Should I install custom rom? - Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers

Hi there. I am kinda new on these things.
I am at my home right now. I have the time to backup everything.
I am on stock right now , I have started getting a bit of lags here and there.
Should I root and install a custom rom?
And if yes , what is the best combination of kernel and rom for the best performance and battery.

Akshatk said:
Hi there. I am kinda new on these things.
I am at my home right now. I have the time to backup everything.
I am on stock right now , I have started getting a bit of lags here and there.
Should I root and install a custom rom?
And if yes , what is the best combination of kernel and rom for the best performance and battery.
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DO NOT INSTALL CUSTOM ROM, if you have to ask that question.
On a serious note, a factory reset will take care of all lags.Rooting is for those who have a spare phone,want to play around and can afford brick sooner or later. Moto has determined stock to be best for all others.

pradyot said:
DO NOT INSTALL CUSTOM ROM, if you have to ask that question.
On a serious note, a factory reset will take care of all lags.Rooting is for those who have a spare phone,want to play around and can afford brick sooner or later. Moto has determined stock to be best for all others.
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I am not so new dude. I have installed custom roms many a times..on my canvas a1.
On that device , it was good bcoz the device itself wasn't so good.
But this moto g5 plus is a nice phone. That's why I'm asking whether i should install custom rom or not

Akshatk said:
I am not so new dude. I have installed custom roms many a times..on my canvas a1.
On that device , it was good bcoz the device itself wasn't so good.
But this moto g5 plus is a nice phone. That's why I'm asking whether i should install custom rom or not
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Acknowledged !! and my apologies.
Rooting and custom roms work well on MotoG+.On some of the latest Oreo roms I was playing around with in the past couple of months,the camera app broke more often than once.If you can live with that in exchange for performance, LineageOS 15 and Pixel Experience roms worked great.
But as with any phone, you have to play around for the best of latest or for stability.
Just my two cents .

pradyot said:
Acknowledged !! and my apologies.
Rooting and custom roms work well on MotoG+.On some of the latest Oreo roms I was playing around with in the past couple of months,the camera app broke more often than once.If you can live with that in exchange for performance, LineageOS 15 and Pixel Experience roms worked great.
But as with any phone, you have to play around for the best of latest or for stability.
Just my two cents .
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What about the battery life?
Can i use greenify etc with these roms?
Thanks for the reply

Install only if a stock firmware higher or equivalent to your current version is available. Else you will not be able to go back to stock. If you attempt to downgrade you will run into problems with bootloaders.

Akshatk said:
What about the battery life?
Can i use greenify etc with these roms?
Thanks for the reply
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Battery life is pretty good on the custom rom side. All updated ROMs are now Android 8.1 and are 64 bit. I usually get 6-7+ hours screen on time and switch between every rom that's released For battery and customizations I recommend AEX or Validius. Also, you can use greenify on any of the custom ROMs and root with magisk and pass safety net as well. I Also recommend you download from telegram group as those links are updated more often than xda.
Telegram links are:
t.me/g5pluslinks ---> All new ROMs released no chat
t.me/motog5plus ---> Release of new ROMs / kernels but lot of chat too.
t.me/MotoG5PlusStuff ---> Collection of all kinds of camera apps.

Too late. I failed to root. And now my camera doesn't work. :Cries:
Gonna try flashing stock (some 92 version ) which has the Nov patch. Older one failed(downgrade).
Help me if you can. PLEASE.
I can explain everything I did.

Too late. I failed to root. And now my camera doesn't work. :Cries:
Gonna try flashing stock (some 92 version ) which has the Nov patch. Older one failed(downgrade).
Help me if you can. PLEASE.
I can explain everything I did.

Ok guys. So..i somehow got the root to work. But the camera is not working. It is saying camera is busy . What should I do?

Akshatk said:
Ok guys. So..i somehow got the root to work. But the camera is not working. It is saying camera is busy . What should I do?
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I believe that using custom kernel was the fix to that issue, not 100% sure as I never had the issue myself. Also, if you decide to go to a custom rom you won't have that issue (it only affects stock rom). Another option if you want to stick on stock is find the thread on here for TWRP flashable stock ROMs and use latest one for your phone.

I'm not able to select SD card storage in the recovery mode. What's the issue here? How do I fix it?

Akshatk said:
I'm not able to select SD card storage in the recovery mode. What's the issue here? How do I fix it?
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nevermind. I updated twrp to 3.2.1.0 . Now i can use my sd card there.

jeffsga88 said:
I believe that using custom kernel was the fix to that issue, not 100% sure as I never had the issue myself. Also, if you decide to go to a custom rom you won't have that issue (it only affects stock rom). Another option if you want to stick on stock is find the thread on here for TWRP flashable stock ROMs and use latest one for your phone.
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I installed lineage 14.1.
I have no issues now.
Thanks bro!

Akshatk said:
I installed lineage 14.1.
I have no issues now.
Thanks bro!
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No problem. Happy I could help.

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[GUIDE] How To Root SM-N9208

Hello Friends
I have been searching the internet for days on how to root the Note 5 N9208 dual sim and finally found something that seem stable.
DISCLAIMER: I am by no means taking credit for this root method, I am just sharing what I found because I know how hard the information can be to find on the internet. As you should already know, with flashing there is always a risk so you are always responsible for you own device
1. First you are going to want to enable OEM Unlock and USB debugging in the developer option.
2. Go to Samsung app store and get the CROM service app. (this is needed so you can flash custom roms, on some phones you won't be able to flash anything if you don't do this step)
3. Download Permissive kernel (from xiaolu) for N9208 with auto root: N9208-TW-Root (0909) .tar flash it with Odin3.10.7 (extract tar-file from zip, put it in section and flash AP)
At this point you should now have root, beyond this step will explain how to get TWRP recovery.
4. Official TWRP for Samsung Galaxy Note 5 DUOS you can found here ... (download tar-file, put it in AP section and flash with Odin3.10.7).
This information was accumulated by searching the web. My thanks goes out to all developers who help me to arrive at a root solution. If you, a developer come here and see a violation that I overlooked please inbox me and I will rectify it right away Thanks again
Thanks for the guide. Do you have more information on the kernel?
Elmar1801 said:
Thanks for the guide. Do you have more information on the kernel?
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Sad to say, I didn't find much information on the web about the performance of this kernel. It just showed up as a way to gain root.
Not being about to accumulate any data on the kernel I kinda was back and forth in my mind if I should use it or not. after hours of thinking and really wanted root I decided to give it a go in a all or re-flash moment(nothing).
Turn out to be pretty good with no change in performance vs the stock kernel. Once flashed I saw superSU there installed and ready to go.
Now I was concern about the random reboots I heard about with other kernels but I have been using the phone for 3 days now and I haven't encountered any lags, no reboots, no drop of signals or calls. I have not yet installed any games on my phone so I don't know how it will be with heavy usage of that nature.
If you decide to give this a try please post any findings of abnormalities here. Thank you
dreskullz said:
Sad to say, I didn't find much information on the web about the performance of this kernel. It just showed up as a way to gain root.
Not being about to accumulate any data on the kernel I kinda was back and forth in my mind if I should use it or not. after hours of thinking and really wanted root I decided to give it a go in a all or re-flash moment(nothing).
Turn out to be pretty good with no change in performance vs the stock kernel. Once flashed I saw superSU there installed and ready to go.
Now I was concern about the random reboots I heard about with other kernels but I have been using the phone for 3 days now and I haven't encountered any lags, no reboots, no drop of signals or calls. I have not yet installed any games on my phone so I don't know how it will be with heavy usage of that nature.
If you decide to give this a try please post any findings of abnormalities here. Thank you
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i used the same process and files on my 9208 to achieve root. going on 3-days with stock ROM, the root kernel and latest xposed for TW and haven't had one reboot.
cortez.i said:
i used the same process and files on my 9208 to achieve root. going on 3-days with stock ROM, the root kernel and latest xposed for TW and haven't had one reboot.
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That's awesome
I thought xposed for our phone was only possible with Deodexed roms? if this is possible for our Odexed stock rom can you kindly point me into the direction to get this done?
dreskullz said:
That's awesome
I thought xposed for our phone was only possible with Deodexed roms? if this is possible for our Odexed stock rom can you kindly point me into the direction to get this done?
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Enjoy . i thought the same; be sure to get V74 for arm64 devices.
cortez.i said:
Enjoy . i thought the same; be sure to get V74 for arm64 devices.
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Thank you I will go give this a try right now
dreskullz said:
Sad to say, I didn't find much information on the web about the performance of this kernel. It just showed up as a way to gain root.
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If you decide to give this a try please post any findings of abnormalities here. Thank you
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Thanks for your reply. I will give it a go.
i am giving this kernel a try also.....to many random reboots on another one
edwardob said:
i am giving this kernel a try also.....to many random reboots on another one
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Let us know about any abnormalities you find just in case we have missed something
No problems at all. No reboots or lags.
Nice guide for obtaining root!
I already have rooted my Note 5 using the SpaceX kernel, but as some of you know this kernel has the random reboot issue.
What would be the procedure for me to flash this kernel. Can I just flash over the current SpaceX kernel or would I have to go another route?
Appreciate the help.
daffie said:
Nice guide for obtaining root!
I already have rooted my Note 5 using the SpaceX kernel, but as some of you know this kernel has the random reboot issue.
What would be the procedure for me to flash this kernel. Can I just flash over the current SpaceX kernel or would I have to go another route?
Appreciate the help.
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just the same way...directly over old o one
edwardob said:
just the same way...directly over old o one
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Cheers for the quick help! So just Odin flash this kernel directly over my current setup...will get right to it
Flashed the kernel and rebooted...all seems well. Now further testing and hopefully no weird issues like random reboots and/or deep sleep bug.
and We still don't know where it came from ??
but it Works
I seen it on a russian site thats all I know
but it works !!
Indeed...it's all rather strange No dev, no nothing...but it does work :good:
I got 4% battery usage in some 10 hours standby and that's pretty decent in my book.
Performance seems on par with stock kernel. Now for another couple of days of further testing to see if it holds up...(no random reboots and such).
I was at about 6%at 7hrs.....but I have one drive syncing. ..but before I had 15-20%....
and no reboots and I am rooted!!!!
edwardob said:
and We still don't know where it came from ??
but it Works
I seen it on a russian site thats all I know
but it works !!
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lol yup, there is no data at all on this kernel as far as I can search. one thing I can say for sure is that its doing very well in terms of performance. I play games, listen to music, make calls on both sims, send emails and have dual whatsapp going all day. with all that activity I manage to get 13 hours out of the phone, I plug in at 18%. to me thats good. What do you guys think?
l think we have a rooted in 9208 dual sim that doesnt reboot and works fine
curiousty leads me toWonder Where it came from and whats been done to it
Guys, will this work with the hong kong version (9200)?
Sent from my SM-N9200 using Tapatalk

Opinions on best root method, ROM & Kernal for SM-n9005 (lollipop 5.0)

Hi guys,
Been reading these forums for the last few hours but still struggling to make my mind up...I would like to know your opinions on the best method of rooting my phone (SM-n9005 on lollipop 5.0) and what ROM and kernal you recommend please? The most important factor for me is stability/lack of bugs but without going back to an earlier version of android. Or would that mean that it would make more sense to keep the stock ROM/kernal?
I apologise in advance for any stupid questions as I am pretty new to this but very eager to tinker!
Thanks!
my choice!
Darren653 said:
Hi guys,
Been reading these forums for the last few hours but still struggling to make my mind up...I would like to know your opinions on the best method of rooting my phone (SM-n9005 on lollipop 5.0) and what ROM and kernal you recommend please? The most important factor for me is stability/lack of bugs but without going back to an earlier version of android. Or would that mean that it would make more sense to keep the stock ROM/kernal?
I apologise in advance for any stupid questions as I am pretty new to this but very eager to tinker!
Thanks!
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* Root via CF Auto Root
* Flash AryaMod ROM (via TWRP)
* Flash Lean Kernel 6.3 (via TWRP)
Well my choice for rooting is simple. Install a custom recovery (TWRP), then flash the SuperSU zip from there, done.
My preferred custom ROM (for you) would be Arya, cause it comes with lots of features, and it's based on stock Samsung TW ROM, so its stable as hell.
Kernel? Well I am sorry to say I can't say that, probably Audax? I am on Stock at this moment, and all I know if I move to a custom kernel it will be Audax at this moment, cause honestly I don't see any reason to use any other kernel other than that. I prefer a kernel for its additional features, and those aren't available then I don't see any point of using a custom kernel
ithehappy said:
Well my choice for rooting is simple. Install a custom recovery (TWRP), then flash the SuperSU zip from there, done.
My preferred custom ROM (for you) would be Arya, cause it comes with lots of features, and it's based on stock Samsung TW ROM, so its stable as hell.
Kernel? Well I am sorry to say I can't say that, probably Audax? I am on Stock at this moment, and all I know if I move to a custom kernel it will be Audax at this moment, cause honestly I don't see any reason to use any other kernel other than that. I prefer a kernel for its additional features, and those aren't available then I don't see any point of using a custom kernel
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Thanks a lot for the help! By the sounds of it then, i will definitely go with the Arya ROM...I'm assuming this and Aryamod are the same thing? Also, will this offer many more advantages as the stock ROM and will it be as stable? The main reason i have decided to root my phone is to get more out of apps requiring root and to get rid of bloatware.
With regards to the kernal, i guess being a novice, all i understand is that they can improve battery performance and phone performance so i would like to go for one fitting this. Unless i have missed the idea completely lol
Thanks again mate
Darren653 said:
Thanks a lot for the help! By the sounds of it then, i will definitely go with the Arya ROM...I'm assuming this and Aryamod are the same thing? Also, will this offer many more advantages as the stock ROM and will it be as stable? The main reason i have decided to root my phone is to get more out of apps requiring root and to get rid of bloatware.
With regards to the kernal, i guess being a novice, all i understand is that they can improve battery performance and phone performance so i would like to go for one fitting this. Unless i have missed the idea completely lol
Thanks again mate
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This is Arya mate, http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/rom-aryamod-v1-tw-lollipop-t2990920
Yes, the ROM is damn stable, as stable as stock ROM, I used the ROM for almost two months, and in fact I am downloading it now, getting bored of stock ROM.
Yes, kernel can improve battery life and performance, if you know what to tweak.
ithehappy said:
This is Arya mate, http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/rom-aryamod-v1-tw-lollipop-t2990920
Yes, the ROM is damn stable, as stable as stock ROM, I used the ROM for almost two months, and in fact I am downloading it now, getting bored of stock ROM.
Yes, kernel can improve battery life and performance, if you know what to tweak.
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Thanks a lot! I'm just backing up my phone then I'm going to try to root it and install the ROM tonight! I think i'll leave the custom kernal for a while so I can see how i get on with the stock kernel. At least then i'll hopefully be able to compare once i do flash a new one.
Thanks for being patient
Darren653 said:
Thanks a lot! I'm just backing up my phone then I'm going to try to root it and install the ROM tonight! I think i'll leave the custom kernal for a while so I can see how i get on with the stock kernel. At least then i'll hopefully be able to compare once i do flash a new one.
Thanks for being patient
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Sure mate, we are here to help. Just do a wipe before doing all that, cause without wiping the ROM and all its features might not work and the ROM won't be stable anyway. Wipe everything from TWRP, under Advanced wipe section, except external SD card of course. Take a backup beforehand. Remember, if you do that advanced wipe thing, then you won't have anything on your phone, so better download Arya before doing all that.
ithehappy said:
Sure mate, we are here to help. Just do a wipe before doing all that, cause without wiping the ROM and all its features might not work and the ROM won't be stable anyway. Wipe everything from TWRP, under Advanced wipe section, except external SD card of course. Take a backup beforehand. Remember, if you do that advanced wipe thing, then you won't have anything on your phone, so better download Arya before doing all that.
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I've managed to root it without any problems so I'm well chuffed
I decided to get the hang of titanium backup and TWRP backup before i start messing about too much with custom ROMS. Which for me, is a very sensible decision
I've been looking at the Arya rom which like you said, seems amazingly stable now, and the Darklord N5 or S6 port, which apparently is stable now too. Do you have any experience with the Darklord N5 or S6 ROMs? How do these compare to the Arya? Lastly, now that I've rooted it, is there much to gain from a custom ROM as it seems that you can get many different apps to customise different things whilst keeping the stability of the OEM ROM?
Darren653 said:
I've managed to root it without any problems so I'm well chuffed
I decided to get the hang of titanium backup and TWRP backup before i start messing about too much with custom ROMS. Which for me, is a very sensible decision
I've been looking at the Arya rom which like you said, seems amazingly stable now, and the Darklord N5 or S6 port, which apparently is stable now too. Do you have any experience with the Darklord N5 or S6 ROMs? How do these compare to the Arya? Lastly, now that I've rooted it, is there much to gain from a custom ROM as it seems that you can get many different apps to customise different things whilst keeping the stability of the OEM ROM?
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Unfortunately I don't posses any idea about those ROMs mate. As much as I would like to respect and admire those developers (you have no idea how hard it is to do even a simple mod, let alone a full ROM like that), at the same time I will have to say almost all the ported ROMs have some sort of issues, be it S6 or Note 5 or Note 4, yes, they might be negligible to some, but I want my phone to be performing as stable as possible. And as Arya is based on Stock Note 3 firmware there is no chance of any instability. But if you find Darklord Note 5 port stable and don't encounter any problem then use it, by all means. Heck if Samsung doesn't release 5.1.1 i next couple of months then I too obviously will that route, but for now 5.0 is okay enough for me.
And yes, with a custom ROM you can do a lot of things as you have already experienced. You rooted it to install the custom ROM, and then there are the ROM features which need root, so yes, custom all the way. This is coming from a stock ROM lover by the way, but as I said before, Arya is as stable as a stock ROM, and comes with some really handy features additionally, so its a simple decision for me
ithehappy said:
Unfortunately I don't posses any idea about those ROMs mate. As much as I would like to respect and admire those developers (you have no idea how hard it is to do even a simple mod, let alone a full ROM like that), at the same time I will have to say almost all the ported ROMs have some sort of issues, be it S6 or Note 5 or Note 4, yes, they might be negligible to some, but I want my phone to be performing as stable as possible. And as Arya is based on Stock Note 3 firmware there is no chance of any instability. But if you find Darklord Note 5 port stable and don't encounter any problem then use it, by all means. Heck if Samsung doesn't release 5.1.1 i next couple of months then I too obviously will that route, but for now 5.0 is okay enough for me.
And yes, with a custom ROM you can do a lot of things as you have already experienced. You rooted it to install the custom ROM, and then there are the ROM features which need root, so yes, custom all the way. This is coming from a stock ROM lover by the way, but as I said before, Arya is as stable as a stock ROM, and comes with some really handy features additionally, so its a simple decision for me
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That sounds like good advice mate. Thanks for all of your help!

Quick Question

So I am on H91810q and I have kept root through the upgrades. Am I still able to flash another rom like LineageOS or am I stuck with stock since I upgraded so far?
Try it -- it isn't going to break your phone
Probably isn't going to run to well on new firmware though. Most of the heavy development was done on much older firmware, and those parts haven't been updated.
-- Brian
runningnak3d said:
Try it -- it isn't going to break your phone
Probably isn't going to run to well on new firmware though. Most of the heavy development was done on much older firmware, and those parts haven't been updated.
-- Brian
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I'm thinking a TWRP Full Backup of the stock rom and wipe and flash LineageOS. In theory do you think I would be able to restore stock if something doesn't go right?
Yes. When you install LOS or a LOS based ROM the only thing that gets flashed is boot and system. Both of those are backed up by TWRP.
-- Brian
runningnak3d said:
Yes. When you install LOS or a LOS based ROM the only thing that gets flashed is boot and system. Both of those are backed up by TWRP.
-- Brian
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Well I just flashed LOS and I can see the screen flashing on and off but no boot. Any other suggestions? Am I stuck with the stock rom which I am gettings sick of...
Nope, you can't downgrade. Unless someone picks up development on current firmware, you can only use stock.
Not the answer I was looking for lol...
jrosetto said:
Not the answer I was looking for lol...
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I know this isn't a custom rom but you're like me and on rooted Q, I use to not enjoy stock due to not being able to customize the phone how I liked but the instabilities in the camera and bluetooth and battery life made me appreciate the stock/stock based roms for the V20 and I actually PREFER a fully functional camera nd awesome audio recorder than inferior apps. But! Askermk2000's kernel is COMPATIBLE with rooted 10q, I am using it and it has honestly breathed new life into my phome for sure and since we don't have many rom options at the moment at least throw this kernel on your stock 10q rom and enjoy it! Here's the thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/h918-h910-us996-ucl-mk2000-kernel-t3708330
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I know this isn't a custom rom but you're like me and on rooted Q, I use to not enjoy stock due to not being able to customize the phone how I liked but the instabilities in the camera and bluetooth and battery life made me appreciate the stock/stock based roms for the V20 and I actually PREFER a fully functional camera nd awesome audio recorder than inferior apps. But! Askermk2000's kernel is COMPATIBLE with rooted 10q, I am using it and it has honestly breathed new life into my phome for sure and since we don't have many rom options at the moment at least throw this kernel on your stock 10q rom and enjoy it! Here's the thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/h918-h910-us996-ucl-mk2000-kernel-t3708330
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Thanks for the suggestion, I'll check it out.

[GUIDE][addison] SETUP Moto z play XT1635-02 : from stock 6.0 to custom ROM.

I have the habit of always asking on a new device no matter how much I think I know!
I have an xt1635-02 (I am US ATT Prepaid)(nano SIM) supposedly here tomorrow so I've been reading tons here.
However, it seems that a lot of the threads are aimed at rooting stock, which I never do.
As a rule, it's trivial:
[!] In this case it seems best to OTA update stock to 7.1.1 if it isn't already. I believe bootloader must be 7.x.x for doing custom Oreo ROMs . Since mine was 6.0 it took about 8 updates OTA and maybe 2 hours(wifi) .
[!]I go to moto site and do the unlock bootloader dance (already carrier unlocked supposedly).
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
[!]Then flash twrp-3.2.1-0-addison.img (Alberto97) using fastboot on my PC. (Ubuntu 17.10 dev 18.04 with adb and fastboot)(dual boot win7)
I do this twice in a row as I have experienced it not working the first time (dead android LOL).(OCD much??? )
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...recovery-unofficial-twrp-moto-z-play-t3495629
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[!] -->then flash Alberto's verity patch mentioned at the top of his TWRP thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...recovery-unofficial-twrp-moto-z-play-t3495629
This modifies stock. Else your backups of stock won't boot. Learned this the hard way!
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[!]Then use TWRP to backup (default settings) stock a couple of times and put copies of both on PC (via USB on stock).(or if for some reason my USB-C doesn't work, via wifi to my router using filezilla FTP and phone app: "wifi file transfer" by "DNL Media UG"(needs permission storage=on..) - I had to redo this twice - redo this twice - kept dropping back to stock recovery.
[!]Then flash the boot logo using fastboot on PC - I usually use TWRP for this but these that I found here are not set up to be TWRP flash compat so will just remove bin from zip and flash using PC. I think I have about 4 possibilities that I found on these threads. Nice! Easy.
[!]Then boot to TWRP and flash Alberto97's AOSP 8.1 arm64 ROM. Why that ROM you may ask. Been using mainly that Alberto97 ROM on my Moto G3 (32bit version of course), and love it. There's plenty of time to try all the others!!!
I usually consider 2 root options; SuperSU 2.82-SR5, or majisk 1520. (for future readers, these are the latest at this time.)(besides I'm very used to them.)
With SuperSU I have had no probs wiping all 4(Dalvik/ART, system, data, cache), flash ROM, flash 8.1 gapps, flash SUperSU, and boot to install.
With majisk I have sometimes had troubles during install if I flash majisk in the first batch so I tend to wipe all 4, flash ROM and gapps, and boot to install. Then when I finally hit desktop, boot back to TWRP and flash 1520 and reboot.
I need root to use TBPro - no restoring on first time with this 64bit ROM- got to do it the hard way!
SO I believe that's it, but if anyone sees a flaw or problem in there, I would appreciate your help.
Thanks!!!
yep look right, i would have added backup EFS and Modem partitions, if you want to be completely safe.
For now, open gapps 8.1 are only unofficial, i would feel a bit unsecure to use that, but it's only me.
fablebreton said:
yep look right, i would have added backup EFS and Modem partitions, if you want to be completely safe.
For now, open gapps 8.1 are only unofficial, i would feel a bit unsecure to use that, but it's only me.
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Merci! Many thanks for looking in!!!
Yes, forgot to add that - did much xda search on the efs thing and best I found seemed to be a twrp-3.1.1-0-EFS-addison.img which I may very well flash first and do that since no other TWRP that I looked at offers backup efs. Official and squid2 derived (G3) don't. I assume Alberto's doesn't. Seems like I did it very manually on the G3. If you have it it's a pretty good guarantee that you'll never need it! (Murphy axiom)
As to unofficial gapps, I've been testing about 5 different 8.1 ROMs on the Moto G3 over the past couple months and if the gapps aren't built in to the ROM(some pixelexperience roms), all you can get is an unofficial gapps, or do a minor simple hack to an 8.0 so it will accept it. Usually devs will include it. Bless Alberto97 for not including it so I can select my own!!! But I've had no prob with gapps. Open gapps project has 8.0, but of course they won't work on a true 8.1 unless minor hack. I was planning on using open_gapps-arm64-8.1-aroma-20180109-UNOFFICIAL.zip (from https://cloud.kenzoroms.club/?dir=opengapps) unless you have a better idea. I wanted to grab camera from aroma(somebody's idea), but I also have about 5 other cameras and gcams waiting on the Sdcard that I want to test, simply because there seemed to be disagreement on what works on Alberto's new 8.1 build, so wanted to be able to report.
Thanks again!
backup efs / adb way : https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/2zq0ff/friendly_reminder_back_up_your_efs_partition_if/
fablebreton said:
backup efs / adb way : https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/2zq0ff/friendly_reminder_back_up_your_efs_partition_if/
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Thanks for great link! yeah I think I used adb as well as an app last time. I'll add recovery this time so that's 3 backups on internal storage (and copied to PC) should be enough! (yes dear readers I am serious about this - 3 times! They are so tiny! And that pretty much guarantees I'll never need it, but if I do, it's childs play to get it back.)
Thanks!!!
If you're wondering about the delay, they sent me a -01 (Droid)(Murphy's law), so they paid for a UPS next day air label back to them(mailed at 4PM) - don't know if I'll get this going before Sat! Oh well!!! Never take these things too seriously!!! Gotta be costing them a chunk! I did briefly turn it on and stuck the SIM in it and it did show LTE on my ATT, but there's a few bands missing that are on the -02, so will wait. Pretty display, though!!! Really looking forward to it!!!
KrisM22 said:
If you're wondering about the delay, they sent me a -01 (Droid)(Murphy's law), so they paid for a UPS next day air label back to them(mailed at 4PM) - don't know if I'll get this going before Sat! Oh well!!! Never take these things too seriously!!! Gotta be costing them a chunk! I did briefly turn it on and stuck the SIM in it and it did show LTE on my ATT, but there's a few bands missing that are on the -02, so will wait. Pretty display, though!!! Really looking forward to it!!!
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Good plan on sending it back. You would have been SOL trying to root the -01
dandrumheller said:
Good plan on sending it back. You would have been SOL trying to root the -01
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Yes! I learned about 5 or 6 phones ago NOT to re-invent the wheel!!!
KrisM22 said:
Yes! I learned about 5 or 6 phones ago NOT to re-invent the wheel!!!
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Okay, refund for that and order another from somebody else! Next week...!
The only thing is no moto mods on non stock (any thing past 7.1.1 or aosp) roms
punkerEVO said:
The only thing is no moto mods on non stock (any thing past 7.1.1 or aosp) roms
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yes. stock 8.x is a no-no. This one that is coming is 6.0.1 So I will let it ota update to 7.1.1 after giving it a thorough check-out, then try unlocking it, etc. Sound right? I have no interest in any of the hardware-type addons, just the plain phone 3/32 octacore etc. Why this one? - I love the reception (radio) strength of Motos, plus a ton of other things. I stick with them. Plus it's all Albeto97's fault for deving on AOSP 8.1
Lol Alberto97's roms are buttery smooth!
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Lol Alberto97's roms are buttery smooth!
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I think they are. He recently came out with an 8.1 AOSP version for the Moto G3 and I love it. I test others, but that's my daily driver. Sure not perfect, but quite good enough for me!!! So I figure when I get it (Tues?) that's what I'll put on it. There's always plenty of time to test others!
Okay, since I am waiting for phone (Tues) , obviously I am worried about "what-if"s and so researching on what to do, "if".
I succeeded in finding a nice zip for 7.1.1 with the Nov security patch
https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto Z Play/Stock/
(I am US)(there are many others at that nice site!!!)
That took a lot of time.
Then I needed to be sure that I could get RSD lite to run, and tried and tried to no avail to get it to recognize my phone (even on my laptop) (I was testing with an old Moto G3 stock zip and my G3 phone) before some post gave me a version number much higher than at the RSD site. google gave me:
http://rsdlite.en.lo4d.com/
version 6.2.4, which worked perfectly.
I really need to write a short guide on this stuff - feels like I'm re-inventing the wheel, even though many folks have written much before I came along!
The reason for the above two is that for a while the last few days I kept running into folks who had taken 7 OTA and wound up with a bricked phone. So, yes, I just did a search for "brick" on xda in moto z play and will start reading them! LOL
Quick EDIT: I think I am wrong in that brick assumption - the first 3 I looked at involved encryption and 2 downgrades to MM (which is a no-no). I will read further.
edit2 - nevermind - most are downgrading to MM. Wish folks would just ask before doing that. That is a no-no of most (all?) phones. -
Hi,
Please share your camera result using Alberto97's roms. I some ROM but i dont like camera result, i think stock ROM still better in camera.
Thank You
wakhidnusa said:
Hi,
Please share your camera result using Alberto97's roms. I some ROM but i dont like camera result, i think stock ROM still better in camera.
Thank You
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YES! Will do. I have about 5 cameras that I want to try though I will stop at the first one that works. Phone should be here today.
wakhidnusa said:
Hi,
Please share your camera result using Alberto97's roms. I some ROM but i dont like camera result, i think stock ROM still better in camera.
Thank You
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I have no problem with various cameras getting good image, but sometimes on still first pic doesn't save. ( tried camera MX and Professional camera hd. I'm sure lots work about the same.)
Forgot to flash Alberto's verity patch right after flashing TWRP. So I had to RSD lite 7.1.1 Nov 1 and start over - no big deal! OP corrected.
Hello Kris,
I would like to ask for a link where I can download a working RSD so I can unlocked my bootloader.
Thanks
jeprox said:
Hello Kris,
I would like to ask for a link where I can download a working RSD so I can unlocked my bootloader.
Thanks
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link to 6.2.4 is in the first post of
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/how-to/guide-rsd-lite-mini-guide-t3740641#post75334194

To root or to not root?

Hi everyone,
I've been using my OP5 for the past year and now I've exhausted my full 64Gb of storage. Was planning to backup my data onto my laptop and start afresh but I thought it is time to root. I've rooted pretty much every phone I've had in the past for some or the other reason like increasing battery life, overclocking, debloated roms for more storage etc. etc.
I have been technologically dead for the past 2 years so I'm kind of lost right now and in confusion on as to whether to root or not? What would be the main advantages I'd be getting if I root. My phone is still blazing fast, has amazing battery life and OOS is really smooth.
Just in a lot of confusion and want to find more reasons to root.
If you have to ask, you don't need it.
If you root your phone you'll be able to actually use your phone. The only disadvantage to rooting your phone that I see would be that whenever I see a new rom, I want to flash it. I've never understood why somebody would not want to root their phone. Maybe warranty? But then again, I think there are ways around that?
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The only disadvantage to rooting your phone that I see would be that whenever I see a new rom, I want to flash it.
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This! +1
Dirk said:
If you have to ask, you don't need it.
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Should have seen a reply like this coming my way. Buddy, I've rooted every other phone I've had in the past. Either for updates, better battery life, smoother ram management and so on.. The only thing I couldn't understand is this phone isn't lacking in any of the above mentioned points including updates **touch wood** so wanted to understand others thought process on the advantages cause I am unaware of all the cool mods you can do at the moment, if there are any.
Rickyloc said:
If you root your phone you'll be able to actually use your phone. The only disadvantage to rooting your phone that I see would be that whenever I see a new rom, I want to flash it. I've never understood why somebody would not want to root their phone. Maybe warranty? But then again, I think there are ways around that?
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Thank you, this was helpful.. I don't see why i shouldn't root it too. I'll probably be rooting too. Which Rom would you suggest for stability and everyday usage with some good extra additional functionality?
Kunal5894 said:
Thank you, this was helpful.. I don't see why i shouldn't root it too. I'll probably be rooting too. Which Rom would you suggest for stability and everyday usage with some good extra additional functionality?
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My favorite rom is Codename Phoenix. It's fast and it's not on XDA, which is probably why I like it. It's got a lot of features. If there is a feature a rom doesn't have you can always get Xposed or something to enable.
But the main reason for rooting my phone is so that I can use gcam properly. I love Photoshop and gcam offers the best photos. In my opinion, far better than stock or any other.
There's an option just to flash a custom ROM and leave it unrooted ?
I can recommend Resurrection Remix unofficial. Simply followed the steps with unlocking the bootloader and gaining root on stock ROM, then flashed a custom ROM without rooting it.
If you thought battery life was great with stock OOS you're going to be pretty surprised with battery at Resurrection Remix and Flash Kernel ?
Kunal5894 said:
Thank you, this was helpful.. I don't see why i shouldn't root it too. I'll probably be rooting too. Which Rom would you suggest for stability and everyday usage with some good extra additional functionality?
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The best combination of stability and improved battery life is between the stock stable OxygenOS paired with the latest Franco kernel. I have tried pretty much all of the custom ROMs but every time the battery life of my phone was getting worse (compared to fully stock) until I tried stock OOS with Franco Kernel. But I have to say that I only have rooted my phone to use the Franco Kernel Manager and I do not have any add-ons into Magisk. Root + Franco and everything else is stock. I am not flashing new roms/kernels like crazy and really often, because the stable OOS is getting released once in two or even three months. Franco's kernel is being updated, hm, let's say once in a month or two months. So 99% of the time you are going to use your phone without flashing anything new.

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