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Hello,
I was wondering if anyone else is having the same problems.
When I go to bed I turn the PDA off. The phone is still on.
When I wake about 7 hours later I find the battery is at 60%.
What's the deal? I thought it was supposed to have 150 hour standby life.
I do find something else quite weird. When I turn the PDA off the screen turns off and it all seems fine. I have the button lock turned on so no other buttons will work. After a couple of minutes, if I move the volume slider up or down the PDA will beep. Then if I press any of the buttons such as "Record" "Camera" and "Calander" Nothign seems to happen.
But when I turn the PDA on the "Recoard" "Camera" and "Calander" applications will load.
It is kinda of like it isn't turning off the PDA at all.
Anyone know what I'm doing wrong or how to fix it?
Thanks
Cam
if grps is only and bluetooth is on and maybe messenger and or icq is on it drain the batt
GPRS and Bluetooth are both on but GPRS is not connected. And Bluetooth is not connecting to anything.
I don't use messanger.
Would that still be draining the battery that much?
Cam
Cyeoh,
Unfortunately, I know exactly what you are going through. Your phone is entering a mode called 'resuming', it’s a low power state that does not turn on the display, etc, but will respond to hardkeys, volume slider, etc......
I'm guessing your XDA2 goes into 'resume' while trying to find a GSM signal, (are you in a weak area). This is my problem, you can read about it here...
http://www.pocketpcpassion.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38598
As a test, you should turn off the phone, (flight mode) for one night and compare the battery in the morning, (I'm willing to bet is almost the same as when you left it). Alternately install an app that monitors cpu usage, (like the one in the above link), and you probably will see a similar pattern to mine.
The registry solution does help, but causes problems with Bluetooth, (at least it did on my device, nothing a soft reset didn’t fix, but it was VERY annoying)….
If it is your GSM phone, you might want to try using another GSM SIM card from another provider, (maybe a friends) and see if you get better results. When I switched to a better provider I got an increase of 10% on the battery, (not great but something!)
Thank You very much.
That does answer a lot. I do have very bad reception at home. I guess this may mean I need to leave it charging over night. However I do find the XDA does charge very quickly which mean in the time it takes me to get ready for work it is back up to 93%.
I will put it into Flight mode tonight to see what happens.
It's still a little bit ****ty and it seems to be because of software. Hopefully they will fix it in the next ROM update.
Thanks
Cam
How did you go with your test last night cyeoh, did your battery last a little longer?
I'm intrested to know as when I charge my battery over night in the morning its still is not on 100% untill I do a soft reset or disable and enable flight mode then it pops up to 100% and stops charging... yet a nother feature of some software I've installed or the ROM version at the moment!!!
Hi guys,
I have a problem with my Jade. I've charged it last evening and I've barely used it. When I've went to bed it was 96% charged (ARIELbattery) and 10 minutes used.
This morning, when I've woke up, The battery was 33% and and the phone was 34 minutes usage time.
Something is wrong. Since there were no bluetooth, no wifi, no anything activated. And for sure, nobody played with the phone during the night.
This is not the first time when I see this behavior, but is the first time when the decrease is so big.
I suspect an app, but I do not know which of them. How can I see it?
Do you have other suggestions?
thanks!
There are some possible reasons:
Some SD-Cards seem to drain battery, so you can take it out for a test.
Some additional software is told to drain battery. Did you install something?
It is also helpful to switch to "flight-mode" over night. This normally reduces battery drain to nearly zero, if no additional consumers exist.
Hi,
Yes I've installed some software, like gAlarm, S2U2, icontact,ThumbCal, Skype, etc but last night none of them was started.
What can I do with the SD Card?! I need the SD-Card. Which card does not drain battery and which does?
I cannot turn off the phone over night.
Some clues here in this forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514556&highlight=battery
I've read those before posting, but there was no answer to my problem. I have 67% drop of battery in 8 hours without touching the phone.
This is most likely that your device goes to screenoff or unattended power state instead of sleep. Your power settings might be corrupted. To change that go to your power settings advanced tab and change everything there (checkboxes and sliders), press ok and then change them back as they were, press ok. I'd suggest to keep the device turning off in one minute while on battery and none of the checkboxes for cord powered mode. There is a really freaky thing that even if you get your device to sleep with power button it will go back to screenoff mode after time specified by the turn off device slider while on battery IF you don't have that turn-off-while-on-battery checkbox checked there.
darfri said:
even if you get your device to sleep with power button it will go back to screenoff mode after time specified by the turn off device slider while on battery IF you don't have that turn-off-while-on-battery checkbox checked there.
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Thanks for the answer. But I do not really understand what you are saying here.
My power settings are: 30sec for Screen Light and 1 min for Device (on battery).
None of the check boxes is set for the case when the device is powered.
It could also be due to the battery defect. After some time the battery could lose its storage ability (because of the defect), despite the mAH stated.
As a comparison, my battery is nearly one year old. On full charge, overnight drawdown (on sleep mode) is about 2%-3% .
ungureanub said:
Hi,
Yes I've installed some software, like gAlarm, S2U2, icontact,ThumbCal, Skype, etc but last night none of them was started.
What can I do with the SD Card?! I need the SD-Card. Which card does not drain battery and which does?
I cannot turn off the phone over night.
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I have no own experiences with this programs but Skype for example needs permanent connection to internet when activated (be care of the background job!). This uses data connection and this drains battery. I can not quantify this in %. In addition Skype does not allow the system to switch to deep sleep because it needs permanent connection!
None of the app was started. I just have Skype installed, but it was not used.
Uninstall S2U2 !!!!!
nicodbgh said:
Uninstall S2U2 !!!!!
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I found some German threads that discuss a problem with this software and battery life. Some loose 10% over night others 50%. I think you should try to uninstall (and afterwards soft-reset!) for a night and see what happens.
Please keep us informed.
First of all, I've disabled the 3G. Now it only gsm with gprs. Since I've done this it seems the battery drop is ... super ok. If yesterday morning I've had 33%, this morning I've had 20%, so 13% drop in 24h, and the phone was used normally as before.
last night the S2U2 was not started.
I will wait until the battery level reaches 10% an I will do a full charge.
I will keep you informed. Thanks to all for advices!
Some clues here too ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471365&highlight=battery+3g&page=2
Hi,
So now, 2 weeks later... after setting my Jade to GSM only (no 3G) I get 7-8 days of normal usage. As I said, before I always had to charge it the third day.
Normally, i get -28mAh drain in standby. When the screen is on around -130mAh (for wake up) and then -70mAh. In a gsm call i get around -250mAh.
I did not switch the phone back to 3G yet, but I will and I will see again the battery drain.
PS: the values were provided by Mobadi.
i believe i have S2U2 installed... and my phones fine!
i have the overloaded rom... and battery life seems great only needs charging every 3 or so days and i do use it quite alot!
so...
after some time of testing and re-testing I still have, from time to time, the behavior that during night I see a massive drop in battery level and an increase of the usage time.
I do not know what is going on, but I suspect that some app is waking up the device to do some work (without turning on the screen), and the Jade cannot go to sleep anymore for a while.
I've notice the same behavior on a HTC Diamond 2.
Since none of the app I have installed on my Jade are installed on my friends Diamond2, I have no idea what app could do that.
If anybody has any idea, feel free .... I am idea-less!
I've made myself a little application to log the current values of the power data. So, I've saw that my phone wakes up each hour by himself, without turning on the screen, does some work (cca -70mA) and after 30sec goes back to sleep.
Any ideea about this?
Hey
My battery is emty every morning, and phone turned off. That is if the battery is under approx. 70-80% in the evening. Is it just a bad battery?
Anybody seen this problem before.
Hex3
Do you turn on the "Microsoft Direct Push" ?
When this feature is turned on, I also appeared that you have encountered a similar situation, but only consumes 40-50%
where can i check that, cant find it!! I have spb 3
Hex3
Look at your "Comm Manager"-"Microsoft Direct Push"
Found it. No its set to off, so thats not it. Maybe ill try a hardreset!
But thanks for the help
Hex3
hello
i have the same problem for 2 or 3 months now and i did not find a solution.
i bought a new battery but it did not help.
did you found a solution?
marbon
There is always a solution
Your device must have enabled the "turn off device" timeout (aka suspend timeout)
Don't let your device check your emails too often (once an hour is more than enough).
Use Advanced Config to enable GPRS disconnection timeout.
Don't let TF3D check for webpages updates too often.
Don't let RSS reader check for updates too often.
If your device has Wifi turned on all night, check if it turns off while your device is in suspend mode.
And of course, carefully choose applications that run in background - some of them may prevent your device from going to suspend mode.
(suspend mode is the most power-saving mode)
no, havent found the solution yet
Hex3 said:
no, havent found the solution yet
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Simply put your phone on charge and leave it like that for as long as you possibly can for as much of the time as you can.
Do not run a discharge cycle. Do not try to 'condition' the battery and as soon as you can recharge from an available power outlet.
I get 1.5 days from this and I would suggest that you should get the same.
78michel said:
What happen if you switch off your smartphone ( be carefull ....not suspend mode!)? Is the battery still draining?
Have you check the current delivered by your battery during your ''night stand by''?
The objective is to check if there is any extra leakage current in the main circuit board.
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It should not be draining when it's off, it's should actually go up (happend to me).
Hi, i have had my TD2 for nearly 2 weeks and last night i had a similar issue, however my phone was not turned off it was in sleep mode.
Charged battery to full at around 5 p.m went and stayed at my girlfriends and when i woke up this morning the battery was dead, came home plugged in the charger and got no charging light.....oh dear i thought.
So i removed the battery and the sim blew on the contacts etc to remove any possible dust put it back together and now i get a charging light and all seems to be charging ok.
The only thing i did different yesterday was that i went on google maps for the first time and selected the use gps option so it was seeking satellites, when i exited google maps i made sure it was not running in the background.
Im just wondering wether it was still using power to search for sattelites as in my information screen in power it says i have had 8 hours standby and 10 hours 52 mins device usage and i know that is not the case.
To the OP >> Maybe check in your google maps to see if you have use gps selected?
I had same problem after I flashed my phone with new radio 4.48.25.13, after that I used some other raido rom and the problem was gone.
I had the same thing happen, but only once, it was after I was using a gps app in the evening, I had problems with it, it locked up and I terminated it instead of closing it, I assume the gps stayed on and drained the battery in short order.
Hi, no i have not turned the GPS in google maps on, so thats not it. Still trying some different things to narrow it down. Its not every night now, so maybe i have been lucky.....
Same story here...
In my case even worst. I got my TD2 last friday morning. The same afternoon I inserted a new microsd card with zorro-gps installed. The day after, while I was driving with the gps turned on, the phone died. I've thought it was running out of battery, but when i plugged the charger in, I could not see the red led turn on. So I had to remove and reinsert the battery in order to see the led work properly...
Unfortunately from that point the phone is not working properly anymore. While in use it dies and I cannot restart unless I remove and reinsert the battery. The problem is that this happens every 10 minutes...
I'm trying to contact the HTC support, but they are very elusive. They asked for my phone number and they said will call me back...
Did you guys try to change the batteries and see what happen?
No, didnt change the battery. Because its not every night i dont think the battery is the problem. And further more, it began about a month ago ( td2 is approx. 3 month)
FedeR1 maybe you should try hard reset!
Hex3 said:
where can i check that, cant find it!! I have spb 3
Hex3
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If you are talking about Spb mobile shell 3.0.1 then this is a reason of the power drain.
See http://www.spbclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24616
Regards,
Stepan
Thank you Stephen, spb mobile shell is out, now we have to wait and see.
Hex3 said:
No, didnt change the battery. Because its not every night i dont think the battery is the problem. And further more, it began about a month ago ( td2 is approx. 3 month)
FedeR1 maybe you should try hard reset!
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I've already tried with hard reset... nothing
btw when I restart the phon I got the message "a problem occurred with cprog.exe" any idea?
Manila 2.5 is possible. please test it with manila 2.1.
PDA x-trem's V2.2 is best
Hi guys,
Just want to confirm with you that alarm doesn't work when phone is off. To me this is so stupid that I can't believe this is called "smart" phone. How come my prehistoric Nokia can do that?
It's so annoying to keep phone on all night for absolutely no reason, just for a sake of having alarm buzz in about 8 hours. Is this the same case with Android and iPhone?
Should your computer check for emails when it's turned off?
This is why android has deep sleep.
Sent from my x10, rocking Wolf's 2.3.3 + DooMKernel, overclocked to 1.2 GHz...
It depends what you mean by 'off'. If you mean a single short press of the power button (which actually puts the phone in Sleep mode), then, at least on my LGQ, the alarm goes off as I would expect. No probs.
If, however, you mean powered down via a long press of the power key and the display of the 'Goodbye' message, then you are truly turning off all functions of the phone and yes, the alarms would be shut off as well.
If you are putting the phone in sleep mode and the alarms are not working, I would try a soft reset of the phone, and if that doesn't fix it, maybe try a full reset then slowing adding applications to see if one is interfering with the alarm function.
Klikerko said:
Hi guys,
Just want to confirm with you that alarm doesn't work when phone is off. To me this is so stupid that I can't believe this is called "smart" phone. How come my prehistoric Nokia can do that?
It's so annoying to keep phone on all night for absolutely no reason, just for a sake of having alarm buzz in about 8 hours. Is this the same case with Android and iPhone?
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Smart phones are not meant to be turned off. The standby mode is for putting the phone to sleep, all apps go into dormant so that very little power is needed to keep the phone and messaging system functioning. If you do not want to be bothered at night by phone calls and messaging, then put the phone on silent (no sound, no vibration). The clock and alarm will still functions, and even though you put the phone into silent mode, the phone is smart enough to still sound the alarm to wake you up. I hope that this will help you.
Yup, by "off" I meant turning the phone off with long press. I'm aware I can turn phone to silent and still have alarm work but that's not convenient because I have to do reverse in the morning. Second, and more important is that while it's on the stand by phone is still checking towers for signal, waiting for a phone call, wifi is still working and phone is checking emails, etc. It's just completely unnecessary battery drain just for a privilege of having alarm sound in the morning.
My old Nokia would sound alarm when it's off and ask me if I want to turn the phone on so I was expecting the same from much smarter phone.
Does anyone know if Android or iPhone work the same way? Anyways, I'll check tomorrow morning with my colleagues. I'm eager to learn if this is WP behavior only because then I could expect update to solve the problem.
Klikerko said:
Yup, by "off" I meant turning the phone off with long press. I'm aware I can turn phone to silent and still have alarm work but that's not convenient because I have to do reverse in the morning. Second, and more important is that while it's on the stand by phone is still checking towers for signal, waiting for a phone call, wifi is still working and phone is checking emails, etc. It's just completely unnecessary battery drain just for a privilege of having alarm sound in the morning.
My old Nokia would sound alarm when it's off and ask me if I want to turn the phone on so I was expecting the same from much smarter phone.
Does anyone know if Android or iPhone work the same way? Anyways, I'll check tomorrow morning with my colleagues. I'm eager to learn if this is WP behavior only because then I could expect update to solve the problem.
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What you are describing seems to be a function of just Nokia phone, I have never seen this on any phone that I have. You are wrong about standby, it uses very little battery and all data are shut down. I have an android phone and off is off just like this LG quantum. I believe iPhone is the same. Like I said smart phone are not meant to be turned off.
@Otnos, I believe you are wrong about the stand-by. When my phone is on the stand-by (not off) I can clearly hear when email arrives on my Gmail account which means he's listening WiFi and checking emails while in stand-by. He's of course also waiting for call and sms so phone is draining battery for no reason. Also, if you set your phone to wireless sync with your laptop or desktop, and if happens they are on, phone will start syncing files even when it's in the stand-by.
I just check with colleague who has Blackberry. He set alarm at 10:47 and when he was powering off his phone he got message "Next “ON” time is 10:47am". I would say that's smart, that's how smart phone should behave.
Edit: Since I have data plan maybe my phone was checking email over 3G, not wifi.
Edit2: There is a feature request for this so if you would like to see this please vote here!
Klikerko said:
@Otnos, I believe you are wrong about the stand-by. When my phone is on the stand-by (not off) I can clearly hear when email arrives on my Gmail account which means he's listening WiFi and checking emails while in stand-by. He's of course also waiting for call and sms so phone is draining battery for no reason. Also, if you set your phone to wireless sync with your laptop or desktop, and if happens they are on, phone will start syncing files even when it's in the stand-by.
I just check with colleague who has Blackberry. He set alarm at 10:47 and when he was powering off his phone he got message "Next “ON” time is 10:47am". I would say that's smart, that's how smart phone should behave.
Edit: Since I have data plan maybe my phone was checking email over 3G, not wifi.
Edit2: There is a feature request for this so if you would like to see this please vote here!
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Actually, I suspect your Blackberry friend is also putting their phone in 'standby' mode, since power off means 'power is off' -- nothing is working any more, not even the alarms, etc.
You are right, the radios are still on during standby mode, but at a very low power consumption. If you truly do want to preserve battery by turning off the phone at night, the other option might be an inexpensive alarm clock..
otnos said:
What you are describing seems to be a function of just Nokia phone, I have never seen this on any phone that I have. You are wrong about standby, it uses very little battery and all data are shut down. I have an android phone and off is off just like this LG quantum. I believe iPhone is the same. Like I said smart phone are not meant to be turned off.
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i confirm that many old samsung phones that i had and the very recent samsung star S5230 can do that..specifically you could turn your phone off and the phone was automatically turned on from the alarm..you could snooze or dismiss..i miss that feature too..
the reason is that my battery last longer when i charge my phone while is off..
otnos said:
What you are describing seems to be a function of just Nokia phone, I have never seen this on any phone that I have. You are wrong about standby, it uses very little battery and all data are shut down. I have an android phone and off is off just like this LG quantum. I believe iPhone is the same. Like I said smart phone are not meant to be turned off.
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quite a few nokias do that and even a few LGs but I have yet to meet a Widows phone that would do that.
Shut down means a total shutdown. If alarm rings then there is something going on in background and it's not a true shutdown.
y don't you put your cellphone to offline & battery saver mode !
Thats the way it should be. How would you like if you shut down your phone & it rings in the middle of a meeting or an exam?!
Or when you are hiding in a closet, the husvand comes but your "shut down" phone raises an alarm!!!
Just cuz nokia did a mistake does not means it should be carried forward. Thank God this does not happens any more!
pranjal87 said:
Shut down means a total shutdown. If alarm rings then there is something going on in background and it's not a true shutdown.
y don't you put your cellphone to offline & battery saver mode !
Thats the way it should be. How would you like if you shut down your phone & it rings in the middle of a meeting or an exam?!
Or when you are hiding in a closet, the husvand comes but your "shut down" phone raises an alarm!!!
Just cuz nokia did a mistake does not means it should be carried forward. Thank God this does not happens any more!
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No, Nokia did it right. Android, iPhone etc. do it wrong. There are also lots of people who miss this feature with new smartphones. This was special for Nokia phones that you can totally turn off your phone but it still wakes you up - it wasnt a misstake at all. No battery consumption at nights.
Klikerko said:
Hi guys,
Just want to confirm with you that alarm doesn't work when phone is off. To me this is so stupid that I can't believe this is called "smart" phone. How come my prehistoric Nokia can do that?
It's so annoying to keep phone on all night for absolutely no reason, just for a sake of having alarm buzz in about 8 hours. Is this the same case with Android and iPhone?
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My alarm does work in my Nokia x Android phone when its completely shut down.it turns on automatically at the time when alarm is set and ring ...
"not meant to be turned off" So what happens when you're in the woods with no chargers and need your battery life? Answer that, smart guy.
It's stupid as hell. I have a samsung S390G and the alarm turns on from a complete off. My smart butt stupid new lg doesn't.
Klikerko said:
Hi guys,
Just want to confirm with you that alarm doesn't work when phone is off. To me this is so stupid that I can't believe this is called "smart" phone. How come my prehistoric Nokia can do that?
It's so annoying to keep phone on all night for absolutely no reason, just for a sake of having alarm buzz in about 8 hours. Is this the same case with Android and iPhone?
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An iPhone will turn itself on even if it has previously turned itself off due to low battery to fire the alarm off, and it will blast the alarm off as long as the battery allows it to—or if it is charged, as long as the event lasts. I think it is about half and hour, I really haven't counted the time.
I was expecting this the first day I was forced to switch to Android, I had insomnia that night and I did have to wake up early and ended up falling asleep for half an hour more, thankfully my inner worries were strong enough to wake up by myself, a little late though.
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"not meant to be turned off" So what happens when you're in the woods with no chargers and need your battery life? Answer that, smart guy.
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A smart guy carries an usb powerbank with him?
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enigma_x said:
A smart guy carries an usb powerbank with him?
l guess you're not smart enough to know how to read. l wrote "with no chargers" and batteries from chargers also run out. The situation remains as stated, adding different scenarios doesn't change the flaw of the device. Next time read before you reply.
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vferty said:
l guess you're not smart enough to know how to read.
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reason i have ipad
ps. calm down and be happy, dont take it literally... there is a sarcasm for example...
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Hi all, I have a problem with the phone i gifted to my GF. Her LG G2 during the night (only the night!) drains a lot of battery, sometimes even 60 or 70%. This happens both with KitKat and Lollipop, with wifi on or off, with airplane mode on or off. I tried even to reset the phone and install just 2 or 3 popular apps. I sent it to LG support and they changed the battery and the radio but the problem is still here. So I tried to root the phone and I installed setcpu to limit the cpu when the screen is off, and with this method the battery consumption is only of 8-10% (not perfect, but at least better).
So, if I ask LG to change the chipset they will do this? Anybody had the same problem? How the hell is possible that this happens only during the night?
Thanks.
MatrixITA said:
Hi all, I have a problem with the phone i gifted to my GF. Her LG G2 during the night (only the night!) drains a lot of battery, sometimes even 60 or 70%. This happens both with KitKat and Lollipop, with wifi on or off, with airplane mode on or off. I tried even to reset the phone and install just 2 or 3 popular apps. I sent it to LG support and they changed the battery and the radio but the problem is still here. So I tried to root the phone and I installed setcpu to limit the cpu when the screen is off, and with this method the battery consumption is only of 8-10% (not perfect, but at least better).
So, if I ask LG to change the chipset they will do this? Anybody had the same problem? How the hell is possible that this happens only during the night?
Thanks.
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Use an Application like BetterBatteryStats.
Install the apk.
Open BBS and it will prompt you to install it as a System App. Do it.
Charge your phone to 100%.
Unplug your device, turn the screen off and go to bed. (Don't touch your device during the night).
When you wake up, unlock the device and open BBS.
Sift through all the dropdown menu options, and take note of any services or apps with a high percentage.
Post results.