Hey guys,
I just hopped on the $50 deal Amazon was having for Fire HD 8" tablets, and I cringe at the idea of dealing with Amazon's proprietary bs.
Ideally I'd like to install a custom ROM, but it looks like that isn't an option regardless of my software version or generation. So, I'd really like to root at the very least, if possible.
Assuming that maybe the model ships with an OS version less than 5.6, is there anything I can do before first boot that could enable me to root or do something helpful?
I hope that all makes sense. Thanks so much for the help you guys.
I'm in the same situation with that $50 deal. Well I've actually booted mine up, but without internet connection, to avoid any updates from which I may not be able to backtrack. Judging from mine, it looks like these are shipping with Fire OS 5.6.0.0 which is dated as 28 Nov 2017. I gather that so far there's nothing in the way of unlocking to be done for this version, and that downgrading seems to risk the device bricking. I wish there was a separate xda section for the 2017 versions, it would save a lot of searching and disappointment
Honestly, unless you want to maintain the remote possibility of gaining root, just pay the $15 to Amazon to remove ads, install Google Play Store and Launcher Hijack and your launcher of choice, and it will feel as close as you're going to get to a standard Android tablet.
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Honestly, unless you want to maintain the remote possibility of gaining root, just pay the $15 to Amazon to remove ads, install Google Play Store and Launcher Hijack and your launcher of choice, and it will feel as close as you're going to get to a standard Android tablet.
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You see the date of the thread you replied to right?...
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I have 2 of the new 2017 HD 8's, one for me and my gf. Im wondering if anyone has been able to find stable root or has any issues for side loading google play?
Primary uses will be to watch kodi, amazon prime tv, netflix, and general social media.
mine comes with the advertisements, but $15 charge to get rid of em, i will have to see how annoying that is.
Appreciate the feedback!
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I have 2 of the new 2017 HD 8's, one for me and my gf. Im wondering if anyone has been able to find stable root or has any issues for side loading google play?
Primary uses will be to watch kodi, amazon prime tv, netflix, and general social media.
mine comes with the advertisements, but $15 charge to get rid of em, i will have to see how annoying that is.
Appreciate the feedback!
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I'm wondering the same, I've got one coming Saturday and I'm kinda scared to update or connect in case I miss an opportunity to root. Hopefully the older methods will work for Play Store and such.
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@boadicea I did find this, a post with apks for sideloading Playstore on the 7th Gen. Hope it works and helps!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603
No root, but google play works
boadicea said:
I have 2 of the new 2017 HD 8's, one for me and my gf. Im wondering if anyone has been able to find stable root or has any issues for side loading google play?
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Nobody's really cracked root on the 2016 or 2017 versions yet, as far as I can tell. There are some folks at LineageOS working on getting a version of that rom onto this device, but not a lot of word so far.
I got Google Play sideloaded successfully by using this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603
NOTE: When you enable the installing of apps from unknown sources, make sure you restart the device before attempting to open any of the downloaded apks. Otherwise, the install button just won't work and you might go crazy trying to figure out why. For whatever reason, Amazon's device settings need a fresh restart after you tick that box.
NOTE 2: If you just bought these, you likely have the 2017 edition. If that's the case, you'll want to pay attention to the red letters in that guide marked "Note (3)".
SOURCE: Just got mine today.
So far there is no root for any Amazon tablet at this time, unless you have an OS earlier than 5.3.2.1. There may not be root at all for these tablets. Amazon offers a 30 day refund policy on them. If you find they aren't for you, that's how long you have to return them
Thank you all for the responses! just unpacked, screen protected, and turned it on. Looks like its running 5.3.3.0 so looks like im SOL for now.
No worries either way, sideloading stuff is all i need. was just meant to allow me to save battery on my phone/usage and not have to be bent over on a laptop.
Will follow the aforementioned guides to install google play
Appreciate the help!
I can suggest three apps to help in the battery, space and memory saving department. 'All In One Toolbox,' 'Brevent' and 'NetGuard.' All available in Google Play Store. If you need help giving All In One Toolbox it's usage access, let me know and I'll link you to a few threads i wrote on how to give apps proper usage access that need it and to revoke the access to some Amazon apps.
I just bought a new 2017 7th generation Fire HD 8 for $50 during prime day sale. I jumped the gun not realizing that there is no root. I have the previous generation fire 7 with Slim Rom installed that I rooted back on Christmas of 2015. It still works great and my kids use it everyday. I'm impressed with the older fire 7 as I have daydream on displaying the weather while it's charging and the daily abuse it gets from the kids. I really would like to have a bigger, better screen with dual audio for the kids, hence why I bought the HD 8. I might return it, or hold on to it till root and custom Rom becomes available... Hopefully in the near future.
having fun
boadicea said:
I have 2 of the new 2017 HD 8's, one for me and my gf. Im wondering if anyone has been able to find stable root or has any issues for side loading google play?
Primary uses will be to watch kodi, amazon prime tv, netflix, and general social media.
mine comes with the advertisements, but $15 charge to get rid of em, i will have to see how annoying that is.
Appreciate the feedback!
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Hi boadicea,
apart from my feedback on Gmail that you can read here,
there is no issue at all at installing (side loading)Google Play.
I just bought my first tablet, and installed Google Play in few seconds following the link above
Only thing where I have been spending some time is to make sure to disable the OTA updates. (my post here)
Happy tweak.
Anyone has been able to root fire hd 8 and install lineage os ?
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Anyone has been able to root fire hd 8 and install lineage os ?
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No.
Was considering getting a fire10. The same one here:
https://www.amazon.com/All-New-Amaz...1529422391&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=tablet&psc=1
I dont necessarily care about root although I guess it would be ok. Is there any way to get android on it? Or at the bare minimum, the store, so I can do google native things? lol.
You can get Google play , and change the launcher , you can also root . Fire os is a modified Android .
There is no way to change it though.
Did you even look on the xda fire hd page . It's all there
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Was considering getting a fire10. The same one here:
https://www.amazon.com/All-New-Amaz...1529422391&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=tablet&psc=1
I dont necessarily care about root although I guess it would be ok. Is there any way to get android on it? Or at the bare minimum, the store, so I can do google native things? lol.
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Rooting it is fairly easy. If you don't want to bother with that though, you can install the Play Store without a problem (there is just a sequence in which the Google apps have to be installed) and have Launcher Hijack run your launcher of choice and it would look and function like a regular Android. The HD 10 is the best tablet for the money, in my opinion. I tried to get another one when they went on sale for $100 a few months ago but I just missed it
I would like to jailbreak this Fire and be able to add apps and use it as a dedicated device for a specific purpose. When I attempt to download the apps from the Amazon app page I see a notice that the device is not supported. I know I purchased this device in 2012 or 2013, so I know it is old.
So tell me would it be possible to jailbreak this device and put current Android OS on it and download some specific apps?
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I would like to jailbreak this Fire and be able to add apps and use it as a dedicated device for a specific purpose. When I attempt to download the apps from the Amazon app page I see a notice that the device is not supported. I know I purchased this device in 2012 or 2013, so I know it is old.
So tell me would it be possible to jailbreak this device and put current Android OS on it and download some specific apps?
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Do you have a HD 8.9 or HDX 8.9? They are very different devices with different paths to FireOS freedom.
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Do you have a HD 8.9 or HDX 8.9? They are very different devices with different paths to FireOS freedom.
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I have the Kindle Fire HD 8.9. If I posted in the wrong thread I apologize.
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I have the Kindle Fire HD 8.9. If I posted in the wrong thread I apologize.
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No worries. You have a 2nd generation Fire HD 8.9 code named "jem". I have the 7 inch mode code named "tate". Both can be unlocked and accommodate a variety of custom ROMs. However, the path is not easy and will take a significant investment on your part to read up on techniques an caveats and then successfully apply them to your device. The following threads should prove helpful:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hd/8-9-inch-help
https://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hd/8-9-development
Alternatively, you can purchase a package that will simplify the process. This is one example:
https://www.perfectlyandroid.com
The site may look childish but the product is the real deal. That said, it is likely the support staff has moved on as 2nd generation devices haven't been sold since 2012. You may not need them but you'd probably want to confirm availability before laying down any coin.
Keep in mind this device is 6+ years old with limited capabilities even with a custom ROM. A $40 phone from WalMart will easily run circles around this pup.
Good luck.
So it would probably be better to purchase a new/newer device for what I want. I mainly want the device to use as a dedicated bible with bible apps. I have a new Kindle Fire 7 inch with a 64 GB micro SD card. But with having 20-50 books , Calibre Companion, Moon+Reader pro and one bible app takes up all memory. This is before adding any additional purchases from the bible app. I have it where apps are suppose to be stored on the SD card but that does not help. I honestly hate getting rid of this Kindle Fire 8.9 since it is still working and holds a charge. I admit that I have side loaded most of the apps I want but I can't get one app to login so my info/notes will sync. This is why I thought about jailbreaking the device to see if I could get a new version of the app installed. Maybe I wold be better off searching for a refurbished iPad or buying a new Kindle Fire 8 or 10 inch. Something to think about.
Thanks so much for the help.
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So it would probably be better to purchase a new/newer device for what I want. I mainly want the device to use as a dedicated bible with bible apps. I have a new Kindle Fire 7 inch with a 64 GB micro SD card. But with having 20-50 books , Calibre Companion, Moon+Reader pro and one bible app takes up all memory. This is before adding any additional purchases from the bible app. I have it where apps are suppose to be stored on the SD card but that does not help. I honestly hate getting rid of this Kindle Fire 8.9 since it is still working and holds a charge. I admit that I have side loaded most of the apps I want but I can't get one app to login so my info/notes will sync. This is why I thought about jailbreaking the device to see if I could get a new version of the app installed. Maybe I wold be better off searching for a refurbished iPad or buying a new Kindle Fire 8 or 10 inch. Something to think about.
Thanks so much for the help.
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Installing a different Android version on any of the Amazon Fire's requires a custom rom.
Installing a custom rom requires either a unlocked bootloader or root access.
None of the 5th gen or newer have any means of unlocking the bootloader, and only the 7th gen HD 10 has a root method, but no custom roms.
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Installing a different Android version on any of the Amazon Fire's requires a custom rom.
Installing a custom rom requires either a unlocked bootloader or root access.
None of the 5th gen or newer have any means of unlocking the bootloader, and only the 7th gen HD 10 has a root method, but no custom roms.
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Please do not take my response as being smart/snarky. I honestly do not understand a word you said except I can't jailbreak any Kindle Fire that is 5th generation or newer.
Only reason I want to jail break this one is because I cannot install a couple of apps that I want.
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Please do not take my response as being smart/snarky. I honestly do not understand a word you said except I can't jailbreak any Kindle Fire that is 5th generation or newer.
Only reason I want to jail break this one is because I cannot install a couple of apps that I want.
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Jailbreak is an iPhone thing, does not apply to Android or in this case FireOS.
If is to just an apps problem, that doesn't necessarily mean you need to do any modifications like root.
The apps just do not install?
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Jailbreak is an iPhone thing, does not apply to Android or in this case FireOS.
If is to just an apps problem, that doesn't necessarily mean you need to do any modifications like root.
The apps just do not install?
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Okay I am showing how much I do not know about this stuff.
When I go to the app page at Amazon my device is not supported. The app is free so I have downloaded it and tried to sideload it. Again it will not install. I have found older versions of the app and some will install but they will not allow me to login and sync my info. I can login to the apps website via the device without any problems. The Wi-Fi signal is strong so that is not the problem. On my Kindle Fire purchased in July (used for digital books) the apps installs easily and I am able to log in.
Yes I know it would be easier to just put the app on the newer Kindle but the screen is smaller and some of the older adults at church enjoy seeing/reading all the different versions I pull up on the Bible. I just want to put the app on the larger screen Kindle and make it easier for everyone to see.
Have any developments been made in regards to custom ROMs on this latest Fire tablet? It is on sale today for only $60, and I'd love to pick on up, but Fire OS . Sorry if this has been asked or answered before, I'm new to the form. I've been looking around, but have only found this thread which doesn't get very far. Thanks.
There is no root or unlock yet. There are no custom roms.
Deal of the day
I imagine some folks will end up here today due to the Amazon deal-of-the-day which includes the new Fire 8:
https://www.amazon.com/All-New-Fire-HD-8-Tablet/dp/B07TMJ1R3X/ref=gbps_tit_s-5_4e18_dde99212
If it was rooted this would have been a great time to pick up some of these... alas.
Maybe an XDA dev wants to try his luck on rooting one of these on the cheap(er)?
Any News?
Also got one of these, hoping to put a clean ROM on this thing
With these now being a hot sales item, I hope dev interest will increase and we can get root and custom roms.
Until such time we learn/find a way to root our HD8/+ Gen 10 ... I say say that the latest Toolkit here (V8.2) has been pretty good for me ... ads blocked, OTA disabled/stopped, Google Play Store running & other apps sideloaded, Nova Launcher working - it's my one-handed device to watch Smart Youtube TV and Vanced Youtube - quick email checks, etc. Fairly responsive and a very good investment for $50 shipped (my net cost) - slightly faster CPU & extra battery run time, bonus icing.
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Until such time we learn/find a way to root our HD8/+ Gen 10 ... I say say that the latest Toolkit here (V8.2) has been pretty good for me ... ads blocked, OTA disabled/stopped, Google Play Store running & other apps sideloaded, Nova Launcher working - it's my one-handed device to watch Smart Youtube TV and Vanced Youtube - quick email checks, etc. Fairly responsive and a very good investment for $50 shipped (my net cost) - slightly faster CPU & extra battery run time, bonus icing.
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sorry, could you link the toolkit here? I'd send you a PM but I think it might be interesting also for other that end up here.
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sorry, could you link the toolkit here? I'd send you a PM but I think it might be interesting also for other that end up here.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/development/official-amazon-fire-toolbox-v1-0-t3889604
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Until such time we learn/find a way to root our HD8/+ Gen 10 ... I say say that the latest Toolkit here (V8.2) has been pretty good for me ... ads blocked, OTA disabled/stopped, Google Play Store running & other apps sideloaded, Nova Launcher working - it's my one-handed device to watch Smart Youtube TV and Vanced Youtube - quick email checks, etc. Fairly responsive and a very good investment for $50 shipped (my net cost) - slightly faster CPU & extra battery run time, bonus icing.
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Happy you are satisfied, BUT us hackers & other curious folks demand the LineageOS experience
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Also got one of these, hoping to put a clean ROM on this thing
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Any updates? Happy T-Day, btw
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Any updates? Happy T-Day, btw
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I’m afraid not. My device is also pretty usable after the “treatment” with toolkit, nevertheless I’d still appreciate the chance of installing another OS. I see many people online are asking if there’s any update, I’d even invest my own time in finding a way to root it… if only I had the knowledge to do it I’m afraid no Pro user owns such a device and therefore there is nobody searching for a way to unlock it.
does fire 8 plus support vietnamese language?
anynews for this Onyx?
Any news here? I'm kind of surprised the KFONWI has been out over two years and nobody's been able to get LineageOS working.
Amen. LineageOS on KFONWI would be ideal!
If someone could teach me how to build a custom rom and how to unlock the bootloader and stuff on this amazon tablet, I would totally maintain a build for this rom. I hate FireOS, and since I have no idea how to do anything on android, I don't know how to build roms and stuff.
I'm debating on picking up the Fire HD 10 2021 edition during Prime Day sale. Are there ways to put actual android OS rom on it or just adding Play store, google services and stuff with the toolkit. Typically I'd try to do more research but time is a bit limited on the sale so any help would be appreciated. I use to flash roms on phones in the past and just curious if there is any support or ability to do that with the Fire HD tablets. Thanks in advance!
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I'm debating on picking up the Fire HD 10 2021 edition during Prime Day sale. Are there ways to put actual android OS rom on it or just adding Play store, google services and stuff with the toolkit. Typically I'd try to do more research but time is a bit limited on the sale so any help would be appreciated. I use to flash roms on phones in the past and just curious if there is any support or ability to do that with the Fire HD tablets. Thanks in advance!
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Here's the thing with loading custom roms on any 2019 or newer fire tablet nowadays. No one's been able to find any exploits on the tablets because Amazon has been cracking down on the MediaTek exploits that we would usually be able to use. Especially with the newer OS, I really don't think that anyone will find anything that they can do with unlocking the bootloader and flashing a new ROM since it's basically all been patched.
In terms of Google Play Services and apps, I haven't tried this on the HD 10 2021, but it is most likely possible because I use them just fine on my HD 8 Plus 2020 running the same operating system. So Google Play Store is (most likely) achievable. Hope this helps!
Are the Amazon Fire tablets rootable at all? Able to Magisk? I would like to get into rooting and was hopping we could with this device
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Are the Amazon Fire tablets rootable at all? Able to Magisk? I would like to get into rooting and was hopping we could with this device
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Well, yes and no. I know that sounds pretty vague, but it's because it really depends on the tablets.
So recently, people haven't been able to find any exploits that will give them root access to newer tablets, and without an unlockable bootloader, Magisk is definitley out of the question.
On some of the older tablets, as you probably have already seen, there are unlockable bootloaders, but this involves a lot of work to the tablet in terms of software and it isn't as simple as a command like "fastboot oem unlock" (unfortunately).
Basically, I don't think that root will be possible on the HD 10 2021, or at least anytime soon, because the rooting on the older tablets were done by finding exploits in the CPU and Preloader, and then using those exploits to use a hacked bootloader and recovery, and then those would patch the OS to allow you to mod those as much as possible, including giving you the ability to root. Amazon has patched these exploits and no one has been able to use one of the more popular "temporary" root solutions (mtk-su) with the newer tablets since the 2019 HD 10.
So, for now at least, you'll be out of luck.
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I'm debating on picking up the Fire HD 10 2021 edition during Prime Day sale. Are there ways to put actual android OS rom on it or just adding Play store, google services and stuff with the toolkit. Typically I'd try to do more research but time is a bit limited on the sale so any help would be appreciated. I use to flash roms on phones in the past and just curious if there is any support or ability to do that with the Fire HD tablets. Thanks in advance!
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Did you buy that Fire? I did. Then I immediately ran Fire Toolox (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/windows-tool-fire-toolbox) to make it run like normal Android.
One thing you'll find is that, even though you're able to install the Play Store and do a few more things with the ToolBox, any Amazon tablet running their Fire OS 7.x.x.x versions won't be able to do much with Google apps having to do with communications, that use push notifications (such as Hangouts or Chat). Something likely to do with how Google Play Services is working or interacting with Fire OS. It just won't allow it to work.
I've got Google Chat installed on my 2019 9th gen HD 10 and it had been able to be used to read and respond to received posts, just no notifications on incoming (I relied on another straight Android device for alerts). But sometime in the past two weeks an update to either Chat or (probably) Play Services occurred that makes Chat immediately close when I attempt to open an existing conversation. Bad news since Google is finally announcing the impending shutdown of the IM portion of Hangouts. Hoping to find out more about that on this forum.
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Did you buy that Fire? I did. Then I immediately ran Fire Toolox (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/windows-tool-fire-toolbox) to make it run like normal Android.
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Did same
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Did same
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This is not an option anymore to disable ads on the lockscreen??