Video exposure lock - Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers

Hey Everyone
I'm really trying to move away from iPhone and Filmic Pro, but at the same time I'm really struggling to find a handset that'll either run Filmic Pro or allow me to lock exposure in it's stock camera app. I've recently bought S8 and I've noticed that I can only lock exposure (tap and hold finger in one place) while taking photos but I can't do the same in videos. What's worse 3rd party apps are limited to [email protected] so I'm stuck with stock camera app for 4K. Is it even possible to lock exposure while recording video on S8/S8+ ? I'm running Nougat with November security update.

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Any good camera apps?

One of my biggest gripes with this phone is that they gave it this great camera but with no image stabilization. Has anyone come across any good camera apps? Preferably something that allows you to take a picture via the touch screen (like you can in 2.1 but not 2.2) or provides some image stabilization. I tried camera 360, which seems decent, but FC's a lot.
PS. I tried a thread search to see if this topic is around but due to the numerous threads on camera related issues pre-2.2 OTA leak, they're hard to find.
Thanks in advance for any help.
If you place your finger on the screen and hold it there, it will take the picture.
To be more precise it'll focus where you put the finger and take a picture.
The best camera app I've tried is Vignette. The "normal" processing for the app makes much better pictures than the default camera, and it's got some excellent effects as well. It also has a "steady shot" option where it waits until the camera is still before taking the shot. The demo is low-res but you can use it to see the basic results you'll get. The full version was worth it for me.
Tried a few apps and I do like some features of Vignette but will say the stock camera app does the best in my opinion with settings at (8mp fine bright -1 contrast +1) can hold on screen and it will auto focus then snap pic
here are some untouched samples of mine of just misc things the other day
http://picasaweb.google.com/dearls70/VignettePhotoAppPics?feat=directlink
and
http://picasaweb.google.com/dearls70/DroidIncrediblePics?feat=directlink

Camera2 api

It looks like we have full support of camera 2 api.
try snap camera from the store it have a option to enable..used the app if I was on aosp rom with the m8
Good to see
I forget where, but this was actually confirmed a looooooong time ago (well... long in tech time. Couple of weeks ago though).
I thought that since Samsung doesn't offer shutter speed control in pro mode that they didn't enable the full camera 2 api.
Dovigoldberger said:
It looks like we have full support of camera 2 api.
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Hi,
According to the person who wrote this article, it seems that the camera2 api is not fully supported at the moment :
http://spectrastudy.com/camera2-api-on-mwc-2015-devices/
The manual camera checks would then bit too enthusiastic if this is true.
Can anyone who has manual camera installed try to take a picture in RAW and post the DNG file here?
I couldn't find any S6 DNG file on the web; it would be great if someone could confirm whether it is really possible to shoot in RAW with the S6.
With a Nexus 5, the 3 following apps can shoot in RAW :
- a better camera (there is a free version with limited number of shots in case)
- camera fv-5 (paid app)
- manual camera (paid app)
Dovigoldberger said:
I thought that since Samsung doesn't offer shutter speed control in pro mode that they didn't enable the full camera 2 api.
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It does, but due to driver limitations, the longest shutter you can choose in Manual Camera app is 1/10. The longest shutter the S6 and edge is allowed to use (when ISO is manually set in the stock camera app) is 1/7. And when Manual Camera opens, WB is all green, so you need to long press WB to make it normal. There is now RAW support wither.
Right now the best camera SW for the S6 and edge is the stock, which is extremely fast to open, very quick to focus and snap, and offers a wide variety of options including manual settings, without shutter control. The latter is a pity, but without long exposures, you can just indirectly control it via ISO, either way, you are maxed out at 1/7. On the bright side... the lens is very bright, offering dramatically better lit details at the same SP and ISO than the S5, Note 4 or One M9, and it makes it a solid snapper indoors. Overall camera2 API is a mixed bag at it's current state and I hope full manual control comes soon with long shutter options.
Not sure this is because of camera 2 API or not, but you guys notice you can now separate auto focus from exposure point in pro mode? You can press and hold to lock the focus point, while shifting the exposure point to elsewhere on the screen. Makes it much better while shooting in situations where background and foreground are in vastly different exposure brackets.
http://spectrastudy.com/camera2-api-on-mwc-2015-devices/
"Manual camera" app doesn't work with S6
vincent2167 said:
Hi,
According to the person who wrote this article, it seems that the camera2 api is not fully supported at the moment :
... link ...
The manual camera checks would then bit too enthusiastic if this is true.
Can anyone who has manual camera installed try to take a picture in RAW and post the DNG file here?
I couldn't find any S6 DNG file on the web; it would be great if someone could confirm whether it is really possible to shoot in RAW with the S6.
With a Nexus 5, the 3 following apps can shoot in RAW :
- a better camera (there is a free version with limited number of shots in case)
- camera fv-5 (paid app)
- manual camera (paid app)
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I Installed "Manual camera" app (compatibility app said that it would work) but it doesn't work.
"Manual camera" interface appears, turns green and freezes, and phone either reboots or app
just shuts down. Camera gets a little warm too.
Was hoping to get DNG files from S6, but doesn't look good.
Very disappointed about this.
Uninstalled app and was refunded.
Thanks for the feedback!
I tried the Manual Camera app as well and it all appeared to be working for me, until I attempted to save a RAW image. This crashed my camera and required a full reboot to resolve.
Jason_V said:
I tried the Manual Camera app as well and it all appeared to be working for me, until I attempted to save a RAW image. This crashed my camera and required a full reboot to resolve.
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I don't think there's RAW support for any non-Nexus phone (maybe one of the Chinese ones, but not from the major OEMs).
Also, doesn't the shutter top out at 1/10 or 1/7?
Yeah when putting it into raw and gpeg you will get a crash we have to wait for Samsung to do an update . I have a feeling that the ois is the reason samsung cannot alow shutter speed variation as even dslr cameras don't use image stabilization when it's on long exposure and as ois cannot be switched of manually then this will be a problem .

Possible Camera2 API bug.

Hello, all!
This is a little specific, but I was hoping that perhaps other LG G6 users could help me test for this problem to figure out whether it's affecting all the phones/firmwares or is specific to mine.
Basically what happens is that in any camera app, except the native one, if you use specific manual settings (so, through the Camera2 API) there's a bug that changes the value on its own. Perhaps the easiest way to check it is using Open Camera:
1) Switch to video mode (camera choice does not matter).
2) Pick the exposure icon, set ISO to 50 and shutter speed to 1/20
3) Start recording video...
4) On my device after 5-10 seconds of recording the screen turns black (or nearly black) as the exposure speed drops to ~1/10000.
Touching the screen to refocus fixes it for a moment, then it jumps back to ~1/10000.
Basically ISO50, shutter range 1/20-1/30 will cause this. I have seen this in any app that allowed manual settings, like Open Camera, ProShot, Hedgecam 2, AZ Camera, Footej camera etc. Some of them turn black, others just crash/freeze. Sounds like an API bug to me.
I'm on Android version 8.0.0, Software version: V20c-EUR-XX installed through OTA.
Would really appreciate if someone could also try this.
My minimum shutter speed is 1/30... This with stock camera........ Stock oreo by OTA v20c.
No problem with recording.
vs0587 said:
My minimum shutter speed is 1/30... This with stock camera........ Stock oreo by OTA v20c.
No problem with recording.
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Thanks for taking the time to check, but the stock camera works ok. It's the others that have this problem. Like Open Camera or HedgeCam2. The reason I want to use those is they recently added an option to change image processing (noise reduction, edge enhancement) so if you turn those down and film video with them you actually get nice, natural looking video and not the overprocessed watercolor look that the stock camera (and most other apps) provide. And if we go for a "cinematic" 24fps look then the Shutter speed could often be 1/24 or so.
Since I have seen some threads looking for a way to get cleaner video I'll attach two snapshots from a video - one with stock camera (and those crazy cartoon edges) and another from HedgeCam 2.

Xiaomi mi 9t and zhiyun smooth 4 compatibility

Hi all,
Recently I bought a zhiyun smooth 4 gimbal and that the app of the gimbal does not have permission to use all the lenses. The gimbal is compatible with Filmic Pro, but neither this app can use other lenses than the main one. It is possible to let third party apps use all the lenses of the phone?
Another possibility is to use the gimbal with MIUI camera app. Somebody knows if it is possible to use the buttons on the gimbal with the MIUI camera app? I tried to connect the gimbal manually via Bluetooth but with no luck.
i think the problem is the camera API. i posted this tread a while ago:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/help/fix-camera2-api-to-cameras-camera-apps-t4078935
about the same problem, third party camera apps only see main camera, no wide or tele. because the phone tell the apps it has only one back camera.
only "special" apps circumvent this limitations, like the stock camera app or gcam
maybe a custom rom can shows all cameras properly.
malowz said:
i think the problem is the camera API. i posted this tread a while ago:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/help/fix-camera2-api-to-cameras-camera-apps-t4078935
about the same problem, third party camera apps only see main camera, no wide or tele. because the phone tell the apps it has only one back camera.
only "special" apps circumvent this limitations, like the stock camera app or gcam
maybe a custom rom can shows all cameras properly.
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Thank you for your reply. Maybe I will try a custom rom later. But for now I observed that with Filmic Pro the recorded videos are noisy with 24 fps (with higher fps is even worse) than that I observed with the stock camera app. This happens mostly inside where the lighting conditions are not perfect, but still I don't understand from where comes the difference.
Because of this issue, now I'm more interested in using the gimbal with the sock camera app. Even if I can use just the record button on the gimbal is better than to have noisy videos and pictures. But for the moment I could not find anything regarding this.

Alternatives to GCamera & Open Camera for S8 Exynos (SM-G950FD) Running LineageOS 18.1 ?

Yesterday I finally tried LineageOS 18.1, within 20 minutes I had it running on my Samsung Galaxy S8 ! It was the easiest, the fastest, and I can't stress how much I love it being so lightweight compared to my S8 pre-LineageOS. I can also see within a day, my battery is not dropping as much.
After playing it for a while, I realize the included camera app is not as great as the one from Samsung. Even my middle-range Samsung A50s phone's camera looks better than my S8 now. I tried to install several Google Camera Ports from this website for Samsung Galaxy S8 Exynos (SM-G950FD). List of GCamera Ports that I tried :
From Arnova8G2 (the most updated mod, tried both Version 7 and Version 6).
Original version 7 would work, but opening the camera took me 3-4 seconds. Changing between mode also took 3-4 seconds and both Portrait and NightVision Mode didn't work, there's no HDR options, and picture couldn't be stored as well.
Using .xml file provided, both Portrait & Nightvision mode still didn't work, I couldn't get 16:9 resolution as well, but I could at least store a picture and there's HDR options.
From burial (last update was from 2020), even with .xml settings provided, app keeps crashing.
From IDan (last update was from 2019), GCamera wouldn't even open.
I also tried to use Open Camera, however the quality was just as bad. And for some reasons, HDR wouldn't work. Instead of storing a single HDR image, it would store 3 different images with different exposures, but not combined into one HDR image.
If anything, the reason I bought my S8 primarily was because its camera quality. I feel like the OS is now perfect for my phone, I just need to find a nice, working camera app. Any camera app suggestions ?

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