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Hi guys, I'm considering upgrading the S5, but have heard that it's like the "black sheep" of the S family. Is that true? Is it a worthy upgrade for S4 users? Anyone here has any regret of getting the phone (camera quality not as good as expected, battery life too short, phone gets hot quickly,...) ? I've used numerous Android device including the Optimus one, Optimus 3D, Optimus 4x HD, Optimus GK (yeah lots of LG products), HTC 8x and currently Xperia Z1 compact, and decided to go Samsung this time. Is it the right choice at the moment (I really don't like how the S6 will be removing SD slot and removable battery and stuff...) ? Thanks in advance .
// Edit: even though I've never cared about camera quality in previous phone, I do want a good camera this time. Will the S5's camera blow me away compared to current alternatives within the price range?
From my perspective, coming from an S2, yes I am really happy with the phone. Whether you will see much performance difference between newer samsung devices (S3 & S4) and the S5....I couldn't comment......but I have read that there is not that great a difference between the S4 and S5. From the viewpoint of removable battery and expandable memory, if that is important to you, then the S5 is probably the last chance you'll have to own a Samsung device. The only potential 'fly in the ointment' with the S5 is KNOX......do your research on that, then decide if you want an S5.......
Sent from my rooted kn0x0 stocKK SM-G900F S5
Have never regretted a single moment. Upgraded from the S3 and got the 901F , everything flies , it's just on what's your daily usage,how you use it then you can be satisfied. About the camera part, I myself don't really mind about camera quality but I can say in my opinion makes me satisifed ^_^ altho there's not much dev for my model , it's good to have a phone that has removable battery , expandable memory since S6 isn't gonna provide that
@op - Most/All of the bad points you've heard about the S5 will be coming from people who upgraded to Lollipop early on / didn't factory reset after the update, KK users from everything Ive read, are very happy with the phone, I run LP and am very happy with it too
Coming from a Lumia 620, it's a massive upgrade to me and IMO, a great phone, couldn't be happier, battery life is great too
If you go looking for negative reviews of a device, you'll find them for any device no matter how good it is
I just got the phone two weeks ago but I didn't realise how hard it would be to root without tripping Knox. I've rooted all my phones in the past which involved jumping through a few hoops but this scenario is diabolical! There are so many ROM versions, so many out-of-date forum threads for all different S5 models. I think the geographical region has an effect as well. First you have to downgrade your ROM back to KitKat and then root it and then upgrade. It's an absolute minefield! I think it might be easier if you don't mind tripping the Knox warranty flag but I'm not ready to void mine.
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I just got the phone two weeks ago but I didn't realise how hard it would be to root without tripping Knox. I've rooted all my phones in the past which involved jumping through a few hoops but this scenario is diabolical! There are so many ROM versions, so many out-of-date forum threads for all different S5 models. I think the geographical region has an effect as well. First you have to downgrade your ROM back to KitKat and then root it and then upgrade. It's an absolute minefield! I think it might be easier if you don't mind tripping the Knox warranty flag but I'm not ready to void mine.
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I was the same for about 2 months, eventually got sick of waiting for a LP root method that didn't trip KNOX, and just went for it - pleased I did now
There is a question over whether or not tripping KNOX in the EU voids warranty or not too, some people say it does, some people say it doesn't and they would have to prove that flashing custom software was the cause of the fault, so if your screen stops responding, even flashing back to stock doesn't fix it, it wasn't your fault, but if you pop the speakers by modding the volume after rooting, then it is your fault, those sort of things
Recently I have used Galaxy S4, Moto G, HTC One M8 & Asend 740 ..... finally I got a Galaxy S5 (SM-G900F) with Snapdragon CPU.
I'm kind of user who doesn't play games in my smartphone, I just use it for calls Whatsapp, viber Instagram & the like apps.
to be honest yes I'm so much satisfied with the Galaxy S5 specially the great screen.
Here is a list of most notable stuff in Galaxy S5 { Kitkat 4.4.2 }
1- Camera is very nice but the images quality in low light cases & indoors are little bit noisy.
2- the UI sometimes will lag any smartphone will lag while in use ....... as you know Galaxy S5 use the Touchwize UI which it is featured rich & heavy I prefer to use feature rich UI with little lag than using light UI with very few features.
3- some time I'm having battery drain and mobile will become hot when using some Apps like viber.
4- in general battery life is very good .
in the end I love to use a new smartphone every while .......... I have used Android, Windows Phone & iOS, Galaxy S5 is a smartphone which you can keep for one or two years, it is really a smartphone you can be satisfied with it.
Yeah.....touchwiz can be a bit heavy in use, but if you replace it with a launcher like Nova or Apex (I use Nova) that can help........
And as far as games are concerned, the games I play are emulated PS1 games, and they run without ANY lag and without overheating the phone.......
Battery life on this device is better than on any other Samsung phone I've ever used......
Sent from my rooted kn0x0 stocKK SM-G900F S5
I have used all Samsung's Galaxy S series.
From Galaxy S1 to S5.
And yes, S5 is a better phone than S4.
Its build quality, battery life, Speed and features are better than S4.
Camera is almost same but doesnt focus on small objects.
+ Fingerprint, heart rate, water resistance
thank you guys @keithross39 , @fitris97 , @*Detection* , @seanspotatobusiness , @one-option, @Aafsut . I think I'll get the S5. Unfortunately where I live only the T-Mobile version is left (other variants including international 900F are sold out). But seems like the T version is one of the variants with unlocked bootloader and I don't mind having KNOX tripped (our service centers here are sh*t and they likely won't know about checking that), does that mean I can have an easier way to root the phone? I have rooted LGs and Sony in the past and they are fairly easy to do, but no experience with Samsung (Odin and stuffs)... Also the KNOX flag just voids the warranty right? No other side effect?
And I suppose I can flash most 900F ROMs on the T-Mobile version? I have asked in the T-Mobile forum and got one confirmation about Omega Rom for 900F running fine on the 900T, but just want to be extra sure
You can use odin to flash CF auto root i believe just a simple step, just find your correct model and flash it. About KNOX , if you trip it , mainly , you void your warranty as well as you can't update OTA if you want to see see whether there is an update available.
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You can use odin to flash CF auto root i believe just a simple step, just find your correct model and flash it. About KNOX , if you trip it , mainly , you void your warranty as well as you can't update OTA if you want to see see whether there is an update available.
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ARRRG I knew it! No OTA is a big bummer Guess I'll have to be careful with that KNOX thingy...
// Also, will the S5 likely to receive any other major OS upgrades? 5.1 or even higher?
Well if you trip and theres new update available you can always download the right firmware for your phone and flash it via odin no problem. Well it's up to them to release it, right now latest is lollipop 5.0? For my model its 5.0.1 so different model different timing as to releasing so probably yes? Haha
I'm in love with the hardware of the galaxy s8 so I decided I want to buy it (Although I hate Samsung Touchwiz)...
but I'm torn of which variant should I buy - the unlocked US version (with Snapdragon 835) or the international version (with Exynos 8895).
honestly I prefer the snapdragon chip for the popularity of snapdragon but I heard the unlocked US version rarely gets updates .
Another major consideration is that because I hate Samsung Touchwiz I hope (someday) a custom AOSP rom will be released for the phone (like Lineage OS), so I want a model that will get custom rom support fast...
so my question is-
Based on the above, Which model should I buy?
Furthermore, Which model probably will get root and support for custom roms first?
Thanks in advance
You will never see a working aosp rom on a samsung phone..if you hate tw.. I suggest you to run away from this phone and never look back
Well looking at S7 Edge, for some reason Snapdragon, which is usually considered as more opensourced etc than exynos, didn't receive any custom ROMS, especially AOSP. Surprisingly, Exynos did - both Lineage and ResurrectionRemix are available, however, it took time to release them, I guess it will also take some time for S8 to receive it's 'clean' Android ROMs. Not sure whether Snapdragon variant has locked bootloader, but if it is, then it may be a hard nut to crack
h4ck3r69 said:
You will never see a working aosp rom on a samsung phone..if you hate tw.. I suggest you to run away from this phone and never look back
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the Galaxy S7 got Lineage OS (after a lot of time but still)
Monnq said:
Well looking at S7 Edge, for some reason Snapdragon, which is usually considered as more opensourced etc than exynos, didn't receive any custom ROMS, especially AOSP. Surprisingly, Exynos did - both Lineage and ResurrectionRemix are available, however, it took time to release them, I guess it will also take some time for S8 to receive it's 'clean' Android ROMs. Not sure whether Snapdragon variant has locked bootloader, but if it is, then it may be a hard nut to crack
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So which model do you recommend? the international one?
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So which model do you recommend? the international one?
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If you really want custom roms then maybe you shouldn't go for samsung. First is development on exynos is a pain in the a*s for devs, second as mentioned it takes some time to develop a decent AOSP rom. But if you really want a samsung device then yeah, go for Exynos international, Qualcomm is locked and hard to tinker with.
I would like to buy a S8, but I really love to have it rooted and use some modifications and custom roms, so which model of S8 should I pick?
Legasx said:
I would like to buy a S8, but I really love to have it rooted and use some modifications and custom roms, so which model of S8 should I pick?
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G950f version, as it has full Rom and kernel suppprt
Legasx said:
I would like to buy a S8, but I really love to have it rooted and use some modifications and custom roms, so which model of S8 should I pick?
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Then g850f or g850fd. Those two devices are just compatible. But you should remember that a root detecting hardware (called knox) will be triggered and you will never be able to use samsung pay unless you changed the motherboard. But you can still use android pay (so far) by using systemless rooting.
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Then g850f or g850fd. Those two devices are just compatible. But you should remember that a root detecting hardware (called knox) will be triggered and you will never be able to use samsung pay unless you changed the motherboard. But you can still use android pay (so far) by using systemless rooting.
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Is there anything else that would be unabled after rooting? Would that affect the camera too? I don't really use that much the Samsung pay thing so that won't matter to me.
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Is there anything else that would be unabled after rooting? Would that affect the camera too? I don't really use that much the Samsung pay thing so that won't matter to me.
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With Magisk root you will be safe until Google tries to block root again (its been a few months since the last time). Keep in mind though the G950f is the exynos version so you will have custom roms available but they wont be functional. There is an unlockable Snapdragon version (G9500) but nobody is making roms fort them YET, but if they do they will be full functional. Go for the Exynos version though, its the only thing with support currently.
kekistaneerefugee said:
With Magisk root you will be safe until Google tries to block root again (its been a few months since the last time). Keep in mind though the G950f is the exynos version so you will have custom roms available but they wont be functional. There is an unlockable Snapdragon version (G9500) but nobody is making roms fort them YET, but if they do they will be full functional. Go for the Exynos version though, its the only thing with support currently.
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Why won't the custom roms be functional? Which has better performance, exynos or spandragon?
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Why won't the custom roms be functional? Which has better performance, exynos or spandragon?
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The information given to you is incorrect. Magisk root, the root is always there, the only thing that gets updated that might effect you is safety net, some apps like Snapchat and Pokemon go need the device to pass safety net checks, magisk has a built in function to make the checks pass, Google can periodically update safety net checks and in turn a new version of magisk is released to make sure this new version can be pass the safety net checks.
As advised previously doing any of the above will trip Knox, everything is custom roms work except Samsung pay, everything else works great.
Imho the exynos version is better.
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Why won't the custom roms be functional? Which has better performance, exynos or spandragon?
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Custom Roms for the exynos will never have a functioning camera, go to the cross development sub forum on here and scroll through some of them too see the full list of things that do not work on them. As for performance that's debatable, the snapdragon can use Google's hdr+ canera app and get pixel quality photos but exynos is better for pretty much everything else until development for the snapdragon starts. The exynos version is cheaper and already supported for some tweaks, that's why I chose it over the snapdragon.
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Custom Roms for the exynos will never have a functioning camera, go to the cross development sub forum on here and scroll through some of them too see the full list of things that do not work on them. As for performance that's debatable, the snapdragon can use Google's hdr+ canera app and get pixel quality photos but exynos is better for pretty much everything else until development for the snapdragon starts. The exynos version is cheaper and already supported for some tweaks, that's why I chose it over the snapdragon.
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What are you on about, custom roms using Samsung stock s8/s8+ firmware as base are have fully working camera, it's only the note8 ports where some of the functions don t work
So the best idea would be buying the 950F and use custom roms that uses stock firmware?
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So the best idea would be buying the 950F and use custom roms that uses stock firmware?
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That would be the best bet, there are quite a few roms based off of s8 firmware you can try out
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What are you on about, custom roms using Samsung stock s8/s8+ firmware as base are have fully working camera
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I'm not trying to argue but modified stock roms are not custom roms they're just the lazy mans roms with a few swapped out apps. AOSP will not be getting a functioning camera, nfc, sms, calls, torch, fingerprint reader, or bluetooth audio anytime soon. Exynos never does, and region specific snapdragon variants have killed custom roms since the S6. You can get the same setup of modified stock roms on either the snapdragon or exynos, the price difference is the big deciding factor though.
kekistaneerefugee said:
I'm not trying to argue but modified stock roms are not custom roms they're just the lazy mans roms with a few swapped out apps. AOSP will not be getting a functioning camera, nfc, sms, calls, torch, fingerprint reader, or bluetooth audio anytime soon. Exynos never does, and region specific snapdragon variants have killed custom roms since the S6. You can get the same setup of modified stock roms on either the snapdragon or exynos, the price difference is the big deciding factor though.
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You clearly don't know what's involved in cooking a custom rom up from stockbase and what the devs do to enhance and bring new features that the original firmware didn't have, making changes to framework, updating libs and so on, the definition of custom matches what I've said. So your pretty much calling every dev who's made a non aosp Rom lazy and that's disrespectful.
That's the last I'm gonna say, I've given the op what he needed to know.
Hi,
I hope one of you kind people could help point me in the right direction for some advice on custom ROMs for (UK version of) the Galaxy S8, how they affect performance etc, and where I might start learning more...?
Current situation
I've had a OP3T since launch and have come to the conclusion that even though it's a great phone (IMO) it's just too big/heavy and I want something smaller.
Ideal solution
Buy a second-hand/cheap S8, wipe it, install a custom ROM that's as close to "stock" Android as possible (I'm really nit a fan of Samsung's software and I'll likely have better support/updates etc from a community supported ROM than Samsung themselves)
Questions/concerns
I'm quite confused by the potential differences between the UK model (Exynos) and the Snapdragon model and how that might affect my plans etc?
What would be a good ROM that would deliver a stock Android experience whilst also being as bug free as possible, still retain things like great camera performance, good battery/performance balance, all "main" functions supported (fingerprint, GPS, BT etc)?
Finally, what are your thoughts on my idea? Is it "wrong"? Should I be looking elsewhere? What am I not aware of etc?
Thanks in advance if you take the time to help - it'll be very much appreciated...
PugRallye said:
Hi,
I hope one of you kind people could help point me in the right direction for some advice on custom ROMs for (UK version of) the Galaxy S8, how they affect performance etc, and where I might start learning more...?
Current situation
I've had a OP3T since launch and have come to the conclusion that even though it's a great phone (IMO) it's just too big/heavy and I want something smaller.
Ideal solution
Buy a second-hand/cheap S8, wipe it, install a custom ROM that's as close to "stock" Android as possible (I'm really nit a fan of Samsung's software and I'll likely have better support/updates etc from a community supported ROM than Samsung themselves)
Questions/concerns
I'm quite confused by the potential differences between the UK model (Exynos) and the Snapdragon model and how that might affect my plans etc?
What would be a good ROM that would deliver a stock Android experience whilst also being as bug free as possible, still retain things like great camera performance, good battery/performance balance, all "main" functions supported (fingerprint, GPS, BT etc)?
Finally, what are your thoughts on my idea? Is it "wrong"? Should I be looking elsewhere? What am I not aware of etc?
Thanks in advance if you take the time to help - it'll be very much appreciated...
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The main differences between the snapdragon (north america/america/china) and exynos(international) is that the snapdragon version has a locked bootloader (China has unlockable bootloader), so no magisk root, no proper custom roms and no custom kernels, in terms of performance the exynos is better in all aspects bar 1, the adreno gpuin snapdragon is a little better.
If you are looking for a clean android/lineageos based Rom il be honest with you, you maybe waiting a long time, currently only lineageos os Rom is in alpha, so a lot of stuff not working, but there are people working on it.
Most time are stock Samsung firmware based but optimised, you will find debloated version and there is a version where pretty much all Samsung apps are removed.
Also if you rely on Samsung pay once you root and install twrp and so on you will permanent trip Knox counter and it will void Samsung pay, you will however be able to use android pay
sofir786 said:
The main differences between the snapdragon (north america/america/china) and exynos(international) is that the snapdragon version has a locked bootloader (China has unlockable bootloader), so no magisk root, no proper custom roms and no custom kernels, in terms of performance the exynos is better in all aspects bar 1, the adreno gpuin snapdragon is a little better.
If you are looking for a clean android/lineageos based Rom il be honest with you, you maybe waiting a long time, currently only lineageos os Rom is in alpha, so a lot of stuff not working, but there are people working on it.
Most time are stock Samsung firmware based but optimised, you will find debloated version and there is a version where pretty much all Samsung apps are removed.
Also if you rely on Samsung pay once you root and install twrp and so on you will permanent trip Knox counter and it will void Samsung pay, you will however be able to use android pay
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Thanks for the information...
I guess I could live with a debloated version of the Samsung ROM - I can get a lot of the stock Android "fee" from using a 3rd party launcher etc.
Ideally though I'd like to replace all the default apps with Google variants - clock, contacts etc, and remove the Samsung variants - is that something that's possibly in these debloated versions you mention?
I'm not interested in Samsung pay though - but out of interest, is this totally non-reversible? i.e. if I was to restore to a stock ROM, re-lock the bootloader etc, Samsung pay would still not work?
If you don't want the Samsung experience, skip the s8.
Yes launchers and whatnot, in the end the software is Samsung with no alternative ROM wise.
There are equally good and cheaper phones with better ROM support. The S8 is only an option if you want the best screen and camera or/and really love their approach to software.
I did come from the 3t too and in hindsight would take the 3t over the s8 any day.
domsch1988 said:
If you don't want the Samsung experience, skip the s8.
Yes launchers and whatnot, in the end the software is Samsung with no alternative ROM wise.
There are equally good and cheaper phones with better ROM support. The S8 is only an option if you want the best screen and camera or/and really love their approach to software.
I did come from the 3t too and in hindsight would take the 3t over the s8 any day.
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That's really interesting...
I'm just fed up with the size and weight of the 3T - and there are no other phones that really appeal (other than the S8) when it comes to size, features etc.
I'm still quite tempted by a second hand S8 (can be had for about £400, immaculate, second hand) - at that price I can't think of many alternatives...?
If you want Android stock experience forget about it. At this point there's just an LineageOS 14 alpha version. Someone said that there's people working on it. Might be. But since first release (October 2017) 6 months later there's no "public" progress. So my expectations are very low leaning towards none. But you can try an optimised touchwiz rom (there's plenty of them) or even those "Google edition" roms. Based on Touchwiz but with Samsung stock apps replaced by Google's counterparts (dialer, messenger and I think camera).
So, first of all, im new here, yay me!
Second, im uncertain if this is the correct place to post this, if not, I do appologise.
I've been reading through forums for a few hours now, I recently got my S10 (I've been an iOS user since iPhone4) and it seems JB/Root is quite different for adroind.
I read up on KingRoot and heeded XDA warnings and stayed away. My question here is.. Is there any "safe" way to currently root the S10+?
Naeksu said:
So, first of all, im new here, yay me!
Second, im uncertain if this is the correct place to post this, if not, I do appologise.
I've been reading through forums for a few hours now, I recently got my S10 (I've been an iOS user since iPhone4) and it seems JB/Root is quite different for adroind.
I read up on KingRoot and heeded XDA warnings and stayed away. My question here is.. Is there any "safe" way to currently root the S10+?
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At the moment it is not possible yet. It also depends on the chip of your S10 +. There are two variants, one with snapdragon and one with Samsung's Exynos. I think the latter can soon be rooted. It requires "Magisk" and the developers are working hard to make it compatible with the S10 + (Exynos version). You may want TWRP, a custom recovery. You need it to flash Magisk as soon as it arrives for the S10 Plus. So if you have the Exynos variant, you can watch the following thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/how-to/s10-s10-twrp-discussion-t3909530
First of all, I like Apple like Samsung or whatever. The S10 + raises the question of what you really need root for.
Personally, I use a few applications that require root. But the OS of the S10 + is in my opinion already so well and extensively configurable that root lost at least for me in importance. That's different with Apple, at least in my opinion. By that I mean, on my last smartphone (Oneplus 6) I did not want to get along without root. With a few tweaks, it was possible to significantly improve the performance and at the same time the battery life. Furthermore I could raise the screen brightness to a value, that is now comparable to the S10+ out of the box. Changing some stuff and other settings, that does not seem to me necessary anymore with the S10 +. Only a few apps and sound enhancement (viper4android) only work when it is rooted. Therefore, I am waiting for magic Magisk as you probably do. I just wanna say, do not be disappointed, if you have the snapdragon variant and have to wait maybe for month. By the way, I should have asked at the beginning what you want root for.
Yes, think about what you want root for.
The only thing I'm missing so far is the app that stops charging after xx%.
Also Titanium backup doesn't work. Other than that, I don't need it anymore. Yay.
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At the moment it is not possible yet. It also depends on the chip of your S10 +. There are two variants, one with snapdragon and one with Samsung's Exynos. I think the latter can soon be rooted. It requires "Magisk" and the developers are working hard to make it compatible with the S10 + (Exynos version). You may want TWRP, a custom recovery. You need it to flash Magisk as soon as it arrives for the S10 Plus. So if you have the Exynos variant, you can watch the following thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/how-to/s10-s10-twrp-discussion-t3909530
First of all, I like Apple like Samsung or whatever. The S10 + raises the question of what you really need root for.
Personally, I use a few applications that require root. But the OS of the S10 + is in my opinion already so well and extensively configurable that root lost at least for me in importance. That's different with Apple, at least in my opinion. By that I mean, on my last smartphone (Oneplus 6) I did not want to get along without root. With a few tweaks, it was possible to significantly improve the performance and at the same time the battery life. Furthermore I could raise the screen brightness to a value, that is now comparable to the S10+ out of the box. Changing some stuff and other settings, that does not seem to me necessary anymore with the S10 +. Only a few apps and sound enhancement (viper4android) only work when it is rooted. Therefore, I am waiting for magic Magisk as you probably do. I just wanna say, do not be disappointed, if you have the snapdragon variant and have to wait maybe for month. By the way, I should have asked at the beginning what you want root for.
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Well I don't know if I have Snapdragon or not, as I said, brand new to Samsung But the main reason I want root is ofcourse due to playing games. Ability to hex edit and so on.
Going back several years "rooting" was the way to go but for me so many important apps, particularly Banking, will not work with root and also as pointed out in a few replies here the levels that new phones like s10+ have reached there is little benefit anymore
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Well I don't know if I have Snapdragon or not, as I said, brand new to Samsung But the main reason I want root is ofcourse due to playing games. Ability to hex edit and so on.
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Then you should find out first, if you have Snapdragon or Exynos chip inside. If you haven't done a "special" order, it usually depends on the region, where you live and ordered. Search forum (or google), you´ll easily find the answer.