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[Q] Switching from an M8 to a OnePlus.

Hi,
I'm considering switching from my HTC ONE M8 to a OnePlus. Has anyone made this switch? If so are you happy with your decision? Do you prefer the OnePlus over the M8 after using it for a while?
Thanks in advance.

My opinion won't be popular here, but I made the opposite switch (OnePlus One to One M8) and I am much happier with the One M8. I don't think it's a good idea to switch from any current flagship to the OnePlus One. At the very best, it's a sidegrade. If you had a One M7 a better argument could be made for trying the OnePlus One.

Yeah, If I'm honest The M8 is the best phone I've ever owned. My previous phone was a G3 and a Nexus 5 before that. I just like a change now and then. Plus the camera is poor on my M8. I realize HTC are said to be announcing another M8 tomorrow with a better camera, but I refuse to buy the new M8 just because HTC have decided to do what they should have done in the first place - Upgrade the camera.
Thank you for your reply.

I've switched to the OnePlus one from the M8. Better camera, stable CM as stock, larger screen, no on screen nav bar.
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Yeah it's the screen size and camera that are making me seriously consider it.

I think I'm just going to wait for the Nexus 6.

Earlier this summer I had wanted to upgrade to the One from my Nexus 4, but was put off by the whole invite thing. So I bought a Find 7a, but returned it because of the yellow tint problem and got an M8. A month later I get this system invite out of the blue and figured I should jump on it and decide later which one I preferred. So I'm kinda in the same boat. Don't have my hands on the One yet, so the deciding factor may be (again) the yellow tint factor. I love the M8, although the camera sucks, but the price point of the One is hard to ignore.

bruce7373 said:
Earlier this summer I had wanted to upgrade to the One from my Nexus 4, but was put off by the whole invite thing. So I bought a Find 7a, but returned it because of the yellow tint problem and got an M8. A month later I get this system invite out of the blue and figured I should jump on it and decide later which one I preferred. So I'm kinda in the same boat. Don't have my hands on the One yet, so the deciding factor may be (again) the yellow tint factor. I love the M8, although the camera sucks, but the price point of the One is hard to ignore.
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The camera is bad on the M8, it's hard to appreciate just how bad until you've used it isn't it. I'm not sure if I should go for the OnePlus or hold out and see what the Nexus 6 brings. I do really like my M8 it's just the camera that lets it down. Sense is also great.

Nothing can really beat the OPO for the price. I came from the M7, cameras on the latest HTC flagships have not been that great, but this phone has it all pretty much. You get a great camera, large screen, specs as good as the latest flagships, and cyanongenmod. Then, if you're someone who roots their phones, you can pretty much get the very best out of this phone. I'd totally recommend it.
With the yellow tint issue, I heard the ones made after August don't have it anymore? I'm not sure though, if someone can confirm that would be great. Just giving my 2 cents.

PaoloMix09 said:
Nothing can really beat the OPO for the price. I came from the M7, cameras on the latest HTC flagships have not been that great, but this phone has it all pretty much. You get a great camera, large screen, specs as good as the latest flagships, and cyanongenmod. Then, if you're someone who roots their phones, you can pretty much get the very best out of this phone. I'd totally recommend it.
With the yellow tint issue, I heard the ones made after August don't have it anymore? I'm not sure though, if someone can confirm that would be great. Just giving my 2 cents.
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Thanks for the reply. What's the battery life like on the OPO? That yellowing of the screen issue I keep reading about is concerning though, It wouldn't be so bad if you could get the phone replaced quickly, but from what I've read there would be a pretty long wait for a replacement.

Diesel779 said:
Thanks for the reply. What's the battery life like on the OPO? That yellowing of the screen issue I keep reading about is concerning though, It wouldn't be so bad if you could get the phone replaced quickly, but from what I've read there would be a pretty long wait for a replacement.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753354
Many people shared their experiences with the battery on the OPO on that thread. Check it out. In my case, yesterday I went from like 11am to 10pm down to 20% on 51% screen consuming. I don't use my brightness on auto so that drains battery a little more probably. I use my phone heavily as well so those results were great and it usually is like that. ROM I use is Vanir with franco kernel.

PaoloMix09 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753354
Many people shared their experiences with the battery on the OPO on that thread. Check it out. In my case, yesterday I went from like 11am to 10pm down to 20% on 51% screen consuming. I don't use my brightness on auto so that drains battery a little more probably. I use my phone heavily as well so those results were great and it usually is like that. ROM I use is Vanir with franco kernel.
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Thanks again. I'll check out that thread now.

Diesel779 said:
Thanks again. I'll check out that thread now.
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Just for reference, on my first full day with the phone I got 5 hours screen on time over 24 hours on 4G/LTE, screen brightness 70%
WIFI I got 7 hours 11 minutes over 1 day 10 hours with auto brightness.
For comparison, my M7 got 3 hours SOT on LTE and 4 hours on WIFI

I have both and for build quality, hands down the M8 but there's something missing in it and I can't pinpoint it (no its not the camera).
The 1+ doesn't really get me excited by using it. Maybe cause I'm not really a fan of Cynogen. It doesn't scream premium or even command a second look!
I miss my Nexus 5 to be honest!
Simple yet elegant and faster on stock KitKat than the M8 is on GPE or Sense and more exciting to use than the 1+....
HTC One M8

i had m8 and switch to the oneplus one. things i like about oneplus one ,great camera with 4k video recording,great battery life about 1 more hr screen time than m8 ,speakers are loud and sound great,not like the m8 but sound pretty good, that 5.5 inch display is great,feel on hand ,cm11s with themes that you can make it look like m8 if u want.
now the great things about the m8 are Speakers , camera shutter speed is pretty fast to take pics ,many roms ,screen .

I was thinking about either the M8,Nexus X, or OnePlus One. I had an M7 at the time and I loved the phone, I had it running at 2.1Ghz, was getting great battery life and loved the build quality. This all lead me to heavily look into the M8 but I saw that the camera wasn't really upgraded if at all. Looking at the trend of Nexus devices pretty much none of the devices have had great battery life, and had average cameras.
What lead me to the OnePlus was the availability of getting it now vs the headache launch of the Nexus X, good enough screen (wanted bigger than my M7), good camera, great battery life, and the abundance of AOSP ROM's with some solid developers backing this phone up. So far I've had it less than a week and the screen size feels fantastic. I will probably never use a phone < 5.5 inches again. I can also use any app I want and not worry too much about battery life because of how good the battery life is. I'm using Mahdi/Franco atm and it feels great. While the speed is not a HUGE upgrade from my m7, it's able to multitask much better and handle a load of processes without flinching, while with the M7 you could feel the weight of processes running in the background. I also have no yellow banding, and no real touch screen issues that I've heard some people complain about.

i did this. switched from One M8 to OPO last week. i love both devices, but i like the screen size on the OPO better
that said, anyone interested in an M8? i have one up on swappa

M8 better device. I have both

they are both awesome, it depends on personal choice, and price XD

The one concern I have with the OPO is if I ever needed a replacement they just don't seem to have any ready so it would possibly be a long wait.

Screen Flickering Problem and other Display Issues

I am about to buy a NEXUS 6P. I heard the display is made by samsung and indeed its a AMOLED display. I come from a S5 with very bad flickering problems especially in cold environment, now being hard even to turn on the screen.
So i just want to ask if any of you, have any flickering problems with NEXUS 6P, at low brigthness, max britghtness, when turning the display on etc?
Do any of you have these or other problems and issues with NEXUS 6P display like S5-S6-S7 ?

RootNightmareX said:
I am about to buy a NEXUS 6P. I heard the display is made by samsung and indeed its a AMOLED display. I come from a S5 with very bad flickering problems especially in cold environment, now being hard even to turn on the screen.
So i just want to ask if any of you, have any flickering problems with NEXUS 6P, at low brigthness, max britghtness, when turning the display on etc?
Do any of you have these or other problems and issues with NEXUS 6P display like S5-S6-S7 ?
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Hi, I have had a nexus 6p for around half a year and i have experienced no problems at all and buying this phone was one of my best decisions ever as it is so powerful and great even against 2016 flagships and is one of the most if not the most active when it comes to awesome mods and hacks like Ross and charge speed improvement mods etc. I 100% recommend you get a nexus 6p as it is an amazing phone and considered the best to some people and is very affordable. I hope this helps your decision and if you have any questions let me know as I am very experienced with this device. Also Merry Christmas, boxing day and new year.?

No flickering issues with custom Roms... Had my Nexus 6p for a year.

galaxys said:
No flickering issues with custom Roms... Had my Nexus 6p for a year.
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Yeah, custom roms are so useful as they fix lots of the bugs that the main devs have not sorted.

On stock ROM I used to experience some kind of white flash if I turned the screen on "very fast" (don't know how to really describe this). But now on PN and everything seems pretty good so far.

DEVILOPS 007 said:
Hi, I have had a nexus 6p for around half a year and i have experienced no problems at all and buying this phone was one of my best decisions ever as it is so powerful and great even against 2016 flagships and is one of the most if not the most active when it comes to awesome mods and hacks like Ross and charge speed improvement mods etc. I 100% recommend you get a nexus 6p as it is an amazing phone and considered the best to some people and is very affordable. I hope this helps your decision and if you have any questions let me know as I am very experienced with this device. Also Merry Christmas, boxing day and new year.?
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If you are experience, hope you can help me with this, I want to buy either a 6P or a 6S( non-PLUS), and i want a device that holds on for at least 3 years, and have a good battery. So which one should i go with? I am an android fan but if the 6s has a better battery and can resists over more years i will switch to iOS? So which one is the way to go? (considering the news about fast degradation batterys on 6P)

RootNightmareX said:
If you are experience, hope you can help me with this, I want to buy either a 6P or a 6S( non-PLUS), and i want a device that holds on for at least 3 years, and have a good battery. So which one should i go with? I am an android fan but if the 6s has a better battery and can resists over more years i will switch to iOS? So which one is the way to go? (considering the news about fast degradation batterys on 6P)
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Hi, I think the nexus 6p is very good for battery life and the battery life is more likely to last longer than the 6. Depending on what mods like roms and kernels you use you could actually get 6-8 hours screen on time. My battery health is at 100% and I use my device quite heavily. If battery life is important to you then rooting your device and modding it is important.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....s/5hak45/68_hour_sot_setup_on_711_custom_rom/

DEVILOPS 007 said:
Hi, I think the nexus 6p is very good for battery life and the battery life is more likely to last longer than the 6. Depending on what mods like roms and kernels you use you could actually get 6-8 hours screen on time. My battery health is at 100% and I use my device quite heavily. If battery life is important to you then rooting your device and modding it is important.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....s/5hak45/68_hour_sot_setup_on_711_custom_rom/
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So if i want battery should i go with 6p or 6s? i saw both have random shutdowns even at 50%. Can you help me decide?

RootNightmareX said:
So if i want battery should i go with 6p or 6s? i saw both have random shutdowns even at 50%. Can you help me decide?
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For battery it doesn't really matter. However if you decide to use a custom rom and kernel then the N nexus 6p then the battery is much better. I recommend getting the nexus 6p and I havent noticed any shutdown problems myself but have experienced bootlooped from ios updates in the past and plus jailbreak is nowhere near as good as root if you are into that. For power, customisability and battery go with the nexus 6p. Hope this helps

i too came from an S5 to a 6p, less than a month ago... with the same S5 intermittent green screen / black screen issues that you are having
my first non-galaxy phone, and i'm really impressed!
still getting used to the size, but it's so worth it!

DEVILOPS 007 said:
For battery it doesn't really matter. However if you decide to use a custom rom and kernel then the N nexus 6p then the battery is much better. I recommend getting the nexus 6p and I havent noticed any shutdown problems myself but have experienced bootlooped from ios updates in the past and plus jailbreak is nowhere near as good as root if you are into that. For power, customisability and battery go with the nexus 6p. Hope this helps
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And if i want a phone that holds on for more years which one should i go with 6P or 6s?

RootNightmareX said:
And if i want a phone that holds on for more years which one should i go with 6P or 6s?
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Definitely nexus 6p. Whether this is true or not ios devices have been rumoured to be designed to deliberately detiriate over time so new ones are bought. Most android phones can manage something like 5 years before they get bad. Ios devices last a year if you are lucky at their full potential.
Android devices are undoubtedly built more powerful and better at staying good over years. Hopefully this helps, if you have any questions even about roms and rooting or anything please let me know.

DEVILOPS 007 said:
Definitely nexus 6p. Whether this is true or not ios devices have been rumoured to be designed to deliberately detiriate over time so new ones are bought. Most android phones can manage something like 5 years before they get bad. Ios devices last a year if you are lucky at their full potential.
Android devices are undoubtedly built more powerful and better at staying good over years. Hopefully this helps, if you have any questions even about roms and rooting or anything please let me know.
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This is the thing, i had 3 android devices and neither one has resisted more than 1,5years, and i have taken good care of them. I only have an iOS device an iPad which has nearly 4 years and still going smooth.
I just looked at Apple support that support his devices for more than 4 years. Still you recommand me to go for a Nexus 6p despite all these things i told you?

RootNightmareX said:
This is the thing, i had 3 android devices and neither one has resisted more than 1,5years, and i have taken good care of them. I only have an iOS device an iPad which has nearly 4 years and still going smooth.
I just looked at Apple support that support his devices for more than 4 years. Still you recommand me to go for a Nexus 6p despite all these things i told you?
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Yes I do still recommend it. Either you were unlucky or the phones were just not that great in that category. The nexus 6p was made by Huawei and Google so you can tell that it will be a good phone. Trust me when I say this. You will not regret choosing the nexus 6p and I promise you if you are careful with it it will last years. Hopefully this helps. Custom roms can help extend your phones life.

DEVILOPS 007 said:
Yes I do still recommend it. Either you were unlucky or the phones were just not that great in that category. The nexus 6p was made by Huawei and Google so you can tell that it will be a good phone. Trust me when I say this. You will not regret choosing the nexus 6p and I promise you if you are careful with it it will last years. Hopefully this helps. Custom roms can help extend your phones life.
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So then i should pass the iphone, it only remains me to choose between S7 and 6P. I had big problems with the flickering on S5 and i heard the problems persists for S6 and S7 too. Any advice on this?

RootNightmareX said:
So then i should pass the iphone, it only remains me to choose between S7 and 6P. I had big problems with the flickering on S5 and i heard the problems persists for S6 and S7 too. Any advice on this?
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I have heard these problems too and I recommend the nexus for many reasons such as better speakers, home button fingerprint scanner, camera and much more.
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/mobil...iphone-6s-vs-nexus-6p-googles-nexus-dominates
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-6p-vs-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-689116/
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I have heard these problems too and I recommend the nexus for many reasons such as better speakers, home button fingerprint scanner, camera and much more.
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/mobil...iphone-6s-vs-nexus-6p-googles-nexus-dominates
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-6p-vs-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-689116/
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In the end it depends what you want from your phone but I would highly highly recommended the nexus 6p over ios and S7. Hope this helps ?

Need To Move On

Battery on my Release Day N6 is dying. Only charges on the Turbo Charge and drains way to fast.
I can move on and the Pixel XL looks like my best option, (I'm not in love wit the Pixel) because the Moto Z Force will never have root and that's a great phone.
OR
My buddy does phone repair and has the heat gun, tools etc and I can swap batteries with another N6 I have that the screen is shattered on. But It'd be a week before I can get to his house :/
Truth is, I'm ready for a new phone. What do YOU guys think, is there one I'm missing that I can love as much as the N6, or just fix mine and hope VZW gets the Zenfone AR if it ever gets released?

I just got oneplus 3t just for the time being. Honestly, it is one of the best phone for the price. Had honor 8 briefly, but I'm not a fan of EMUI 5.0. plus honor U.S.A is pretty slow rolling out the software update.
Oneplus is pretty fast on updating their software. I mean at the end of the day, Its kinda ridiculous to spend $650 and up for a smartphone nowadays.
Oh and I still have my nexus 6 as my back up, the phone is still getting the job done for my usage.

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I just got oneplus 3t just for the time being. Honestly, it is one of the best phone for the price. Had honor 8 briefly, but I'm not a fan of EMUI 5.0. plus honor U.S.A is pretty slow rolling out the software update.
Oneplus is pretty fast on updating their software. I mean at the end of the day, Its kinda ridiculous to spend $650 and up for a smartphone nowadays.
Oh and I still have my nexus 6 as my back up, the phone is still getting the job done for my usage.
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OnePlus is not an option on Verizon

Nexus 6 batteries are between $12 & $20 on Amazon. That's pretty cheap. I think it's worth the trouble. There's some YouTube videos on changing that battery and it doesn't look too difficult. Plus you have an extra Nexus 6 to practice on if I'm reading the OP correctly.

bigbaluka said:
Nexus 6 batteries are between $12 & $20 on Amazon. That's pretty cheap. I think it's worth the trouble. There's some YouTube videos on changing that battery and it doesn't look too difficult. Plus you have an extra Nexus 6 to practice on if I'm reading the OP correctly.
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That's the way I'm gonna go. I really don't want a Pixel, unless someone finds root for the Droid Z Force or that Asus comes to Verizon

Nexus 6p or buy another Nexus 6

HipKat said:
That's the way I'm gonna go. I really don't want a Pixel, unless someone finds root for the Droid Z Force or that Asus comes to Verizon
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I still love my shamu 64GB I plan on changing my battery whenever it stops holding a charge. All rechargeable batteries have a finite number of times they can be charged before they start acting the way yours is now. Once your battery is replaced with a quality replacement you'll likely be good for a couple of years and shamu is still an awesome device in my opinion. I'm a little apprehensive about changing my own Nexus 6 battery but when the time comes I'm gonna give it a try. Let us know how it goes.

@HipKat don't go for Nexus 5x or 6p as both suffers from some hardware related bootloop issue. Just go to their respective forums and anyone can have a look at the Q&A section. Not worth the trouble as the phone is bound to randomly die at some point.
If those are your only option and you won't change carrier to get a OnePlus 3T, then I would go for one of the Pixels as they at least has good custom ROM support. If you don't care about custom ROM support then it's up to your preference.

Arju said:
@HipKat don't go for Nexus 5x or 6p as both suffers from some hardware related bootloop issue. Just go to their respective forums and anyone can have a look at the Q&A section. Not worth the trouble as the phone is bound to randomly die at some point.
If those are your only option and you won't change carrier to get a OnePlus 3T, then I would go for one of the Pixels as they at least has good custom ROM support. If you don't care about custom ROM support then it's up to your preference.
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Believe me, custom development is a HUGE factor and I wouldn't go for an old phone.
@bigbaluka I watched a few vids and it seems decent. Like I posted, my buddy has all the tools. We work for Dish Network and he's one of the guys that does screen repair and battery replacement for iPhone and Samsung devices. (Don'tr ask me WHY Dish is doing this....)

HipKat said:
Believe me, custom development is a HUGE factor and I wouldn't go for an old phone.
@bigbaluka I watched a few vids and it seems decent. Like I posted, my buddy has all the tools. We work for Dish Network and he's one of the guys that does screen repair and battery replacement for iPhone and Samsung devices. (Don'tr ask me WHY Dish is doing this....)
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I'm not sure I'd replace the 6 for a 6p or a 5X. I got a 5X and it was more for the size, but I can't say it overperforms the 6 plus there are the potential bootloop issues. The Pixel is OK, but you'll be paying up big time and esp if you are not really keen about it, it's a decent chunk of money to drop down. Sounds like you like your 6, I'd just try and replace the battery since it sounds like that's the only issue. It were different if it was a broken screen or something else, but battery I'd just do that.

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I'm not sure I'd replace the 6 for a 6p or a 5X. I got a 5X and it was more for the size, but I can't say it overperforms the 6 plus there are the potential bootloop issues. The Pixel is OK, but you'll be paying up big time and esp if you are not really keen about it, it's a decent chunk of money to drop down. Sounds like you like your 6, I'd just try and replace the battery since it sounds like that's the only issue. It were different if it was a broken screen or something else, but battery I'd just do that.
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Yeah, agreed. I did 2 things, found a different USB cable, which looks like it solved the charging problem and switched to Dark Rom which seems to have amazing battery life. I think it'll still drain faster until I get the battery switched, so I must have had a few problems going on; bad cable, deteriorating ROM and battery that doesn't hold a charge like It used to

While my N6 isn't quick as old as yours, I have definitely noticed a lag of late. Taking pictures especially.
And while it might be nowhere near the same class as the N6, I think the Moto G5 Plus might be a good replacement. Sure, the screen size is considerably smaller, it lacks dual front-facing speakers, NFC, etc. but that price! I like the design, and as the kernel source code has already been released, my hope is that the dev community will build some nice roms for this little guy.
We'll see what Motorola does with the true Moto X replacement (not the "Is it a Moto X or is it a Moto E" we are seeing). But that Moto G5 Plus price is hard to ignore.
I just think the Pixel is too expensive. They might solve all of the issues with the release of the Pixel 2, but who wants to spend $1k on a phone?

@Fvolfrine and others:
Lag when starting the camera is a feature of Android from around KitKat or so. The ram that the camera needs is made available for other use, and then the camera has to wait for it to be released.
It makes other apps faster, but the start of the camera significantly shower. You may agree or disagree with that trade-off, but as far as I know, it's the same on all recent phones. Though of course, it matters less if the phone has a lot of ram.
From what I read, the Moto G5 plus has hardware that is approximately as powerful as the N6. So the only way it can have less lag is if its rom is better optimized - and while that may be the case for the stock roms, the N6 has a large community of devs that provide greatly optimized roms.

@runekock - my lag isn't so much when starting the camera as it is when taking a picture. Even with HDR+ turned off, it takes 4-5 seconds for the picture to take. I've had this same experience on stock, and now on PureNexus, which I flashed about five days ago.

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@runekock - my lag isn't so much when starting the camera as it is when taking a picture. Even with HDR+ turned off, it takes 4-5 seconds for the picture to take. I've had this same experience on stock, and now on PureNexus, which I flashed about five days ago.
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There is no lag when using a custom kernel. Try using a kernel different from stock.
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Few weeks ago I wasn't able to turn on wifi any more. After factory reset and cache wipe I got it to turn on few times then it died again. I'm suspecting a hw problem. Now that Dark Rom is available for our phone, I might try my luck with that, but I'm not very optimistic.
I really liked this phone a lot. Now I have the option of getting new motherboard for 50€ or new phone (looking at iPhone 6s Plus or 7 Plus cause of that mega battery and brightness, but that price tho.. Was also looking at Pixel but I read it has too many problems + warranty outside my country).
Is Nexus 6 worth fixing (for 50€ + risk of messing something up during repair)?

For 50€ i would take the risk.

Used Nexus 6s still went for over US$100 last time I looked at ebay. If fixing one is $20, that seems a decent investment to me. My battery is about worn out so I will be doing just that soon.
If there are ever charging issues or USB cords falling out, check for lint in the USB port. My first N6 had that issue.

I started having charging issues with my 2 year old shamu a few months ago, getting a new oem charger fixed the problem for me and it's still going strong. I've got a 5x as well, but it doesn't get used much, shamu is a better device.

gonna add my own experience to the mix hoping it would be helpful to some, My N6's battery also started showing signs of a problem few month back after maybe more than a year of usage and it got worse over time. the problem is i cannot get my hand on a new battery anytime soon and i cannot use my N6 as a daily driver as it just dies randomly so i thought i go for the Galaxy S7 since the price was dropped prior to S8 launch and i did, but oh my, going from a heavily developed phone like N6 to S7 is really boring and no fun, might have just got an iphone and it would be just as dull.
so, if you gonna give up your N6 i suggest replace it with another nexus/pixel phone. but if you gonna keep it as a second phone (for whatever reason) then its up to you and your desires and needs, and ofc you cannot forget about the price tag.

Long term Pixel opinion?

What's your opinion of this phone now that it's been out for more than six months?
Build quality, development, etc.
Compared to previous phones or compared to whatever your expectations might have been.
Me?
I'm sorry to say that I wish I never left my Moto X Pure with BrokenOS' MarshMallow ROM.
Pixel is great though, in many ways.

It was a much needed update from my aging Nexus 6.
Was briefly contemplating iPhone, but stuck with the Pixel.
Overall, I love the camera, the battery is a champ, and so far I feel no need or want to modify the device.
I think google did well with this one.
Let's hope LG doesn't botch the next one.
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What's your opinion of this phone now that it's been out for more than six months?
Build quality, development, etc.
Compared to previous phones or compared to whatever your expectations might have been.
Me?
I'm sorry to say that I wish I never left my Moto X Pure with BrokenOS' MarshMallow ROM.
Pixel is great though, in many ways.
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It's the cherry ? bomb. Like all my Google phones.
Unprecedented battery life.
Fast as Lightning (Especially w/sdcardfs)
No cracks or damage.
Best reception I have ever had.
Extremely challenging to hack. Very easy once you have the slots and Google stops playing games. Lol
Speaker sucks. But I can live with it.
Never have and never will buy anything but a Google phone.
I can go on and on.....
BTW Moto Rocks!

I came from an S5 so anything would have been an upgrade for me. So this thing is screaming fast to me

I bought the phone after I had to send my Note 7 back. I liked it, but didn't keep it long. I've been through a few different phones in the meantime, but finally came back. It's faster than any phone I've used, and still feels really solid, and good in the hand

I came from a N6 as well. I miss the stereo speakers and the bigger screen size of the N6.
The positives of Pixel are the speed, battery life and the general smoothness of the phone.
The cons are pathetic speakers (What was google thinking?), huge bezels (which I find hard to digest coming from a lesser bezel N6) and the lack of development. On my N6 I had flashed almost 10 custom ROMs at different times.
There is hardly much choice for Pixel XL other than a handful ROMs. Perhaps the high price of the phone and the slot rigmarole turns off developers here.
I'm happy with the Pixel , but it was close to $900 and I just feel that I did not get my money's worth. That said, I can't deal with non-Google phones. Was thinking about a One Plus 5, but that's about it. Hopefully Google does something nicer with Pixel XL2.

I love stock Android and EAS is the best thing to happen to Android but..
Just can't justify the price for what you get. I'm a big Audio guy and the speaker is worst I've heard along with 3.5mm jack just sounds awful..
have to run an External DAC to make up for the poor quality
Video recording seems a bit meh blury/grainy no matter what I can't take a clear video unless it's in direct sunlight and then have to deal with the *Lense Flare* another pain in the ass
Rest of the phone is good
Development it's pretty much none existent seems like if you want roms/kernel's either stick with a 6P or OnePlus/Other China device
But I feel like it should of been priced at same as the 6P $440 we only got minor improvements nothing "WOW" to make up for the $300 extra..
I guess we paid for that "Made By Google" bs marketing. Also was never in stock anywhere + the hardware issues drove people away lets hope HTC isn't making again so we can have a great launch and hopefully bring people back :good:

liam_davenport said:
I love stock Android and EAS is the best thing to happen to Android but..
Just can't justify the price for what you get. I'm a big Audio guy and the speaker is worst I've heard along with 3.5mm jack just sounds awful..
have to run an External DAC to make up for the poor quality
Video recording seems a bit meh blury/grainy no matter what I can't take a clear video unless it's in direct sunlight and then have to deal with the *Lense Flare* another pain in the ass
Rest of the phone is good
Development it's pretty much none existent seems like if you want roms/kernel's either stick with a 6P or OnePlus/Other China device
But I feel like it should of been priced at same as the 6P $440 we only got minor improvements nothing "WOW" to make up for the $300 extra..
I guess we paid for that "Made By Google" bs marketing. Also was never in stock anywhere + the hardware issues drove people away lets hope HTC isn't making again so we can have a great launch and hopefully bring people back :good:
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I do miss the value days of the Nexus program. Minus Shamu of course. That was expensive. When I bought those Nexus, I felt like I was getting an incredible value for a smartphone.
Here is something I truly value and want everyone to think about.
How much is it worth to us for,
Monthly security updates
Major OS upgrades for two years
Bugfixes along the way

I'll tell you by saying what I've chosen as my daily driver and where my SIM card is and what's in my pocket right now. I've had marlin since Nov '16 and iPhone 7 plus since Jan '17. The marlin is in my pocket right now. The iPhone 7 plus is a great device (iMessages, waterproof) but the reason I love android is the ability to modify (stock or ROM-root-kernel) and access to that SD Card. Otherwise the 2 are pretty much equal as to camera, battery, speed, smoothness, response to touches, etc. at least in my perception. So, obviously I'm very pleased with marlin since I prefer it to a very popular alternative. Had a Samsung Galaxy S7 in early 2016 but sold it after 2 months, Pixel much better device to me.

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I came from a N6 as well. I miss the stereo speakers and the bigger screen size of the N6.
The positives of Pixel are the speed, battery life and the general smoothness of the phone.
The cons are pathetic speakers (What was google thinking?), huge bezels (which I find hard to digest coming from a lesser bezel N6) and the lack of development. On my N6 I had flashed almost 10 custom ROMs at different times.
There is hardly much choice for Pixel XL other than a handful ROMs. Perhaps the high price of the phone and the slot rigmarole turns off developers here.
I'm happy with the Pixel , but it was close to $900 and I just feel that I did not get my money's worth. That said, I can't deal with non-Google phones. Was thinking about a One Plus 5, but that's about it. Hopefully Google does something nicer with Pixel XL2.
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Agreed 100%. Thats why i skipped this one looking forward to the next one. For the price it must have stereo speaker, better audio, water resist, better design and quality. Oh and wireless charging. Then i will jump right in.
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Six month user here. And my main complaint for the Pixel remains exactly same as it was back when I bought it. The sudden freezing problem. Just out of nowhere the screen freezes for a second or two, if I am playing a game, then its done, simply over, have to restart, and I can't express how much I hate that. Of course its most noticeable/affecting while gaming, but it happens basically everywhere too, but just less frustrating in other places.
I was advised to format the phone, not root it and blah blah but exact same happened there too, without installing any apps at all! Ridiculous problem and IMHO the most annoying issue Pixels have.
Other than this, I don't know, sometimes the low light photos come with a really weird greenish cast, completely off coloured and way too much noise (yeah with HDR+ On, that's the only one I use anyway) etc.
But other than these two, I have no complaints. Tremendous call quality, more than acceptable display (though still no Apple!), excellent GPS (though Google Maps says to calibrate compass every now and then), buttery smooth interface all around most times, at max volume the loudspeaker is excellent (though at half volume it can't be heard and equally ****e!), really low SAR value etc., I am contemplating the U11 now, just for the sound and camera, but if I don't go that route I am gonna keep this phone for at least two years, and the maximum I have ever used a mobile phone was for 15 months, the Galaxy S2 back in the days, should suffice what I think about this phone.
I also have the OnePlus 3 in office, and I know some people compare it and I can say its basically Guava vs Apples comparison.
PS: Sorry didn't comment about development, but I honestly don't care much about it at all. I bought the Pixel so that I won't be needing the optimise it, let Google optimise it for me, and they did a fairly decent job, but after using Franco kernel I can say Google could have done a much better job. So that's all I need, a custom kernel.

coming from Samsung and LG devices, this phone has been a breath of fresh air even with this new partition scheme. Phone does well, battery life holds up for two days. I just have an issue with bluetooth not consistently sending music info to my radio. Some days it works, other days it's like what music info...

It's great and definitely a worthy upgrade from my Nexus 6. The only thing I miss is the front facing speakers but I didn't use them much anyways, well that and I guess it's way more slippery than my Nexus 6 because I don't use cases at all.

Couldn't be happier. Presently have a 7 Plus and the XL that I swap my sim between. IPhone is great in many ways but I just keep coming back to the Pixel XL....something about the experience I get using it that I really enjoy.
As for the other characteristics of the device others have already commented. I purchased mine at launch and received it later October.

I currently have the Nexus 6P. Damn that is a nice phone! I'm seriously doubting anything will "crush" this phones performance. But I decided I wanted to move up to the Pixel XL. I'm a decent Android gamer, so the updated GPU was nice. Plus, the camera is supposedly just that much better. Among other things, like 4GB RAM instead of the 6P's 3GB.
I don't receive the Pixel XL until Monday, so I'm wearing a path through my foyer, pacing back and forth, waiting for it to arrive.
I've spent at LEAST 30 hours this week doing research on the Pixel, its partition layout, how to get root to work, TWRP limitations, etc. This is certainly more complicated than the 6P.
Part of the reason I decided to plop down for the Pixel, was because I didn't see a lot of development going for it, as there is for the 6P. And since people seem to like my ROMs, I figured I'd toss something out there that I made, and see what kind of life it can breathe into the Pixel.
I think I'll like it. Tried it out in-hand at BestBuy yesterday. Solid device, great screen, color accuracy is actually better than the 6P, and for the first time, I kind of like the phone WITHOUT a case! Never though I'd say that.

I've used iPhones since the 3GS up until the 6S Plus (all jailbroken). I decided to try out the Nexus 6P (first ever Android phone) and fell in love with it! Custom ROMs, kernels, tweaks, Xposed, etc. were all new to me and I loved every bit of it!
However, for some reason, I decided to sell it and pick up an iPhone 7 Plus when it released. As iOS matured, security got tighter, and jailbreaking became more difficult. I got tired of waiting for a jailbreak to release and realized how locked down the OS is (when not jailbroken) compared to Android.
I sold my 7 Plus and bought this Pixel XL. I wasn't a huge fan at first, just because of the confusion with the slots and the lack of development​ compared to the 6P.
Now that there is more development and that I understand the slots better, I'm really enjoying this phone!
Overall, if I had the choice, I would still probably pick the 6P over this; that thing was just a beauty in basically every aspect, and it was the phone that first introduced me into the Android world.
Not a huge fan of the single downfiring speaker or the bottom chin, but otherwise it's a great phone, especially the camera!
I'm going to see what the OnePlus 5 has to offer, and may switch to that - but I'll definitely keep this XL around until the 2nd gen Pixels release. I'll be purchasing the second gen Pixels only if Google allows them to be development friendly like how the Nexus line was. If not, I may make a permanent switch over to the OnePlus line.

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What's your opinion of this phone now that it's been out for more than six months?
Build quality, development, etc.
Compared to previous phones or compared to whatever your expectations might have been.
Me?
I'm sorry to say that I wish I never left my Moto X Pure with BrokenOS' MarshMallow ROM.
Pixel is great though, in many ways.
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Well I had the LG G6, S8+, and I sent the G6 back and sold the S8+. The pixel was snappier than both, better camera than both which is a great feature having and outstanding camera, and more reliable than both. I like stock Android, clean, fast, stable. I like being able to unlock and do what I want with my phone when I want and still have the same snappiness, camera quality, and reliability on custom ROMs. Most times you sacrifice things to go custom. Not with Google devices, Nexus, Pixel, etc. I still have it since released and can't see getting rid of it any time soon. Ya, maybe people thinking of OnePlus 5, but I also had the 3 and 3T and one thing I hated about that is when using anything custom, the camera was horrible, BT for me had issues, and other little nags. All in all, this is definitely my go to device and I've had many.

I give it a C+
After having the Pixel XL since I returned the Note 7 (Best phone I've ever owned IMO), There are issues with it that really bug me.
- For one, Youtube stutters and desyncs the audio from the video almost every video I watch, and I watch a lot of YT.
- Second, the bluetooth does not sync right in my Audi, and every 15 minutes it sounds like a modem for like 20 seconds and reconnects. It also doesn't know what to do on voice calls and frequently bounce back and forth between car speakers, and phone speaker mode, so I just turn it off for voice or Hangouts/Meet calls in the car.
- Third, the battery life has been dwindling over time, so I charge twice a day now. Yes, I'm a power user and need at least 6-8 hours of screen on time per day. That being said the phone charging speed is ridiculously fast. I can charge at least 50% in 30 minutes.
- The speakers are crap, and the audio jack doesn't give me enough volume. The setting between say 60-65% volume is way too loud, so the volume curve is not good.
-As a pro, the Camera is excellent, even in low light if you know what you're doing. The video, if you use the auto stability is crap so just don't use it.
The phone does stutter, and take a while sometimes. I am using the stock ROM, and have made no modifications to the file system or home screen at all. As is, this phone is average, so for the price, not worth it. I do have the Verizon version, and not sure if that makes a difference. Can't wait for the Note 8 to come out.

I've had mine since November and still love it. I came from the G7 edge which I was quite fond of as well. The following are the good things that keep me on the Pixel.
- Camera, for stills easily the best available. Wish the EIS didn't cause the jello effect when panning while video recording, but nonetheless I've been quite pleased with the camcorder as well.
- Software, clean, simple, fluid and robust. I am on stock unrooted. I reboot my phone once a month for updates and the phone never lags, gets janky or develops issues requiring a reboot. Additionally, the speed of updates means I'm always up to date with the most secure version​ of Android available.

I've had my Pixel XL 128gb since launch. I came from a Note 7, so was very challenging to get used to having a very lean software base which didn't offer many features in comparison to the Samsung series. I missed many software features from the Note 7.
The thing that gets me the most, is that I was already bored of the device 6 months in. I usually hold onto a phone for 12-24 months. The Note 4 I held onto for the longest time (24months). I enjoyed it as there were both android OS updates, and touchwiz updates, so it constantly got a new lease to life looking fresh or having new features. 8 months on and the Pixel looks exactly the same, with no updates.
I also feel that the design looked dated when I bought it, but it now is really showing it's age with the HUGE bezels. I have also struggled to find any good screen protectors (I've tried them all) as they don't sit properly. The phone is huge with a smaller screen than most phones this price/size.
It's got the worst bluetooth of any phone I have every owned, partly down to Android but also to the Pixel.
Had a lot more ROM options for Samsung, being that you can go Note 4 roms, Note 5 roms, Note 7 roms, AOSP builds, CM, MIUI. I feel like the Pixel has AOSP, stock. That's it really. They are all the same with very minor changes.
Otherwise it's mostly buttery smooth - although i'm constantly keeping my eye out for a new phone, so could be the shortest period I have owned a phone for.

Is Angler still worth in 2018?

Hi all. I'm looking at a used 64gb N6P (slightly used for almost 1yr) ONLY FOR $170. original complete package. No bootloop issues (YET)
Well, I'm open for suggestions. I will use the phone as my daily driver. I'm also into rooting & custom ROMS. As for my observation, angler devs will still hold up the device for years. :fingers-crossed:
BTW, I'm coming from 32gb N6 shamu.
What do you think guys? Is it a good upgrade? Or should I buy a current $200 budget phone instead?
Thank you, and sorry if this question is old.

I also had N6 32gb shamu and just bought second hand N6P angler month ago with battery issues, i replaced the batter myself and using abc rom + elemental x with dazed 6p edition 3.1 profile. Its pretty fast and when I'm at home battery is usually at %50-60. I'm not a power user but I must say i switched for the finger print scanner and i miss N6s large screen and it was event faster too in the other hand N6P has great camera compared to N6 specially selfie one is awesome + phone feels more premium with metal back. Overall I'm happy that switched and planing to use this phone at least 1 more year.

I have literally owned 10 Nexus 6P's. Every time I try to upgrade I keep wanting my 6P again. This phone is perfect AND you get the added ability of not really needing to be TOO careful with it. A replacement is $5-600 cheaper than trying to replace a newer phone. I work on cars, so being able to not care about the phone as much when using the flash light is a plus for me. Plus its fast.

rushier.ivan said:
Hi all. I'm looking at a used 64gb N6P (slightly used for almost 1yr) ONLY FOR $170. original complete package. No bootloop issues (YET)
Well, I'm open for suggestions. I will use the phone as my daily driver. I'm also into rooting & custom ROMS. As for my observation, angler devs will still hold up the device for years. :fingers-crossed:
What do you think guys? Is it a good upgrade? Or should I buy a current $200 budget phone instead?
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The answer isn't actually simple. If you want a phone that will keep getting security updates, then an emphatic no. They are still pushing monthlies right now, but as the Android P dev preview is out and the Nexus line is no longer scheduled for any support, when the Pixel 3 drops in October, I suspect the security updates for the 6p will be dead.
So, once that happens, whatever version of most remaining updated custom ROMs are out there will likely be it. There may be the odd one who tries to kludge Android 9 onto the 6p, but when you also factor in the processor's age, it's very near EOL.
However, if you're OK with effectively staying on Oreo, for the price, it's still a good phone with a good camera. You just won't get a lot of custom ROM dev for much longer. Even in the 8 months since I was regularly using my 6p, development has dried up significantly. There are really only 3 or 4 options other than keeping it stock and doing my own customization.
I recently used an Xperia XZ Premium for about 8 months and had so many hardware failures, that I finally gave up and came back to my 6p. Aside from the noticeable performance difference with the 810 processor and a GB less of RAM, I'm actually happier using the 6p because it's better than the Xperia Xperience ever was, but that's personal preference. All I really do is use the factory image, TWRP, Magisk and then install Viper, SE Linux control and Pixel mods and the phone works the way I want.
I suspect I'll try to suck another 4 months out of the 6p then buy a Pixel 3. It'll be pricy, but stock Android, fast regular updates and a killer camera are all important to me.

ultyrunner said:
The answer isn't actually simple. If you want a phone that will keep getting security updates, then an emphatic no. They are still pushing monthlies right now, but as the Android P dev preview is out and the Nexus line is no longer scheduled for any support, when the Pixel 3 drops in October, I suspect the security updates for the 6p will be dead.
So, once that happens, whatever version of most remaining updated custom ROMs are out there will likely be it. There may be the odd one who tries to kludge Android 9 onto the 6p, but when you also factor in the processor's age, it's very near EOL.
However, if you're OK with effectively staying on Oreo, for the price, it's still a good phone with a good camera. You just won't get a lot of custom ROM dev for much longer. Even in the 8 months since I was regularly using my 6p, development has dried up significantly. There are really only 3 or 4 options other than keeping it stock and doing my own customization.
I recently used an Xperia XZ Premium for about 8 months and had so many hardware failures, that I finally gave up and came back to my 6p. Aside from the noticeable performance difference with the 810 processor and a GB less of RAM, I'm actually happier using the 6p because it's better than the Xperia Xperience ever was, but that's personal preference. All I really do is use the factory image, TWRP, Magisk and then install Viper, SE Linux control and Pixel mods and the phone works the way I want.
I suspect I'll try to suck another 4 months out of the 6p then buy a Pixel 3. It'll be pricy, but stock Android, fast regular updates and a killer camera are all important to me.
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Thank you for the response. Right, I think I can keep my shamu for a while. Maybe I'll wait for the budget pixel 3. :fingers-crossed:

Guys im wondering the same thing. I actually just got a Nexus 6P 64gb for less than 200$. I have no battery issues whatsoever but i am worried about the bootloop issues. Do you guys think i should switch phones( I still can) because of that potential issue or is the issue isolated? I mean literally every G4 eventually gets bootloop, is the Nexus 6P the same?
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I have literally owned 10 Nexus 6P's. Every time I try to upgrade I keep wanting my 6P again. This phone is perfect AND you get the added ability of not really needing to be TOO careful with it. A replacement is $5-600 cheaper than trying to replace a newer phone. I work on cars, so being able to not care about the phone as much when using the flash light is a plus for me. Plus its fast.
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Did any of those 6P's get the bootloop problem? And for how long have you tested a Nexus 6P?