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wing is dead

my friends wing is RIP ..it wont cut on .it wont charge .nothing any ideas???

What did he do prior to it dying?
Dit he upgrade the rom? Drop it in water?
Please give some more details because it could be a whole lot of things wrong here.

ok .....no drop, no water, I installed the htc home plug-in ,along with some config tools and page pool 4mbs over clock at 247..the problem started with the memory card ,when he would restart the phone it would go into a type of lop and never fully start untill you took the memory card out, so I charged the phone ...put the card in ..tried to start and ........nahda it never opened its eyes again no matter what i do now it wont respond not even on the charger

ok i GOT IT one of the battery tabs was bent ...lol

residentEvil said:
ok i GOT IT one of the battery tabs was bent ...lol
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God! that was heart wrenching! good thing it's just some bent hardware problem..

hardwarre problem on wing

so i think my wing may be in the process of biting the big one. A few days ago, my wing restarted itself for no reason, i figured it was probably a system error and didnt think twice about it. Now all of a sudden my wing will constantly restart, sometimes in the middle of a call. Sometimes when it does restart the screen will either turn white or fade to white. I reinstalled the original rom to see if it was a software issue and it is still doing it. Also, it doesnt normally do it when it is just sitting there, and sometimes i cant turn it back on. Any ideas?

Make sure the battery isn't loose inside the case... and that all the prongs are making contact.

For the life of me, i cant figure it out. I know it has to have something to do with the phone not getting power. At this point, it wont even fully turn on. Short of taking it apart and checking the solder, does anyone have any ideas?

dcmtnbkr said:
For the life of me, i cant figure it out. I know it has to have something to do with the phone not getting power. At this point, it wont even fully turn on. Short of taking it apart and checking the solder, does anyone have any ideas?
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If you already reflashed the original rom, and it is still doing it, that tells you it is definitely a hardware issue. It does sound like it's losing power which could be a host of things. (loose battery, defective battery, loose solder on board, etc) I would try what duprade said, and check to make sure your battery has a good connection first. If you had a friend that had a wing as well, you could try his to make sure it's not the battery.

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If you already reflashed the original rom, and it is still doing it, that tells you it is definitely a hardware issue. It does sound like it's losing power which could be a host of things. (loose battery, defective battery, loose solder on board, etc) I would try what duprade said, and check to make sure your battery has a good connection first. If you had a friend that had a wing as well, you could try his to make sure it's not the battery.
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Brand new battery (free from tmo to replace the dynapack) Everything on the mainboard looks like it is soldered well. There is an internal watch batter though, could that have something to do with it?

dcmtnbkr said:
Brand new battery (free from tmo to replace the dynapack) Everything on the mainboard looks like it is soldered well. There is an internal watch batter though, could that have something to do with it?
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I doubt it. I would guess that's the cmos battery. If that were to go, then your phone wouldn't keep time, but that wouldn't stop your phone from functioning. (I used to work in the service center at a computer store).

maybe its the processor then. sometimes, after it freezes, it artifacts before shutting off

dcmtnbkr said:
maybe its the processor then. sometimes, after it freezes, it artifacts before shutting off
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There is the possibility of you overclocking your phone, and it heated up and could have burned or cracked some solder. It might even be overheating and that's why it reboots. At any rate, it def. sounds like hardware though. Sorry man. You could try to resolder the connections on the board just to make sure, but it sounds like you have a paperweight. Is it under warranty or do you have insurance?

only ever oc'd once, for a few minutes, and not very high (like 267 i think) It's on right now on the power cable (this wouldnt work yesterday) I honestly have no fricken clue whats going on with it.
Is it possible for the battery to completely diminish itself without being used for a day? Before it died on me last, it had a full battery, now it is showing 1% (and charging).
By the way, as I stated above, it is a brand new battery sent to me by tmo.

Dang it all! Stupid thing just shut off again... ARG!!!

dcmtnbkr said:
Dang it all! Stupid thing just shut off again... ARG!!!
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Hey dcmtnbkr. I seem to have the exact same problem with my Wing. It shuts off for no reason, and it does it absolutely randomly. Sometimes it would work for 3hrs straight no matter what i use it for. And other times it shuts off every 30sec. and it takes 3 to 10 tries to turn it back on(most of the times it would not get past the windows mobile welcome screen). I was gonna flash it with the newer Rom, but i'm afraid that the damn thing might shut off during flashing . So i'm stuck. If you find the way to fix it - please let me know.

actually, i just talked to tmo, and apparantly NOW after i told them I'm cancelling when my contract is up, now they can apparantly cover it under manufacturer warranty (as opposed to the last time i called about a week ago) I would call them even if you didnt buy it from them, tell them you dont remember where you bought it, but it was some company online. These phone's arent that old and you may still be under the manufacturers warranty. Also, i would try and flash it back to the original. These phones are very hard to brick, and i would ask around to see if a powerdown in the middle of an upgrade would do it. I just got mine to reflash without a problem.

my wing rstarts itself wen i jus tap the back of it where the battery cover is but it wont restart everytime. anyone have any ides?

Death HTC 8525

My 8525 does not turn on anymore, changed battery several times, let it under charge 2 days, no sign of life in there....should I trow it away or is there hope? Help please I am LOST without it!!!

Try chargin the phone without the battery for about 20 minutes and then insert the battery to see if it'll sprint to life. If not, try a differen outlet or charger. If all fails, don't throw it away, it's not that useless.

Thanks I trying that now,but I do not see any led turning on...keeping fingers crossed!

Were there any other symptoms before hand? Had you had it hooked up to your comp recently before that? Hard reset? Check how snug it meets the gold contacts. Ive seen situations where they get spaced just enough where it wont make contact. Check battery and contacts for buildup (happens over time. had this SAME heartattack awhile back with mine ) Lemme know if you need more help.

Black_Joker said:
Were there any other symptoms before hand? Had you had it hooked up to your comp recently before that? Hard reset? Check how snug it meets the gold contacts. Ive seen situations where they get spaced just enough where it wont make contact. Check battery and contacts for buildup (happens over time. had this SAME heartattack awhile back with mine ) Lemme know if you need more help.
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Hello Black Joker
what do you mean by "buildup"?
1Hard resetted a couple of days before (I am a ROMburner junky
2Turned itself out a couple of times before...
3When I do not use it I always keep it in the craddel hooked up with pc...
All I know is that I replaced the micro SD, put it down and when I pick it up 2minutes later it was death...
Now is under charge without battery...will report later...sig...

By buildup I am referring to this black looking stuff on the gold contacts. It happens over time. Another thing you might try is a different battery. Ive seen em on eBay for a few bucks or try a buddies battery if you know someone w a similar phone. If thats not an option some local cellphone store may have one u can try to see if she comes on. If all else fails, PM me. I would be more than happy to see what else I could do.

I did try everything but no way to wake "her" up...I have sento you a PM black-joker...

Its possible there may have been a surge that fried the internal fuse. That would account for it working then suddenly not with no LED response.
Check out Mike Channon's post for a link to his website, you'll find more info there...
Good luck...

Happy New Year to All..just came back...
Backy to my sorrow..could not find any solution jet!...

[Q] Dead HTC HD2 (Why? Don't know - explanation inside)

Hi
I was playing an android game, can't remember wich one, when suddenly my HTC HD2 turned unresponsive (bloqued), so I removed the battery and powered it on again. When I did this, the bootloader opened but it seemed bloqued too, no android message, no bootloader opening, anything... And once again, I turned it off and powered on but now without any response, completly dead (Only a small vibration, diferent to the one when it power on. [equal like the one previous to the boot one, I don't know how to explain])... No charge led, no bootloader, no tricolor, but without any flash or something similar (Like most posts I have read)
Anyone knows how to fix it?
My htc is a HTC HD7 T-Mobile with MAGLDR (last version) and android 4.0.4 completly working before this
Thank you!

You mean you have an HD2 with MAGLDR, WP on NAND and ICS on SD, right?
First thing to check is the battery pins, easily bent after a battery pull. Make sure they are straight and make contact with the battery. Second thing, are you sure the battery has enough juice? It could be just an unfortunately-timed run out of juice.
If above is all checked, was the phone running hot (like .. HOT) prior to the freezing?

Thanks
Marvlesz said:
You mean you have an HD2 with MAGLDR, WP on NAND and ICS on SD, right?
First thing to check is the battery pins, easily bent after a battery pull. Make sure they are straight and make contact with the battery. Second thing, are you sure the battery has enough juice? It could be just an unfortunately-timed run out of juice.
If above is all checked, was the phone running hot (like .. HOT) prior to the freezing?
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Thanks for your answer!
Not sure of the battery juice, I will try to charge it with a broken USB, directly with the cable or with another battery.
Pins seems to be OK, but I don't know. When the phone turned off I was only playing a 2D game ,for no more than five minutes, so I don't belive that it might be hot.

Some unsuccessful attempts
Okey, i tried to charge the battery with the usb but it does not work, so I tried to boot the phone using directly a 3.5 batery (similar to the 3.7 Output of the battery) and it does not work too... The mobile is completly unresponsive, the same vibration in the begining but nothing later..
Thank you!

whylly said:
Okey, i tried to charge the battery with the usb but it does not work, so I tried to boot the phone using directly a 3.5 batery (similar to the 3.7 Output of the battery) and it does not work too... The mobile is completly unresponsive, the same vibration in the begining but nothing later..
Thank you!
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Well, this is weird. ................. I recall seeing a similar problem somewhere around here, but I don't know if it was fixed or not. Even if it were, I don't know how we're supposed to look for it.
You can try some basic stuff like :
- Changing the battery *try to use an HD2 one*
- Try removing the battery, sim and sd card. Leave them out for a few units time and put in the battery back and try it again.
You can try your luck and search the hd2 (you can use the link in my sig) fora with potential keywords..
.. I can't think of anything else ... I'm sorry.

More of it sounds like BGA failure. Did your phone got hot while playing games?
Also what settings on CPU were set?(freq and voltage)

Marvlesz said:
Well, this is weird. ................. I recall seeing a similar problem somewhere around here, but I don't know if it was fixed or not. Even if it were, I don't know how we're supposed to look for it.
You can try some basic stuff like :
- Changing the battery *try to use an HD2 one*
- Try removing the battery, sim and sd card. Leave them out for a few units time and put in the battery back and try it again.
You can try your luck and search the hd2 (you can use the link in my sig) fora with potential keywords..
.. I can't think of anything else ... I'm sorry.
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Do not apologize, thank you, but I've already proved it and nothing ( I will try change battery)

retsam88 said:
More of it sounds like BGA failure. Did your phone got hot while playing games?
Also what settings on CPU were set?(freq and voltage)
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I thing 1GHZ maybe less but no more. And voltage the default one (I don't know which one)
Thank you!

retsam88 said:
More of it sounds like BGA failure. Did your phone got hot while playing games?
Also what settings on CPU were set?(freq and voltage)
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I have already asked him about that and he said "When the phone turned off I was only playing a 2D game ,for no more than five minutes, so I don't belive that it might be hot."
One more thing you can try, put the device in a sealed bag and put it in the freezer for about ten minutes. Then try to boot it up into bootloader (boot up while holding volume down). If it boots, then it's 99% the infamous overheating issue.
Report back.

Marvlesz said:
I have already asked him about that and he said "When the phone turned off I was only playing a 2D game ,for no more than five minutes, so I don't belive that it might be hot."
One more thing you can try, put the device in a sealed bag and put it in the freezer for about ten minutes. Then try to boot it up into bootloader (boot up while holding volume down). If it boots, then it's 99% the infamous overheating issue.
Report back.
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Okey I will try now and comment later! Thank you for your attention!

whylly said:
Okey I will try now and comment later! Thank you for your attention!
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Unfortunatedly it does not work too... If anyone else have any solution I will send it to SAT (worried about the price, the HTC was only 1 month old)
Thank you!

Marvlesz said:
One more thing you can try, put the device in a sealed bag and put it in the freezer for about ten minutes. Then try to boot it up into bootloader (boot up while holding volume down). If it boots, then it's 99% the infamous overheating issue.
Report back.
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Explain please, what's the purpose of putting your phone in the freezer.

retsam88 said:
Explain please, what's the purpose of putting your phone in the freezer.
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It is widely known that putting an HD2 with a faulty mainboard in a freezer for a few minutes will make it more likely to boot up (before it freezes or restarts again).
I don't know *why* this happens, I just know that it does. If you are not convinced, please do your own research

I do know how does BGA fail, and putting your phone in freezer WON'T do any good. It can only worsen the fate of phone, further damaging board or battery.
With all respect, don't give advice if you don't know what are you doing.
Anyway.
If you got warranty - RMA
If not, get infrared soldering station or look for one. Resoldering BGA(ball grid array-micro soldering points) on motherboard could help - CPU BGA tend to get loose sometimes. It's just the way it was designed.
Otherwise, if failed, replace mainboard.
That's it.

retsam88 said:
I do know how does BGA fail, and putting your phone in freezer WON'T do any good. It can only worsen the fate of phone, further damaging board or battery.
With all respect, don't give advice if you don't know what are you doing.
Anyway.
If you got warranty - RMA
If not, get infrared soldering station or look for one. Resoldering BGA(ball grid array-micro soldering points) on motherboard could help - CPU BGA tend to get loose sometimes. It's just the way it was designed.
Otherwise, if failed, replace mainboard.
That's it.
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How can you be so sure it is faulty BGA as to start saying use this and use that?
I did not say the freezer will fix the problem, I just said it will help us identify it!
And to reply to the "won't do any good", here are two examples OF MANY:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35436222&postcount=3113
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35430928&postcount=3112
@op An advice: don't do any of the IR soldering mentioned above or even open the device until you are certain it's the mainboard.

Marvlesz said:
How can you be so sure it is faulty BGA as to start saying use this and use that?
I did not say the freezer will fix the problem, I just said it will help us identify it!
And to reply to the "won't do any good", here are two examples OF MANY:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35436222&postcount=3113
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35430928&postcount=3112
@op An advice: don't do any of the IR soldering mentioned above or even open the device until you are certain it's the mainboard.
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First time it does not work, but I want to try it again
Thank you!

Marvlesz said:
How can you be so sure it is faulty BGA as to start saying use this and use that?
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Because that's the symptoms of faulty BGA. System stop. Different vibration pattern and bootloader lockout. If memory failed, it's on motherboard. If CPU failed it's also on motherboard.
Marvlesz said:
I did not say the freezer will fix the problem, I just said it will help us identify it!
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How in the world does freezing help identify motherboard fault? It's just nonsense.

Freezer trick can help identify BGA contact issues as the cooler temp contracts the CPU & can temporary cause the the solder points of the ball grid to contact and also keeps it cooler for longer sometimes allowing for longer run time or boot progress.
You are not freezing the device to -20 just simply quickly getting the device cool.
Done it myself to more than one hd2 & is a useful diagnostic prior to buying & swapping a mainboard or getting a current one reworked.

Okey, I tried again and nothing happened. I will call to HTC tomorrow and ask for a diagnostic (And price of repair...). I will coment it here as soon as I'll know something. Thank all of you for the help

hd7 ??
i thinks you wrong box this is HD2 General

Xiaomi mi 9t had his own LIFE .

Hello ,
Sorry for my english.
I have my Xiaomi mi9T for 3 months now.
The first 1.5month no problems, then the Xiaomi starterd to open en close apps by its own. Open the alarm clock and scrolling left and right etc.
Its like the phone has a mind of is own , IT does whatever its wants open and closing everything.
My phone is up-to-date . I reinstalled . I put IT back to factory settings . Nothing works .
Pls some help ?

I think your touchscreen is broken

Maggig said:
I think your touchscreen is broken
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That's weird because its not all day . And sometimes it happens not at all .

Bjornvs said:
That's weird because its not all day . And sometimes it happens not at all .
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Reset to factory settings. Do not install any apps. If it keeps happening, it's a faulty touchscreen that should be replaced.

robogo1982 said:
Reset to factory settings. Do not install any apps. If it keeps happening, it's a faulty touchscreen that should be replaced.
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Ok i Will try that . Thx

Bjornvs said:
Ok i Will try that . Thx
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Do you use original charger? if not, try to change your charger. could be electricity issue.

mutokenji said:
Do you use original charger? if not, try to change your charger. could be electricity issue.
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I use the original charger .

mutokenji said:
Do you use original charger? if not, try to change your charger. could be electricity issue.
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Wait, is it a bad thing if the touchscreen does random stuff only when you try to use it whilat charging on a different brick?
I use a Sony Xperia Z3 brick to charge the phone more slowly...
I remember it does adjust and then work flawlessly, but honestly I can't say this happens everytime with 100% confidence as I don't really use it while charging.
ONLY while charging, don't know about original brick.

Windroid-user said:
Wait, is it a bad thing if the touchscreen does random stuff only when you try to use it whilat charging on a different brick?
I use a Sony Xperia Z3 brick to charge the phone more slowly...
I remember it does adjust and then work flawlessly, but honestly I can't say this happens everytime with 100% confidence as I don't really use it while charging.
ONLY while charging, don't know about original brick.
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From my own expirience i can safely say, that while charging the touchscreen does react more slowly and it does some random stuff. I would say that it is some isue in device construction as when i tried to meassure voltage on devices metal frame i was able to measure around 600mV on it. I am always using original charger and the same thing was also happening on my previous Mi A1. Also if you are charging a phone and you rub your finger litly on its metal frame you can feel a small vibration (due to the voltage on it.)