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How To Download CE 6 OS design

Hi
I want to transfer my own windows ce 6.0 os design to a htc prophet ?
Is it possible?
I found a nk.bin file in os release dir. is it the same as nk.nbf or it needs something to be added to it like ipl/spl?

No.
Let me just verify that I understand you correctly:
You have Platform Builder for Windows CE (not Mobile) 6 and you compiled and OS.
Now you want to put it on your Prophet?
Here is why this can not work:
a) You do not have the hardware drivers. Even if by some miracle you got the Prophet BSP (board support package) from HTC, because CE 6 architecture is so different from CE 5 on which the BSP is based you would have to rewrite them.
b) The nk.bin Platform Builder produces is in plain binary format. The nk.nbf which the Prophet bootloader can recognize is in HTC's special encrypted format so the bootloader will not read the bin.

Yes. You get it right. I know if I want to use phone features completely I need BSP. But what if I want just use some standard features? just LCD and phone features.
Also I saw nbftool that decrypt and encrypt nbf files. Can I use it to encrypt files for prophet?

You need BSP for everything, not just "full features". Every little bit of hardware that connects to the CPU requires a driver unique for your device, that includes the screen, the digitizer (touch screen), hardware keys, USB port, SD card, etc.
This is why the Linux project for these devices hasn't moved beyond booting the kernel.
There are tons of work to be done (not to say it is impossible).
I am not sure about the nbftool but even if you manage to create an image that boots best case scenario is you will see something on the screen.
But you will have no way of controlling the device - no touch screen or keys, and no way to connect to it from windows since you do not have USB drivers.

Then what are the BSPs which exist in Wince by default. There is a ARMv4. How can I use it? Can you help me?

There is ARMv4 and there is Samsung, TI, Xscale, etc. Unlike x86 - all are different. Different memory map, different GPIO, different periferials.
Better waste your time on something else. Anyway CE 6 does not have phone features at all. Compile it for your PC and see that yourself.

mamaich said:
There is ARMv4 and there is Samsung, TI, Xscale, etc. Unlike x86 - all are different. Different memory map, different GPIO, different periferials.
Better waste your time on something else. Anyway CE 6 does not have phone features at all. Compile it for your PC and see that yourself.
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I think ARMv4 BSP in Platform Builder already have enough driver for this type of CPUs. And HTC phones are ARMv4. So normaly I should be able to build and transfer my OS to there. CE 6 have buitin drivers for modem,LCD and so on. But there is no phone. Because phone is an app that runs on CE. So if I just want to use devices like modem It is enough. The problem is nbf files ae encrypted and os.bin file should encrypt to os.nb and then transfer to device.

shariat said:
I think ARMv4 BSP in Platform Builder already have enough driver for this type of CPUs. And HTC phones are ARMv4. So normaly I should be able to build and transfer my OS to there. CE 6 have buitin drivers for modem,LCD and so on. But there is no phone. Because phone is an app that runs on CE. So if I just want to use devices like modem It is enough. The problem is nbf files ae encrypted and os.bin file should encrypt to os.nb and then transfer to device.
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you dont really understand the problem.
ARMv4 is not a cpu, it is the ARM version 4 instruction set ....
afaik your phone has some kind of OMAP.
i don't know if CE6 has a BSP for that, but even if it does, it will still not work without modifications.
a recent example. a friend of mine wanted to download a generix xscale 25x eboot (bootloader) to a device that had xscale 255. he almost killed the whole device because the RAM memory map of this generic eboot managed to overlap with the device's original bootloader memory space in ROM. (the virtual memory mapping differed in such an unlucky way.) and so the device's own bootloader thought it had to flash it in instead of loading it into RAM and it overwrote part of itself. luckily only the splashscreen got damaged...
(and of course the device would not boot this eboot.)
that's what happens when someone who has not ever dealt with hardware and memory mappings (i.e. you) tries to play with platform builder and flashing.
also, what is this about CE6 having built in drivers for the modem (you mean GPRS?) and LCD. it doesn't have the correct ones for your device.
and, the phone is more than just an app, it also needs drivers. the modem needs it too.
all in all...i strongly discourage you trying to flash that nk.bin.
it is not even in a format that your bootloader will understand, it is MS BIN format. the nk.nb0 in same release dir (or if there is none then cvrtbin will convert it) will be the raw format that needs to be encoded for nbf, but that is far from enough because it will never boot anyway. so forget this info.

cmonex said:
you dont really understand the problem.
ARMv4 is not a cpu, it is the ARM version 4 instruction set ....
afaik your phone has some kind of OMAP.
i don't know if CE6 has a BSP for that, but even if it does, it will still not work without modifications.
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But at least the way of using loader is possible. Like how Linux is loaded

shariat said:
But at least the way of using loader is possible. Like how Linux is loaded
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loader, for what purpose?

cmonex said:
loader, for what purpose?
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For running WinCE , like Linux. Am i right? Linux devs uses Loader to load Linux on Mobile devices. I think I am confused. Help me on this. My purpose is to use my own OS design.

shariat said:
For running WinCE , like Linux. Am i right? Linux devs uses Loader to load Linux on Mobile devices. I think I am confused. Help me on this. My purpose is to use my own OS design.
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well, for linux, the drivers have to be written too. (most of the time there are existing ones with source available that can be modified, though.)
so it is more complicated than that.

shariat: writing your own OS for this hardware is not impossible, but is not easy.
I suggest you go away for a while and get hold of platform builder and an arm reference guide and read everything you can about the device, the memory structure, your dedicated hardware structure, and then start writing.
Knowing how the hardware and CPU operate is fundamental to the OS you will write. Platform Builder will give you some source code access and help give you some ideas.
This is a nearly impossible task for a hobbyist coder. I'm sure people will help you, but you need to discuss what you have in mind.
Have a look here for some other easier ideas:
http://simpleos.iroot.ca/index.php
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Changing OS identification?

Is there a way to change the windows nt into windows 7?
I mean, when you try to install anything that requires a specific OS name, it wont install on Windows 8 because its names Windows NT.
So question is, is there a way to turn Windows NT into Windows 7? like by regedit?

I was having the same problem with Motorola Drivers not being valid and/or Windows8 not being recognized as a valid os? So I had go back and reinstall Windows 7???
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use compatability mode, right click the .exe file and click "Troubleshoot Compatability" then click "Troubleshoot" then "This program worked in earlier versions of Windows" then select Windows 7

I had to browse the temporary files folder while the Motorola Driver installer was open so I could pull the files out and run the Installer in Compatibility mode, other than that, it worked fine.

They are all Windows NT, its the version that differs, drivers are dead easy to change, software is harder, if compatibility mode doesn't fix it then you could hope that there are some ini files you can edit but that's unlikely nowadays.
Drivers just need a entry in the INF that says its a supported OS then further down the INF add a new entry pointing that new OS version to the same files as Win 7. With out an example its kind of hard to show you and it can vary between drivers but its easy enough.
whether it works or not is a different matter, a new OS version may have changed things the driver needs so caution is always recommended

[Q] How do I go back to windows7?

I upgraded my asus laptop to windows 8, and the d drive that had a stock backup of windows 7 got wiped somewhow..... so I really want to go back to windows7. I dont have a disc but i do have the windows 7 product key on my laptop... I cant dual boot, i cant connect phones to qpst... my work for school cant be done on windows 8..... I NEED windows 7 back... how can i do this?

A) Given that Win8 is compatible with all software and damn near all drivers that Win7 was (a few legacy driver models, like the ability to use XP video drivers, were deprecated), I doubt you actually can't use Win8 instead.*
B) You need Windows installation media to install Windows. I would hope this would be self-explanatory. It usually comes on a DVD (in a "box", or with your PC) or in a DVD image (giant .ISO file). However, your PC may have a "recovery volume" (a reserved chunk of the hard drive) containing the install image.
* You may need to do one or both of the following to get legacy software to work:
1) Enable the legacy .NET framework versions. Start -> type "features" -> look under Settings -> Turn Windows features on or off -> .NET Framework 3.5.
1.1) If you need .NET 1.1, you'll have to download and install that separately, I think, although at this point that version is like 10 years old.
2) Run programs in Compatibility Mode. For programs designed to run under XP, this includes running them as Admin. Right-click the program (in Windows Explorer; you can get there by right-clicking the tile in Start and selecting Open File Location), go to Properties -> Compatibility. Choose the compatibility option(s) most suitable to your needs.

.net frameworks checked....
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If it's a driver issue you're having, which it most likely is because most driver install tools aren't ready for Win8 yet, you'll need to extract the relevant driver from the executable (or find one extracted online somewhere) and install it using the windows device manager.
If you can't find a solution to the problem, burn the relevant Win7 ISO file to your license key, and reinstall Windows 7 from that until devices become more compatible.

Kyoraki said:
If it's a driver issue you're having, which it most likely is because most driver install tools aren't ready for Win8 yet, you'll need to extract the relevant driver from the executable (or find one extracted online somewhere) and install it using the windows device manager.
If you can't find a solution to the problem, burn the relevant Win7 ISO file to your license key, and reinstall Windows 7 from that until devices become more compatible.
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Thats the route im going...
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Then im going to try to partition hdd so i can also install an ubuntu iso
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Could be he's. Used to win 7 ,doesn't want to relearn 8 doesnt want to re install drivers and still nothing works, I'm not harping against 8. ,just think its really not. A desktop OS,works great as a phone and a tablet,useless as a desktop
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I got everything situated... Windows 8 is just better with a touch screen and i miss my windows 7 themes and stuff. Now only way to boot windows is thru bios boot override... Or else grub only lets me boot ubuntu.... A little annoying but tolerable
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You can download one of these upgrade isos from Digital River/Microsoft and then install using your key. Make sure you download the appropriate version Pro, Home, etc, it should say next to your key what it is and chances are your computer can run x64 unless its a netbook.
http://www.mydigitallife.info/official-windows-7-sp1-iso-from-digital-river/
I've used these isos with OEM Windows 7 keys and it activates just fine and is perfectly legal since its your licensed key and the ISOs I linked to are unmodified from Microsoft and require a key to work.

Yep. Got an iso on a disc and installed then had to install all the drivers
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[Partial] Hacking myford touch, were getting closer!!!

Ok Devs-
(ALSO sync owners, don't update your sync systems anymore by ford, we are getting close to unlock it, and they will put out updates to bork our hack).
I need some help please. I need to modify this POS sync. You can't do anything with it. I want to get navigation running or bluestacks to run android.
I got the official ford , usb reboot file I have attached it here. It has the signed files that we need.
I was able to tigger the install event with those files. And I believe this is our key to Jailbreak the system.
The best part is that you can run stacked commands on those install scripts. https://www.coalfire.com/The-Coalfire-Blog/October-2014-(1)/Reverse-Shells-and-Your-Car?feed=blogs
I have been struggling to get it it to execute, presumably, I don't know anything about win CE.
I have the win CE cmd.exe on my usb. Place it into the system, it recognizes and initiates upload. What the code below is trying to do is piggy back on the copy via stacked code to upload cmd.exe to the system then execute it. UNless there is another way to get a shell, once we get the shell, WE OWN THEM.
This is what my path is listed on my autoinstall.1st file -
Open1 = DelayedReboot.cab; cmd.exe \tmp\cmd.exe; \tmp\cmd.exe
the cab is required as it is signed by microsoft and bypasses the lock to load additional code.
Changing the semi colon to & makes it error out, so the semi colon is correct, just dunno if I have the paths right. Normally, it would be something like for linux /fs/usb0/etc...... but I am not sure about CE lists the usb device path...again I am win CE retarded. UNless there is a way to % to the paths, but I dunno much about win.
Sync, recognizes and executes with no errors. If I change my code a little, it will not work and say error.
SO what am I missing to get the cmd to run? Or is it already? I was expecting a shell to pop up?
If someone can point me in the right direction, or to point what file I can call to execute the onboard navigation, that would be awesome as well.
Even if we can't get a shell, I'd like to be able to execute a file, then I can run MIOpocket on this thing and ditch sync for android apps.
I have also attached the sync app developer guide link. With programming commands for apps.
https://developer.ford.com/uploads/DevConf%20-%20Track%205%20-%20Best%20Practices.pdf
Here is a link to the windows 7 automotive guide on how the system operates, kernel info, driver info, and stuff.
http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/A/1/0A1E07D6-7562-4566-AACF-E04DF4FF8879/A%20Technical%20Companion%20to%20Windows%20Embedded%20Automotive%207%20(final).pdf
UPDATE: 04/19/2015 -
While it is not a software hack, IT IS possible to unlock the navigation only portion of the MFT 8", if you have it without nav.
IF YOU DO THIS, YOUR CAR WARRANTY IS VOID. You've been warned.
It will cost a little money, but not set you back $1000 like nav tv and lockpick are charging. Maybe $100 or so.
Here is what you need to do, if you can't wait for us to unlock the bootloader.....
1 - Get a used APIM only part with the numbers DS7T in it. (aluminum only part with the fins, you DO NOT need the screen)
2 - Get the VIN# of the car it came out of and check the VIN to see if it was enabled with factory NAV. There are internet sites that will check the VIN for you. Must be a unit with NAV enabled.
http://researchmaniacs.com/VIN-Number-Lookup/WindowSticker/Ford.html
3. Install the APIM only to the back of your LCD.
4. The system will reboot and reset.
5. The system will them ask you to insert the NAV sd card, do that. (obviously, you have to buy a nav card from ebay as well, but those are $10)
6. Enjoy factory NAV for about $100
This is the only workaround for now. THE APIM is separate from the sync system and only interfaces with it. So, you will retain all your OEM VIN# locked stuff and it will survive reboots and updates. The nac actually just unlocks on that APIM portion, believe it or not. This method doesn't tie into the file system software, it merely accesses it.
Now.... if someone would be so kind as to just rip the NAND chip from one of those units and post it, so that we can just flash over our existing equipment, we can do this for FREE!!!!!!
Still working on the video bypass.... It would be nice if our Russian friends can start chiming in for that one please.....
DON"T FALL FOR THE EBAY GUY CHARGING $600 to $700 for this. Let's put him out of business.... Your help is needed.
PROPS TO rahrena8690 for the find.
WORKING FILE LINKS - FOR DEVELOPERS ONLY
Delayed Reboot project
https://mega.co.nz/#!m0BEWSrA!qrdgIRYTvccH52794ktdpRfrulI_pSdY3g-iiCyhaFs

awesome work
kthejoker20 said:
Ok Devs-
(ALSO sync owners, don't update your sync systems anymore by ford, we are getting close to unlock it, and they will put out updates to bork our hack).
I need some help please. I need to modify this POS sync. You can't do anything with it. I want to get navigation running or bluestacks to run android.
I got the official ford , usb reboot file I have attached it here. It has the signed files that we need.
I was able to tigger the install event with those files. And I believe this is our key to Jailbreak the system.
The best part is that you can run stacked commands on those install scripts. https://www.coalfire.com/The-Coalfire-Blog/October-2014-(1)/Reverse-Shells-and-Your-Car?feed=blogs
I have been struggling to get it it to execute, presumably, I don't know anything about win CE.
I have the win CE cmd.exe on my usb. Place it into the system, it recognizes and initiates upload. What the code below is trying to do is piggy back on the copy via stacked code to upload cmd.exe to the system then execute it. UNless there is another way to get a shell, once we get the shell, WE OWN THEM.
This is what my path is listed on my autoinstall.1st file -
Open1 = DelayedReboot.cab; cmd.exe \tmp\cmd.exe; \tmp\cmd.exe
the cab is required as it is signed by microsoft and bypasses the lock to load additional code.
Changing the semi colon to & makes it error out, so the semi colon is correct, just dunno if I have the paths right. Normally, it would be something like for linux /fs/usb0/etc...... but I am not sure about CE lists the usb device path...again I am win CE retarded. UNless there is a way to % to the paths, but I dunno much about win.
Sync, recognizes and executes with no errors. If I change my code a little, it will not work and say error.
SO what am I missing to get the cmd to run? Or is it already? I was expecting a shell to pop up?
If someone can point me in the right direction, or to point what file I can call to execute the onboard navigation, that would be awesome as well.
Even if we can't get a shell, I'd like to be able to execute a file, then I can run MIOpocket on this thing and ditch sync for android apps.
I have also attached the sync app developer guide link. With programming commands for apps.
https://developer.ford.com/uploads/DevConf%20-%20Track%205%20-%20Best%20Practices.pdf
Here is a link to the windows 7 automotive guide on how the system operates, kernel info, driver info, and stuff.
http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/A/1/0A1E07D6-7562-4566-AACF-E04DF4FF8879/A%20Technical%20Companion%20to%20Windows%20Embedded%20Automotive%207%20(final).pdf
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I have been wanting to get into this system since the day I got my truck. All ford has succeeded in doing is piss me off with "updates" that didn't amount to much. I would be happy if they would at least allow applink on the touch systems, as that would at least give us some options to add our own work.
I would love to help, but don't have much experience with "rooting", Windows CE, etc. But looking at what you have so far, I will offer some thoughts that came to mind:
It seems to me that you are working at the bootloader level, not the OS level. I may be way off here, but this could be why cmd won't work, as the OS is not loaded, so a traditional shell is not yet possible.
If you are indeed at the OS level, I wonder since you didn't get any errors when trying to launch cmd, if it was indeed actually running. I know on windows systems, if you manage to launch a process as "system", you typically can't interact with it (security issue). I don't know CE at all, but wonder if PsExec would work if it is launching your exe, but as system...
If it is executing your exe as system, perhaps a script or small app that writes some info about the system to a file on the usb drive would help. IE, have it list the folder structure for example.
I know we are not alone on people wanting to work on this. It looks to me that with Sync 3 dumping MSFT, we may be left in the dust with no further updates, although, this guy has found some signs that it might still get some useful updates:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Ford/comments/2rf2cc/ford_may_announce_updates_to_sync_gen2_myford/
Thanks

kthejoker20 said:
Ok Devs-
(ALSO sync owners, don't update your sync systems anymore by ford, we are getting close to unlock it, and they will put out updates to bork our hack).
I need some help please. I need to modify this POS sync. You can't do anything with it. I want to get navigation running or bluestacks to run android.
I got the official ford , usb reboot file I have attached it here. It has the signed files that we need.
I was able to tigger the install event with those files. And I believe this is our key to Jailbreak the system.
The best part is that you can run stacked commands on those install scripts. https://www.coalfire.com/The-Coalfire-Blog/October-2014-(1)/Reverse-Shells-and-Your-Car?feed=blogs
I have been struggling to get it it to execute, presumably, I don't know anything about win CE.
I have the win CE cmd.exe on my usb. Place it into the system, it recognizes and initiates upload. What the code below is trying to do is piggy back on the copy via stacked code to upload cmd.exe to the system then execute it. UNless there is another way to get a shell, once we get the shell, WE OWN THEM.
This is what my path is listed on my autoinstall.1st file -
Open1 = DelayedReboot.cab; cmd.exe \tmp\cmd.exe; \tmp\cmd.exe
the cab is required as it is signed by microsoft and bypasses the lock to load additional code.
Changing the semi colon to & makes it error out, so the semi colon is correct, just dunno if I have the paths right. Normally, it would be something like for linux /fs/usb0/etc...... but I am not sure about CE lists the usb device path...again I am win CE retarded. UNless there is a way to % to the paths, but I dunno much about win.
Sync, recognizes and executes with no errors. If I change my code a little, it will not work and say error.
SO what am I missing to get the cmd to run? Or is it already? I was expecting a shell to pop up?
If someone can point me in the right direction, or to point what file I can call to execute the onboard navigation, that would be awesome as well.
Even if we can't get a shell, I'd like to be able to execute a file, then I can run MIOpocket on this thing and ditch sync for android apps.
I have also attached the sync app developer guide link. With programming commands for apps.
https://developer.ford.com/uploads/DevConf%20-%20Track%205%20-%20Best%20Practices.pdf
Here is a link to the windows 7 automotive guide on how the system operates, kernel info, driver info, and stuff.
http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/A/1/0A1E07D6-7562-4566-AACF-E04DF4FF8879/A%20Technical%20Companion%20to%20Windows%20Embedded%20Automotive%207%20(final).pdf
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Thanks Pro. any new updates. Actually i just purchase Lincoln MKZ 2014, although i know it is hardware capable to run navigation since i get latitude and longitude, but unfortunately no navigation from the factory. i just play with My Lincoln Touch and on the sittings there is a tab for installing apps. so can we install and windows CE app?

Nothing yet.
Sync updates are rolled out every 6 months.
Rumor was that we are all getting blackberry upgrade from Microsoft.
Update is expected Feb 2015 or so.
We are sitting on the sidelines waiting to see what Ford will do, before we start porting over. There may be no need for our work if we get port link to the new system. I think Ford is on our side, as they don't want us open sourcing the system and have to deal with warranty claims.

kthejoker20 said:
Nothing yet.
Sync updates are rolled out every 6 months.
Rumor was that we are all getting blackberry upgrade from Microsoft.
Update is expected Feb 2015 or so.
We are sitting on the sidelines waiting to see what Ford will do, before we start porting over. There may be no need for our work if we get port link to the new system. I think Ford is on our side, as they don't want us open sourcing the system and have to deal with warranty claims.
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i don't think so. we will not get the QNX update. I think it is a different system with different architecture and requirements. but i hope they unlock the FMT or LMT so we can install any windows ce app.

Please don't reply to this thread with comments or requests.
I'd like to keep it clean to only development comments.

Based on what I'm reading around the page 26 mark (bootloaders section of the windows embedded 7 pdf), it sounds like we need to attempt to give the IPL boot arguments to get into update or development mode and from there we could have a chance of pushing our own files. I would think update mode looks for a signature but dev mode might let anything in.

Way ahead if you. The attached file has the signature. I was able to successfully run stacked commands by modifying the attached reboot file. Problem, the command doesn't stick on reboot.

kthejoker20 said:
Way ahead if you. The attached file has the signature. I was able to successfully run stacked commands by modifying the attached reboot file. Problem, the command doesn't stick on reboot.
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So you were able to launch a command prompt via the delayed reboot zip? I wonder if it would be possible to hack a sync update and then use this to push it.

I need a zip please... I can induce an update no command prompt yet
I can only run commands stacked, but I need to run a script on the sync side, but I can't figure out how to push the script to the sync

kthejoker20 said:
I need a zip please... I can induce an update no command prompt yet
I can only run commands stacked, but I need to run a script on the sync side, but I can't figure out how to push the script to the sync
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This the latest myford touch update Gen2-V3.7.11
http://www.mediafire.com/?79v3d0d8972sy44
Here is the Delayed Reboot zip
http://outofmytouch.com/assets/delayed_reboot.zip

So some very quick looking tonight and I found EA5T-14D546-ATD contains the master patch. Decompiling some of the shockwave files I have found some interesting code. These would most likely be the files to hack to change factory behavior. Getting them flashed to a vehicle might be a whole other issue though.
Edit: After more browsing I think we need to target a master patch for an older version of Sync. I was looking at the master patch for the most current so there are going to be less files patched. I will have a peek at those later.

For some reason, the coalfire site took down it's information regarding the reverse shell of the infotainment system.
Here is what I am talking about with the command on the delayed reboot file. I have conveniently located the stacked command image and attached it for your viewing pleasure.
If we can patch the files, this is how we push them to the chip. Otherwise, I may have to PHYSICALLY pull the system files through JTAG tap... sigh... not really wanting to do that though...
If we can push them, we would have to unlock the bootloader to bypass the sigs... This is where my brain is staring to hurt....
Obviously, these commands do not apply to what we are doing, as that is QNX. Plus, I don't want any noobs spunking their system with our fashizzle yet...until we test it.
Just a final thought, as a plan B, we could reverse shell with the USB exploit as well... just saying.. might be easier

An integer overflow might work as well, but I have never experiemented on an embedded chip. Stacked command invoking an integer overflow, might give us write access to the system.

Has any thought gone into rewriting one of the dll's included in the latest patch to include some sort of backdoor? It seems it'd be easy (maybe I'm missing something here) to just modify the latest patch's install files to install our new dll.

I haven't had time yet, but I am going to try to USB otg pull.... I'm sure I can probably at least disable the vss lock.

kthejoker20 said:
I haven't had time yet, but I am going to try to USB otg pull.... I'm sure I can probably at least disable the vss lock.
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When you tried running the cmd prompt with the stacked command approach did get any indications of the program running? I was thinking about adding some arguments to the end of the command to write a random file to the root of an available drive (like you said, who knows how the thumb drive is recognized).
Also, what type of processor does the system run on?
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duckboy81 said:
When you tried running the cmd prompt with the stacked command approach did get any indications of the program running? I was thinking about adding some arguments to the end of the command to write a random file to the root of an available drive (like you said, who knows how the thumb drive is recognized).
Also, what type of processor does the system run on?
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I think I answered one of the questions. From the PDF you posted "A Technical Companion..." it's a Freescale IMX35 processor.
freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/taxonomy.jsp?code=IMX35_FAMILY&cof=0&am=0

Looking forward to following the progress of this thread! I hope that you all will discover a new solution to our these outdated systems! Good luck guys, I am rooting for you!

duckboy81 said:
When you tried running the cmd prompt with the stacked command approach did get any indications of the program running? I was thinking about adding some arguments to the end of the command to write a random file to the root of an available drive (like you said, who knows how the thumb drive is recognized).
Also, what type of processor does the system run on?
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I think I answered one of the questions. From the PDF you posted "A Technical Companion..." it's a Freescale IMX35 processor.
freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/taxonomy.jsp?code=IMX35_FAMILY&cof=0&am=0
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Actually I am pretty sure the MyFord Touch processor is an I.MX51 acccording to a Ford PDF I found. Unfortunately I am new to posting here and it won't let me post links.
I work on the almost identical I.MX53 processor at work doing Linux kernel, u-boot boot loader, and Linux application software, so I might be able to help.
Most of the I.MX processors have built in ROM code that allows booting to a USB or Serial downloaded mode. This allows loading any software you want into any RAM address and then booting from it. Then you run completely out of RAM (like a live CD). Depending on how Ford setup the I.MX51 e-fuse settings, there may be an external pin that could be used to enter this serial downloaded mode. Freescale provides a tool called the MfgTool to load software using the serial download mode. Then you could load Linux, Android, or whatever. The e-fuses also allow you to lock out JTAG, serial downloaded mode, and enable boot time signature checking, but I am not sure if Ford used any of these to lock the system down.

Do we know where the processor is located in the fusion?

nuvision windows tablet tm800w610l

hi i have a nuvision windows tablet tm800w610l,couple days ago when windows updates installing blue error screen come and i think say(ssd error) after that windows not booted say(bcd error),so i downloaded windows frimware from website and put in bootable flash and connect with otg to tablet(via simple hub for flash and keyboard)now i have a problem with installing new windows,i think usb speed is very very slow,it cant boot windows for installing(take 20-30 minuts just on the windows install loading screen)after that black screen and nothing happening,im tested other bootable iso files but speed is very very slow i cant do any thing.im searched net some people think its on bios setting,some think usb hub is problem(before that i have a another windows tablet and installed windows via same hub)
so i dont know where is the problem,in bios there is very very settings i dont know which setting must changed.
thanks.

had to reload mine from scratch worked fine with a OTG hub, keyboard , mouse and flash drive .

Got touch working?

image
where did you get the image from?
the one on the nuvision website is corrupt.
I tried new and old versions of winrar and it has checksum errors
same with the drivers. what the f***. tried googleing filenames etc and get almost no results.

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where did you get the image from?
the one on the nuvision website is corrupt.
I tried new and old versions of winrar and it has checksum errors
same with the drivers. what the f***. tried googleing filenames etc and get almost no results.
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Just an FYI, the version that’s currently on the Nuvision website works.
It’s not an iso, at least it doesn’t download as one. I took that file and created an iso and used a usb bootable maker to create the usb drive.
It recognized it upon restarting in advanced mode. The installer is in another language but it got me up and running again.
Just wanted to put this out there.

You can use the NuVision image if you wish (You just extract the RAR to your USB drive and then boot it in your tablet), or you can create installation media using the Windows Media Creation tool (or UUPtoISO if you want to use Insider Preview downloads from another machine).
As long as you use the correct processor architecture, you don't need the NuVision restore package (It's also out of date and no longer supported by Microsoft as it's version 1511, or maybe it was 1603 either way it's unsupported as of now). Some drivers maybe, but a lot of those are available via WU (I've never had to actually install any drivers doing a clean install from a Windows ISO).
This also applies to the NuVision TM800W560L, any 32-bit image will boot and work properly for installing Windows. If you look into installing 64-bit Linux on the W560L though, it's a little more complicated (yes, you can install 64-bit Linux, but not Windows. This is because the Linux kernel can replace UEFI Runtime Services if it needs to, which booting a 64-bit Kernel with a 32-bit version of GRUB causes UEFI to disable access to Runtime Services, which is why Windows cannot run like this and bugchecks with UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR.)