Since it has the same camera hardware thought its worth posting here. The Pixel 2 still the best only falling short in low light photos. Anyone agree?
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I'll try to remember tonight, to take one of my long exposures of a room so dark I can't see anything. I've done it before (just to experiment, I deleted them) and the P2 gets pretty good pictures (considering that even OIS isn't that good for a 10 second hand-held exposure). If I remember, I'll post the result. It's overcast now, so bright-light/deep shadow isn't there. (But the dynamic range is pretty good - nothing like what you can do on some films, but better than Kodachrome.)
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I'll try to remember tonight, to take one of my long exposures of a room so dark I can't see anything. I've done it before (just to experiment, I deleted them) and the P2 gets pretty good pictures (considering that even OIS isn't that good for a 10 second hand-held exposure). If I remember, I'll post the result. It's overcast now, so bright-light/deep shadow isn't there. (But the dynamic range is pretty good - nothing like what you can do on some films, but better than Kodachrome.)
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How did you manage 10-sec exposure? What app are you using?
LenX.
Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be on Play any longer, but you can get it on ApkPure.
Thanks for your video.
I think that the S9 tends to overexpose a bit on photos, leading to burnt highlights.
Weirdly it looks like the opposite is true for videos as the pixel tends to overexpose, but personally I don't care too much about videos, while I want my pictures to be the best possible with the hardware.
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Hi,
So i recently got a s5 and unfortunately the slow motion feature on the s5 camera is not in the same level of functionality as its compitotors, like the z2 or m8 (and iphone 5s). I wanted the ability to record the video at the higer fps and then edit which part i wanted in slow motion.
The m8 does this, although cuts the sound (which im actually fine with), and the z2 also does this but keeping the sound and slowing it down also.
So my question or request is: Is there a app, mod or the possibility of one, or even a port of the z2 camera recording( i have seen some features of xperia cameras imported, but not this one), that will do this on the s5?
A user here on the forum suggested to me the app reAction, which does have the slow down effect, but it doesn't slow down a lot and not in the speed that i would like.
Thank you!
No one? :/ what i wanted basicly is an app that records 120fps but can also play it back at regular speed or that doesnt process it to slow down and so i can at least do that in the computer (i guess this is more of a question than request). Or maybe a way to do this with the samsung camera app and a mod, because its in the app that the slow down is made after shooting from what i understood.
What i would really like is a port of the z2 camera or to functions like it or even the m8 that lets you edit. the speeds after. Is a port of any of those possible at all?
Same here. I'm looking for that kind of app. Nothing found yet
I actually just found an app today that it kinda does this, but at the same time it doesnt.
Its called kinemaster and its a video editor that lets you edit the speed of the video and select/make cuts on the video and then slow does down. Problem is that it can only do that with videos of 30fps, even if you have a higher fps video it either wont read it or just give you a message that will scale it down to 30fps. The end result isn't bad but its not really the same thing.
Also, the app is free on the play store and they used to have a paid and free version but now switched to free version but with a subscription a month and what that will do is remove the water marker that the app puts on the corner of the video in the free version. So, it kinda does it but at the same time it doesnt.
It would be much better for the end result to just have a app that would either edit or record it with higher fps and then we can edit that file on the phone. Something like the iphone 5s, or even in the android world the m8 and z2 do(z2 even keeps the sound and slows it down also, but if we could get this even without sound would be great).
The one I found, that of course is not same as having the port from Z2 that it's much easier and faster, is AndroidStudio. Check it out. I always use this one to slow/fast parts of any video
Thanks for the suggestion! I tried it and its indeed easier to select which part is slowed down and it doesn't give that watermark on the videos.
Still not the same as on devices like z2 or m8 (not to mention iphone), but at least is something. I have been looking online, especially on xda which is more reliable, to see if there is a port of the feature of any of these, especially the m8 since some apps were already ported, but no luck.
We would probably need both the camera app and gallery of the m8. From the z2 i think just the camera would be enough since from what i have seen that edit is done there after recording.
I still don't get why Samsung, from all brands with so much features and gimmicks, would just give a video editor or something to edit 120fps to slow down some parts.
Yes, totally. I hope they realize this and they make it. If you have any news about the M8 let me know.
We need to get a huge thread going to get attention
There is a thread in the Note 4 app section where a dev was able to vastly improve the quality of the stock Note 4 app. The software is already there in this time-shift app, all we need is a dev or a few to get into it and get it working. I'm not sure where we would get the most attention but if enough of us get together and request this feature somebody has to take notice. I'm willing to start a bounty and add 100 bucks to it. Here is my thread below, if you guys want to add your support that would be great or if anyone else has an idea of a better way to get some attention I'm all ears.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...v-request-port-xperia-time-shift-app-t2958228
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There is a thread in the Note 4 app section where a dev was able to vastly improve the quality of the stock Note 4 app. The software is already there in this time-shift app, all we need is a dev or a few to get into it and get it working. I'm not sure where we would get the most attention but if enough of us get together and request this feature somebody has to take notice. I'm willing to start a bounty and add 100 bucks to it. Here is my thread below, if you guys want to add your support that would be great or if anyone else has an idea of a better way to get some attention I'm all ears.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...v-request-port-xperia-time-shift-app-t2958228
hello guys, Camara on CM is really bad compared to what i had on GS2 .
i'll share with you guys a series of photos, where i tried diferent type of scenes and i never get a photo without noise. Hope you guys can help in case you have suggestions, and also share your experience.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h4tb1m1weponkwl/IMG_20140914_084510.jpg?dl=0
Thanks
correct link: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/brmw4bcd5e7kg87/AAAQaMbc6soKFa6BxfV1zB9Ua?dl=0
You take the absolute worst pictures. Nothing will make those look good. Check the settings in your camera. The phone is capable of much better than that.
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Lol yeah, I wonder why turning the lights off in a room and using only the flash on the phone makes bad pictures [/sarcasm]
On a serious note, please learn to take photographs before saying the camera sucks
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There is a dedicated thread for this topic already:
[PHOTOS] OnePlus One user photo and video discussion thread
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There is a dedicated thread for this topic already:
[PHOTOS] OnePlus One user photo and video discussion thread
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Thanks!
Since everyone has been talking about splitting this section because the of the camera differences I thought Id make this.
Post em up
Heres a few to start
Edit: looks like the file hosting site is robbing some quality during upload. Better places to host?
Let's try again
Looks like the pics still got robbed on quality during upload.... Scratching my head here
Could just be what the photos actually look like without Sony's triluminous/x-reality display altering on the device itself.
There already is a photo sharing thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/camera-tests-z3-post-pics-t2887635
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What do you guys think? Pixel 2 suffers in low light but other than that, its very good.
Mods can you move this to real life reviews? I cant make a thread there for some reason
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What do you guys think?
The review, as mostly 99% of all camera reviews on YouTube - and specifically the Indian ones, is a mess (to be diplomatic about it!).
There is absolutely no details about the settings that guy used. I presume he only used out-of-the-box / automatic settings on both iPhone X and Pixel 2 XL which is ... lame.
iPhone is very restrictive in terms of what a user is allowed to do with camera settings and the night shots, while improved over the previous generations iPhones, they are still messy. Somehow following the trend, Google has emasculated the camera of some real balls but still has kept to aces in his sleeve: HDR+ and HDR+ Enhanced.
Provided the reviewing guy would have really wanted to squeeze the most of the two smartphone camera he might have gone with the Pixel 2 XL HDR+ for the night and the results would have been really different.
Don't get me wrong. Pixel 2 can be awful for night shots if one's using the defaults in the camera but can also produce wonders with the HDR+ Enhanced mode. Not to mention that there ar community custom versions of Google Camera APK which for the night shots can yield stunning results with way longer exposure times, yet a tripod would be needed to stabilize the beast.
I have attached a sample of nearly dark scene from my Pixel 2 shot, handheld, with Camera_v3.8c_test.apk.
Without looking at it, in the prior comparisons I've seen, I generally prefer the opposite, of iphone X photos for daylight and Pixel 2 for low light. I also tend to prefer the colors of the Pixel photos. And then it is mixed for special situations like close ups and landscape shots.
So it probably is a matter of comparing really good cameras at this point versus the old ones where there would often be a clear winner in most categories. But I'll watch and see how this is done.
Edit: Ok, so I haven't changed my mind after watching the review, except the way he took low light photos did look much worse. But I've seen dim light comparisons where the Pixel 2XL pictures look better.
Definitely a bit of eye of the beholder in the review. It is very hard to compare photos within a video, versus having the actual photos to pull up. His first comparison where he says they look basically the same, I would say the iphone was much clearer. i.e. the sign is clearer and plants in the background have more detail.
I would prefer if he used one of those setups with the phones mounted to something side by side (other than close up shots). Instead he seems to do one, then the other as some have very different angles. Even in the video where he has them somehow mounted, the video does not seem to be locked together. Like it isn't a very solid mounting arrangement. I know there is image stabilization going on, but it just doesn't look like the phones are moving in lock step.
The videos have to be stop framed as he moves around way too much. From that, I think most of the time the Pixel is much better, but at times the iphone video looks better, and usually when it is darker. But he's also combining them in software to make the youtube video, so it would be again nice to have the actual videos rather than and edited together one.
Oddly, the iphone photos look less blue, but video looks more blue and more muted colors in general.
I found this other comparison. Doesn't do low light outside though.
https://www.cnet.com/pictures/iphone-x-vs-pixel-2-photos-are-two-cameras-better-than-one/
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Without looking at it, in the prior comparisons I've seen, I generally prefer the opposite, of iphone X photos for daylight and Pixel 2 for low light. I also tend to prefer the colors of the Pixel photos. And then it is mixed for special situations like close ups and landscape shots.
So it probably is a matter of comparing really good cameras at this point versus the old ones where there would often be a clear winner in most categories. But I'll watch and see how this is done.
Edit: Ok, so I haven't changed my mind after watching the review, except the way he took low light photos did look much worse. But I've seen dim light comparisons where the Pixel 2XL pictures look better.
Definitely a bit of eye of the beholder in the review. It is very hard to compare photos within a video, versus having the actual photos to pull up. His first comparison where he says they look basically the same, I would say the iphone was much clearer. i.e. the sign is clearer and plants in the background have more detail.
I would prefer if he used one of those setups with the phones mounted to something side by side (other than close up shots). Instead he seems to do one, then the other as some have very different angles. Even in the video where he has them somehow mounted, the video does not seem to be locked together. Like it isn't a very solid mounting arrangement. I know there is image stabilization going on, but it just doesn't look like the phones are moving in lock step.
The videos have to be stop framed as he moves around way too much. From that, I think most of the time the Pixel is much better, but at times the iphone video looks better, and usually when it is darker. But he's also combining them in software to make the youtube video, so it would be again nice to have the actual videos rather than and edited together one.
Oddly, the iphone photos look less blue, but video looks more blue and more muted colors in general.
I found this other comparison. Doesn't do low light outside though.
https://www.cnet.com/pictures/iphone-x-vs-pixel-2-photos-are-two-cameras-better-than-one/
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Your observations are sharp on. Indeed the review is off by margins from a relevant one.
Here is another night shot, out of the camera, but I can't remember if I used the Google Camera or the modified one... Anyway the images speaks truth about camera's capabilities with Google's magic algorithms.
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The review, as mostly 99% of all camera reviews on YouTube - and specifically the Indian ones, is a mess (to be diplomatic about it!).
There is absolutely no details about the settings that guy used. I presume he only used out-of-the-box / automatic settings on both iPhone X and Pixel 2 XL which is ... lame.
iPhone is very restrictive in terms of what a user is allowed to do with camera settings and the night shots, while improved over the previous generations iPhones, they are still messy. Somehow following the trend, Google has emasculated the camera of some real balls but still has kept to aces in his sleeve: HDR+ and HDR+ Enhanced.
Provided the reviewing guy would have really wanted to squeeze the most of the two smartphone camera he might have gone with the Pixel 2 XL HDR+ for the night and the results would have been really different.
Don't get me wrong. Pixel 2 can be awful for night shots if one's using the defaults in the camera but can also produce wonders with the HDR+ Enhanced mode. Not to mention that there ar community custom versions of Google Camera APK which for the night shots can yield stunning results with way longer exposure times, yet a tripod would be needed to stabilize the beast.
I have attached a sample of nearly dark scene from my Pixel 2 shot, handheld, with Camera_v3.8c_test.apk.
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You don't know what you're talking about. HDR+ Enhanced does NOT work better at night. The ONLY thing that mode is to be used for is, very rarely, better dynamic range. The difference was more noticeable in the 2016 Pixels. In the 2017 phones, HDR+ On and HDR+ Enhanced make the same result the vast majority of the time. HDR+ On (default mode) is BETTER at night because it captures more frames and reduces noise. The Pixel is noisier than the iPhone in lowlight photography... but has much better dynamic range, and typically better detail. If you don't like the noise, smooth out the noise (and detail as a result) in post processing.
this is a good comparison video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m70Fuoz2cxw
This was using miui rom. I may do another video agaisnt the Pixel 2 with AOSPA rom with the google camera
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Great video! Sad to see how bad the OIS is in the Mi6 compared the 5T with only EIS.
The EIS on the OP5T is amazing, probably better than the Pixel 2
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Great video! Sad to see how bad the OIS is in the Mi6 compared the 5T with only EIS.
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OIS is for sharp photos (and video frames), EIS is for stabilizing motion between frames. OIS doesn't do that. People seem to mistake the two and compare them. It's two different things for two different purposes.
I prefer OIS all the way. You can always apply EIS after the fact, but you cannot sharpen the photo (or frame of the video) after it's been captured blurry...