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Who's getting one and why?

Hey all
So the latest Nexus smartphone has gone big! Not only in size, but expected retail price. How do other members feel this stacks up with other devices? Say the Samsung Note 4 or Huawei mate 7? Is sticking to a Quad-core processor a wise choice, as so many flagships are touting an Octa-Core?
As with Nexus devices, this latest model also does not feature a micro SD card slot, for me a big omission and one reason i myself have avoided the nexus series, is this a big deal for others?
We also see a move towards AMOLED screen technology, personally i really like the vibrant colors and bright display AMOLED brings, but how do others feel about this change?
Who will be grabbing a Nexus 6 and why take this over the competition? Would also like to hear comments from those coming from the Nexus 5, is the screen size just to big a jump?
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I am getting 64gb because,
It is motorola made
It is google device
It is premium
It is top end specced
It is future proof with developer support.

I'll Eventually get one Because :
Nexus 5 is cracking up around the body.
Nexus 6 will have a metal body and wont crack up.
I can trim off an Inch of the screen to make it a better nexus 5

Nexus, that is all.

I'm thinking about upgrading my Nexus 5, but the screen size may have me back off.

I would love it but the screen is too big... I'll proally buy it tho, just cause its a nexus

IRX120 said:
I would love it but the screen is too big... I'll proally buy it tho, just cause its a nexus
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It's water resistant, if you think it's too big - use it as your umbrella as well!

I'm an Android Nut. So obv I love the Nexus Line for all of the right reasons...
But this one has my heart for Few reasons...
Phablet
QHD Screen
Snapdragon 805
3gb RAM (with stock Android... Wow)
Moto Made
SO MANY LTE bands (even band 12 on T-Mobile)
Obv great & long lasting development support
I recently ditched VZW for T-Mobile. Loving it. Have the G3, which is awesome. BUT, wet all know pure Android is where is at. SO, hard to pass this up. Plus I can use my JUMP program to get it, so as long as I put some money down up front, the larger price tag doesn't really affect me (all at once). I love phablets, went from Note 3 on VZW, to this G3. So the size isn't necessarily a hurdle for me.
Mostly tho, it's Lollipop. Biggest & best update to Android yet. And T-Mobile won't mess with the update process. So that's honestly why. Because there's absolutely nothing wrong with my G3. But I'ma nerd, and I want A nexus! Haha

My reason is that I want to move to a bigger form factor and also have the ability to have stock, vanilla Android without bloat. The funny thing is that all those that complain about the price never seem to bring up the expense of the Note 3 or other phones. With those you have serious bloat and no ability outside of root to weed it out. Don't forget you don't have to wait 3 to 6 months to get the latest Android update. Those things taken into account and the Nexus 6 looks like a pretty good deal.

Samsung kept delaying the note 4 in the UK so that it would arrive next Saturday when im leaving to Florida for a week.
So i though F**k it when the N6 was announced as it is cheaper and my warranty will not be void day 1
Although the N6 may be behind on some things, battery life, micro sd card slot and camera.

I love Nexus and have always been disappointed in the cheap feel of the N5. With the spec of the N6, its my total fantasy of an awesome phone.

Upgrading from my GNex, first time I felt it was worthy, second I'm still on VZ.
Will pull trigger after handling one in store though.
As to size, unsure yet, but anythign out there now is a bit bigger than what I came from, however I fall in line with most of the other answers:
future dev support
larger
nexus
Pure Android bliss.
While I hated moto under the JhaTool for how they locked everything down, one really cant argue - moto makes terrific HW, radios specifically.
It's likely going to happen foe me.

Because it's the next nexus...

Great phone and this community can not be beat!!

Getting Blue 64gb:
It is motorolo (I had a StarTac )
It is google 2014
It is premium
It is highend specs
It has XDA developer support!

I was going to get a phone and a tablet but why now when I can saving money and only need one device with an unmatched development community?
I've had two notes. Never removed the battery once, but I did use the SD card. With 64 gigs though, I won't need a card. I also used the MultiWindows and pen windows a lot but now I can get those features from Xposed with TouchWiz bloat and ugliness. There's nothing else the Note offers me. Maybe a slightly better camera (we'll see), but that's not a priority of mine.
The Mate 7 looked awesome, and I considered it over the Nexus, but it will have little to no development, and is only a little cheaper.

To utilize my jump. Might as well jump every six months since I'm paying for it.
And it's a nice device. I miss Motorola from three flip phone days. They always had good hardware.
G3

I haven't had a Motorola phone since the Bionic. Since then I've had the Note 2 and Note 3. I love them, but now that Moto has made a big phone, I'm really excited. Even though it's not really a productivity one.
And I've never had a Nexus, so this is perfect. Big screen like I like, quality Moto, and I can get it through a carrier.
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I was thinking about buying a Note 4 or the Note Edge, but this phone just looks amazing. I also want the biggest phone I can fit in my pocket and the fact that it will be unlocked or unlockable on Verizon also got me. The fact that it already will ship with Lollipop is better yet and will get the latest updates is another reason. I can't stand being locked down as I would be with the Samsung devices on Verizon and I can't switch to Tmobile because they have NO service in my area. This phone is gorgeous and has every specification I could ever ask for. I never used the stupid pen on my Note 2 and I never used the split screen either. I also think the price is fantastic all things considered, even though for some reason so many people are complaining about it. Nexus 6, 64gb, probably white, here I come. I never thought I would say this. Nexus got me with this phone.

My Nexus 5 got jacked few months back!! and I loved it. I was going to buy another but I held back and so I thought, I'd wait for the N6 to release before making my next purchase, I'm still reluctant though due to no known UK price but I had budgeted £450 for the release. But even this is looking unlikely with conversion from USD with VAT. So if I'm going to have to spend more, I really need to see reviews and maybe it in real life

Buy Nexus 6P now or wait (May 2016)?

Hello.
I've had a LG G2 for 2.5 years and it's been a great phone. Unfortunately I'm starting to have issues with the microphone and the phone probably needs to be replaced in the not too distant future.
I am currently in a situation where I honestly am not in a rush to buy a new phone, I prefer to have the latest and greatest (because it generally holds up better over the years) and I want a phone that'll serve me for another 2-3 years.
The Nexus 6P has a lot going for it, the display, the stereo speakers, the buttery smooth UI, sleek design and fingerprint scanner.
On the flip side, I find it a bit too big (but I can manage it) and I'm worried about how well the phone will age. I don't have much faith in the Snapdragon 810. Is it still worth buying or am I better off waiting for the next generation?
The Nexus 6p costs $630 here. I've had a look at the newest 2016 flagships and only HTC 10 caught my attention, but the price of the phone is an outrageous $830 and I cannot justify spending so much.
So, should I hop on the Nexus 6P wagon or wait for the next generation?

I'd say for you to wait. But for what? I don't see any flagships phones to be announced. Don't know. Maybe the next Nexus? Surely will be a few months away.
The CPU is not that important. At least for me. If I'd buy the Nexus 6P at this time. Probably yes, for the price and updates.

I upgraded last month to a 6P but that's because my N5 was on it's last legs and there was a sale ($500 for a 64GB 6P and they throw in a $50 gift card so it's effectively $450).
I would have waited for a 820-based 6P but it's unclear if Google will really release such a beast. I wanted a Nexus device to ensure updates for a few years so I ended pulling the trigger on the 6P when the sale was announced.

vPro97 said:
Hello.
I've had a LG G2 for 2.5 years and it's been a great phone. Unfortunately I'm starting to have issues with the microphone and the phone probably needs to be replaced in the not too distant future.
I am currently in a situation where I honestly am not in a rush to buy a new phone, I prefer to have the latest and greatest (because it generally holds up better over the years) and I want a phone that'll serve me for another 2-3 years.
The Nexus 6P has a lot going for it, the display, the stereo speakers, the buttery smooth UI, sleek design and fingerprint scanner.
On the flip side, I find it a bit too big (but I can manage it) and I'm worried about how well the phone will age. I don't have much faith in the Snapdragon 810. Is it still worth buying or am I better off waiting for the next generation?
The Nexus 6p costs $630 here. I've had a look at the newest 2016 flagships and only HTC 10 caught my attention, but the price of the phone is an outrageous $830 and I cannot justify spending so much.
So, should I hop on the Nexus 6P wagon or wait for the next generation?
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The other device to look at would be the Moto X Pure.
Processor is slower but here in the states a 64GB version for $399.

Another option came up, the Samsung Galaxy S7 for $680 - so $50 more.
The S7 has a lot going for it, like the more wieldy size, better display, good camera, waterproofing (which is more of a nice-to-have sort of thing). On the other hand I will be missing out on the quick Android updates and the stock android experience and I will get the TouchWiz UI, which I don't mind (I've been living with G2's UI for 2.5 years which isn't much better...) and I'll be missing out on the stereo speakers.
The Moto X Style is really nice, but if the SD 810 has me worried, how about the 808? I like the looks of the Moto X Style but the SD 808 and bad battery life is a deal breaker, even at the $420 price tag.

Had to get the 6P for Fi. Happy with it. I was holding out for I/O 2016 in hopes they would announce a mid year fresh with better CPU but no such thing happened. Oh well. This phone is pretty chill for me.

vPro97 said:
Hello.
I've had a LG G2 for 2.5 years and it's been a great phone. Unfortunately I'm starting to have issues with the microphone and the phone probably needs to be replaced in the not too distant future.
I am currently in a situation where I honestly am not in a rush to buy a new phone, I prefer to have the latest and greatest (because it generally holds up better over the years) and I want a phone that'll serve me for another 2-3 years.
The Nexus 6P has a lot going for it, the display, the stereo speakers, the buttery smooth UI, sleek design and fingerprint scanner.
On the flip side, I find it a bit too big (but I can manage it) and I'm worried about how well the phone will age. I don't have much faith in the Snapdragon 810. Is it still worth buying or am I better off waiting for the next generation?
The Nexus 6p costs $630 here. I've had a look at the newest 2016 flagships and only HTC 10 caught my attention, but the price of the phone is an outrageous $830 and I cannot justify spending so much.
So, should I hop on the Nexus 6P wagon or wait for the next generation?
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oh man we are in the exact same situation here ! literally ! G2 802 owner here. i was running exodus 6.0.1. it will keep you going for a little while but with lack of good camera features. i will be pulling the trigger on the 6p soon. it costs 594$ here if bought from play devices (play store), but in third party e commerce sites its about 475.. the prices will drop soon. currently its at its lowest price here. once it hits the 400$ barrier im picking it up for sure ! guaranteed updates for next 2-3 years officially another thought is that . what if the next nexus is actually cheaper than the current 6p ? (in terms of initial pricing). itll be like we bought the old device for just 10-15$ more or something.. hence till my g2 is going good, i can keep it on hold. i suggest you do the same . head over to cheapass.in , here you can track prices of the links posted from e commerce sites and it will tell mail you to inform you the price drop ive been following the 6p for a while now.
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If I would to buy it now I would do it. I got mine in January and no had no problems with it at all. i get good battery life and with the improvements android N it will be better in my opinion. I been using a V10 a few weeks as I got it for my backup/media phone since it has a sd card and while i like it especially cause the camera will be great for the future...i returned back to the 6P yesterday and i forgot how much i love it. great screen and i forgot how awesome those speakers are. the moto x pure might be a little better but still the 6P speakers are great. my only gripe is that i wish google would be a damn sd card slot but i know it will never happen but i can dream.

I came over from a G2 and haven't regretted it for a minute.
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Just had to retire my G2 D800 due to screen ghost touches. Got the 6p. Bigger but loving it so far. Not really a phone gamer, just calls, texts, and read news articles. Battery is amazing. 6-7 hours SOT.

redpirate8 said:
Just had to retire my G2 D800 due to screen ghost touches. Got the 6p. Bigger but loving it so far. Not really a phone gamer, just calls, texts, and read news articles. Battery is amazing. 6-7 hours SOT.
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Would love to know how you're managing that... I'm lucky to get over 4 hours on anything from stock to custom ROMs and kernels with Greenify, Xposed, etc. Never play games, only browsing, texting, music, and small YouTube bits here and there. My battery life has never been that great on any device like some people claim.

Only rooted. Ad blocker installed. Disabled all non essential Google apps (Chrome, Drive, Movies and TV, Books, Games, and Photos). I use Tinfoil for Facebook instead of the stock app and Opera Mini. I don't need emails delivered immediately so all syncing is turned off. And turned off Googles 'Back up my data' in Backup and Reset since there seems to be a bug with it eating away battery in some of the other forums. I don't need Google Now and disabled the voice activation in Search. At this very moment, I've got 7.5 SOT with 12% battery left.

We are literaly in the same exact situation, I've had my G2 for about 2 years now and I recently rooted it and flashed Google Edition 1.5 ROM + Dorimanx kernel which kinda revived my phone and Its now way smoother with better battery life, that being said I cant see myself keeping this phone after the summer's done and I've been looking for a potential replacement. The HTC 10 looks perfect on paper: similar size, better specs, better build quality but since it just came out Its too expensive for me, looking at last year's flagships the nexus 6p seems the best of the lot but it's just so damn big and my hands are kinda small. At this point I really cant decide if I should get a 6P in like August or wait a year or so until I can afford the HTC 10.Btw if anybody knows some other reasonably priced 5.2-5.3 inch phone with atleast 3 gigs of ram and a cpu equivalent to a 810 please let me know.

raoufsb said:
We are literaly in the same exact situation, I've had my G2 for about 2 years now and I recently rooted it and flashed Google Edition 1.5 ROM + Dorimanx kernel which kinda revived my phone and Its now way smoother with better battery life, that being said I cant see myself keeping this phone after the summer's done and I've been looking for a potential replacement. The HTC 10 looks perfect on paper: similar size, better specs, better build quality but since it just came out Its too expensive for me, looking at last year's flagships the nexus 6p seems the best of the lot but it's just so damn big and my hands are kinda small. At this point I really cant decide if I should get a 6P in like August or wait a year or so until I can afford the HTC 10.Btw if anybody knows some other reasonably priced 5.2-5.3 inch phone with atleast 3 gigs of ram and a cpu equivalent to a 810 please let me know.
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I had an HTC 10, 6P, and S7 Edge all at the same time. I currently only have the 6P and S7 Edge - trying to decide which to keep.
The 10 was a good phone. But here's what killed it for me... the LCD and the size, mostly. The LCD is great for an LCD. But it's still an LCD, and it's terrible compared to OLED. The 6P and S7E are just so much better to look at, even in sRGB modes where they aren't oversaturated. Having pure black is something most people don't appreciate until they see it on a 55"+ TV in front of them. I have a $4,000 4K OLED TV, and I can never go back. The same holds true with even a small smartphone display - you use the display more than anything. It better look damn good. Also, even if I could get past the contrast, there were 2 other major issues I had with it. Number 1, the motion blur was TERRIBLE! It might not actually be that bad in the LCD world, but OLED has practically instant pixel response. That in itself removes a LOT of motion blur until we get 120+Hz smartphone panels - it's coming, just you wait! Also, the 10's display had a pink/red tint to it, 24/7. Holding it next to the 6P or S7E, this was obvious. And after years of having large phablets, I really couldn't go back to using a 5.2" screen.
Everything else about the 10 is something to love. The design is incredible. The camera is great. The DAC/amp are great. The speakers were great. The speed of the device, the factory go-ahead to root/unlock, the fingerprint sensor, the feel in the hand... all awesome. But none of these good qualities could make up for its worst, and that was the display.

vPro97 said:
Hello.
I've had a LG G2 for 2.5 years and it's been a great phone. Unfortunately I'm starting to have issues with the microphone and the phone probably needs to be replaced in the not too distant future.
I am currently in a situation where I honestly am not in a rush to buy a new phone, I prefer to have the latest and greatest (because it generally holds up better over the years) and I want a phone that'll serve me for another 2-3 years.
The Nexus 6P has a lot going for it, the display, the stereo speakers, the buttery smooth UI, sleek design and fingerprint scanner.
On the flip side, I find it a bit too big (but I can manage it) and I'm worried about how well the phone will age. I don't have much faith in the Snapdragon 810. Is it still worth buying or am I better off waiting for the next generation?
The Nexus 6p costs $630 here. I've had a look at the newest 2016 flagships and only HTC 10 caught my attention, but the price of the phone is an outrageous $830 and I cannot justify spending so much.
So, should I hop on the Nexus 6P wagon or wait for the next generation?
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Is stock Android a must for you? If the answer is no, then there are already better phones out and more on the way if you want to wait a bit longer.
Also, I know people here don't want to hear this again, but I have severe doubts that the 6P is a 2-3 year phone. It's just not built that way unfortunately to be completely honest. I would keep that in mind while you decide.

No phone is a 2-3 year phone. And if there's one it's the 6P because of the updates policy. Samsung is surely out of the equation in that matter.

joooe said:
No phone is a 2-3 year phone. And if there's one it's the 6P because of the updates policy. Samsung is surely out of the equation in that matter.
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Tell Apple, Samsung, LG users, etc that. There are plenty of 2-3 year capable phones out there. How many 2-3 year users there are is an entirely different question.
I still know plenty of people out there with iPhone 4s, 5, Galaxy S4, S5, LG G2 & G3's out there. And not to leave Nexus users out, I still know people with Nexus 5's out there.
So I wouldn't say there isn't one out there. And in my opinion, the 6P won't be one of them. There are already too many threads with issues. Only time will tell on the 6P.

So you had severe doubts that the 6P was a 2-3 year phone, but now you're quoting a bunch of them. I think you're a bit confused.

Any phone can be a 2-3 year phone. Just depends how much the person is a tech fanatic and appreciates the latest and greatest. My buddy is using an S5 still... I couldn't do it, but he never complains.

I've had the 6P for about 6 months and have been very satisfied with it. Coming from the Nexus 5 I was also worried about the size but I got used to it quickly. I'm not sure I would want anything bigger though. If you're wanting a Nexus you could wait for the next one but you never know what they'll do next. I bought my Nexus 5 when I realized the then soon to be released Nexus 6 was going to be so huge.
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Maze Alpha info + benchmarks [AnTuTu, Geekbench, Epic Citadel, Androbench etc.]

Received the Maze Alpha a couple of days ago and have been running some benchmark tests. (3DMark to be added)
Figured I'd share them and if anyone has any questions/wants me to check something, please let me know
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Vellamo

Thanks ! interesting, i am awaiting mine looking forward to testing it myself.

Thanks for sharing, in www.kimovil.com shows antutu score as 80.000, yours is more realistic.

dimmebd said:
Thanks for sharing, in www.kimovil.com shows antutu score as 80.000, yours is more realistic.
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No problem
Kimovil is a great site in terms of being an index of phones and tablets. However, the information provided is often lackluster and sometimes even wrong, unfortunately. I find devicespecifications.com and china-prices.com to be more reliable.

Got mine yesterday... it's like a toy VS the Mi Mix... performances are very poor and the UI is a stock, at all with just a few customizations.

Got mine a few days ago... the Mi Mix is indeed a better phone in every way but it also cost 2-3 times more.
That said, like many of the Chinese phones out there today, it advertises a lot, delivers mediocre performance and features.
For the money, its a nice looking phone, totally stock android.
Terrible camera, very heavy (may be the heaviest smartphone I've ever used).
Slippery as heck - how on earth can any company release a phone especially one that is as hard to hold as the Alpha and not have any cases available for them??
After years of using so many flagships ie Galaxy Note 3, 5, S7 Edge, Nexus 6P, Pixel, Huawei Mate 9m P9, LG G4 V10 V20, Mi Mix, as well as tons of Japanese market models (I live in Japan), I've been trying out some of these more budget friendly models and as you all know they are not all created equally but all their manufacturers try to market unbelievable features for the price.
While they perform admirably in some cases I've learned to deal with many bugs, QA issues, and others surprises.
So far the Maze isn't bad especially for the money. It has its quirks and bugs but along with the other phone I'm using as dual daily drivers now (Umidigi Z1 Pro)... I have been getting by... lol.

gocchin said:
Got mine a few days ago... the Mi Mix is indeed a better phone in every way but it also cost 2-3 times more.
Terrible camera, very heavy (may be the heaviest smartphone I've ever used).
Slippery as heck - how on earth can any company release a phone especially one that is as hard to hold as the Alpha and not have any cases available for them??
So far the Maze isn't bad especially for the money. It has its quirks and bugs but along with the other phone I'm using as dual daily drivers now (Umidigi Z1 Pro)... I have been getting by... lol.
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How does it surprise you the phone is heavy? All information was readily available.
I agree that the camera performance isn't that great - need to mess around with manual settings to get proper shots or wait for further OTA updates (didn't they promise Android O on Facebook? We'll see what happens with that).
Should the cases have been ready before launch? Yes.
In Maze's defense, you can say it's still a new company - the Alpha is just the second product in the company's portfolio. Considering being a new player, Maze has done well so far and what I like is the company's isn't pushing 2-3 new phones every other month, which - hopefully - means the current portfolio of products will receive OTA updates and be maintained.

Palm Trees said:
How does it surprise you the phone is heavy? All information was readily available.
I agree that the camera performance isn't that great - need to mess around with manual settings to get proper shots or wait for further OTA updates (didn't they promise Android O on Facebook? We'll see what happens with that).
Should the cases have been ready before launch? Yes.
In Maze's defense, you can say it's still a new company - the Alpha is just the second product in the company's portfolio. Considering being a new player, Maze has done well so far and what I like is the company's isn't pushing 2-3 new phones every other month, which - hopefully - means the current portfolio of products will receive OTA updates and be maintained.
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Thanks for the reply!
I never said the weight was a surprise. I'm just stating my observation. It is the heaviest phone I have used and its slippery!
For a new company the quality is actually very good... some other names who have been around longer could learn a thing or two.
As I said, I'm getting by with it as my daily... though would feel much better if I had a case!
Have you had issues with the adaptive brightness? I'm hoping its something they can fine tune in the next update.... slow to respond to lighting changes if at all.... and in pitch darkness it still does not go all the way down.
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By the way thanks to Palm Trees for taking the time to put up all those tests. It really helps people get a non biased view of performance.
I hope you don't mind if I add a few more observations that people might find useful since there is so little info on the web besides the promotional press.
- Notifications work on the Alpha - as some of you can probably relate to, not all phones deliver notifications timely and reliably - but the Alpha does. (running my Z1 Pro at the same time sometimes see the same notifications come 10 min later or not at all)
- Bluetooth is reliable and stays connected. Currently paired to my LG Watch Urbane 2nd and its solid.
- GPS is acceptable which is more than many phones can provide (ie I had a Oneplus 3t before, and the GPS was garbage... slow to connect and could not stay connected and totally inaccurate - which is too bad cause I loved the 3t). The Alpha GPS locks on but there is a bit of drift here and there even in wide open circumstances. I test phones vigorously for GPS as the tall buildings and expressway ramps in Tokyo prove to be a great challenge and at the same time I test them in the suburbs where I live and there is much less interference. (honestly the Umi Z1 Pro has really good GPS!)
-Wifi range is below average. I'm 1m from my router and can't even get full bars. 10-15m away and throughput already starts failing.... not good.

gocchin said:
By the way thanks to Palm Trees for taking the time to put up all those tests. It really helps people get a non biased view of performance.
I hope you don't mind if I add a few more observations that people might find useful since there is so little info on the web besides the promotional press.
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No problem - happy to share and help
Sure, add as much you want to
I wont use it as a daily driver till I get a case. But of course I play around with the phone, more benchmarks will be added today as well.

Palm Trees said:
I wont use it as a daily driver till I get a case.
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Question is when will cases come out??
I have a hard time leaving a new toy on the bench so I matched the dimensions to another phone here in Japan and am using that case though the camera lenses are covered (which is fine cause the camera is not usable for me anyway).

gocchin said:
Question is when will cases come out??
I have a hard time leaving a new toy on the bench so I matched the dimensions to another phone here in Japan and am using that case though the camera lenses are covered (which is fine cause the camera is not usable for me anyway).
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Very soon it seems
https://www.facebook.com/MazeMobileGlobal/posts/1905055229745062

Added to OP: PCMark Work 2.0 battery life (full screen brightness) + Vellamo

root?
got my Alpha a few days ago. been looking for a way to root it. none of the one click rooters work.
anyone have any insight into whether this phone will get rooted soon? does root have to be developed for each phone separately or can they be ported over etc.?

If we could get a working TWRP RECOVERY, it would be easy to Root the maze alpha...
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Wrong Firmware on needrom!
Just an information for all who wants to flash the firmware or wants to port a TWRP recovery, the stockrom you'll find on needrom as maze alpha it's wrong!
This is doogee mix firmware!
Some stupid joke for the uploader!? Don't know.

I wrote an email to mazemobile about the wrong firmware an needrom.
They answered, that they don't upload this rom themselves! Maybe they will upload the stockromm on mazemobile.com but they don't know when....It's hard work..... Lol
So it will not possible to port a TWRP and impossible to root the maze alpha next time!
Sell it if you a root user!

I see that case Is now available in AliExpress at around 5 usd. The case material is not clear, but it looks tailored made for the phone protecting only the corners and the back of the phone.
http://s.aliexpress.com/uuYb6B7v

idanra said:
I see that case Is now available in AliExpress at around 5 usd. The case material is not clear, but it looks tailored made for the phone protecting only the corners and the back of the phone.
http://s.aliexpress.com/uuYb6B7v
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I asked Maze and that's the exact same link they sent to me, so I've ordered one

Guys,
Anyone knows how to fix the very low intensity of the vibration. I can't feel it in my pocket and I miss calls...
Anyone succeeded in rooting the device and trying to increase the motor speed?
Thanks...

RE: Maze Alpha bugs (vibration, etc)
Maze claims that volume, brightness and battery issues have been resolved in the latest official build (08/16). Perhaps vibration issues have been fixed too, as Maze claims other "optimizations". This build should also have the August security patches:
https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/0B8XLZxEJR8alOXVrdTZ1ZjdPdDA
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/rom-maze-alpha-v0520170816-t3659190
BTW: Maze Alpha cases are all over eBay now. Wish someone would make something other than the checkerboard pattern... just a matter of being patient...

Are you switching /interesting for OnePlus 7 Pro

So guys oneplus 7 pro is just around the corner(less than a months before resealed)and according to latest news it will be the most advanced and of course the most expensive version in oneplus history.
Personal talking after after my 9 month usage of 5T I'm returning back to Oneplus since skipped both 6/6T as I hate whatever notch shape inside screen.
The latest rumors saying about major upgrade over all previous oneplus devices.
https://www.gizmochina.com/2019/04/...-variants-and-display-camera-battery-details/
https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/22/18510546/oneplus-7-5g-display-specs-pro-ceo-release
https://twitter.com/Samsung_News_/status/1120330004464832513
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Also OP7 Pro will offer stereo speakers as well type c 3.1 version.
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Only way I'll switch to it if they fix all the issues that's been plaguing them since the first device.
SW and Sources need to improve too..

Having a HTC phone every year for almost 2 decades, finally switched to the 6T. I have no complaints about OnePlus other than the camera software. Easily solved by switching to GCam. I am looking forward to the 7 Pro. Full screen, QHD with 90hz refresh. Pop up camera, I don't take a thousand selfies a day and welcome it. No damn worrying about it breaking, too slow or getting lint in there. I take care of my devices so if it does have curves sides, awesome. I use Shortcutter a lot so that would extra real estate for me and maybe a nice side panel notification area.

You might as well buy a Samsung Galaxy s10 for the price a op7 pro will cost,
Have a OnePlus 6T at the moment but it is pretty boring with no new/needed features ever added.
Looking at the Samsung a70/a80 now as being better and more affordable than the direction Oneplus are going

manus31 said:
You might as well buy a Samsung Galaxy s10 for the price a op7 pro will cost,
Have a OnePlus 6T at the moment but it is pretty boring with no new/needed features ever added.
Looking at the Samsung a70/a80 now as being better and more affordable than the direction Oneplus are going
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Well you should know that for many people it's not matter of how much cost one device compared to another but they are looking and take attention for a more important differentation between devices.
For example oneplus a very respective user base target group they don't care for Sammy or Huawei or Apple at all.
They don't care for dealing with One UI or EMIU or ios no matter they cost.
They are simple loving and prefer Oxygen and near stock android experience or simple prefer oneplus device because of the freedom brings.
Another reason is because many users hate notch or punch hols and prefer full screen experience.
So why should Sammy or Huawei be a choice for them??
Simple It is not all matter of cost or in other words I could say that some give more value to things that may have less value to other people.
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Nope, this is clearly where I get off the OnePlus train... Popup camera that just seems like is going to break, I still miss my head phone jack way more than I thought I would, if I'm going to keep paying more and more for a phone, why am I going to keep compromising...

manus31 said:
You might as well buy a Samsung Galaxy s10 for the price a op7 pro will cost,
Have a OnePlus 6T at the moment but it is pretty boring with no new/needed features ever added.
Looking at the Samsung a70/a80 now as being better and more affordable than the direction Oneplus are going
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You couldn't pay me to take a Samsung.

90 Hz refresh rate , UFS 3.0 storage, 4000 mAh with 30W charging, OxygenOS...."quite tasty".
And then no ingress protection, pop-up camera, not so useful 5G(yet) but higher price tag for it...not so tasty.

Op7 lookin boring ish, 7 pro does sounds cool from the leaks etc, but if they push it over 700 quid , no thank u, whole idea behind op was affordable devices with flagships specs etc, got a feeling that 7 pro is only a 5G model... Hope im wrong

I would take only if they release one pro model without 5G.. I wouldn't pay $100-$200 more for 5G which isn't ready yet...

Nope. I have decided to upgrade every 2-3 years at least. 5g won't be ready for another 1-2 at least so no point. Very happy with 6T and the support it's getting at xda

radekmazur said:
Nope. I have decided to upgrade every 2-3 years at least. 5g won't be ready for another 1-2 at least so no point. Very happy with 6T and the support it's getting at xda
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Definitely ,the whole 5G thing is stupid for most users (by far majority ) can't avail of the technology yet.
Why drive up prices with such useless feature just to say OnePlus is one of first with 5g enabled device,
what BS

manus31 said:
Definitely ,the whole 5G thing is stupid for most users (by far majority ) can't avail of the technology yet.
Why drive up prices with such useless feature just to say OnePlus is one of first with 5g enabled device,
what BS
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There will be three devices.
7
7 Pro
7 Pro 5G
I have no desire to switch.
I just got my 6T at the end of last year.

7 = NO !!! (they say it look the same like 6t)
7 Pro = Yes.
7 Pro 5G = ?!?... 5g not ok for now. = BIG price.

99.9% will be 3 variant.
1. Regular familiar to 6T design with upgrade SOC as basic differentation with 6T
2. Pro with premium features but without 5G
3. Pro the same as the second but with 5G and very limited availability(2-3 country in Europe will be released not in US through)
Of course I'm only interesting on Pro version but without 5G as totally useless for 1-2 years at minimum.
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So, why switch now if 5G will be ready in 1-2 years? If you have 6T you are good until 5G is ready. By then there will be plenty of 5G phones and prices will go down.
Don't get sucked in now into new features.
Phones are very expensive these days, save your money or put in Roth IRA, pay yourself first

As someone that owned an htc thunderbolt when Verizon's 4g network went live. Man the battery was killed on that 4g. Wondering if the same battery killing will happen on the 5g
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ozzmanj1 said:
As someone that owned an htc thunderbolt when Verizon's 4g network went live. Man the battery was killed on that 4g. Wondering if the same battery killing will happen on the 5g
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Guess we will have to wait until 2020 to tell, lol.
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radekmazur said:
So, why switch now if 5G will be ready in 1-2 years? If you have 6T you are good until 5G is ready. By then there will be plenty of 5G phones and prices will go down.
Don't get sucked in now into new features.
Phones are very expensive these days, save your money or put in Roth IRA, pay yourself first
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That's why everyone stated they will be leaning towards the 7 Pro withOUT 5G.

Nope. OP6T works, and this new one will be more expensive, and not have any substantial benefits, that would get me to buy it.
More power, not needed, brighter screen, not needed, fancy design not needed. For me, a phone is a tool. An extension of work. After work, unless someone calls me, I rarely touch it. It's "just a phone".
I know some get caught up in the newest fancy design & style, but, to me, it's "just a phone".

I am nearly 100% I will purchase the OnePlus 7 Pro (non-5G version). Specs / 90Hz display seems awesome!

Samsung Note 4 Motherboard replacement

Hello everyone, I recently got a great deal off ebay for a Note 4 with like new accessories, but unfortunately the phone was sold not working as it would turn on and a pc won't recognize it. The last known error shown was emmc failure and since i have no wy of testing the motherboard what would be my best option, buying used motherboard or a new one from China? I know that you can only swap out motherboards from the same series, but is there any equivalent motherboard that could work possibly? Any advice would be welcome Thank you all for reading. Cheers

Try Amazon. The part numbers must match.
I don't trust any phone mobo replacements from China unless the phone was made there... even then

blackhawk said:
Try Amazon. The part numbers must match.
I don't trust any phone mobo replacements from China unless the phone was made there... even then
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Hi Blackhawk, thanks for the reply (as always) There is a sticker I could check on the motherboard that might identify the part number, but what do you think the chances are of finding a new replacement after all these years? I agree that chinese motherboards are of doubtful quality at best, but unfortunately Amazon & Ebay are full of these motherboards and they seem the only ones available. Has anyone here on Xda ever modded another motherboard for this purpose?

The Weeping Angel said:
Hi Blackhawk, thanks for the reply (as always) There is a sticker I could check on the motherboard that might identify the part number, but what do you think the chances are of finding a new replacement after all these years? I agree that chinese motherboards are of doubtful quality at best, but unfortunately Amazon & Ebay are full of these motherboards and they seem the only ones available. Has anyone here on Xda ever modded another motherboard for this purpose?
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You're welcome.
Ufixit is now partnered with Samsung to provide OEM parts to the end users. Wahoo!
The PN# is stamped right on the PCB.

blackhawk said:
You're welcome.
Ufixit is now partnered with Samsung to provide OEM parts to the end users. Wahoo!
The PN# is stamped right on the PCB.
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Thanks for the suggestion Blackhawk. Unfortunately all the motherboards are sold out and the N910F model wasn't available. I'll check the motherboard part sticker attached but i'm really doubtful they manufacture the parts anymore. I guess I'll just have to jump in and go with a chinese motherboard. Has anyone here had any experience with one?

I would not use the N910F variant unless a user can verify it would work!
Be patient and what for a reliable vendor to have the OEM replacement.
You could get one on ebay if it has a good imei either as a mobo or complete unit.
In it's day the N4 was outstanding. Consider a N10+, it's the zenith of all Notes. The Beast runs like a bat out of hell and is gorgeous. You lose the 3.5mm jack but get up to 1tb of fast expandable storage. However a new one would be loaded with Android 10, very less likely 9 depending on manufacturer date. Used ones will have 11 or 12; these aren't as desirable in my opinion.

I understand your sentiments exactly. I'm hoping someone can come forward and verify that the motherboards for sale from the chinese vendors are fully functional. The unit I bought from ebay came with four batteries which is what I really needed and since the non working Note 4 was included, repairing it woukd be a real bonus. I did consider the S10+, Note 10+, & Note 9 as possible replacements, but the fact that I can record calls, use the I.R. as a remote ( it's really useful ), native screen mirroring and change batteries really ticks all the boxes for me. I see all these new phones with fragile screens and screen burns and it just puts me off .

You lose the IR blaster, they are cool. Taking out the 3.5 mm was a Note back step.
The N10+'s battery isn't a 30 second job but it's not too bad.
The AMOLED display will put hair on your chest, it's gorgeous and immersive. Works well in no light rooms. I run mine at 30-40% manual brightness normally and avoid going over 50% except briefly if needed. Used as such it will last many years and also greater improves SOT.
True blacks and infinite contrast are beautiful things.
The real kicks are the processor speed and ram.
It's a good balance between processing power and battery life, something that slips away in latter models. The variable refresh rate displays and 5G also eat battery like crazy. Being able to slam a 1tb V30 rated SD card in it though really makes my day. The N9 is noticeably slower in real life use, anything that came after the N10+ is barely noticeably faster.
You'd enjoy the speed, power, a much better UI and the killer display. The spen also be an upgrade is functionality. I use the bt on it as a remote cam shutter release. I went from a S4+ to the N10+, it was a huge learning curve. Kitkat to Pie, oh my... that made my head spin at first.
The N10+ needs to be cased or it will get messed up. Been using the Zizo Bolt case and Gorilla IQ Sheild screen protector for over 2 years now, zero damage. The case makes it much easier to handle and helps prevent accidental side touches. Its sucked up a dozen 1- 4 foot drops onto concrete, face plants and lots of corner hits.
It's a completely different device so not sure how you feel about it. It remains my weapon of choice.
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I want to thank you for your considerations Blackhawk. I can understand why the Note10+ is so appealing, and your considerations are really valid and help put the rest about screen damage and phone protection, which is really a major worry for me. My phone has fallen countless times and never sustained structural damage. I also love your ability to expand your storage but the 5G battery drain is a big letdown. Maybe the fact that I can dismantle the phone and mod the software endears me to the Note 4 I found a white sticker under the mainboard, copied both sets of numbers on Google but no part number came out in the search. Also tried scanning the barcode and nothing came out either. Any suggestions for me Blackhawk?

The Weeping Angel said:
I want to thank you for your considerations Blackhawk. I can understand why the Note10+ is so appealing, and your considerations are really valid and help put the rest about screen damage and phone protection, which is really a major worry for me. My phone has fallen countless times and never sustained structural damage. I also love your ability to expand your storage but the 5G battery drain is a big letdown. Maybe the fact that I can dismantle the phone and mod the software endears me to the Note 4 I found a white sticker under the mainboard, copied both sets of numbers on Google but no part number came out in the search. Also tried scanning the barcode and nothing came out either. Any suggestions for me Blackhawk?
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You're welcome. 5G isn't on the Snapdragon variants of the N10+; N975U, N975U1.
Teardown is possible but not near as easy as the N4. Rooting is not possible with the Snapdragon version. The Exynos model can be rooted but has an inferior chipset/heatsink. The SM-N975F/DS is the 5G variant of the Exynos series, the rest are 4G I believe. Rather convoluted
A completely different animal in many ways from the N4.
On newer Samsung's the PN# is imprinted on the boards I believe. Not sure about the N4. That may be a batch number you're looking at. Go by full model number, generally there are two variants "I think" for phones from that era. Poke around doing some Google searches you should find more details. Many are still playing with the N4. Buying a working N4 of the same model would also give you a parts queen and may be your best solution.
Samsung's members forum may have the answers you need including about the Chinese part.

blackhawk said:
You're welcome. 5G isn't on the Snapdragon variants of the N10+; N975U, N975U1.
Teardown is possible but not near as easy as the N4. Rooting is not possible with the Snapdragon version. The Exynos model can be rooted but has an inferior chipset/heatsink. The SM-N975F/DS is the 5G variant of the Exynos series, the rest are 4G I believe. Rather convoluted
A completely different animal in many ways from the N4.
On newer Samsung's the PN# is imprinted on the boards I believe. Not sure about the N4. That may be a batch number you're looking at. Go by full model number, generally there are two variants "I think" for phones from that era. Poke around doing some Google searches you should find more details. Many are still playing with the N4. Buying a working N4 of the same model would also give you a parts queen and may be your best solution.
Samsung's members forum may have the answers you need including about the Chinese part.
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Hello Blackhawk, tried going through The samsung members forum and through two samsung service centers; One wouldn't consider a repair because of the issues that arose for the Note even after replacing the motherboard,while the other salesperson quoted a 295 euro cost, kindly noting that for the price I could buy a new phone altogether. Neither would indicate the model number for the motherboard, one citing "anti-terrorist" motives. Luckily I found a Note 4 with a broken screen and functional motherboard that should arrive in a few days. Keeping my fingers crossed Will update on how it goes. I'm also reflecting that in the near future I might have to consider an upgrade.

The Weeping Angel said:
Hello Blackhawk, tried going through The samsung members forum and through two samsung service centers; One wouldn't consider a repair because of the issues that arose for the Note even after replacing the motherboard,while the other salesperson quoted a 295 euro cost, kindly noting that for the price I could buy a new phone altogether. Neither would indicate the model number for the motherboard, one citing "anti-terrorist" motives. Luckily I found a Note 4 with a broken screen and functional motherboard that should arrive in a few days. Keeping my fingers crossed Will update on how it goes. I'm also reflecting that in the near future I might have to consider an upgrade.
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I still have my S4+, always liked Kitkat but compared to the N10+ it's painfully slow. The display is usable but that's about it. If you want a to replace the N4 with another Note, you want to go with a N10+ or if you want 5G, the N20U. The N9 is noticeably slower than the N10+. The N20U's form factor sucks. Actual real time speed improves are marginal after the N10+. You want 12gb of ram, not 6 or 8. Any flagship after the N20U isn't a Note and doesn't have expandable storage. Oddly some of the midrange Samsung's do have expandable storage.
Maybe Samsung will get their sorry act together in 2 years. Right now they've haven't done squat for almost 3 years and instead have produced less than desirable flagships in my opinion.
With that in mind I dug in for another 2-3+ years with the N10+. I will likely continue to run on Android 9 and 10 as well. A near zero learning curve also means more playtime with the device instead of dealing with workarounds and forced learning to use a new OS version effectively.

blackhawk said:
I still have my S4+, always liked Kitkat but compared to the N10+ it's painfully slow. The display is usable but that's about it. If you want a to replace the N4 with another Note, you want to go with a N10+ or if you want 5G, the N20U. The N9 is noticeably slower than the N10+. The N20U's form factor sucks. Actual real time speed improves are marginal after the N10+. You want 12gb of ram, not 6 or 8. Any flagship after the N20U isn't a Note and doesn't have expandable storage. Oddly some of the midrange Samsung's do have expandable storage.
Maybe Samsung will get their sorry act together in 2 years. Right now they've haven't done squat for almost 3 years and instead have produced less than desirable flagships in my opinion.
With that in mind I dug in for another 2-3+ years with the N10+. I will likely continue to run on Android 9 and 10 as well. A near zero learning curve also means more playtime with the device instead of dealing with workarounds and forced learning to use a new OS version effectively.
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I successfully installed the "new motherboard" on the old Note 4 but it was quite the adventure I took the Note 4 apart and lo & behold, under the hood was a chinese motherboard! wan't very happy about this as the Note 4 was advertised as original but i noticed that the touchscreen attached was not a original samsung part and told the seller so. He was very apologetic and told me he must have been screwed over and it wasn't his intention to be misleading and offered me a refund. I decided to go ahead anyway and install the motherboard and initially the s-pen wouldn,t work, which left me really disappointed & resigned to the fact that the chinese motherboard was defective in some way. After repeatedly assembling and dissamembling the phone, i googled the problem on Youtube and found a wonderful solution by
"Bruno Jeanbruno"; basically you stick a piece of cardboard or whatever under the s-pen connector so the contacts connect perfectly and there you go lol. Now the only thing i have to work out is how to resolve flashing a new recovery as it always reverts to the custom android recovery, even after trying Bryan48765 solution. this truly was a frustrating and amusing experience which highlited that this will probably be the last time I attempt maintanence on the Note 4 as it is really hard to try to find workarounds and such to keep maintaning it, even though it will be hard to give up the removable battery. I really believe that all smartphone companies are just towing the line & don't give a damn anymore on making devices that people can really enjoy.

Yay!
That's why I went with new N10+'s; you know what hardware you're getting and a 1 year warranty from date of purchase. A lot of shady things happening with used devices especially lately. I stay with stock Samsung's for the features, predictability and easier troubleshooting.
The batteries aren't that big a deal. I can do one in about 30 minutes. Literally that's the only repair I made on the oldest N10+. They're built solid and if kept in a good case like the Zizo Bolt will last for many years with heavy usage.
7.9 mm thick with all that processor power and 12gb of ram isn't too shabby at all.