with?
So how many more boxes will I buy before I get a clue?:cyclops:
I really wonder when the Shield console will release? No pre orders are available yet, and I'm not sure what they are waiting for. The demand must be high or something. I wouldn't buy a fire TV or OUYA because the new shield will destroy those two products combined!
disorder78 said:
I really wonder when the Shield console will release? No pre orders are available yet, and I'm not sure what they are waiting for. The demand must be high or something. I wouldn't buy a fire TV or OUYA because the new shield will destroy those two products combined!
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The Shield is supposed to be in May. I wonder if Google plans to step up the content on Android TV around the same time? The Razor Forge should also be along shortly. I just want one Android microconsole that does it all
Yea and I'm tired of spending $100 dollars for ****ty micro consoles. The Shield console should definitely change that.
disorder78 said:
Yea and I'm tired of spending $100 dollars for ****ty micro consoles. The Shield console should definitely change that.
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I can bet you that the new shield will not be 100% working.. there'll be issues with AndroidTV, limited onboard storage, etc etc.
The trick is to enjoy what works and work around what doesn't.
It's early days in the 'micro console' days.
I wouldn't be surprised if new TV's come out with AndroidTV pre-installed on cheap dual core SoC's. :good:
gwaldo said:
I can bet you that the new shield will not be 100% working.. there'll be issues with AndroidTV, limited onboard storage, etc etc.
The trick is to enjoy what works and work around what doesn't.
It's early days in the 'micro console' days.
I wouldn't be surprised if new TV's come out with AndroidTV pre-installed on cheap dual core SoC's. :good:
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Tell you what I refuse to buy another box that is strapped for storage space. I will keep my Mojo and Draco until then. Do you think NVidia would be stupid enough to release the console with a major flaw like that? I know Shield is supposed to be about game streaming but what of Google Play support? I own games on Fire TV, AndroidTV, Ouya I would love to get them all on one box but I know that's never going to happen
Do any of you own and play Ouya Games? I have been trying to decide if spending money on the Ouya platform is a losing battle? They are still adding games all the time many are good ones. They have the partnership with Playcast Media which is awesome by the way. They have the largest library of Controller based Android games that I know of. My opinion is there is a Bigboy other than just the China partners that is keeping them going maybe as a test bed of some kind. How else could they still be here? They already have a tie with NVidia? To me the whole microconsole industry is very interesting to see how this will all play out. What's your guess?
well the Shield just got much more interesting offering a 500gb console......OUYA!!!
wastate2014 said:
well the Shield just got much more interesting offering a 500gb console......OUYA!!!
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Where did you get the 500gb on the shield from?
I can't see nvidia doing so, not for 199USD.
The obox has a harddisk but it's not X1.
The future is Android :good:
gwaldo said:
Where did you get the 500gb on the shield from?
I can't see nvidia doing so, not for 199USD.
The obox has a harddisk but it's not X1.
The future is Android :good:
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NVidia for a short time had a 299.00 option with 500gb. I have since read a retraction on Android Police.
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Do any of you own and play Ouya Games? I have been trying to decide if spending money on the Ouya platform is a losing battle? They are still adding games all the time many are good ones. They have the partnership with Playcast Media which is awesome by the way. They have the largest library of Controller based Android games that I know of. My opinion is there is a Bigboy other than just the China partners that is keeping them going maybe as a test bed of some kind. How else could they still be here? They already have a tie with NVidia? To me the whole microconsole industry is very interesting to see how this will all play out. What's your guess?
well the Shield just got much more interesting offering a 500gb console......OUYA!!!
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Ouya seeks quick sale as debts mount
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-04-29-ouya-seeks-quick-sale-as-debts-mount
I never did get the ouya, the sorry dev kits said it all really.
TegraZone have a good controller game library and google play last year introduced the controller friendly icon, so that should be even better.
And now nvidia up'ing it's game.. yeah Ouya was an interesting experiment.. like GameStick
But, your right.. Ouya's worth something.. someone will buy it cheap.. and maybe make their own microconsole.. Ouya II :laugh:
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NVidia for a short time had a 299.00 option with 500gb. I have since read a retraction on Android Police.
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Looks like that option is back:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XO7AK1U/ref=cm_sw_su_dp
To bad the 16GB $199 version has no SATA port.. it has the 2.5' drive bay tho:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFZfCBXw6K4
I hope someone hacks it.
A 1TB drive and the $199 option would have sold better then a $299 IMO.
gwaldo said:
Looks like that option is back:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XO7AK1U/ref=cm_sw_su_dp
To bad the 16GB $199 version has no SATA port.. it has the 2.5' drive bay tho:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFZfCBXw6K4
I hope someone hacks it.
A 1TB drive and the $199 option would have sold better then a $299 IMO.
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LOL You caught me in the middle of a cluster f**k. I have waited and now I can't make up my mind ? At $300 that's getting awful close to my PS4 so then I start asking myself what the Shield will offer me that my Ps4 can't? I have to wonder at this point if they should not have added the 8gig of ram and made it a true console?
To me if the 16GB version is expandable you are right it would be better to just add a 1TB hard-drive for the extra money ? . So it does have a 2.5 internal HD bay? Then I am curious if a external HD via USB will work ?
Speaking of cluster f**ks , recent reviews of Android TV have not been the greatest . Serious lack of programs and games . The Forge TV looks to be a big disaster , no Netflix or external drive support , controller issues they must have taken a course from the Ouya school of Business ?
I may be waiting awhile with my Mojo and Ouya to see how this pans out.
I think game consoles are old fashioned.... Like wearing a watch.
Yeah android TV will take a lot of time to mature.
Because it has no touch screen ... Lol remember when the mojo came out lol
But it has to done that way..
Eventually it will gain more support and apps.
There's always sideloading
I'd rather android over Sony's or Microsoft's platform.
Same, plan on sticking with mojo at least till the end of the year.
Android M External Storage Can Be 'Adopted' As True Internal Storage Or Accessed Normally With No Additional Apps:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...or-accessed-normally-with-no-additional-apps/
It looks like the Shield 16gb has done everything right (+external storage) based off of the reviews I've seen. At least better than this sh** product called the MOJO. Nvidia has saved Android TV and I hope they are happy because their product rocks!
Who is buying one? Anyone?
disorder78 said:
It looks like the Shield 16gb has done everything right (+external storage) based off of the reviews I've seen. At least better than this sh** product called the MOJO. Nvidia has saved Android TV and I hope they are happy because their product rocks!
Who is buying one? Anyone?
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+external storage? you mean having NTFS and xfat?
Let us know if you find people adding a SATA drive as native storage to shield 16g. :good:
Ok here is what I actually found out. I have been told that you cannot move games to a USB HDD. : ( You are allowed to move games to a SD card up to 128 GB. I also heard you cannot add your own SATA drive to the empty drive bay because there is no SATA port inside of the Shield Android TV. I'm a little disappointing with this news, but I still believe the Shield is a great product.
Android M should fix this problem if the software ever comes to Shield Android TV.
wastate2014 said:
So I was shopping for games this morning and I realized just how far microconsole gaming has to go. Honestly at this point how many games can you play on Shield that you can't already play on your Mojo? I like everyone am holding on to my wallet just biting at the bit to lay down my 199.00 for my new shield console This as I am staring at a Fire Tv, Adt1,Ouya that are not even plugged in I hate to admit it but Ouya is still ahead of the game when it comes to controller based games on Android. Downloading from Google Play is a crap shoot in many cases? They also have the storage issue down pat which many of its newer Android Tv bretherin are yet to accomplish. The stupid part is, When I think about Ouya I get pissed because they just keep doing stupid sh?t:silly: Maybe it's the idea I am in love with?
So how many more boxes will I buy before I get a clue?:cyclops:
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IF ouya would of used a tegra 4 and had 2 gigs of ram, they would have done really really well. It was just to underpowered to impress. I think shield tv is going to own the living room. Mojo could stay around if they update to android tv and drop the price to $99.99
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IF ouya would of used a tegra 4 and had 2 gigs of ram, they would have done really really well. It was just to underpowered to impress. I think shield tv is going to own the living room. Mojo could stay around if they update to android tv and drop the price to $99.99
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The Madcatz store has the Mojo down to $103.99. I am pretty sure they are phasing out the Mojo as there is no reference at all on there homepage. The sad thing is Mojo at 2years old still outpowers allot of the current boxes. I looked at the benchmarks of Forge Tv, and the Mojo is neck and neck. Madcatz just dropped the ball with software and seems to have lost interest in any further development . With Razer buying out Ouya I am going to keep the Mojo and see how the new boxes come together after the bugs get worked out.
Mojo and shield
Hi all yeah bought my mojo here in UK for £89. Gotta admit the was some problems at first, but eventually have mine running sweet as a nut. Given the fact that android gaming is on the rise surely makes larger companies like nvidia to push this forward. But scince the release of ouya there has always been a common problem, the issus of compatible Google play store, even the powerful nvidia shield has its problems with that. I use my nexus 7 for gaming with my madcatz mojo controller and play store on here is vastly more. Even looking at the new shield TV console which dam looks good, still is going to have the same problem we all get. Looks to me the new shield has focused more on a device to be a PC streamer from there servers. I am for one not entirely comfortable with That. Rather use my Pc.
KMAXLEE1983 said:
But scince the release of ouya there has always been a common problem, the issus of compatible Google play store, even the powerful nvidia shield has its problems with that.
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Game compatibility on Android is often just an arbitrary lock that can by fixed by device spoofing or sideloading apps extracted from other devices (for example your Nexus 7). And if Market Helper fails in some cases or the target device hasn't been rooted I recommend installing Android X86 on a virtual machine where it's irrelevant if you damage that system when editing the build.prop file.
Mojo and shield
Yeah Google play store checks your device then shows compatible apps based on build prop. I've been modding files for long time and certainly when it came to my mojo, the only way for me which worked best was to modify the build prop. Mojo is stock ROM running moddaco mod, which rooted gave me some more access to apps, 2nd by looking at list from nexus 7 still found lack of apps mainly Gameloft. So I decided to edit build prop file, tricky and bricked device few times, but after days of tinkering and going back and forth to get the file abbreviations put correctly. Build prop file is now running as nvidia shield. With some performance tweaks to cut cpu lag out, Market compatibility is now a lot better. Now I did try out the cm12 on the mojo, liked it and although play store did show more high end games mainly some of the regular games did not show as compatible. Ie- dead trigger. Tried the modacco mod. But it didn't like that. Tonight next move I will try would be cm12, root with towelroot, then apply nvidia build prop. See how it goes, but given the fact play store on shield still suffers I might compile the build prop up from the nexus 7 or looking at the jxd line from there gaming tablets. In all like to see company's working on the goal of compiling the code right for the device to be fully compatible based on spec rather than device model and with the right integration of software for full controller support, seems its all left to us to pick up the pieces to get things to work properly. Lol

Shield TV 16gb with gamepad & War Robots

So I bought this Shield for playing my favorite game War Robots on my TV with a controller. Get home and find it wont even support War Robots to install it. Pretty pissed off about that. Then I notice most games in the android app store wont even work on this device. The older Nvidia shield tablet does play the game and can use the controller. So why the hell did they mess up the new nvidia devices?
Is there a good way to get War Robots onto the shield TV & still use the nvidia controller? I didnt find much in a search online. So I thought Id post. One video came up. But it wasnt explained well enough to me.
I just got the device and haven't done much testing. But.. I downloaded some apps from apk mirror and just installed it, and all of them work in the shield. (use like an USB stick or whatever.)
Hope it helps!
/David

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