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Possible Lollipop roll out - changelog inside

Hey I create this topic to discuss the new Android 5.0 Lollipop for our Moto G2 which was posted a changelog in motorola website to possible OTA update in the next days. Theres a quote of what is coming...
Moto G (2nd Generation) - Android™ 5.0 Lollipop - Release Notes
INTRODUCTION
We are excited to announce a new software update for Moto G (2nd Generation) by Motorola. This update brings Android™ 5.0 Lollipop to your phone along with other improvements.
For more information on Motorola updates and repairs, visit us at www.motorola.com/mymotog.
NOTE: You cannot downgrade to a previous software version after installing this update.
ENHANCEMENTS
Android™ 5.0 Lollipop is one of the most significant in recent Android history. It improves your experience in many areas including visual style and how you interact with your device.
After installing the software update you may notice changes that include:
Material Design
You will quickly notice a whole new colorful look and feel to your device - from fluid animations to new application and system themes, colors and widgets.
Notifications UI & Priorities
In order to alert you to the most timely and relevant information, the format and behavior of notifications have evolved:
notifications will appear on the lock screen and are intelligently ranked by type and who sent them.
you double-tap to open one, swipe left or right to clear one, or clear all notifications from the bottom of the list.
you can set the priority and privacy of notifications for each application.
very high priority notifications will pop up briefly over other applications so that you can take action.
when you dismiss a notification on one device it will be dismissed on your other Android devices, if they are connected to the Internet.
you can further tailor how notifications behave with the new Downtime and Ambient Display settings (see below).
New Interruptions & Downtime Settings You can tailor how interruptions behave, choosing to allow all, none, or only priority interruptions. You can personalize what counts as a priority interruption (reminders, events, calls, messages) and even tailor them to be from only contacts you specify. The Downtime setting will allow only priority interruptions during the times and days that you specify. e.g. allow only priority interruptions on the weekend.
Recent Apps (Multi-tasking)
The redesigned Overview space (formerly called Recents) will include both applications and separate activities within those applications. For instance, each open tab in Chrome will also appear here along with recent applications; both your Gmail Inbox and a draft email message will appear as separate cards. This provides a consistent way to switch amongst tasks.
Ambient Display
While your phone’s display is off, Ambient Display can show notifications without turning on the full display. This will be triggered when a notification arrives. You will see notifications similar to that shown on the lock screen. You can turn this feature on in the Display menu in Settings, and note that it will increase the power consumption of your device.
Motorola Assist and Downtime
Motorola Assist integrates the new Downtime settings to control when you don’t want to be disturbed. Motorola Assist also now uses the new Interruptions settings so that you can customize exceptions, such as letting only people on your starred contacts list get through.
Flashlight
Lollipop includes a new flashlight option as part of Quick settings (swipe down with two fingers from the status bar to see it).
Share your Device
You can now set up multiple user accounts on your phone. Guest mode is enabled by default. You can give calling and text privileges to other users of your device, or restrict them as you like in the Users menu under Settings.
Note that the personalized Motorola experiences (Motorola Assist, Motorola Connect) are for the owner account only.
The Motorola Camera, Motorola Gallery, and Motorola FM Radio applications support multiple user accounts.
Pin a view/app
Screen pinning allows you to keep a specific app or screen in view. For example, you can ‘pin’ a game and your child will not be able to navigate anywhere else on your phone.
Battery
The Battery settings panel now shows an estimated projection for how much time you have left while discharging or charging. You can also enable a new battery saver mode that will save power by reducing performance and most background data operations to extend your battery life.
Smarter Internet Connections
With Android Lollipop, your phone will not connect to a Wi-Fi access point unless there is a verified Internet connection. This feature improves hand-offs between Wi-Fi and cellular connections, helping to maintain your video chat or voice-over-IP (VoIP) call as you switch.
Performance
Your phone now uses the new Android Runtime to help optimize application performance. After upgrading to Lollipop, your applications will undergo a one-time optimization process. Note that the optimization for ART requires more space.
Smart Lock
(Trusted Devices) Android Lollipop adds native support for allowing trusted devices to keep your phone unlocked (such as your Moto 360, a Bluetooth car kit or headset, etc.). Smart Lock replaces the prior trusted device capability in your Motorola phone. Note that you will need to add your trusted devices back after the transition to Lollipop in the Security settings menu under Smart Lock.
Security
Encryption can now use a stronger 256-bit key to help protect your data. Note that the stronger key will only be used after you perform a factory reset on Android Lollipop. Otherwise encryption will continue to use 128-bit key. You can turn on encryption in the Security settings menu.
INSTRUCTIONS
For a successful installation, we recommend installing this update when the battery in your phone is at least 50% charged and you are connected to a Wi-Fi network.
If you have received a notification message for this update:
Select "Yes, I’m in".
After the software is downloaded, select "Install now".
After the software is installed, your phone will re-start automatically.
Your phone is now updated with <insert build number>
If you have not received a notification message for this update, follow the steps below to manually update your phone:
Select the Settings icon in the apps menu.
Select "About phone".
Select "System updates".
Select "Yes, I’m in". After the software is downloaded, select "Install now".
After the software is installed, your phone will re-start automatically.
Your phone is now updated to <insert build number>
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Source: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/102639

Good thing is that you quoted it cause it's seems Motorola removed it from their site.
Can't wait now

So, if we want to root later, should we take the OTA or wait for a flashable ZIP?
Like, will Motorola be doing any Motorola-specific root-blocking or anything? On my old Samsung GS4, all the OTAs removed any new root exploits.
Or, because the bootloader is unlockable, we're OK?

I'm not sure but I don't think there's a root solution for Android L yet. That and no Xposed support. I'll hold out on the account of both of those things.

Well, Chainfire was able to root Lollipop on the Nexus 9 a few days ago: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-9/orig-development/root-t2929118
Interestingly, Lollipop requires the kernel to be patched on every boot.
Hmm, I've never used Xposed, but it sounds great. But, I'm not optimistic on Xposed on ART coming anytime soon.
Maybe I'm headed back to custom ROMs or a la carte mods...
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So, I guess the answer to the initial question is: OK to perform the OTA update? No permanent modifications happen?
If we really miss Xposed or root in the coming weeks, we can just flash back to KitKat (I assume that when Motorola said you can't downgrade they didn't include users who unlocked their bootloader). Right?

Great post, but the fact that they removed it from their site doesn't make me comfortable... They must have some problem with it!

smitharro said:
Great post, but the fact that they removed it from their site doesn't make me comfortable... They must have some problem with it!
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Most likely it was accidentally put up too early, so they hid it again until the time is right.

Ambient display on ips panel??No ty

andrewk2x said:
Ambient display on ips panel??No ty
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may be mistake from them while writing for Moto G and X
after all the changelogs are not final you can see <insert built number> there

I'm really looking forward to LP on the MG2
Does anybody know if there will be a option to disable the lock when I'm conneted to a certain Wifi?

andrewk2x said:
Ambient display on ips panel??No ty
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Right? They do say in the changelog that it will increase battery consumption, though.

ikjadoon said:
Right? They do say in the changelog that it will increase battery consumption, though.
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I think it will be there but you can disable it in the display settings

not named said:
I'm really looking forward to LP on the MG2
Does anybody know if there will be a option to disable the lock when I'm conneted to a certain Wifi?
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Not via WiFi, two options will be if connected to A trusted Bluetooth device or you can have face unlock setup and trust me, this face unlock is very different from ICS and Jellybean. And these are applicable only on secured lockscreen.

Ambient Display is a part of Android 5.0 Lollipop and we can on/off it under display settings.

nirmalbalaji said:
Ambient Display is a part of Android 5.0 Lollipop and we can on/off it under display settings.
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Yup. On the Moto X 2014 Lollipop, there's an option to switch it with Moto Active Display.

Look's like that changelog was a slight mess up from moto's side.Our phone surely wont have ambient display

theserpent said:
Look's like that changelog was a slight mess up from moto's side.Our phone surely wont have ambient display
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Ambient display is a Lollipop feature and it will present in every Lollipop rom no matter which phone, unless the OEM or Rom developer removes it.

From the wording of the change log it sounds like Ambient Display is off by default anyway so you would have to turn it on manually.
Personally cannot wait for Lollipop I'm definitely going to factory reset after the update to make it as pure/smooth as possible

I thought we would get more news today about the soak test for the Moto G. MAkes me wonder how premature was the publication of those Release Notes

News! http://www.idigitaltimes.com/moto-g...load-and-install-new-build-ota-rollout-394272

Droid Turbo Tips & Tricks

1) Migrate your data
Unless the Droid Turbo is the first mobile device you have ever owned, chances are you are going to want to access data and information stored on your old phone. No, you don’t have to keep that old phone around in case you need to look up a number or show a previously captured photo. The Droid Turbo offers multiple options for syncing existing data to your device, most notably Motorola Migrate.
Transfer data from existing device with Motorola Migrate
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Motorola Migrate gives you the option to move stored data like photos, contacts, and more from nearly any old phone (including other Android phones, iPhones, and even feature phones) to your Droid Turbo. Depending on what type of device your previous phone was, the process will vary.
For Android devices, download the Motorola Migrate app from Google Play onto your old phone. Make sure both devices are connected to WiFi, open Migrate on your Droid Turbo, and select “Android” when asked for the device type. Follow the on screen instructions.
To restore data from an iPhone, open Motorola Migrate and select “iPhone.” You will be asked to enter account credentials for your iCloud and Google accounts to initiate a data transfer. Follow the on screen instructions.
Feature phones will require a working Bluetooth connection. Establish such by opening Motorola Migrate and selection “Other phone type.” Follow the on screen directions to connect via Bluetooth and transfer your contacts and other info.
Verizon Cloud and other services
For existing Verizon customers upgrading to the turbo, Verizon Cloud allows you to use 5GB of free cloud storage to transfer the data including contacts, photos, music, messages, and more to your new Droid Turbo. You will need the Verizon Cloud app on both devices and a WiFi connection for your old phone (if you haven’t already backed up your old phone to the cloud). Follow the in-app instructions to complete a data transfer.
As an additional benefit, Verizon Cloud can also serve as a backup for your device’s data should your Turbo become lost or damaged. Verizon also offers the ability to restore up to 90 days of previously synced messages via Verizon Messages.
2) Never lose your phone
When first powering on your Droid Turbo you will be greeted with a notification inviting you to “Protect your phone.” Tapping this notification will guide you through the steps to activate Motorola’s Device Management, a service that allows users to remotely track, lock, or wipe the storage of a lost or stolen handset.
If you dismissed the notification without completing the necessary steps, activate Device Management by following the proceeding steps:
Navigate to Settings > Security
Tap “Device Administrators”
Activate “Motorola Device Policy”
To access remote options for a lost or stolen device, navigate to www.motorola.com/support from any browser, enter your Motorola ID, and click “Lost Device.”
You may additionally or alternatively choose to protect your device with Android Device Manager. Download the app from the Google Play Store and follow the in-app prompts to enable protections.
3) Install and update your apps
If you are a previous user of Android devices, linking your new Droid Turbo to your Google account will allow you to download and update apps you have installed on other devices. To install previously downloaded or purchased apps:
Open the Google Play Store app
From the menu, navigate to My apps > All
Find the app or apps you wish to install and tap “Install” or “Enable”
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Once your apps are installed, you may wish to enable the ability for Google Play to keep them automatically up to date. Do so by following these steps:
From the menu of the Google Play Store app, navigate to “Settings”
Tap “Auto-update apps”
Select how you would like Google Play to handle app updates
We recommend choosing to only update apps when connected to a WiFi network, otherwise your monthly data allowance could quickly be overrun by bulky apps and games decided to update while you are relying on cellular data alone, eating up precious bandwidth.
4) Customize your home screen
You chose Android in part because of its great customization options, so now is the time to put a personal touch on your home screens. You can add app shortcuts, folders, and widgets for your most used apps directly to any open home screen panels and arrange and modify them to your heart’s delight.
Add shortcuts, widgets, and folders or change your wallpaper
The easiest way to add an item to your home screen is to long press any area currently not holding an item. This will launch the option to either view available widgets or change your homescreen wallpaper. Add a widget by opening the Widgets pane and selecting and dragging the new item to the area on your home screen where you want it to live.
To add application shortcuts, open the App Drawer and long-press the icon of desired app, then drag it to the area of the home screen where you want to place it. To create folders, simply drag and drop icons on top of each other. Folder names can be customized, allowing you to organize all your apps as you see fit.
Customize the dock
You can also customize which shortcuts appear in your dock. There is room for four, and these slots are normally reserved for your most used apps like the dialer, messaging, web browser, and camera. To rearrange dock items simply long press and drag to a new position. To add a new item to the dock, first create space by dragging any unwanted shortcuts out of the dock and either onto the home screen or trash. Then find the shortcut you wish to replace it with either in the App Drawer or on the homescreen, long-press it and drag it into position in the dock.
5) Get a helping hand from Moto Assist
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With Moto Assist your device can smartly adapt to whatever situation life puts you in. You might forget to silence your phone during that important business meeting, but your Droid Turbo won’t. There are four basic modes in Moto Assist that act as follows.
Sleeping
Choose the time when you are typically sleeping to prevent your Droid Turbo from keeping you up at night. Calls and alerts will be silenced and your phone’s display will be kept dark. You can optionally choose to allow your phone to set exceptions for starred favorites in the People app and those who call twice in a row, making sure you don’t miss an important or urgent call.
Driving
With GPS on your phone enabled and driving mode activated in Moto Assist, your phone will use your current speed and background noise to determine when you are in the car. You can select options for your phone to enter hands-free mode and speak aloud the names of incoming callers and messages as well as the ability to automatically start playing music over your car stereo (provided your car’s audio system has Bluetooth capabilities).
Home
If Home mode is enabled, your Droid Turbo will enter “Talk to me” mode when it detects you are at your home address. Your phone will read aloud the names of incoming callers and any messages.
Meeting
With Meeting mode enabled, Moto Assist will use your Google Calendar to determine when you are in a meeting. You can choose to silence your device during meetings, set an auto reply for missed calls from saved favorites, or set exceptions for favorite contacts and urgent calls.
6) Command your Droid Turbo
droid-turbo-voice-commands
The Droid Turbo comes with enhanced voice control capabilities allowing you to speak commands to your phone even when in sleep mode. By default this option is disabled, but you can quickly enable it by opening the Moto app and tapping the microphone icon.
You will first be asked to create a launch phrase. This can be anything of your choosing, from “Hello Moto” to “I bow to my Droid master” or anything you else can think of. Longer launch commands work better than shorter ones (“OK Droid Turbo” versus “Hello”). You will also want to make sure you are in a quiet environment when initially training your Turbo to recognize your chosen launch command to allow for more accurate audio detection.
Users will have the option to opt-in to additional voice support from Google Now and enabling location. Open the Google Settings app found in the app drawer and navigate to “Search & Now.” Toggle Google Now to “On.”
To use voice commands, simply speak your launch command followed by a question or other voice directive. Try the following:
How old is Barack Obama?
Do I need an umbrella today?
Navigate to the Empire State building
Call [Contact Name]
The Droid Turbo also utilizes additional commands specific to the phone’s capabilities and the apps installed on it. For instance, if you lose your phone you can say aloud “Call my Droid” to initiate a loud tone to aid in locating your handset buried in the couch cushions (or wherever it may be). Here are a few more:
What’s up? (for an overview of recent notifications)
Take a selfie (to enable the front-facing camera on a timer)
Good Night (to enter Sleep Mode)
Good Morning (to exit sleep mode)
Post to Facebook (to update status)
Play
on YouTube
For more commands and additional info, simply speak the command “Help Me” or see our full rundown of Google voice commands.
7) Never miss a notification
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The Droid Turbo’s Moto Display keeps important information ready at a glance while saving battery life. Using an efficient method that only powers up the necessary pixels to display information, Moto Display gives users access their three most recent notifications as well as the ability to unlock their Droid Turbo without ever touching the power button.
Moto Display will light up when a new notification is received (or when it senses your hand is near if Moto Actions are enabled [see below]). Pressing a notification will provide more info. Dragging right or left to the edge of the screen will dismiss it, while dragging toward the top of the screen will launch the app associated with the notification. You might need to enter your password or unlock pattern at this point.
To unlock your phone to the homescreen, drag down from the lock icon on Moto Display. Enter your password as necessary.
8) Enable gesture controls
droid-turbo-moto-actions
The Droid Turbo has built-in infrared sensors that allow users to take advantage of unique gesture controls. To enable, open the Moto app, tap the settings icon in the top right corner, and select Moto Actions. For a demo of the various actions available, choose “Try Moto Actions.”
To see recent notifications or check the time without pressing your Turbo’s power button, enable “Approach for Moto Display.” Your Droid Turbo will sense when you are reaching for it and light the display with pertinent info.
You can wave away sounds and alarms by selecting “Wave to Silence.” When you receive an incoming call (or when your alarm starts going off), wave your hand over the display. This will work best if you keep your hand within 6 inches of the bottom of the display.
9) Get a quick charge
If you are short on both time and battery life, the Droid Turbo has the perfect solution. Included out of the box is the Motorola Turbo Charger, an otherwise nondescript wall wart that has Qualcomm Quick Charge technology built in. When connected to your Droid Turbo, it can provide up to 8 hours of additional battery life in only 15 minutes of charging time. It’s a mere fraction of the handset’s claimed 48-hour battery life, but it’s more than enough in most cases.
You do not need to enable any special options to take advantage of turbo charging, but you must use the charging accessories included in the box with the Droid Turbo. Charging rates will slow as the batteries capacity fills up.
10) Explore the Motorola Droid Turbo Forums for more
If you follow these steps you will be all set to get the most out of your Droid Turbo from the moment you power it on, but they merely scratch the surface of what the device is truly capable of. For even more in the way of tips, tricks, answers, and other info, check out the new Droid Turbo forums at Android Forums. You can browse around as a guest or throw in your own two cents by signing up for an Android Forums account today.
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Is this for real?

This is just a guide to unlock phones that are OEM unlockable. Droid turbo isn't one of them.

Then what was the point?
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Why would we thank you for providing useless info. The turbo can't be unlocked via moto .. Somebody close this thread

PILLMUZIK3600 said:
Then what was the point?
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Why would we thank you for providing useless info. The turbo can't be unlocked via moto .. Somebody close this thread
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Don't know. I'm not the OP. I can just tell by his guide that this isn't specific to unlocking the turbo.

Gimme my "thanks" back, what a waste.
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Switch Data on/off

What is the best shortcut to toggle data on/off (not WiFi)?
Thanks

Very simple actually:
1. Pull down notification down all the way
2. Tap once on your cellular network icon
3. Turn off (or turn it back on) the data
4. Your done
pesansiviero said:
What is the best shortcut to toggle data on/off (not WiFi)?
Thanks
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Tim3tripp3r said:
Very simple actually:
1. Pull down notification down all the way
2. Tap once on your cellular network icon
3. Turn off (or turn it back on) the data
4. Your done
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When I pull down notification and tap on my cellular network icon (there are two side by side - it's a 2 SIM card model) it opens a "Data usage" screen and then I have to tap on an icon that shows me another screen named "Sim cards" where I have a control named (Cellular Data) that allows me to turn it off.
Too much steps. That's why I asked.
Thanks for trying to answer.

Tim3tripp3r said:
Very simple actually:
1. Pull down notification down all the way
2. Tap once on your cellular network icon
3. Turn off (or turn it back on) the data
4. Your done
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Lol

lol

For single SIM variant which the original poster did not specifically say it would
look like the screenshot. Which is only one click from pull down menu.

I agree it's a pain in the ass. I use a shortcut in Nova. It eliminates 1 click.
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I took a look around in the Play Store and only found apps for the mediatek SoC dual SIM which of course isn't going to work here. I don't think any of the normal apps (widgets) that work on single SIM are up to the challenge. Last thought on this - maybe as time goes forward that some of the users working on custom Roms like CM & AOSP might be able to include some tricks for this kind of thing.

Anyone find a solution to this? The dual SIM version is a pain to disable data. Not to mention I want to have this done automatically with Tasker and I cannot right now... Thanks!

I am not 100% sure if this works with dual sim, however running Shell command in Tasker svc data disable/enable works great. Be sure to check root.

Don't have the Moto but 3G Watchdog includes a widget for toggling the data on/off by one touch on an icon. It works with Zuk Z1 which is a dual sim phone. Maybe you can try this.

gravitybox has this.also has toggle for smart network!

NFC toggle Off Automatically During Call - Clicking Workaround

**EDIT - THIS IS NO LONGER REQUIRED AS OF .025, ISSUE HAS BEEN RESOLVED VIA GOOGLE UPDATE**
Hey Guys,
I know a lot of you (myself included) are experiencing the NFC clicking issue on your Pixel 2's.
I wanted to show you a workaround, which will automatically disable NFC during a call, and re-enable it when the call ends. This is a temporary fix which you can use until the following promise is fulfilled...:
"Hey All,
We are validating a software update to address faint clicking sounds on some Pixel 2 devices. The update will be made available in the coming weeks. The clicking noise being reported does not affect the performance of your device but if you find it bothersome you can temporarily turn off NFC in Settings > Connected devices > NFC. "
Posted by Orrin - Community Manager, Found on:
https://productforums.google.com/fo...-place=topicsearchin/phone-by-google/clicking
This workaround uses the Macrodroid application. It requires root (Not yet available as far as I am aware) or an ADB Hack (What I used) for this to work.
You can grant Macrodroid "System" access by performing the following (ADB Hack):
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/mac...23&p=10455&hilit=WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS#p10455
This will allow Macrodroid to enable and disable NFC WITHOUT root.
Once access has been granted create the following macros:
Macro #1:
Name: NFC Off
Triggers: Call Active (Any Contact, Any Number, Non Contact, Unknown Caller)
Actions: NFC Off
Macro #2:
Name: NFC On
Triggers: Call Ended (Any Contact, Any Number, Non Contact, Unknown Caller)
Action: NFC On
You can disable the persistent notification icon by opening Macrodroid, going to settings > Notification Bar Options > Force Hide Icon.
This has been working great for me, and I know it looks like a lot of work but its a great alternative to manually toggling NFC off and on.
Macrodroid is also super useful in general so, enjoy!

Thanks for this. Very good idea until we get a fix from Google.

I too saw the MacroDroid page you refer to and was just going to post here about it - but saw you'd beaten me to it by several days! It works really well!
I also use Macrodroid to put my phone into silent mode overnight when it's charging AND connected to my home wifi AND it's after 9pm. Disconnecting the power reverts it to normal mode. I love MacroDroid - it's much easier to understand if you're not a programmer than any of its competitors like Tasker.

Oreo Phone dialer changed

In Nougat 7.1.2 when using dual sims, the Green call button showed the two carriers you were using and you'd just press which one to start the call...
Now in Oreo the Green call button is the typical round circle, and when you tap it, now you get a popup window that says, 'Call with', showing both the carriers and you click on one.
Has anyone using dual sim cards noticed this? I really don't like this popup window and the extra step involved here, and would love to have the option the way it was in Nougat, if possible...

DoR3M3 said:
In Nougat 7.1.2 when using dual sims, the Green call button showed the two carriers you were using and you'd just press which one to start the call...
Now in Oreo the Green call button is the typical round circle, and when you tap it, now you get a popup window that says, 'Call with', showing both the carriers and you click on one.
Has anyone using dual sim cards noticed this? I really don't like this popup window and the extra step involved here, and would love to have the option the way it was in Nougat, if possible...
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So what is the difference now?

DoR3M3 said:
In Nougat 7.1.2 when using dual sims, the Green call button showed the two carriers you were using and you'd just press which one to start the call...
Now in Oreo the Green call button is the typical round circle, and when you tap it, now you get a popup window that says, 'Call with', showing both the carriers and you click on one.
Has anyone using dual sim cards noticed this? I really don't like this popup window and the extra step involved here, and would love to have the option the way it was in Nougat, if possible...
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Request the APK of the Nougat version of the phone app from someone who has Nougat installed. Install it, and disable the Oreo version of the phone app.

Pls go to settings --> network and internet --> sim cards --> unders calls select preffered carrier.. that's all

What DoR3M3 wants is, the phone dialer should always show two "call" buttons for two sims,
So that he can easily choose irrespective of what's there selected in settings
Nougat dialer had that, which even i loved... In oreo its removed.
Me too want it back.

Eshwar123 said:
What DoR3M3 wants is, the phone dialer should always show two "call" buttons for two sims,
So that he can easily choose irrespective of what's there selected in settings
Nougat dialer had that, which even i loved... In oreo its removed.
Me too want it back.
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Yes someone understands! Why developers remove great UI options, I'll never understand! LOL
After all, doesn't anyone remember the day Popups came to town? Well, now some bone head developer makes this into a popup window choice, as if a popup anywhere is acceptable...
By the way, who removed this, Google or Xiaomi? We need to seriously round up the troops and get this bloody put back the way it was, because it was better!

DoR3M3 said:
Yes someone understands! Why developers remove great UI options, I'll never understand! LOL
After all, doesn't anyone remember the day Popups came to town? Well, now some bone head developer makes this into a popup window choice, as if a popup anywhere is acceptable...
By the way, who removed this, Google or Xiaomi? We need to seriously round up the troops and get this bloody put back the way it was, because it was better!
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I think it's Google.
A bad move...
If I figure out how to get it back/ or at least an alternative, I'll let you know

To clear some air. On Nougat, community and user criticised Google and Xiaomi for using AOSP code to build AOSP Ron when this phone was mentioned to be Google supported. Meaning, Nougat' dialer is directly from AOSP code and that supports dual call options.
On Oreo, Google and Xiaomi move comeletly to Google software and that is why now you see Google dialer(does not support dual call option like on AOSP) And messages app replaced. To name a few.
Hope this helps. In case you need the desired Dialer, try ZenUi dialer from playstore. It is great alternative from ASUS

Hope this helps. In case you need the desired Dialer, try ZenUi dialer from playstore. It is great alternative from ASUS[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's true. Earlier in N, I could delete call log of an individual in batch with an ease, but in O, I'm forced to delete it one by one, which is tiresome and irritating.

But did you noticed, even if you call from the other sim from ZenUi dialer. The call is made from the preferred sim.

@Eshwar123 thanks, I hope you or someone can figure out how to put it back...
zeyaan said:
To clear some air. On Nougat, community and user criticised Google and Xiaomi for using AOSP code to build AOSP Ron when this phone was mentioned to be Google supported. Meaning, Nougat' dialer is directly from AOSP code and that supports dual call options.
On Oreo, Google and Xiaomi move comeletly to Google software and that is why now you see Google dialer(does not support dual call option like on AOSP) And messages app replaced. To name a few.
Hope this helps. In case you need the desired Dialer, try ZenUi dialer from playstore. It is great alternative from ASUS
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This being AndroidOne, I thought ASOP would be correct, not Google...
I wonder if using the Feedback app is good, anyone use it? I'd rather not send something directly through the phone for security reasons... hmm Mi Community has a Feedback section on the forum, or maybe best just to email them... [email protected]