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My Z008 has got scratches out of nowhere. I always check before placing my phone under pant pockets. Still don't know how come these scratches are appearing. Now looking for a screen guard.
It's the gorilla glass 3 problem, I had the same scratches on my galaxy s5,so I got a tempered glass which is allot better in terms of micro scratches.
But fear not it's not the actual glass that is being scratched but the nano coating on top of the glass which is used to give a soft slide feeling, that's why you only see then with the screen off and from an angle.
The camera lens also gets scratched pretty easily, ad the glossy black plastic frame around the screen also develops small dents even if my phone is in a Ringke case.
I guess they really had to cut corners to give good specs at a cheap price.
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The camera lens also gets scratched pretty easily, ad the glossy black plastic frame around the screen also develops small dents even if my phone is in a Ringke case.
I guess they really had to cut corners to give good specs at a cheap price.
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Same here. the black bezel is easy scratched . I already have alot of scratches on my screen and almost 70 % on my camera lens. I only have my phone for 2 months . And got a case for it after 2 weeks.
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My Z008 has got scratches out of nowhere. I always check before placing my phone under pant pockets. Still don't know how come these scratches are appearing. Now looking for a screen guard.
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With original zen cover no scratches, both zcreen and camera lens. Only a little scratch from wife's dimond earring near front cam, she forget to close cover before phone call, so for me filmscreen is waste of money and touch felling, useless
Apparently all material very soft. Frame around screen really soft.
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Same here. the black bezel is easy scratched . I already have alot of scratches on my screen and almost 70 % on my camera lens. I only have my phone for 2 months . And got a case for it after 2 weeks.
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I have had my phone since mid July and no scratches, black bezel around camera lens still perfect. Phone goes into my pocket every day. I use a dedicated pocket ie: nothing else goes in that pocket.
With the inexpensive Ringke case Impossible to scratch camera bezel or lens when placing phone on its back as it is then inset. For people that carry stuff in pocket with the phone I am sure a case would help prevent scratches. $200 or $300 for the phone spend $10.99 for a case. Lots of people must be buying the case as price has gone up several dollars since I got it.
Tempered Glass protector
If you all are experiencing these micro scratches, it's sort of an inevitable thing. Gorilla glass scratches with grains of sand or little things from your pocket. If you're really worried about your phone, you can purchase a tempered glass screen protector, and a case to fully protect your device!
Case and tempered glass screen protector are a must. Added them as soon as I took my zen out the box
Tempered glass save my screen from crack also.
Even glass broken, but my phone screen is protected.
I've had no issues other then dropping and breaking the screen but the repair guys told me this phone for the cost is really well built with easy repairability
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I quit using a case months ago (cheap crappy pleather wallet case I bought for it just irritates me, and my wife pinched my clear soft gel case). No scratches on screen, one or two minor dents on the black plastic edges but you'd need a magnifying glass to notice them. Very pleased - my previous phone (black slate iPhone 5) got scratches on it if you as much as looked at it, and silver scratches on slate iodised aluminium looked bloody awful.
i have a cover and dont worry about scratch )
Yea same problem got alot of faint scratches out of nowhere threw a tempered glass on
Have quie a few phones and tablets, every one since the Samsung Galaxy S3 has had a tempered glass screen protector installed.
I know this phone is supposed to be cheap in comparison with say, the note 5, but I don't have around $500AUD to throw away just because I cracked the screen, even $200 to repair is a kick in the nuts....
Those glass protectors have helped a lot of my phones survive intact.
I don't care if I don't notice the scratches when the screen is on.
For those hoping miracles on gorilla glass:
Diamonds only can be scratched by diamonds
Sapphire only can be scratched by sapphire or diamonds
Gorrillaglass can be scratched by the diamonds, sapphire or whatever is harder than GorillaGlass, this is the rule.
Where you can find things harder than gorilla glass?
a Jewelry ? sure,
the floor? - maybe, some dirt particles actually are are sand, in some places sand is composed by limestone someties harder than gorillaglass.
your pockets? very likely specially if you have two cellphones, the sapphire cover on the lens camera easy can scratch the gorillaglass on other phone, also some pencils have diamond particles on its graphite, further DIAMONDS PARTICLES ARE VERY COMMON, SINCE SiNTETIC DIAMONDS ARE USE AS ABRASIVE ON MANY DRILLING TOOLS.
So, protect your gorillaglass if you hate scratches, harder is not warranty to be invulnerable.
Currently I'm using an S5 without any cases or covers, and it's still drop-proof, dropped it multiple times on hard floor/concrete and there is no damage on the screen what so ever. And before that I had an HTC One X, which is probably more similar to the Edge in that the screen isn't protected if it drops face down, I did eventually crack it with that kind of a drop. However the edge is gonna be even more problematic because even the back is glass, and no plastic protruding edge to protect it.
Sure I could put it in a bulky case but then it kind of defeats the purpose of having one of the most premium feeling phones ever doesn't it? It'll also negate any ergonomic benefits of the curved back edge as well as the ease of edge swipe on the front edge. Might as well just get something like a.... I don't know, nobody makes high end plastic phones anymore now days, even cheap phones like One Plus is front+back curved glass. Also this thing is already a bigger phone than what I'm used to, adding a beefy case is just gonna make it that much bigger, which I do not like.
Well I guess plenty of people did survive the iPhone 4 glass sandwich era just fine, I'll just have to wish myself luck. I wonder how much would one of those adhesive skins help in a drop situation. Sure they are very thin but if think about the physics of it, gorilla glass is actually quite flexible so it doesn't break from the acceleration of the impact itself, so thinness doesn't really matter. What actually breaks these surface hardens glass is usually a microscopic failure on the surface developing into a big crack. And those microscopic failures can happen when they make contact with sharp hard stuff like individual sand particles, they effectively puncture the surface and develop a weakness. So if you have a skin on the glass, what'll hopefully happen instead is that the skin will be thick enough for the particle to not make direct contact with the glass, and prevent breaking. Even though such thin skins cannot significantly reduce the impact acceleration.
I understand your points, but please, don't ever try to use this phone naked. You NEED a case, the grip is so bad that dropping it is almost a guarantee and the back glass seems to be much more fragile than the front glass from what I have seen in videos. About the cases, you may want to look into the Samsung official plastic backs or (when available) the leather backs. The official plastic back cases from Samsung are the only ones (in my opinion) that really do not ruin the phone's design, the design remains almost intact. However, while the grip is much improved over the naked phone, it is nowhere near other bulky and rubberized cases. A rubberized plastic wrap would be a solution, but the big problem still remains - the metal sides of the phone which are very narrow.
PS: As I understand from the latest spy pics, the iPhone 7 will have a glass back again...probably needed for radio/charging/payment/other secret developments.
There are plenty of case available that won't make the phone look s**t. I'm using a Spigen Crystal Clear, a very good combination of protection and looks. It's impossible to completely keep the phone's look and feel, but it's probably as close as possible whilst being confident of being able to accidentally drop it from pocket height without damage.
Glass protectors on these curved screens are to be avoided, that's my personal opinion anyway. My brother bought numerous types of these for his S6 Edge (expensive and cheap) and not one went on properly without raising on the curves within twenty minutes, causing touch problems on the edges. Go for a good quality film type like a Zagg HD Dry.
I copied you entirely mate I'm not ashamed to say. Got my Spigen Crystal Clear yesterday and, your right, it does look good, but not as good as the nekkid phone itself. But I guess that's the price of good protection.
Just waiting for my Zagg HD Dry front and back covers to arrive today.
I'm personally using Otter Box Commuter for me and my wife's phone. I was able to try it on in store before purchasing. I was sort of desperate for a case on delivery day and it was the most protective case I found. I'm happy with it overall. It's sleep and slim and although the whole front in uncovered it does have raised top and bottom edges so if the phone falls flat the screen doesn't actually touch the floor.
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Use it naked.
Control your fingers.
nobnut said:
Use it naked.
Control your fingers.
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Too risky lol
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I would love to use the phone naked as it just looks so good, but I am scared to risk it. I have never dropped and cracked a phone, and I had an Iphone 4S without a case for 2 years which were well known for getting smashed, I have a clear case on the edge at the moment to offer it some protection.
Carrying and using smart phones without any case is just asking for trouble. I have the S7 Edge and when it arrived on March 2nd it stayed at home in the box until my Spigen Ultra Hybrid case arrived (which was a few days later). I was still using my S5 because I didn't want to take any chances.
After my case arrived I put it on but I still keep the original plastic film on the screen because I was waiting for my Skinomi screen protector to arrive. My Skinomi arrived yesterday and I installed it last night.
So if you don't want a bulky case get the Spigen Ultra Hybrid (I went with the crystal clear color). I ordered my case and screen protector from Amazon. The case is very nice looking and doesn't add any bulk to the phone.
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but I still keep the original plastic film on
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Oh my.
I'm using this case. It's amazing. Thin, easy to grip and not too expensive.
http://www.bodyguardz.com/unequal-shock-case-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge.html
I use the phone naked and dropped it from about 3,5 feet, first it hit the steel base of a table and than it bounced on a wooden floor, not a scratch :angel:
Juuls said:
I use the phone naked and dropped it from about 3,5 feet, first it hit the steel base of a table and than it bounced on a wooden floor, not a scratch :angel:
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Q.E.D.
So I had my s7 edge completely naked for a while with just a dbrand skin (stupid, I know). I eventually dropped it and after a horrible two-week process I finally have it back and fixed. I've been looking at cases and screen protectors, but the reviews are so biased it's hard to tell what's good. Currently, I'm looking at a case from "carved" (it's my first post so I can't post their link). They're very stylish but have no bumper over the screen so I will definitely need a screen protector. Obviously, tempered glass is best but there seem to be no good covers in that regard. If anyone has any suggestions I would love to hear what you're using on your s7 edge (both cases and screen protectors)!
I use a stilgut ultra thin flip case, I tried a plain tpu screen protector and i consider myself an expert at installation for those things and the weird corners would pull up and even 1 edge i didnt want any dirt getting under it so i use the flip case that covers the bare screen without protector.
im using this screen protector http://www.ebay.com/itm/Spigen-Curv...851711?hash=item3abf325bbf:g:e8YAAOSwYmZXDYtx and this case http://www.ebay.com/itm/Poetic-Revo...hash=item236daa365b:m:meyHa-dwSsHGbglEUNxCTmA, it doesnt add alot of bulk in my opinion and feels great
Skinomi full body for me, no problem.
Using spigen ultra hybrid case
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01A...tra+hybrid&dpPl=1&dpID=31aCpLMbROL&ref=plSrch
and armorsuit case friendly screen protector
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01A...+armorsuit&dpPl=1&dpID=51WtCcEuicL&ref=plSrch
Several drops about 5 or 6 times mostly on ceramic surface and there is no damage what so ever to the phone nor the case.
I've just come from an S4 to an S7. I'm used to tempered glass protectors, because they're super easy to apply and give the feeling of a premium screen + that added protection. However, I was unable to find a decent tempered glass screen for the edge. The first one didn't fit properly, and left ridges which made the edge panel unpleasant to use. The second one was too thick, and the edges were being caught by my plastic Spigen case. The third felt fragile when applying it and cracked within a few days of just being in my pocket. All of the other ones were basically square and therefore the edges weren't covered at all. I gave up at that point.
I didn't want a PET film screen. I've used them for years, going all the way back to a 5800 XpressMusic, also on my S1 and my Nexus 4, and usually with horrific results. They scratch easily, they lift easily, they never tend to sit right which means you get dust patches in the corners and their light output is usually awful, especially the gloss ones. Give them a few months, and the light output will be unbearable due to the amount of scratches..
Step foward.... TPU Screen Protectors There's a guy selling two for £2.45 on eBay delivered. These things are a bloody revelation to me, I'd never heard of them until I got this phone. I can't believe people are persevering with the tempered glass screens for the Edge. These babies really are the way forward for this phone. The TPU is basically elastic which means it covers the edges perfectly, and it is thin enough not to be caught or interfered with by my case. Supposedly, the TPU is self-healing: basically light and medium scratches effectively disappear thanks to the elasticity of the plastic filling in the gaps, and I can see what they mean. A normal PET Protector for me, would usually be scratched all over by now, yet this TPU protector, you really wouldn't know that it was applied at all. It's completely spotless. No bubbles either which I've only ever achieved with tempered glass protectors. In fact, the only way you can tell this protector is applied at all, is because you can see the pre-cut holes for the camera and sensors at the top. Check out the light output too!!! The only thing that comes close is a tempered glass protector, and I would even go as far as saying this TPU one might even be better!!! (because it has less light reflection)
Tempered glass protectors maybe the hot fashion at the moment, but honestly, I don't think you can go far wrong with the TPU ones for this phone. I am aware that tempered glass protectors give a layer of impact protection too, but that's for you to decide. How many times have you smashed your screen etc? Do you really need that impact protection? If you do, would a standard TPU case be enough, or is the glass protector important....
Edit: @sa3d12 has linked to the case I'm using, the Spigen one.
Thanks all for the recommendations, this has really helped my search
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I've just come from an S4 to an S7. I'm used to tempered glass protectors, because they're super easy to apply and give the feeling of a premium screen + that added protection. However, I was unable to find a decent tempered glass screen for the edge. The first one didn't fit properly, and left ridges which made the edge panel unpleasant to use. The second one was too thick, and the edges were being caught by my plastic Spigen case. The third felt fragile when applying it and cracked within a few days of just being in my pocket. All of the other ones were basically square and therefore the edges weren't covered at all. I gave up at that point.
I didn't want a PET film screen. I've used them for years, going all the way back to a 5800 XpressMusic, also on my S1 and my Nexus 4, and usually with horrific results. They scratch easily, they lift easily, they never tend to sit right which means you get dust patches in the corners and their light output is usually awful, especially the gloss ones. Give them a few months, and the light output will be unbearable due to the amount of scratches..
Step foward.... TPU Screen Protectors There's a guy selling two for £2.45 on eBay delivered. These things are a bloody revelation to me, I'd never heard of them until I got this phone. I can't believe people are persevering with the tempered glass screens for the Edge. These babies really are the way forward for this phone. The TPU is basically elastic which means it covers the edges perfectly, and it is thin enough not to be caught or interfered with by my case. Supposedly, the TPU is self-healing: basically light and medium scratches effectively disappear thanks to the elasticity of the plastic filling in the gaps, and I can see what they mean. A normal PET Protector for me, would usually be scratched all over by now, yet this TPU protector, you really wouldn't know that it was applied at all. It's completely spotless. No bubbles either which I've only ever achieved with tempered glass protectors. In fact, the only way you can tell this protector is applied at all, is because you can see the pre-cut holes for the camera and sensors at the top. Check out the light output too!!! The only thing that comes close is a tempered glass protector, and I would even go as far as saying this TPU one might even be better!!! (because it has less light reflection)
Tempered glass protectors maybe the hot fashion at the moment, but honestly, I don't think you can go far wrong with the TPU ones for this phone. I am aware that tempered glass protectors give a layer of impact protection too, but that's for you to decide. How many times have you smashed your screen etc? Do you really need that impact protection? If you do, would a standard TPU case be enough, or is the glass protector important....
Edit: @sa3d12 has linked to the case I'm using, the Spigen one.
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The process that I went through to get my phone fixed took so long and was so horrible that I REALLY dont want to break it again and I want to make sure I have good protection. The TPU protectors look pretty cool though, and ill look for some!
skezza said:
These things are a bloody revelation to me, I'd never heard of them until I got this phone. I can't believe people are persevering with the tempered glass screens for the Edge. These babies really are the way forward for this phone.
Edit: @sa3d12 has linked to the case I'm using, the Spigen one.
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I can explain this to you in full.
That's because most of us had used those TPU screen protectors for several years before the tempered glass screen protectors came out and the tempered glass screen protectors are a giant leap forward over TPU/film/wet application style screen protectors. This was before we were forced into curved edge screens. You see, before the large screen devices were basically only the Samsung Note series which all had very large screens that were flat and tempered glass screen protectors were absolutely the best option, especially using the S Pen, the TPU protectors are rubbery and there are indentations and marks left on them that doesn't happen on glass. Additionally if you ever drop your phone on it's screen with the TPU/film type protectors your screen is still trashed. I have personally had multiple phones with tempered glass screen protectors that had the protector shattered but the screen underneath was left pristine. Also the responsiveness and accuracy of the pressure sensitive spen functionality just is horrible with a film type screen protector but is perfect with glass.
With the Note 5, S6 Edge Plus people could still get a 5.5" + screen with the compatibility of a tempered glass screen protector.
Fast forward and suddenly Samsung decided that to get a 5.5-5.7 inch screen you must also get a curved edge screen starting with the S7 Edge/Note 7. So now everyone is looking for the superior look/feel/protection of the tempered glass screen protector and none of the manufacturers seem to be able to produce one that actually fits, adheres correctly and stays put without allowing dust and crap underneath them. None of them work well which is why this and many other threads like it exist. Nobody is debating the superiority of the tempered glass over the TPU screen protectors. Tempered glass is simply better in all regards. The fact you just now suddenly found a TPU screen protector and have fallen in love with it and can't figure out why we haven't all just done that is not a new paradigm. You simply missed out on years of crappy TPU screen protectors to put into perspective just how much better glass is, because getting one to fit properly was never an issue prior to 2016.
Welcome to the past. Don't drop that phone on it's screen. You'll be peeling your TPU screen protector up to reveal a smashed screen and then be like the rest of us......angry that large screen device manufacturers like Samsung have fallen in love with a mostly gimmicky non-functional curved edge screen in exchange for being robust and functionally sound.
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I can explain this to you in full.
That's because most of us had used those TPU screen protectors for several years before the tempered glass screen protectors came out and the tempered glass screen protectors are a giant leap forward over TPU/film/wet application style screen protectors. This was before we were forced into curved edge screens. You see, before the large screen devices were basically only the Samsung Note series which all had very large screens that were flat and tempered glass screen protectors were absolutely the best option, especially using the S Pen, the TPU protectors are rubbery and there are indentations and marks left on them that doesn't happen on glass. Additionally if you ever drop your phone on it's screen with the TPU/film type protectors your screen is still trashed. I have personally had multiple phones with tempered glass screen protectors that had the protector shattered but the screen underneath was left pristine. Also the responsiveness and accuracy of the pressure sensitive spen functionality just is horrible with a film type screen protector but is perfect with glass.
With the Note 5, S6 Edge Plus people could still get a 5.5" + screen with the compatibility of a tempered glass screen protector.
Fast forward and suddenly Samsung decided that to get a 5.5-5.7 inch screen you must also get a curved edge screen starting with the S7 Edge/Note 7. So now everyone is looking for the superior look/feel/protection of the tempered glass screen protector and none of the manufacturers seem to be able to produce one that actually fits, adheres correctly and stays put without allowing dust and crap underneath them. None of them work well which is why this and many other threads like it exist. Nobody is debating the superiority of the tempered glass over the TPU screen protectors. Tempered glass is simply better in all regards. The fact you just now suddenly found a TPU screen protector and have fallen in love with it and can't figure out why we haven't all just done that is not a new paradigm. You simply missed out on years of crappy TPU screen protectors to put into perspective just how much better glass is, because getting one to fit properly was never an issue prior to 2016.
Welcome to the past. Don't drop that phone on it's screen. You'll be peeling your TPU screen protector up to reveal a smashed screen and then be like the rest of us......angry that large screen device manufacturers like Samsung have fallen in love with a mostly gimmicky non-functional curved edge screen in exchange for being robust and functionally sound.
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Wow, that's some reply lol. A few things though:
-I think you're asserting that TPU protectors were the norm before Tempered Glass protectors. They weren't, certainly not in my experience. Everyone and their dog were using PET film protectors before tempered glass ones came out. I'd say those who used TPU were probably in the minority really. Tempered Glass protectors are of course the best option, but quite evidently, we're struggling to find ones that actually fit nicely.
-I am very happy with tempered glass protectors that fit, but ultimately, the ones I bought don't. I've settled for a TPU protector because it actually looks nice and feels fine.
-Dropping your phone doesn't always result in a smashed screen. If you've got a case on it, you might be lucky. I dropped my phone many a time with a PET film and it survived. That's the case for you.
Nobody forced you to buy a Samsung Edge phone dude? The standard S7 is not curved and is considered by some to be a better phone than the Edge. Or you could have had an LG G5 or the Pixel phone? Sounds like you're suffering a bit of buyers remorse here. Get an S7 and your glass protector then be happy
@skezza, fast forward 4 1/2 months, and I'm curious how your TPU screen protector is holding up. I just got an S7 Edge, and so I'm in the market for a good screen protector. Right now, Armorsuit's "self healing" TPU protectors are going for under $8, so even if it only lasts a few months, that's not a bad deal.
TIA!
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Wow, that's some reply lol. A few things though:
-I think you're asserting that TPU protectors were the norm before Tempered Glass protectors. They weren't, certainly not in my experience. Everyone and their dog were using PET film protectors before tempered glass ones came out. I'd say those who used TPU were probably in the minority really. Tempered Glass protectors are of course the best option, but quite evidently, we're struggling to find ones that actually fit nicely.
-I am very happy with tempered glass protectors that fit, but ultimately, the ones I bought don't. I've settled for a TPU protector because it actually looks nice and feels fine.
-Dropping your phone doesn't always result in a smashed screen. If you've got a case on it, you might be lucky. I dropped my phone many a time with a PET film and it survived. That's the case for you.
Nobody forced you to buy a Samsung Edge phone dude? The standard S7 is not curved and is considered by some to be a better phone than the Edge. Or you could have had an LG G5 or the Pixel phone? Sounds like you're suffering a bit of buyers remorse here. Get an S7 and your glass protector then be happy
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So just to be clear, you decided to hop on a thread about screen protectors, basically call everyone foolish for wanting impact protection, and then suggest that we get a different phone? What?!?
Most of us chose the S7 edge because of the many hardware advantages over other phones. The curved screen was something we were willing to put up with because the hardware was so great. It's not crazy to want a tempered glass cover (which protects from scratches AND impact) to get full protection for our $500+ phone. If you've figured out a way to ensure your phone never lands on its face, then congratulations.
So, getting "an S7 and your glass protector then be happy" is not a solution. It's an asinine, unhelpful answer that doesn't provide a real solution.
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@skezza, fast forward 4 1/2 months, and I'm curious how your TPU screen protector is holding up. I just got an S7 Edge, and so I'm in the market for a good screen protector. Right now, Armorsuit's "self healing" TPU protectors are going for under $8, so even if it only lasts a few months, that's not a bad deal.
TIA!
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Very happy. Few more scratches now but worth every penny.
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gs7ephoneguy said:
So just to be clear, you decided to hop on a thread about screen protectors, basically call everyone foolish for wanting impact protection, and then suggest that we get a different phone? What?!?
Most of us chose the S7 edge because of the many hardware advantages over other phones. The curved screen was something we were willing to put up with because the hardware was so great. It's not crazy to want a tempered glass cover (which protects from scratches AND impact) to get full protection for our $500+ phone. If you've figured out a way to ensure your phone never lands on its face, then congratulations.
So, getting "an S7 and your glass protector then be happy" is not a solution. It's an asinine, unhelpful answer that doesn't provide a real solution.
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Lol. I think I'll just leave this. You're clearly missing the point.
Just to add, I decided to have a look at my second TPU protector today and found the adhesive was not very sticky anymore. I wonder if these things have a shelf life?
Edit: The old fashioned fairy liquid trick didn't bring it back to life either, although it has reduced some bubbles.
My screen protector I've had on for ages and I use a case by supcase
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Tempered glass?
Hey guys, For those of you who don't know me I have a channel GravX Reviews... I started it after becoming utterly pissed off with Tempered glass screen protectors for curved screens. Finally Found a good one for the S7 Edge in Whitestone Dome glass...But i wanted something you just slap on with no crazy installation...My channel was a result of that search... Hopefully this can help clarify and save you money ( I'm also writing this so you don't have to watch the video I am working on) The glass i talk about can rang from.20mm to .50mm in thickness..most are .33 mm.
This Knowledge is from testing over 400 kinds of Tempered glass over 4 years , needless to say i have a small idea of what Im talking about-( all from amazon-ebay or allibaba) im sure some of you will be ignorant enough to tell me I'm wrong and that glass truly is different..That's fine your entitled to your opinion .. All I'm doing is trying to help save people money and frustration- I wont try and sell you any product... Ive used the case friendly version for a long time because it was cheap and easy to pop off and on.. I noticed some touch issues...with all of them but i just got used to it.. In the end you get what ever you want. this is just here as a guide
All of these items can be bought on alibaba for 10-20cents for the edged adhesive ones in bulk...the re-sellers send them custom graphics for their boxes and then sell them like they designed it...( so stupid) kind of like zero lemons 5500 MAH battery case... its the same one as the 5500 MAH cases on ebay-
1st. Types of Glass screen protectors for the Galaxy S9/Plus or any protector for that matter..
Case Friendly ( any one that looks like this will be virtually identical to the next ( it might have thicker or slimmer black silk printing) ( which is the Black or white or what ever color they use) They also come in clear
https://www.amazon.com/Protector-Ca...9d-20&linkId=0e4c23f42c372db5a43d5221f96f8d2f
Pros-
Can be cheap
Works with most cases- But not all... UAG <<cough cough>>
Easy and fast to put on
Will protect your phone
oleophobic coating is cheap and comes off fast.
Cons
Edged Adhesive ( they will try to trick you by saying "full Coverage
Micro Dot matrix - AKA "pixel grid Technology" such a stupid term
"precision Grid matrix" "Perfect touch Grid" Its all the same stupid ****- Its placed into screen protectors that don't have full adhesive to assist in the identification of touch on the display by the digitizer panel
Re sellers grossly over charge for them and add Bull**** terms such as shatterproof...or ballistic or bulletproof...explosion proof- Anti Fingerprint ETC
2. Case friendly Full adhesive
They made cheap soft glass ones for the S8 and note 8 and they sucked...one side always had air bubbles.
The new Version is supposedly Hard Glass- Zagg is making the Curve glass elite
https://www.zagg.com/us/en_us/invis...protector/glass-curve-elite-samsung-galaxy-s9
I have it on order and will test it when i get it next week.
Im sure if the product is good it will have more sellers... Zagg does have a lifetime warranty which cost 5 -10 dollars to ship depending where you are, which if the product is good might make a worthy investment...But time will tell
2A- Case Friendly Privacy screens-
https://www.amazon.com/Protector-Ve...9d-20&linkId=ea6e28cfd2269ce9a43cb5ecdab9a914
Identical to the the above mentioned case friendly ones but with an extra layer of Privacy Film ( which makes it thicker
They all have edged adhesive and they are all the same product..Nothing special between sellers- NO MATTER what they say
3. Full Coverage Screen Protectors ( otterbox will sell an Alpha glass version of this that might be cut Short like the Galaxy Note 8 Version...But its the same thing...just a few inches shorter ( all pros and Cons Apply)
So many of these flood the market and they are all the same garbage with Edge strips of adhesive ( the ones for the S9 / S9 plus have thicker bands of edged adhesive...but it will still cause issues..
https://www.amazon.com/Protector-Co...9d-20&linkId=4e1080c6fdae78ae656456b35cc76aae
Pros-
Covers your entire display
Cheap
Easy to put on
Cons
Doesn't work with a lot of cases
( it does work with Casemate ToughStand and ToughMag)
Sellers overcharge for the same ****ty product ( while adding flashy words like Bullet proof or 11 lbs of protection)
Will have touch issues with the screen due to edged adhesive ( it works OK..but some people will notice a degradation of sensitivity
Micro Dots
4. Full Coverage Full adhesive
This is the same as the regular full screen one before but with Full adhesive according the seller
https://www.amazon.com/Improve-Sens...9d-20&linkId=dd8fec54bddaa1443f4d9fc10dee4983
All the Pros as the Full screen Coverage version... Just with " Full screen Adhesive"
Cons if the adhesive is truly full screen would only be case compatibility
5. Case Friendly UV Glass kits ( whitestone Dome Glass and Alibaba Generic Kit)
Whitestone- https://www.amazon.com/Protector-Gl...9d-20&linkId=bdf7dd57946aa39b9e1d31c7b35156df
Alibaba Generic ( you need to buy 10 minimum order to get them
https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...l?spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.30.466f2b24loSX3N
UV KIT
Pros- Japanese Glass All the above use Chinese glass - Yes you can See and feel a difference -
Crystal Clear - no Micro Dot)
Oleophobic coating is high quality and can last up too 6 months depending on usage
Hydrophobic coating can last even longer.
Sealed due to the LOCA adhesive used , meaning no water or dirt can get under the glass
Cons
Expensive
Complicated installation
Easy to mess up
If you get dirt under it your screwed
Cannot be replaced after curing is done ( well..it can but its not worth the headache cleaning it up)
If done wrong and the safeguards aren't in place you can get adhesive in your speaker grill ( use the Speaker covers included)
The whitestone Kit while a lot more expensive then the allibaba generic kit does have a warranty and Whitestone is actively involved in customer satisfaction- they were the first to market this..
White stone has the Speaker Cover stickers which are an awesome touch and requested feature by alot of us. I dont know if the Generic One has them.. I didn't see it on the Images and they supplier has not answered me yet... Since the seller is the factory that makes them for whitestone it should - i think its shaddy AF that whitestones Factory Supplier is selling the Dome Kit unbranded and at a huge price difference...but i cant say im surprised.
If i missed anything please let me know
I didn't include FILM protectors..because they are useless and i didnt include liquid coating kits becuase they are essentially snake oil and will help with water and fingerprint resistance at the most... I will however be testing these products too see if they change in the past 3 years. I hope this helps you guys! Feel free to drop by the channel and show some love and support ( only if you want )
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Are there any good glass without dot matrix for those with extra Whitestone LOCA or DIY LOCA?
Cheaper UV light solution aka whitestone dome from china can be found here, and you can buy only one if you want, not 10 minimum like alibaba.
Also full screen adhesive protector aka the Zagg curve elite can be found for half the price here as well.
I bought both and will report back after i receive them.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07B...l+adhesive&dpPl=1&dpID=41RhK1whyLL&ref=plSrch
This looks legit? The generic whitestone from alibaba charges too much to ship here. She charges me $21 for shipping! How much was your shipping cost?
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07B...l+adhesive&dpPl=1&dpID=41RhK1whyLL&ref=plSrch
This looks legit? The generic whitestone from alibaba charges too much to ship here. She charges me $21 for shipping! How much was your shipping cost?
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Don't get the one you linked from Amazon. That one only covers the flat part of the screen. I had something similar on my S7 Edge and you can see the rainbow effect along the edges of the screen protector.
The one on Aliexpress is $29 with UV light and $25 without. I might consider trying it.
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Don't get the one you linked from Amazon. That one only covers the flat part of the screen. I had something similar on my S7 Edge and you can see the rainbow effect along the edges of the screen protector.
The one on Aliexpress is $29 with UV light and $25 without. I might consider trying it.
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I don't mind it not covering the curved part because no protector will, even whitestone doesn't cover the curved edges, but if it's full adhesive, you should not see rainbow right?
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mahdibassam said:
Cheaper UV light solution aka whitestone dome from china can be found here, and you can buy only one if you want, not 10 minimum like alibaba.
Also full screen adhesive protector aka the Zagg curve elite can be found for half the price here as well.
I bought both and will report back after i receive them.
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The curved one from aliexpress is same as the curved one on amazon I linked. Both stops short of where the curve is. I wonder if the Zagg is the same?
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I don't mind it not covering the curved part because no protector will, even whitestone doesn't cover the curved edges, but if it's full adhesive, you should not see rainbow right?
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The curved one from aliexpress is same as the curved one on amazon I linked. Both stops short of where the curve is. I wonder if the Zagg is the same?
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Sorry. I wasn't being clear enough in my description. What I mean was that the screen protector doesn't cover the edge screen where it starts to curve down, only the part where it is completely flat. When you swipe to bring out the edge panel, you will have to run your finger up the edge of the screen protector, like a speed bump.
I figured that was the case, probably same vendor as the amazon one as they all come out of China.
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I didn't include FILM protectors..because they are useless and i didnt include liquid coating kits becuase they are essentially snake oil and will help with water and fingerprint resistance at the most... I will however be testing these products too see if they change in the past 3 years. I hope this helps you guys! Feel free to drop by the channel and show some love and support ( only if you want )
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Thanks for this excellent write-up. I'm curious why you say film protectors are useless? I have been using ZAGG's invisibleSHIELD HD Clarity on my S7 and found it to be excellent. In particular, I use a thin case (Ringke) which only provides a slight recess for the screen. So when I've dropped the phone square on the screen, I've noticed that in spite of landing on pebbles or rocks, the invisible shield took the brunt of the force and eventually "healed" itself (warped back into shape) with no damage to the glass.
I've been contemplating moving to a hard glass screen protector for a while, but have been very pleased with the level of protection I've been getting from these invisible shields. What are negatives versus glass?
The invisshield seems to curve around the glass for their note 8 one so maybe their s9 one will curve as well? They use a full adhesive method but without the plastic placeholder and at $20 ish. I haven't ordered one yet. Hoping Gravx can compare it to the other protectors out their. Guy might send one out for review to Gravx if he asks for one.
Video version with curve elite
Curve elite Hands on
I should have my phone today
So I'll start the glass videos soon
I saw you mention the whitestone uses Japanese glass. Does the generic full adhesive glass from Ali use Japanese glass?
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I saw you mention the whitestone uses Japanese glass. Does the generic full adhesive glass from Ali use Japanese glass?
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This is what was listed in the description:
2.Made from the highest grade Japan Asahi Glass, our multilayered screen protectors are made with polished, rounded edges and provide 99.99% HD Clarity and Touch Accuracy.
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Their product looks exactly like Whitestone's.
I got the Zagg installed on my phone at Best Buy today and i hadn't noticed till I got home at night that it doesn't really cover the edges all the way
BiigDragon said:
I got the Zagg installed on my phone at Best Buy today and i hadn't noticed till I got home at night that it doesn't really cover the edges all the way
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I don't think any of them actually do. That's why I don't like the black boarder. I ordered a Bodyguardz to try
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Removing my Whitestone after the curring process and cleaning it was fairly easy. Soaked the glass in 70% isopropyl alcohol for an hour or so. I was easily able to scrape the glue off with my fingernail. Soaked it a bit longer and then used a microfiber clothe soaked in the alcohol to further clean it and get more adhesive off. (all adhesive was removed) Reapplied the screen protector with the 2nd bottle and it went on perfect. YMMV
Do not buy this product
Despite following the instructions to the letter this product did not sit flat on my phone , rather it only stuck in the middle.
I strongly advise to avoid the invisibleshield glass cover for s9+ and wait for something better to come along. Do NOT buy
Zagg is honestly a RIP off. They always lie and use marketing bs. A ton of large youtubers over 1mil subs have proven this multiple times. I'm surprised the community at xda one of the more knowledgable forums out there keep buying it. Not to mention our own GravX doing some good comparisons for us.
Save yourself the $50 and the $15 shipping replacement.
Here is the Klearlook tempered glass. I have provided photos and I will update about the touch sensitivity experience along with if the glass stays onto the display or if it has cracked. In my limited experience, the feeling of the tempered glass does feel different than having no tempered glass. The glass is compatible with the Spigen Rugged Crystal Slim Clear Case. It does appear to be similar or exactly like the Caseology glass since it comes with that installation protector.
Edit: It is a pixel dot matrix screen protector. So far, I haven't noticed any touch sensitivity issues yet but I will continue to update.
Edit 2: Touch sensitivity hasn't been an issue for the past few days so far. I also used pointer option in developer tools and I didn't see any dead spots. Tempered glass hasn't cracked. Oleophobic coating is not good. Tempered glass is very reflective and can make scenarios such as looking at the phone for navigation to be a visual challenge.
Edit 3: It has been a few weeks since I have owned the screen protector. It has not cracked or lifted. I haven't had issues with touch sensitivity (keep in mind I have increase touch sensitivity option on). Seems like a dust magnet. I will continue to use this tempered glass as the positives out weights the negatives. In the end, it protects my phone and it has not got in the way of my touch screen experience.
Edit 4: I dropped my phone at the gym with a case on and part of the top is chipped. The rest of the screen's integrity is in tact. Oleophobic coating is considered decent.
Edit 5: A few months since I have owned the phone and tempered glass. After I dropped it from the gym, I replaced it with a new one. I only have touch screen issues sometimes (typing on keyboard). The tempered glass has not peeled off. It has not randomly cracked. Decent to poor oleophobic coating. You can see the finger prints easily. Not difficult to see when using it as a GPS.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B2PV9Q2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
MacShark said:
Here is the Klearlook tempered glass. I have provided photos and I will update about the touch sensitivity experience along with if the glass stays onto the display or if it has cracked. In my limited experience, the feeling of the tempered glass does feel different than having no tempered glass. It appears this is not a pixel dot matrix tempered glass. The glass is compatible with the Spigen Rugged Crystal Slim Clear Case. It does appear to be similar or exactly like the ZAGG glass.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B2PV9Q2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Do you hear popping noise or clicking noise when you type with this screen on? It's probably edge adhesive, and not good like the rest. To see the dot matrix, you have to look really careful.
I ordered a $2.15 LOCA tempered glass screen protector on Aliexpress. Purchased 08/28 and received it today 09/17. I live in San Francisco. Overall the quality of the screen is pretty much the same as the Whitestone. This one doesn't come with the plastic alignment case that the Whitestone comes with, but you get a UV light and single bottle of glue. I used the same procedure as Whitestone but just without the guide. Also you don't get any tapes to protect the USB ports, etc. I just cut some packing tape and covered those up. I did ok, there is a small air bubble at the bottom. I hope it slowly cures over time. My experience with Whitestone is that you don't want to push and squeeze too hard. You can barely notice it when screen is on, but I'm kind of OCD so I ordered another and may swap it.
So if you have experience and can wait (Note 10/10+ comes with a screen protector), save some money. BTW, finger print works just fine.
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is that an Spigen tough armor case?
cheers
Same experience. Nothing fancy, but it gets the job done. Just tape over the speakers. There are some on ebay for a similar price if you don't like using Ali for some reason.
Whitestone and AMFILM are good if you need to be spoon fed.
*looks at my Whitestone with no bubbles* Hmmm... Maybe being "spoon-fed" isn't so bad.
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*looks at my Whitestone with no bubbles* Hmmm... Maybe being "spoon-fed" isn't so bad.
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I had bubble with my first Whitestone. I think having the guide cage helps but if you have experience, it's not necessary. There is just some luck to it.
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I had bubble with my first Whitestone. I think having the guide cage helps but if you have experience, it's not necessary. There is just some luck to it.
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I've installed quite a few LOCA TGSPs. Some I bought LOCA separate and then bought a TGSP and made my own kit. Worked great, was messy AF to install, cause I had NO idea how much to use, LOL. and they all chipped and cracked in a week or two.
I've also bought some cheaper kits that included the right amount of LOCA and a TGSP. They ended up lifting on the edges. Last one I tried was Note 9.
I wound buying a second used Note 9 that already had Whitestone Dome installed by the previous owner, and I loved it. So when I pre-ordered my Note 10+, I pre-ordered a Whitestone Dome for it. Sucked paying over $40, but honestly, I've spent hundreds in the past trying to find the "perfect" screen protector. Don't regret Whitestone or the money spent at all. And the installation tray made it dead simple. It was worth it to get it right the first time.
If I had to change TGSPs, if go with AmFilm, just because they're also getting great reviews are basically half the price. Or I'd go back to a soft screen protector, the Ringke Dual Easy Film. It's just basically invisible.
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I've installed quite a few LOCA TGSPs. Some I bought LOCA separate and then bought a TGSP and made my own kit. Worked great, was messy AF to install, cause I had NO idea how much to use, LOL. and they all chipped and cracked in a week or two.
I've also bought some cheaper kits that included the right amount of LOCA and a TGSP. They ended up lifting on the edges. Last one I tried was Note 9.
I wound buying a second used Note 9 that already had Whitestone Dome installed by the previous owner, and I loved it. So when I pre-ordered my Note 10+, I pre-ordered a Whitestone Dome for it. Sucked paying over $40, but honestly, I've spent hundreds in the past trying to find the "perfect" screen protector. Don't regret Whitestone or the money spent at all. And the installation tray made it dead simple. It was worth it to get it right the first time.
If I had to change TGSPs, if go with AmFilm, just because they're also getting great reviews are basically half the price. Or I'd go back to a soft screen protector, the Ringke Dual Easy Film. It's just basically invisible.
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Soft ones are uncomfortable with spen right? I tried one for the Note 9.
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gordec said:
Soft ones are uncomfortable with spen right? I tried one for the Note 9.
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Depends on which one you buy the wet install ones typically suck to use with the SPen. The Ringke was awesome. Couldn't tell it was there, even with the SPen. I honestly can't speak highly enough of them. They honestly feel like glass.
Thanks. Bought one to try.
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Depends on which one you buy the wet install ones typically suck to use with the SPen. The Ringke was awesome. Couldn't tell it was there, even with the SPen. I honestly can't speak highly enough of them. They honestly feel like glass.
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Installed it. I like it. It's not glass but very smooth with Spen. The extreme edges has slight lift but very mild. Not sure if you had some tricks to get all the edges to stay down.
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Installed it. I like it. It's not glass but very smooth with Spen. The extreme edges has slight lift but very mild. Not sure if you had some tricks to get all the edges to stay down.
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I haven't tried one on my N10+, but installed them on my Note 9 and my wife's S10+. Neither one had any issues with the edges lifting at all. I wish I had some tricks to offer, but I just followed the directions.
It's funny, when I installed my wife's Ringke on her S10+ I was showing her the difference between it and the Whitestone Dome tempered glass (which are the time was on my Note 9). I was showing her how glass was smoother than her Ringke protector, but to my surprise, my finger actually glided easier across her Ringke than my Whitestone! Now my Whitestone Dome on that phone was a few months old, so some of the oleophobic coating had probably worn off and her Ringke screen protector was brand new, but I was really shocked and just how smooth it was to the touch.
As far as the lifting edges, two thoughts. One, you didn't get it lined up perfectly so maybe something is a little off? A half millimeter either way could make it uneven. But I don't think thats the issue. Two, perhaps the edges of your phone weren't clean enough and had some residual oils? Or three, you just got a faulty screen protector. If it gets worse, try the second one in the pack. If that fails, reach out to Ringke and they should replace it for free.
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I haven't tried one on my N10+, but installed them on my Note 9 and my wife's S10+. Neither one had any issues with the edges lifting at all. I wish I had some tricks to offer, but I just followed the directions.
It's funny, when I installed my wife's Ringke on her S10+ I was showing her the difference between it and the Whitestone Dome tempered glass (which are the time was on my Note 9). I was showing her how glass was smoother than her Ringke protector, but to my surprise, my finger actually glided easier across her Ringke than my Whitestone! Now my Whitestone Dome on that phone was a few months old, so some of the oleophobic coating had probably worn off and her Ringke screen protector was brand new, but I was really shocked and just how smooth it was to the touch.
As far as the lifting edges, two thoughts. One, you didn't get it lined up perfectly so maybe something is a little off? A half millimeter either way could make it uneven. But I don't think thats the issue. Two, perhaps the edges of your phone weren't clean enough and had some residual oils? Or three, you just got a faulty screen protector. If it gets worse, try the second one in the pack. If that fails, reach out to Ringke and they should replace it for free.
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The lift is really very minor. Only the most OCD types will mind. Thanks for the rec. I agree how easy it's to glide your finger on it. Finger print also works better.
gordec said:
The lift is really very minor. Only the most OCD types will mind. Thanks for the rec. I agree how easy it's to glide your finger on it. Finger print also works better.
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I installed Whitestone on my N10+, but bought a pack of Ringke as a back up. Crack the Whitestone, I can install the Ringke while waiting on a replacement.
But, I think what I'll do is next paycheck, I'm going to order the AmFilm LOCA screen protector and run a little comparison.
I've used Whitestone for a month now and am pleased, but I do think it made the FP sensor less accurate But I'll remove it and install the Ringke and see how I like it, especially with the fingerprint sensor.
I'll use that for a couple weeks then install the AmFilm tempered glass one and compare it to the others.
It means a waste of $40, but in the name of inaccurate anecdotal science, why not? And if I decide I prefer Whitestone after all, it's just a $10 replacement under warranty to go back to it. I'll post my results in a thread here, maybe with some pictures.
Sorry, I know that had nothing to do with your lifting edges. Just thinking out loud. And by out loud, I mean in silence and just typing it.
The lifting edges of ringke, when I installed on my s10+, I found it best to work them down initially then just wait a while before trying again. I waited around 30 mins to 1hr after fitting it and found they stuck down easily.
I struggled with the 1st protector so discarded it but using the waiting method, the 2nd protector sides stayed down.
If you like the original screen protector you can get OEM quality screen protectors cheap on eBay. You want ones made out of PET which are harder like the OEM ones and not the soft TPU ones that you have to install wet and they dent way too easily. I install the PET ones wet though as you have time to move it around on the screen to get it aligned perfectly and you just push out the solution (I spray purple cleaner on the screen before I install) and any dust is removed when you push out the solution.
Just installed one myself that came from aliexpress. It turned out fine but was a bit disappointed that the glass is curvy on the edges like an s10 rather than being "boxy" so the edges are a bit exposed. Can't be bothered though to buy another one and go through the installation again as it took quite some time to get it done. Fingerprint is working fine, just press the fingerprint area while curing for the first time.
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If you like the original screen protector you can get OEM quality screen protectors cheap on eBay. You want ones made out of PET which are harder like the OEM ones and not the soft TPU ones that you have to install wet and they dent way too easily. I install the PET ones wet though as you have time to move it around on the screen to get it aligned perfectly and you just push out the solution (I spray purple cleaner on the screen before I install) and any dust is removed when you push out the solution.
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I thought using a wet solution would make the glue not stick anymore for the PET types. Also I was told by Samsung that the stock screen protector is applied with a UV light to cure. So it's like a tempered glass install but a thin plastic type?
fusiondynamics said:
I thought using a wet solution would make the glue not stick anymore for the PET types. Also I was told by Samsung that the stock screen protector is applied with a UV light to cure. So it's like a tempered glass install but a thin plastic type?
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The adhesive will stick fine on the protector even if you install it wet. I do it all the time.
what is the price this protector?
protector price,?
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The adhesive will stick fine on the protector even if you install it wet. I do it all the time.
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What do you use, just water or lightly soapy solution?