Why did Amazon compile for 32-bit instead of 64-bit? - Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a Amazon Fire HD 8 2016 Tablet; after trying to install the Dolphin Emulator which requires a 64-bit OS I found out this tablet was running a 32-bit OS. Does anyone have an idea of why Amazon might have gone for a 32-bit instead of a 64-bit OS? My research seems to show that the underlying hardware supports a 64-bit OS.

ShapeShifter499 said:
I have a Amazon Fire HD 8 2016 Tablet; after trying to install the Dolphin Emulator which requires a 64-bit OS I found out this tablet was running a 32-bit OS. Does anyone have an idea of why Amazon might have gone for a 32-bit instead of a 64-bit OS? My research seems to show that the underlying hardware supports a 64-bit OS.
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It's actually a weirdly compiled 64 bit version, which has 32 bit as properties in build.prop (armv7 vs arm64, or something like that). Kingoroot installs 64 bit 'su', then SuperSu does 32 bit version. The whole thing is a bit of a mess. I was posting some of the posts discussing this in FlashFire thread, and also SuperSu threads. If you try to search for them, you'll find some details.

ShapeShifter499 said:
I have a Amazon Fire HD 8 2016 Tablet; after trying to install the Dolphin Emulator which requires a 64-bit OS I found out this tablet was running a 32-bit OS. Does anyone have an idea of why Amazon might have gone for a 32-bit instead of a 64-bit OS? My research seems to show that the underlying hardware supports a 64-bit OS.
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Strangely enough, this tablet 'can' run 64-bit native libraries.

bibikalka said:
It's actually a weirdly compiled 64 bit version, which has 32 bit as properties in build.prop (armv7 vs arm64, or something like that). Kingoroot installs 64 bit 'su', then SuperSu does 32 bit version. The whole thing is a bit of a mess. I was posting some of the posts discussing this in FlashFire thread, and also SuperSu threads. If you try to search for them, you'll find some details.
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Do you think it'd be possible to force an install of a 64-bit only application?

@Supersonic27543 Same question I just posted goes to you to.

That one app I wanted to install, dolphin emulator. I get this if I try to install using ADB
Code:
[[email protected] ~]$ cd Desktop/
[[email protected] Desktop]$ adb install '/home/raansu/Desktop/dolphin-master-5.0-6374.apk'
/home/raansu/Desktop/dolphin-master-5....d. 6.1 MB/s (15569990 bytes in 2.434s)
pkg: /data/local/tmp/dolphin-master-5.0-6374.apk
Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_NO_MATCHING_ABIS]
[[email protected] Desktop]$

ShapeShifter499 said:
That one app I wanted to install, dolphin emulator. I get this if I try to install using ADB
Code:
[[email protected] ~]$ cd Desktop/
[[email protected] Desktop]$ adb install '/home/raansu/Desktop/dolphin-master-5.0-6374.apk'
/home/raansu/Desktop/dolphin-master-5....d. 6.1 MB/s (15569990 bytes in 2.434s)
pkg: /data/local/tmp/dolphin-master-5.0-6374.apk
Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_NO_MATCHING_ABIS]
[[email protected]Y40-80 Desktop]$
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If you are so eager, set the following in build.prop:
Code:
ro.product.cpu.abilist64=arm64-v8a
Right now abilist64 is empty.
Reboot. If it bootloops, sideload stock Amazon bin, and re-root. If it works, try to install you apk again.
Report back.

bibikalka said:
If you are so eager, set the following in build.prop:
Code:
ro.product.cpu.abilist64=arm64-v8a
Right now abilist64 is empty.
Reboot. If it bootloops, sideload stock Amazon bin, and re-root. If it works, try to install you apk again.
Report back.
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I have a Amazon HD 8 6 Gen (I brought it Black Friday 2016) Root doesn't exist for this device after 5.3.2.1 as far as I know. Am I wrong? I already made the jump to 5.6.0.1

Works in Fire 10 HD, Ask Amazon!
ShapeShifter499 said:
I have a Amazon HD 8 6 Gen (I brought it Black Friday 2016) Root doesn't exist for this device after 5.3.2.1 as far as I know. Am I wrong? I already made the jump to 5.6.0.1
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I have a Fire 10 HD Tablet, And it Works, But Fire 8 Tablet, Ask Amazon!!!

askmeanything said:
Works in Fire 10 HD, Ask Amazon!
I have a Fire 10 HD Tablet, And it Works, But Fire 8 Tablet, Ask Amazon!!!
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so that code line for the prop.build works on fire 10 2018 8th gen?
what about 9th gen 2019 of the fire hd 10?
is there another workaround to install 64bit apps?

Amazon has just compiled a 32-bit version of Android that isn't enough memory to run a 64-bit version of Android. Some 32-bit only apps being dropped in 2021 and aren't compatible with Fire tablets.

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Amazon Kindle USB Drivers Windows 8

So for my very first post here on XDA, I though I'd contribute. I would have posted this in the developer forum or even as a reply to Kindle Fire Utility thread, but I got the standard "you're a noob" and can't post here message.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399889
Kindle Fire Utility tries to install its own drivers, but I got an interesting message claiming
"The current language is not supported by the device driver installation wizard"
And manually trying to install the driver through the hardware resource manager will tell you that either the driver file is corrupt and can not be installed or that the driver file is not designed for the device... ie... It's basically useless.
The solution was to install obtain adt-bundle-windows-x86x_64-20130219 which I either got from Amazon's developers page or Google Android's developers page. To be honest, I was trying to obtain so much information about my Amazon Kindle Fire (1st Generation) and how to unlock it, from so many places that I'm not 100% sure from which source I got the correct driver.
What I am sure about is the driver provided by Kindle Fire Utility didn't work for me. And I don't expect Amazon or Google to make it easy for people to root their devices. It seems as soon as people find away to do so.... These companies patch it up quickly.
So allow me to share with you the drivers that did allow me to install this on Windows 8 Pro 64bit (I do include the 32 bit drivers as well).
In my case I was trying to "reset" an Amazon Kindle Demonstration Model. This is not to be confused with a Kindle in demo mode, but rather a demonstration unit which came with only a locked down version of Amazon's Rom. One which has not settings option or wifi option... ie... Clicking on either will tell you that you have a demonstration unit and there are no settings to play with.
I purchased mine on eBay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/290870029962
You want to first install the Amazon Driver, then the USB Driver (in that order).
DRIVERS = http://www.sociallyuncensored.eu/_files_/amazon-usb-drivers.zip
From there I ran the tool and selected "Install Permanent Root with Superuser".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399889
Once that was done I simply booted from the boot menu into the root and wiped all. This basically formated my kindle. Mounted the kindle and uploaded the update.zip file which you obtain from option 6, then 7. Proceeded to have it install. Upon rebooting my Kindle I had a fully functional Amazon Kindle Fire (1st Generation).
Not bad for my 1st post, eh?
Thank you very much OP!
I was really having a hard time to install the drivers on a Windows 8 Pro 64bit PC and your driver worked beautifully!
As you have mentioned KFU drivers won't install on Win 8 64. I wasn't even getting the language error, it was just refusing to install the drivers.
Thanks again!!!
I had 1 person contact me on my site, where the drivers are hosted (SociallyUncensored.eu) and claimed that
"its best to use the drivers that come with the utility"
I would personally disagree as those never worked for me, even when following this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2179748
The closest I got it to working using that guide, with those original drives from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399889
Told me that it had no hardware id (code 10). I think I got another error as well, but I don't recall what it was.....
But if you're one of those people who "really" want to work at it.... I guess you could try the guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2179748
The drivers I posted seem to work better.
Thanks for your contribution. Keep it up.
Btw- may want to add [Guide] or [How to] in title
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIV using Tapatalk 3
Thank you for the crystal-clear instructions! They helped me installing my KF on my girlfrend's notebook.
Thanks for this, I could do with the Windows 8 drivers for the same reason as you, to root a demo unit.
Can you check the zip file again though please? I'm getting that it is corrupt (tried with WinRAR and Windows Explorer):
"! E:\Downloads\JDownloader\amazon-usb-drivers.zip: CRC failed in amazon-usb-drivers\amazon\kindle_fire_usb_driver\KindleDrivers.exe. The file is corrupt"
Same issue
JFenlon said:
Thanks for this, I could do with the Windows 8 drivers for the same reason as you, to root a demo unit.
Can you check the zip file again though please? I'm getting that it is corrupt (tried with WinRAR and Windows Explorer):
"! E:\Downloads\JDownloader\amazon-usb-drivers.zip: CRC failed in amazon-usb-drivers\amazon\kindle_fire_usb_driver\KindleDrivers.exe. The file is corrupt"
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I am getting the same issue. I used a few different zip managers, and all say that file is corrupted.
How exactly do you install the various drivers?
Aidoboy said:
How exactly do you install the various drivers?
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With a computer.
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asf58967 said:
With a computer.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SV using Tapatalk 3
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That's VERY helpful.
How do you install the drivers on the computer?
Sorry was being jokingly. I personally plugged it in, it asked me for driver location, and I directed it to the unzipped folder...
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SV using Tapatalk 3
7zip is your friend
I got a few people telling me that the file is corrupt.
It's not. I've downloaded it and extracted this 3x (on different computers too). I had to format once and forgot to backup this and so my only source was the download.
Install 7zip - 7-zip.org
Download again.
Problem solved.
If its still corrupt, contact your ISP (internet service provider) or check your hardware... You're getting a poor download because your connection sucks. And that's outside my scope (willingness) to help.
Aidoboy said:
That's VERY helpful.
How do you install the drivers on the computer?
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My reply will not be as helpful....
If you don't know how to install drivers either using an install program or manually using the inf files .... Rooting a Kindle is not the first thing on your "to do list". Learn how to use drivers, before rooting devices.
I'm not trolling you and not trying not to be helpful, because you're trying to "fly" before you can even "crawl"
lmgtfy.com/?q=how+do+you+install+drivers
Everybody says they cannot install their drivers on Windows 8. I'm running Windows 8 Pro 64 bit and KFU installs the drivers just as it should after disabling driver signature enforcement. All I did to install mine was disable driver signature enforcement then reboot and run the install_drivers.bat and it successfully installed.
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awidawad said:
Everybody says they cannot install their drivers on Windows 8. I'm running Windows 8 Pro 64 bit and KFU installs the drivers just as it should after disabling driver signature enforcement. All I did to install mine was disable driver signature enforcement then reboot and run the install_drivers.bat and it successfully installed.
Sent from my One V using xda app-developers app
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i managed to use this get the drivers working without disabling that. was able to just download and install the drivers. thats it. not hard
awidawad said:
Everybody says they cannot install their drivers on Windows 8. I'm running Windows 8 Pro 64 bit and KFU installs the drivers just as it should after disabling driver signature enforcement. All I did to install mine was disable driver signature enforcement then reboot and run the install_drivers.bat and it successfully installed. Sent from my One V using xda app-developers app
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Lucky you. Could it be related to the pro edition? Or perhaps the kfu 9.9? I tried a couple of months ago, and I had trouble. (win8, kfu eirlier version)
BrooklynNY said:
Lucky you. Could it be related to the pro edition? Or perhaps the kfu 9.9? I tried a couple of months ago, and I had trouble. (win8, kfu eirlier version)
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It has to do with disabling enforcement
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SV using Tapatalk 3
asf58967 said:
It has to do with disabling enforcement
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SV using Tapatalk 3
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I took care of that first thing, and then had other obstacles.
awidawad said:
Everybody says they cannot install their drivers on Windows 8. I'm running Windows 8 Pro 64 bit and KFU installs the drivers just as it should after disabling driver signature enforcement. All I did to install mine was disable driver signature enforcement then reboot and run the install_drivers.bat and it successfully installed.
Sent from my One V using xda app-developers app
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+1 to this, it did take a while until figured it out but after disabled it worked like a charm.
What needs to be done on windows 8 is do an advanced restart to disable driver signature enforcement
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire using Tapatalk HD
Windows 8 and Amazon Drivers
Socially Uncensored said:
So for my very first post here on XDA, I though I'd contribute. I would have posted this in the developer forum or even as a reply to Kindle Fire Utility thread, but I got the standard "you're a noob" and can't post here message.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399889
Kindle Fire Utility tries to install its own drivers, but I got an interesting message claiming
"The current language is not supported by the device driver installation wizard"
And manually trying to install the driver through the hardware resource manager will tell you that either the driver file is corrupt and can not be installed or that the driver file is not designed for the device... ie... It's basically useless.
The solution was to install obtain adt-bundle-windows-x86x_64-20130219 which I either got from Amazon's developers page or Google Android's developers page. To be honest, I was trying to obtain so much information about my Amazon Kindle Fire (1st Generation) and how to unlock it, from so many places that I'm not 100% sure from which source I got the correct driver.
What I am sure about is the driver provided by Kindle Fire Utility didn't work for me. And I don't expect Amazon or Google to make it easy for people to root their devices. It seems as soon as people find away to do so.... These companies patch it up quickly.
So allow me to share with you the drivers that did allow me to install this on Windows 8 Pro 64bit (I do include the 32 bit drivers as well).
In my case I was trying to "reset" an Amazon Kindle Demonstration Model. This is not to be confused with a Kindle in demo mode, but rather a demonstration unit which came with only a locked down version of Amazon's Rom. One which has not settings option or wifi option... ie... Clicking on either will tell you that you have a demonstration unit and there are no settings to play with.
I purchased mine on eBay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/290870029962
You want to first install the Amazon Driver, then the USB Driver (in that order).
DRIVERS = http://www.sociallyuncensored.eu/_files_/amazon-usb-drivers.zip
From there I ran the tool and selected "Install Permanent Root with Superuser".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399889
Once that was done I simply booted from the boot menu into the root and wiped all. This basically formated my kindle. Mounted the kindle and uploaded the update.zip file which you obtain from option 6, then 7. Proceeded to have it install. Upon rebooting my Kindle I had a fully functional Amazon Kindle Fire (1st Generation).
Not bad for my 1st post, eh?
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The link do download the Amazon driver and USB drivers is no longer active. Can you provide them? I am also trying to rood a Demo Kindle Fire 1stG and having problems.

[Solution] for * cannot read 'firmware.zip' * via adb sideload (windows os)

i am sorry, i forgot the link in xda that gave me solution
but i remember where exactly it is
just follow this link:
"www*techpowerup*com/forums/threads/large-address-aware.112556/"
it works for me in core i3 with 4gb ram.
Just make sure you use 64-bit version of ADB when you are in 64bit OS.
I got mine worked after changing adb to 64bit version.
nicknacknuke said:
Just make sure you use 64-bit version of ADB when you are in 64bit OS.
I got mine worked after changing adb to 64bit version.
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Cannot find a way to change to 64 bit , can you tell me how to do so??
nick1908 said:
Cannot find a way to change to 64 bit , can you tell me how to do so??
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It's been a while since i log in here.. kinda forgot..
But try this : http://adbdriver.com/documentation/how-to-install-adb-driver-on-windows-8-10-x64.html
Download the latest ADB and fastboot binaries directly from Google. It sounds like you may be using an old version that couldn't handle large files.
https://dl.google.com/android/repository/platform-tools-latest-windows.zip
https://dl.google.com/android/repository/platform-tools-latest-linux.zip
https://dl.google.com/android/repository/platform-tools-latest-darwin.zip

Phoenix OS v2.5.9 Released

Update Detail
- Optimization game helper compass problem.
- Support 8723BU to connect wifi
- Update browser. Now stardust browser remove chromium kernel.
- Stardust browser can watch live video now.
Link: http://bbs.phoenixstudio.org/en/showthread.php?tid=10008
Revert
Reverted back to version 2.5.8 on my Acer Aspire R3-131T-C4TH. <--Luckily I had a recent BackUp.
The system was very very slow. <-- Even the fade-in on the bootanimation took like 5 seconds.
Keep up the good work.
there is a non-root version? Tks
unable to update play services. anyone?
bbmadzky said:
unable to update play services. anyone?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/ph...release-phoenixos-android-pc-toolbox-t3748153
Use this tool.. You can easily update google play service to latest version.. All gapps functions are working well on PhoenixOS..
Can anybody help? When i boot from USB with PhoenixOS 2.5.9 created with Rufus i see only grub2 command line and no another interface. I tried both GPT and MBR modes for creating boot-USB drive. What I should do to install OS? Maybe I should type something into this command line?
re-install?
Sillor said:
Can anybody help? When i boot from USB with PhoenixOS 2.5.9 created with Rufus i see only grub2 command line and no another interface. I tried both GPT and MBR modes for creating boot-USB drive. What I should do to install OS? Maybe I should type something into this command line?
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format your USB NTFS. Use Link: http://bbs.phoenixstudio.org/en/show....php?tid=10008. (Thanks REGNAS) to get Phoenix installer (latest). Install from desktop onto USB. Good luck.
I can't record screen on Phoenix OS V1.5.0. Every app crashes after starting to record. Please help me?
WoltreX said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ph...release-phoenixos-android-pc-toolbox-t3748153
Use this tool.. You can easily update google play service to latest version.. All gapps functions are working well on PhoenixOS..
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I find it difficult to use as I am using single boot.
On my tablet PC the orientation is inverted.. landscape is portrait and portrait is landscape..
how to root it ? becase alt+f1 or alt+fn+f1 doesn't calling terminal
hello i'm having some problems after installing phoenix os.
when it has finished installing phoenix os and at the time of its installation os [when choosing the language for phenixnya] then my laptop suddenly restar itself, and I think I have to install phoenix os correctly, is there any way?
32 bit version
Is there any hope for the 32 bit version?
magisk fix root
sierrabravo said:
there is a non-root version? Tks
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i have rooted 32bit 64bit 2.0 to 2.5.9 successfully with magisk
How to install Phoenix OS 2.5.9 64 bit?
I want to install Phoenix OS 2.5.9 on an 5 year old Laptop (Acer Aspire 5733z) currently running Window 10 32bit.
My laptop has 64 bit processor Intel pentium p6200 and 2 GB ram.
My laptop can support and run phoenix os 64 bit version. But I have to install it from ISO file because 64 bit version has a x64 installer which my window don't support.
For safety of my files, i installed Phoenix os 64 bit from iso with window 10 in oracle virtual box. It installed and worked perfectually.(testing in oracle virtual box happened on another computer)
But now there is no option to boot window 10 in GRUB bootloader only Phoenix os.
Can someone help me please?
Thanks in advance!
Is there any hope for the 32 bit version?
druhboruch1 said:
Is there any hope for the 32 bit version?
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No . Day to Day mobile OS are getting heavier too . Processors with 32 bit architecture can't handle that much load.
So , i think 32 bit version of phoenix os will now stick at old 1.5.0 lolipop version.
funkdubbies said:
how to root it ? becase alt+f1 or alt+fn+f1 doesn't calling terminal
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Try Ctrl+Alt+F1. It worked for some users that had the same issue as you
Someone can Help me with a connection problem?
after the installation the internet was working, but after reboot, the internet stopped working, even configuring an static ip.
I'm using a desktop with wired cable and I don't have wireless network card
1.5.0 x86 Phoenix OS
Sorry for my bad english and sorry for posting here.

Is there a good method of obtaining root on the FireHD8 7th gen on WIndows?

I've been looking all over and all the tutorials are on linux.
Make a live disk for linux. You don't have to install linux. Just boot from a usb to linux. I haven't seen any other method besides using mtk-su if you havent updated...
Amazon Fire HD 8 2017 -- up to Fire OS 5.6.4.0 build 636558520 only
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/amazing-temp-root-mediatek-armv8-t3922213
But this is only a temp root.

Fire OS on echo show

I read in another thread that someone got to use adb sideload but it only accepts zips signed by Amazon. Can you install fire OS that is meant for the fire tablets?

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