Pixel 2 XL setup for dual carriers using fi on eSIM - Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion

One of my favorite of the many cool features in Pixel 2's is the addition of an eSIM. 100% love everything about this device: Pixel 2 XL Running beta 8.1, rooted, and dual SIM's!
Anyone else rocking dual SIM's? or using FiSwitch, or other apps to switch between SIM's?
I'm running a Verizon physical SIM (Work's unlimited plan) and joined my family's fi account using the Pixel 2 XL's eSIM for a whopping $25.
fi was easy to setup on their web site. The Wife and Kid were already sharing 2 gigs data. They occasionally would go over 2 gigs, fi automatically adds data @ $10 per gig, and credits back unused leftovers above base.
The base Plan is $30, add additional members @ $25 each. My plan for three devices is $80 total, with 3Gigs of data to share. We are all on WiFi most of the time. When we travel together, I usually turn on Verizon hotspot to save on fi data.
At work I roam around into some iffy network locations, some almost daily, where I lose Verizon service. I stay on Verizon until I go into one of the Verizon dead spots. Then I can switch to the fi eSIM, which usually finds service between one of the three fi carriers in my area. If I travel abroad I'm all set, just tap the screen a few times and jump onto the fi eSIM. It only takes about 20 seconds for the network to switch between the SIM's.
I use Signal messaging, so all of text messages come through on either SIM.
I use a very cool app FiSwitch by XDA forum member @dwitherell to change carriers within the Fi network, and soon it will have a shortcut to switch SIM's.
The persistent notification tile can show lots of nerdy network info. FiSwitch creator @dwitherell is rocking a Pixel 2 XP too. He is planning to add a shortcut to the carrier SIM switch on the next update to FiSwitch. This will make it very easy to switch from SIM to eSIM within his App
Attached are some thumbnails of Pixel2's Dual SIM screens and fiSwitch in action.
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I hope other will post there setups, and if they use FiSwitch or one of the the other switching apps.
If you know someone that's already on Fi, you might consider asking them for a referral. Then you and your friend can each get a $20 credit after the first month. That's better than a poke in the eye

Wow, so I didn't even think that the e-sim in this phone would act as a dual SIM set up. That's awesome.
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This is awesome! Kudos

I just activated my FI number from my 6p onto my 2XL as discussed above and all is good to go as second carrier. Great idea. Also, switching back to the other phone is just as painless. Nice to have options!

I have a nexus 6p running project fi,
Now since I bought the Pixel XL 2 off Google store.
Can I activate dual carriers like OP, but also get calls on my Nexus 6P?
Right now I use Verizon on the 2XL and Fi with Call forwarding so both phones ring at the same time.
I also use the Nexus for International calls. I think I would have to activate another number to keep my 6P running Fi. Then have dual SIM on the 2XL and turn off call forwarding.
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silesraf said:
I have a nexus 6p running project fi,
Now since I bought the Pixel XL 2 off Google store.
Can I activate dual carriers like OP, but also get calls on my Nexus 6P?
Right now I use Verizon on the 2XL and Fi with Call forwarding so both phones ring at the same time.
I also use the Nexus for International calls. I think I would have to activate another number to keep my 6P running Fi. Then have dual SIM on the 2XL and turn off call forwarding.
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You would need a data only sim for the N6p. This can be ordered for free through the Project Fi app on your phone, under 'Manage Plan'. It shares the data plan with you main device (Pixel 2 XL) so no complicated bill. On your Pixel 2 XL, open the Google Hangouts app settings. Under 'Account' select the account associated with you Project Fi account. Look for 'Messages' under 'Project Fi calls and SMS', and toggle that On. This will let you send and receive SMS/MMS from any device that is logged into Hangouts with your account, even your PC, and you main device can be turned off.
When the data-only sim arrives, activate it and put it in your N6p. Install the Google Hangouts and Google Hangouts Dialer apps. Now you can send and receive SMS/MMS through Hangouts. To receive calls go to Hangouts settings, under 'Account' select the account associated with you Project Fi account. Look for "Incoming phone calls" and toggle that to on. If this is missing just back out of the Hangouts app, then open back to the same settings screen, it should be there now. Now you can receive calls on you N6p. To place calls, open the Hangouts Dialer. Now you can send/receive calls/SMS/MMS on you N6p while your Pixel 2 XL functions like normal. Now both phones will ring and notify when you get a call or text message.
I am currently running this setup on my N6p with 8.1 Develop Preview 1 and Pixel 2 XL 8.0 Nov update.
EDIT: I just pulled the data only sim card out of my N6p and this worked over wifi. I assume this would work for any available data connection, but I've only been able to test with a Projec Fi data only sim, and wifi.

This is great. I have a question. I have my work number as a project fi (Currently using on a different phone). Can I activate it with my pixel 2 xl along side t-mobile, and receive calls from both without having to activate and de-activate?

@radionerd thanks for the shout out
While this is fringe on-topic at best, for any that use my little tinkering project (FiSwitch) feel free to hit me up with suggestions/issues/etc. - there are limited feedback channels for this so I'm always happy to see a new one spring up!
Also - a big thanks to @radionerd for suggesting the creation of those mobile network settings and esim manager shortcuts!

matteosaeed said:
This is great. I have a question. I have my work number as a project fi (Currently using on a different phone). Can I activate it with my pixel 2 xl along side t-mobile, and receive calls from both without having to activate and de-activate?
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I cant confirm this, because I dont have a sim card from a different carrier to test, but if you activate Project Fi on your Pixel 2 with eSIM, configure project fi to share your messages and calls with hangouts (see a couple posts up), then you should be able to switch back to Tmobile as you primary sim card.
This SHOULD allow you to send/receive Project Fi calls/text through Google Hangouts/Hangouts Dialer over Tmobile data connection, and send/receive, Tmobile calls/texts through standard messaging app and dialer app.
If you're willing, please give this a try and report back. I'd like to know if this works (the way i think it should) before signing up for another data plan.

matteosaeed said:
This is great. I have a question. I have my work number as a project fi (Currently using on a different phone). Can I activate it with my pixel 2 xl along side t-mobile, and receive calls from both without having to activate and de-activate?
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You know, this is a little off subject. But you could use Google voice for your work number and it's free. Currently I use Google voice for work and then my carrier number is my personal number.
I use an app called voice choice 2.0 that give me the option to choose which number to dial with. I can set up area codes, specific contacts, or a group to dial with each number. Works great.
I'm just looking at this app and project fi for coverage where TMobile doesn't roam on Sprint.
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whezzel said:
I cant confirm this, because I dont have a sim card from a different carrier to test, but if you activate Project Fi on your Pixel 2 with eSIM, configure project fi to share your messages and calls with hangouts (see a couple posts up), then you should be able to switch back to Tmobile as you primary sim card.
This SHOULD allow you to send/receive Project Fi calls/text through Google Hangouts/Hangouts Dialer over Tmobile data connection, and send/receive, Tmobile calls/texts through standard messaging app and dialer app.
If you're willing, please give this a try and report back. I'd like to know if this works (the way i think it should) before signing up for another data plan.
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Actually this is what I am doing right at the moment. I can do calls and texts over the "hangouts" app without using the hangouts dialer "unlike using the google voice". The only thing about it is, it is not as reliable when someone calls in because sometimes the app goes to sleep etc. I'll probably play with it and see.

Just wished I could take advantage of this, but I'm in the UK ;(

@matteosaeed My setup is I have Fi esim then a T Moblile sim. I have Fi calls and texts forwarded to the T Mobile number. The only time there is kinda an issue is with MMS I have to switch back to the esim for the message / attachment to download correctly. Other than that I just stay on the physical T Mobile sim and all calls and texts arrive like normal for both numbers. Switching between the sim and esim takes like 10 seconds, so the MMS thing is hardly an issue. Super convenient.
Edit: Also just as an FYI I've noticed if someone texts your Fi number while you're on the T Mobile sim and you respond to that forwarded message it'll show that you're texting from the Fi number. If you're on the T Mobile sim and send a new message then it'll show as sent from the T Mobile number.

matteosaeed said:
Actually this is what I am doing right at the moment. I can do calls and texts over the "hangouts" app without using the hangouts dialer "unlike using the google voice". The only thing about it is, it is not as reliable when someone calls in because sometimes the app goes to sleep etc. I'll probably play with it and see.
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You could try enabling unrestricted background data and disable battery optimization for Hangouts. This might use a little more battery but should keep the app awake in the background.

I'm the one with the Pixel 2XL and Nexus 6p, I have a Pixel XL but I gave that to my wife and I like the 2 front speakers.
When I disabled Project Fi on my New 2XL I went and got myself a Verizon Nano Sim Chip. Which means I can still use Hangouts on my phone send SMS and when I get calls in I have Call forwarding it works great. I really don't worry about incoming calls.
I like having Unlimited Data, and when I travel I like to have the best Data connection as possible.
So as of now how do I install Fi Switch App?
Do I Enable and reinstall/update Project Fi and then activate my ESIM Fi account.
install Fi Switch to go by about testing which is the Fastest Data Network Speeds play around with that option or do I order a data nano SIM like OP stated?

Would I be able to use for esim for talk and text and Verizon soon love nano SIM for data?
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biggiestuff said:
Would I be able to use for esim for talk and text and Verizon soon love nano SIM for data?
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No, the SIMs cannot be active at the same time, its one or the other.
Unless of course, you want to manually switch them

biggiestuff said:
Would I be able to use for esim for talk and text and Verizon soon love nano SIM for data?
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If you are getting a Verizon data SIM, I recommend the Verizon MiFi 7730L Jetpack. You could run it standalone as a hotspot. I run a MiFi 7730L 24/7 hooked via USB to a cheap Mikrotik router, use the routers Ethernet ports for wired devices and high power hotspot.
On my dual SIM setup I forward the fi number to Verizon, since Verizon is my primary service. I only switch off of Verizon when out of range, or sucky data.
I use Signal Messaging app for all text messaging, it doesn't care what phone number, or service is active it will receive and forward all SMS messages through any carrier, WiFi even with no SIM at all.
To switch SIM's you just go into the network Carrier settings and select which SIM you want to use, one at a time.
FiSwitch app soon will be adding a shortcut to the eSIM Manager, one click to change between SIM's.
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silesraf said:
I'm the one with the Pixel 2XL and Nexus 6p, I have a Pixel XL but I gave that to my wife and I like the 2 front speakers.
When I disabled Project Fi on my New 2XL I went and got myself a Verizon Nano Sim Chip. Which means I can still use Hangouts on my phone send SMS and when I get calls in I have Call forwarding it works great. I really don't worry about incoming calls.
I like having Unlimited Data, and when I travel I like to have the best Data connection as possible.
So as of now how do I install Fi Switch App?
Do I Enable and reinstall/update Project Fi and then activate my ESIM Fi account.
install Fi Switch to go by about testing which is the Fastest Data Network Speeds play around with that option or do I order a data nano SIM like OP stated?
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Yes,
You can activate your eSIM from the fi Project App, or fi web interface. It's real easy, just click though... select the Pixel 2 or 2XL and it will prompt for eSIM or physical SIM. I ported my free google voice number to fi in about 30 seconds.
I recommend the FiSwitch app, but it's not required. You can change Sim's from the Network Carrier settings screen. FiSwitch will soon have a shortcut to the eSIM Manager, then it will only be two touches of the screen to switch SIM's. :good:

whezzel said:
You would need a data only sim for the N6p. This can be ordered for free through the Project Fi app on your phone, under 'Manage Plan'. It shares the data plan with you main device (Pixel 2 XL) so no complicated bill. On your Pixel 2 XL, open the Google Hangouts app settings. Under 'Account' select the account associated with you Project Fi account. Look for 'Messages' under 'Project Fi calls and SMS', and toggle that On. This will let you send and receive SMS/MMS from any device that is logged into Hangouts with your account, even your PC, and you main device can be turned off.
When the data-only sim arrives, activate it and put it in your N6p. Install the Google Hangouts and Google Hangouts Dialer apps. Now you can send and receive SMS/MMS through Hangouts. To receive calls go to Hangouts settings, under 'Account' select the account associated with you Project Fi account. Look for "Incoming phone calls" and toggle that to on. If this is missing just back out of the Hangouts app, then open back to the same settings screen, it should be there now. Now you can receive calls on you N6p. To place calls, open the Hangouts Dialer. Now you can send/receive calls/SMS/MMS on you N6p while your Pixel 2 XL functions like normal. Now both phones will ring and notify when you get a call or text message.
I am currently running this setup on my N6p with 8.1 Develop Preview 1 and Pixel 2 XL 8.0 Nov update.
EDIT: I just pulled the data only sim card out of my N6p and this worked over wifi. I assume this would work for any available data connection, but I've only been able to test with a Project Fi data only sim, and wifi.
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I have 1/2 way activated my pixel 2xl but says if I go through my primary device will be Pixel 2XL, I downloaded the Fi Switch too, I just don't want to kill my Nexus 6P Nano SIM card, then what refresh to factory stock and re-activate the Nexus 6P if I don't like what I see.
Also I don't see where to order a Data Only SIM, in my PFi app, it says ( add person )15$ and invite them to your plan 10/GB share data.... Is that what you're talking about?

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Using an AT&T pre-paid SIM and Google Voice

I've got a AT&T flavor Nexus S that I purchased a pre-paid SIM for. I've got unlimited voice, text and paid extra for a data plan since it's a smartphone.
When I try to make an outgoing call using Google Voice it states, "Cannot complete your call, please try again." No matter how many times I try it will not work. If I dial with the number attached to the pre-paid SIM (which none of my contacts knows) it will work.
Any ideas?
User error, while receiving calls is not a problem, in order to make outgoing calls using Google Voice you need to set it up online to forward to the prepaid #.

Verizon - no data during phone calls?

On Verizon's network, all stock software. Sim was from Moto X that worked perfectly fine.
I'm unable to do anything that requires data while in a phone call. I have LTE coverage at the time of the phone call. Once a call is initiated, the "LTE" symbol goes away and just gives me a "!" symbol over the signal bars.
I'm assuming this isn't normal, as I was able to do everything on my phone during phone calls with older LTE phones.
Any insight?
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Not seeing that issue. Let me tell you what I have/did:
* Stock Verizon Nexus 6p (Sim from my old Note 4)
* Wifi turned off
* LTE Signal good before I start a call
* Make a call
* LTE Signal does not give me a "!" signal over the bars
* While talking on the call, run a speedtest
* Getting 26/6Mbps over Verizon LTE while in the call
Not sure what your situation is but wanted to let you know that is possible to do LTE data on Verizon during a call with this phone. Sorry I don't have a suggestion for you.
You need to activate Enhanced 4G LTE Mode pretty sure.
You need to have HD Voice activated on your account which is free. After that in the Settings/Cellular Networks turn on Enhanced 4g LTE Mode. This will enable VoLTE on the device without it you can not have data during a phone call. Most older LTE devices ie. 2014 and older had an extra radio for LTE which also had another CDMA radio so you could do voice and data at the same time with 3g or 4g. Since the late 2014 Droid Turbo (S6,M9, G4 are the same) the only way to voice and data at the same time is VoLTE.
nrage23 is correct. Be aware though, if you enable HD Voice and place a call while on 4G, the call will be dropped if you lose 4G signal. This may or may not be an issue depending on where you live.
I misread the replies. My test was with Advanced Calling Enabled and yes, that allows simultaneous voice/data.
Sounds like if the OP turns on advanced calling, all will be good?
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Found this on the Verizon page of all places:
2Most 4G LTE Android smartphones today already support simultaneous voice and LTE data without HD Voice. However, some newer HD Voice-capable devices such as the Droid Turbo by Motorola do not support simultaneous voice and LTE data unless HD Voice is activated.​
Activating HD voice in settings and in your my verizon account will fix the issue. I had the same issue on 3 different phones, and for all 3 of them this fixed it.
I noticed the same thing as the OP. I had Advanced Calling enabled and working with my 6P on 6.0, but now on 6.0.1 I lose data when making calls. I verified that enhanced calling is enable in the cellular networks settings and like I said, it's been enabled for a long while on my Verizon account.
I've had enhanced calling enabled since owning the 6p. If I understand correctly, there's something I need to do on my Verizon account also? Is this something I need to call in to activate, go in the store, or just go to my account online to activate?
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rice923 said:
I've had enhanced calling enabled since owning the 6p. If I understand correctly, there's something I need to do on my Verizon account also? Is this something I need to call in to activate, go in the store, or just go to my account online to activate?
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If you're on a regular personal plan it's easy to enable, you can do it here: http://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/advanced-calling/, in your account or over the phone with CS.
If you're on a business plan, you need to put your sim card into an officially recognized Verizon phone (since VZW doesn't technically support the 6P) that *has HD Voice/Advanced Calling*, turn on HD calling in your online account or over the phone, and then pop the sim card back into your 6P.
On an unrelated note, I guess I'm going to try reflashing my radio to fix my VOLTE 6.0.1 issue...
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If you're on a regular personal plan it's easy to enable, you can do it here: http://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/advanced-calling/, in your account or over the phone with CS.
If you're on a business plan, you need to put your sim card into an officially recognized Verizon phone (since it VZW doesn't technically support the 6P), turn on HD calling in your online account or over the phone, and then pop the sim card back into your 6P.
On an unrelated note, I guess I'm going to try reflashing my radio to fix my VOLTE 6.0.1 issue...
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Thanks. I actually found an article that showed where to enable it via my online account. Haven't tried it yet, but hope it works
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On an unrelated note, I guess I'm going to try reflashing my radio to fix my VOLTE 6.0.1 issue...
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I fixed the issue by disabling HD Voice/Advanced Calling in my Verizon account, waiting 10 minutes and then reenabling it (and waiting another few minutes).
Edit: and on the plus side, I realized the 6P and 5X while aren't official recognized by Verzion were much easier to add HD Calling to on my Verizon Business account. I didn't have to jump through the hoops of switching the sim card like I did on the N6.
I'm having the same issue on my phone after the update to 6.0.1. Will try Evan Van Van's advice of disabling and then reenabling
Thanks
Having the same problem with "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" missing and removing and readding the feature didn't work... Anyone find another solution to get VoLTE working? My device seems to think its VoLTE provisioned because I have the option to turn it off in *#*#4636#*#*, but clicking the button there doesn't do anything...
EvanVanVan said:
I fixed the issue by disabling HD Voice/Advanced Calling in my Verizon account, waiting 10 minutes and then reenabling it (and waiting another few minutes).
Edit: and on the plus side, I realized the 6P and 5X while aren't official recognized by Verzion were much easier to add HD Calling to on my Verizon Business account. I didn't have to jump through the hoops of switching the sim card like I did on the N6.
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This worked for me, thanks!
Does anyone know where VoLTE settings are stored on the /data partition? For laughs I tried a factory reset and it fixed the problem - the toggle showed up. But I'd like to avoid having to re-setup my entire phone just to get it working...
EvanVanVan said:
I fixed the issue by disabling HD Voice/Advanced Calling in my Verizon account, waiting 10 minutes and then reenabling it (and waiting another few minutes).
Edit: and on the plus side, I realized the 6P and 5X while aren't official recognized by Verzion were much easier to add HD Calling to on my Verizon Business account. I didn't have to jump through the hoops of switching the sim card like I did on the N6.
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I'm having the same issue. Enhanced 4G LTE Mode is enabled on my phone. HD Voice is enabled on my Verizon account, but no simultaneous voice/data. Disabling and re-enabling the HD Voice feature on my account didn't work for me.
Not sure if this is relevant, but my account is a personal account and the SIM was brand new activated in the Verizon store (previous phone was a Note 4).
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I'm having the same issue. Enhanced 4G LTE Mode is enabled on my phone. HD Voice is enabled on my Verizon account, but no simultaneous voice/data. Disabling and re-enabling the HD Voice feature on my account didn't work for me.
Not sure if this is relevant, but my account is a personal account and the SIM was brand new activated in the Verizon store (previous phone was a Note 4).
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I fixed the issue with a factory reset.
Did you ever get this sorted out? Seems like the march security update jacked my HD Calling up...I don't see the option to toggle it anymore
Does anyone know if the simultaneous voice and work everywhere or there are particular areas where the feature is available?

Wifi calling on sprint vs fi

We all know that Wifi calling works on Fi for Tmobile & Sprint. The Question I have is Why doesn't wifi calling work if you're sprint only?
It really doesn't make sense. Does the fi sim have some magical sprint profile. Discuss
I believe WiFi calling on Fi is just like using Hangouts, since your number is actually a Google Voice number. If you have Google Voice, you can use Hangouts to make WiFi calls on Sprint or T-Mobile as well.
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I believe WiFi calling on Fi is just like using Hangouts, since your number is actually a Google Voice number. If you have Google Voice, you can use Hangouts to make WiFi calls on Sprint or T-Mobile as well.
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Its not. When I look at my fi phone, I don't use the hangouts dialer. Im using the integrated standard dialer. So that's what im trying to figure out, there is something fishy going on here.
T-Mobile WiFi calling us superior to Sprints
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The wifi calling on my lgg3 works perfectly fine, the wifi calling on my tmobile work phone works fine. The wifi calling on sprint and tmobile on my project fi phone works great. I know the sim has to contain some profile that enables it for sprint, assuming some kind of VPN tunnel information. On my 6P with my fi sim in wifi calling option is there, sprint sim, option gone.
That's the only thing I can think of. I know when I got into a discussion with fi tech support over why 911 wasn't working properly. You're fi number is carried on tmobile, and sprint gives you a dark number. So its entirely possible that that there is some VPN going on.
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Its not. When I look at my fi phone, I don't use the hangouts dialer. Im using the integrated standard dialer. So that's what im trying to figure out, there is something fishy going on here.
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I'm aware, but it's my understanding that the Google dialer has Hangout integration, which is why you are required to have Hangouts installed in order to make WiFi calls when using Fi.
I'm going to Uninstaller hang outs and see if it works with out it. I don't use hangouts for anything on fi except talking to my friends. I personally think the fi app is making the magic happen since it handles all the switching pieces.
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Uninstalled hangouts. Wificalling still work. Disabled the fi app, breaks fi calling for sprint. Intresting!
I just had a long conversation with a Sprint tech that even went as far as saying maybe a third party app may help....but ....basically, WiFi calling is disabled for 6P (I use Sprint, not fi). It is really disappointing.
You pay for the phone...it should be open to be used as intended. Sprint is preventing us from using our "Unlocked Phones" & "Pure Android" phones and messing with the capabilities. Would that be grounds for a class action lawsuit? Who can we call to get that started?

Verizon compatibility broken after update?

Hey guys, I just saw a YouTube video that was posted yesterday where the guy shows that after the update he no longer could connect with his Verizon SIM card in the axon 7. Has anybody else run into this? Mine won't be here until Monday but if this is true I'm going to be sorely disappointed. Thanks for your input.
I am on verizon with no additional problems after the update. I am still always roaming, and my signal is the same (more bars but still the same reception). LTE, MMS, SMS, Cdma all work the same.
I'm really glad to hear that. I'm not so sure the guy knew what he was doing either... Lol :silly:
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I am on verizon with no additional problems after the update. I am still always roaming, and my signal is the same (more bars but still the same reception). LTE, MMS, SMS, Cdma all work the same.
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Quick question for you bud. I currently have the Moto Z-Force, but I want an unlocked phone that I can root and mess around with and unfortunately this phone doesn't have that capability. Would you say this is a great alternative in terms of functionality and specs? Tia
CaptainElwood said:
I am on verizon with no additional problems after the update. I am still always roaming, and my signal is the same (more bars but still the same reception). LTE, MMS, SMS, Cdma all work the same.
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I second this. No issues on Verizon unlimited plan after update. Always showing roaming also. Mms, sms, calls work as suppose to. All out of the box settings.
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I second this. No issues on Verizon unlimited plan after update. Always showing roaming also. Mms, sms, calls work as suppose to. All out of the box settings.
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I can third it lol no issues here. Mine actually has better signal after update on verizon and sms/mms everything works still no issues anywhere
My VZW situation. Just an FYI post AND how to fix it.
I'm on Verizon, have had my Axon 7 for over a month now. No issues other than not having VoLTE, and the occasional software farts (Using Nova Launcher now). When I initially set-up my phone, I imported all previous apps directly from the Play Store. I should have known not to install the VZW apps that were previously installed on my HTC One M8 (purchased directly from VZW), but in my excitement for the new phone, it skipped my mind. Anyhow, no issues through 9/19. "Verizon" displayed as my carrier, and full access to the LTE network.
Fast forward to 9/20 (post B27 update) when one of the VZW updated automatically (I don't recall which of the 2 apps I had installed), and BAMM, "123456" displayed as my carrier and no more access to the LTE network (3G only). Later that evening, my VZW account showed my number with an "unauthorized, non-VZW device", whereas, before the VZW app update it showed my HTC one M8. I removed the SIM and shut down the phone, re-installed the SIM and re-booted....nada. Tried what seemed to be every permutation of replacing the SIM card, played around with APN settings...no dice.
My feeling is they booted me off 4G LTE once the app recognized I was using an unauthorized, non-VZW device. The steps below solved the issue (Provided by "vzwcdma" via the ZTE Community Forum).
"As for losing LTE connectivity, I've had a similar problem before, both on the A7 and other devices. On other devices, like Motorola devices, I could just boot into the bootloader and clear the modem state partitions via fastboot, but ZTE seems to have disabled that function in the A7's bootloader. So, for the A7, I had to mess around a bit with the modem mode. Download "Network" or "4G LTE Switch" from the Play Store. Open it and scroll down to "Set preferred network type", where it should say "LTE/GSM/CDMA auto (PRL)". There isn't really a set guide for what you have to do, but try switching into LTE-only mode, try hitting "Turn off radio" and "Turn on radio" (not Airplane Mode), maybe try "LTE/CDMA audo (PRL)", maybe turn off radio, switch to LTE-only mode, turn on radio, etc. At some point (I'm not sure what) the phone will reset its modem state, and should re-connect to Verizon LTE (and when it does, switch the network type back to LTE/GSM/CDMA auto PRL.
My Verizon account also shows "unauthorized, non-VZW device". Shouldn't affect anything. I've been using an unauthorized/non-VZW device prior to the A7 with no issues as well."
roseykr said:
My VZW situation. Just an FYI post AND how to fix it.
I'm on Verizon, have had my Axon 7 for over a month now. No issues other than not having VoLTE, and the occasional software farts (Using Nova Launcher now). When I initially set-up my phone, I imported all previous apps directly from the Play Store. I should have known not to install the VZW apps that were previously installed on my HTC One M8 (purchased directly from VZW), but in my excitement for the new phone, it skipped my mind. Anyhow, no issues through 9/19. "Verizon" displayed as my carrier, and full access to the LTE network.
Fast forward to 9/20 (post B27 update) when one of the VZW updated automatically (I don't recall which of the 2 apps I had installed), and BAMM, "123456" displayed as my carrier and no more access to the LTE network (3G only). Later that evening, my VZW account showed my number with an "unauthorized, non-VZW device", whereas, before the VZW app update it showed my HTC one M8. I removed the SIM and shut down the phone, re-installed the SIM and re-booted....nada. Tried what seemed to be every permutation of replacing the SIM card, played around with APN settings...no dice.
My feeling is they booted me off 4G LTE once the app recognized I was using an unauthorized, non-VZW device. The steps below solved the issue (Provided by "vzwcdma" via the ZTE Community Forum).
"As for losing LTE connectivity, I've had a similar problem before, both on the A7 and other devices. On other devices, like Motorola devices, I could just boot into the bootloader and clear the modem state partitions via fastboot, but ZTE seems to have disabled that function in the A7's bootloader. So, for the A7, I had to mess around a bit with the modem mode. Download "Network" or "4G LTE Switch" from the Play Store. Open it and scroll down to "Set preferred network type", where it should say "LTE/GSM/CDMA auto (PRL)". There isn't really a set guide for what you have to do, but try switching into LTE-only mode, try hitting "Turn off radio" and "Turn on radio" (not Airplane Mode), maybe try "LTE/CDMA audo (PRL)", maybe turn off radio, switch to LTE-only mode, turn on radio, etc. At some point (I'm not sure what) the phone will reset its modem state, and should re-connect to Verizon LTE (and when it does, switch the network type back to LTE/GSM/CDMA auto PRL.
My Verizon account also shows "unauthorized, non-VZW device". Shouldn't affect anything. I've been using an unauthorized/non-VZW device prior to the A7 with no issues as well."
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Good to know! I've had so many phones and this hardware looks so awesome for the price, but of course vzw isn't gonna play nice with it without some work. Looking forward to getting mine
Verizon still working fine for me.
After the b27 update I saw improved signal strength. I'm on page plus mvno. After driving in a fringe reception area, I lost lte,and I showed as roaming. It seemed to be using boost Mobile from what the phones network menus displayed. Axon doesn't have a mobile network setting for 'system b', only auto & home only. Tried both, rebooting each time, no fix. I ended up resetting phone, fixed it all. I then switched mobile network to home only, and hoping that it's done.
PS-after b27 I had to re-enable a couple settings, pinch for screen shot, etc.
Edit: it's now been several weeks with it set to home network only. I daily drive in fringe reception areas and have better signal strength than ever, with any phone/carrier combo. All is great, no more issues. Great phone!
For reference, I'm on page plus mvno, dropped in my activated sim from my old phone into the right-side sim slot for CDMA services. Then set to home only. Done.
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Just wanted to see if anyone else had inputs of post update Verizon service, good and bad... hasn't been a ton of chatter in the last week. I have a phone on its way from the egg, trying to decide if it's worth starting a new sim card with Verizon and dealing with that work around... is getting the number off a display and ordering online still the easiest way to get activated?
Works great on VZW still. Love the phone.
methcat said:
Just wanted to see if anyone else had inputs of post update Verizon service, good and bad... hasn't been a ton of chatter in the last week. I have a phone on its way from the egg, trying to decide if it's worth starting a new sim card with Verizon and dealing with that work around... is getting the number off a display and ordering online still the easiest way to get activated?
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I'd say that the Axon works just as well on Verizon as it did prior to the update, but with potentially better signal strength though I didn't really have a big issue with that prior to the update so I'm not sure (the T-Mobile SIM does seem to do a lot better post-update...but Verizon has always worked well).
I really doubt you'll have any substantive trouble with VZW on this device, especially if you're willing and able to mess a bit with some of the more advanced settings just in case a problem does arise. Here are the oddities, and I'm trying to list *all* of them!
1. No VoLTE or (I presume) HD calling
2. Voicemail appears to have to be accessed by dialing *86 as opposed to long-pressing the '1' key
3. Roaming icon is present intermittently
4. Data roaming *must* be enabled to ensure consistent and reliable data service
5. Verizon's website won't recognize the device at all in the Account Overview pages (mine still shows the last "approved" device I had with my VZW SIM - an iPhone 6S)
6. MMS *may* require a hack to get the proper APN, though I've had no trouble with this (I'm prepaid though); the hack requires a GSM SIM, so beware of this
7. 1X reception *seems* a tad weak in terms of dBm but functionally it almost seems better than my other Verizon phones (weird!)
8. Carrier label will be either '123456,' '002127' (EvDO only), or (I think?) '31000' when not using LTE (i.e., 1X or 3G). When on LTE the phone should show "Verizon Wireless" as normal
9. A SIM/modem reset may be necessary once in a great while it seems...so it's good to understand how to navigate to the "Phone Information" screen to toggle radio settings...also, I've found just SIM-cycling with a GSM SIM will often fix any connectivity problems as well...and sometimes just rebooting the phone with no SIM at all can help too (or a combo of all the above!)
If you can tolerate the above issues then the phone is great. I really enjoy it. I've found the Verizon side of things to be pretty reliable on the Axon 7, even with my endless tinkering with radio modes and other stuff, which has seemed to get me into (recoverable) trouble a few times.
Most importantly - the endless chatter on various forums that Verizon "blocks" the Axon 7 and other non-approved devices is total bunk. In every case where I've run into an issue it can be resolved on my side - Verizon is doing nothing whatsoever to inhibit the use of the Axon 7 on its network as far as I can tell (notwithstanding activation hurdles, admittedly)...many of the people making such claims seem to be speaking from a standpoint of total ignorance and it's kind of getting annoying, to be honest...it seems like the minute someone has an issue with the Axon 7, some ignoramus gets on the relevant forums/comments and claims that Verizon is "blocking" the device. Total BS IMO.
Good luck! As far as activation is concerned...I'd say it might be best to just go to Wal-Mart and buy a cheap prepaid phone or something (looks like the HTC Desire 526 has a nano-SIM and is only $37.49 on their website)...or maybe a cheap nano-SIM'd Verizon phone off of Swappa or eBay? That's probably what I'd do...But I know neither of those solutions are particularly helpful...VZW definitely makes it a bit of a pain.
flyer_andy said:
I'd say that the Axon works just as well on Verizon as it did prior to the update, but with potentially better signal strength though I didn't really have a big issue with that prior to the update so I'm not sure (the T-Mobile SIM does seem to do a lot better post-update...but Verizon has always worked well).
I really doubt you'll have any substantive trouble with VZW on this device, especially if you're willing and able to mess a bit with some of the more advanced settings just in case a problem does arise. Here are the oddities, and I'm trying to list *all* of them!
1. No VoLTE or (I presume) HD calling
2. Voicemail appears to have to be accessed by dialing *86 as opposed to long-pressing the '1' key
3. Roaming icon is present intermittently
4. Data roaming *must* be enabled to ensure consistent and reliable data service
5. Verizon's website won't recognize the device at all in the Account Overview pages (mine still shows the last "approved" device I had with my VZW SIM - an iPhone 6S)
6. MMS *may* require a hack to get the proper APN, though I've had no trouble with this (I'm prepaid though); the hack requires a GSM SIM, so beware of this
7. 1X reception *seems* a tad weak in terms of dBm but functionally it almost seems better than my other Verizon phones (weird!)
8. Carrier label will be either '123456,' '002127' (EvDO only), or (I think?) '31000' when not using LTE (i.e., 1X or 3G). When on LTE the phone should show "Verizon Wireless" as normal
9. A SIM/modem reset may be necessary once in a great while it seems...so it's good to understand how to navigate to the "Phone Information" screen to toggle radio settings...also, I've found just SIM-cycling with a GSM SIM will often fix any connectivity problems as well...and sometimes just rebooting the phone with no SIM at all can help too (or a combo of all the above!)
If you can tolerate the above issues then the phone is great. I really enjoy it. I've found the Verizon side of things to be pretty reliable on the Axon 7, even with my endless tinkering with radio modes and other stuff, which has seemed to get me into (recoverable) trouble a few times.
Most importantly - the endless chatter on various forums that Verizon "blocks" the Axon 7 and other non-approved devices is total bunk. In every case where I've run into an issue it can be resolved on my side - Verizon is doing nothing whatsoever to inhibit the use of the Axon 7 on its network as far as I can tell (notwithstanding activation hurdles, admittedly)...many of the people making such claims seem to be speaking from a standpoint of total ignorance and it's kind of getting annoying, to be honest...it seems like the minute someone has an issue with the Axon 7, some ignoramus gets on the relevant forums/comments and claims that Verizon is "blocking" the device. Total BS IMO.
Good luck! As far as activation is concerned...I'd say it might be best to just go to Wal-Mart and buy a cheap prepaid phone or something (looks like the HTC Desire 526 has a nano-SIM and is only $37.49 on their website)...or maybe a cheap nano-SIM'd Verizon phone off of Swappa or eBay? That's probably what I'd do...But I know neither of those solutions are particularly helpful...VZW definitely makes it a bit of a pain.
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#6 might not need the GSM SIM workaround anymore after the B27 update. The + sign shows up for me all the time now, even if I only have a Verizon SIM inserted.
thanks for the list guys, i think i'll give it a shot. i'm going to try to add it as a second line to my wifes plan online. is borrowing a friends imei from a nano phone still the best way to get a new activated sim for this phone?
that 526 is a predaid, will verizon just switch that sim to plan if i call in? or are they different?
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methcat said:
that 526 is a predaid, will verizon just switch that sim to plan if i call in? or are they different?
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found this, not sure if this is still the rule...
http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2016/02/new-policy-may-require-verizon-prepaid.html
"It turns out that Verizon made a policy change effective 1/17/16 that requires Verizon Prepaid Phones to be activated on Verizon Prepaid and have at least $30 in airtime applied to them before they cam be used on Verizon postpaid. A Reddit user posted a copy of an internal Verizon document detailing the new rule:
Effective 1/17/2016, customers who purchase a Prepaid 4G device must activate on a $30, $45, or $60 Prepaid plan and make at least 1 monthly service payment before they are eligible to move the device to a new or active Postpay account .
Device remains locked until first month’s payment is made on their Prepaid plan.
Device is unlocked automatically upon successful first month’s payment and can be used on Postpaid plan (new SIM or SIM swap).
Attempting to use an active Postpay SIM Card with a new 4G LTE Prepaid PIB smartphone prior to making the required monthly payment, hotlines the Postpay MDN (SFO 83643) . The hotline remains until first month’s payment is made.
Customers who activate on the $45 or $60 Prepaid plans and enroll in Auto Pay, receive bonus 1GB data per month.
If account is hotlined:
Data access, outgoing calls, and text messaging do not work.
Text message is sent to smartphone.
*VZW FREE MSG: Phone must be activated on Verizon Wireless Prepaid service and first monthly payment must be made before it can be used with any other service. *
Auto-remark is placed on the customer's account.
*SIM Swap attempted: MDN Hotlined. Phone must be activated on VZW Prepaid service and first month paid before it can be activated as postpaid. *"
methcat said:
thanks for the list guys, i think i'll give it a shot. i'm going to try to add it as a second line to my wifes plan online. is borrowing a friends imei from a nano phone still the best way to get a new activated sim for this phone?
that 526 is a predaid, will verizon just switch that sim to plan if i call in? or are they different?
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found this, not sure if this is still the rule...
http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2016/02/new-policy-may-require-verizon-prepaid.html
"It turns out that Verizon made a policy change effective 1/17/16 that requires Verizon Prepaid Phones to be activated on Verizon Prepaid and have at least $30 in airtime applied to them before they cam be used on Verizon postpaid. A Reddit user posted a copy of an internal Verizon document detailing the new rule:
Effective 1/17/2016, customers who purchase a Prepaid 4G device must activate on a $30, $45, or $60 Prepaid plan and make at least 1 monthly service payment before they are eligible to move the device to a new or active Postpay account .
Device remains locked until first month’s payment is made on their Prepaid plan.
Device is unlocked automatically upon successful first month’s payment and can be used on Postpaid plan (new SIM or SIM swap).
Attempting to use an active Postpay SIM Card with a new 4G LTE Prepaid PIB smartphone prior to making the required monthly payment, hotlines the Postpay MDN (SFO 83643) . The hotline remains until first month’s payment is made.
Customers who activate on the $45 or $60 Prepaid plans and enroll in Auto Pay, receive bonus 1GB data per month.
If account is hotlined:
Data access, outgoing calls, and text messaging do not work.
Text message is sent to smartphone.
*VZW FREE MSG: Phone must be activated on Verizon Wireless Prepaid service and first monthly payment must be made before it can be used with any other service. *
Auto-remark is placed on the customer's account.
*SIM Swap attempted: MDN Hotlined. Phone must be activated on VZW Prepaid service and first month paid before it can be activated as postpaid. *"
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Dang...yeah I think you're right about this. My mistake...ugh I wish they'd just make it easy! In that case I'd say Swappa would be the best route...I've bought a few phones off of there and it's always been a great experience.
What are your APN settings? I'm having issues getting my data to work on Verizon.
Salmonella lolz said:
What are your APN settings? I'm having issues getting my data to work on Verizon.
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Mine: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68263623&postcount=61
So frustrating. Before update used today Verizon in upper left corner. Switched to 123456 after update. Rebooted and it went back. After another reboot it only says 123456 and nothing I do will change it back. And now when I get an MMS hangouts tells me it needs to download it but nothing happens. I never get LTE anymore either.
Edit: not sure what I did but it's back now. Might have something to do with bearer in apn settings being lte.
KyJelly69 said:
So frustrating. Before update used today Verizon in upper left corner. Switched to 123456 after update. Rebooted and it went back. After another reboot it only says 123456 and nothing I do will change it back. And now when I get an MMS hangouts tells me it needs to download it but nothing happens. I never get LTE anymore either.
Edit: not sure what I did but it's back now. Might have something to do with bearer in apn settings being lte.
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That's #9 in the above list that was posted. Need to cycle the modem state of the device.
so, can someone help me with a little clarification? did ZTE ever actually disable anything regarding Verizon on this phone? i know when people quote the webinar, it sounded like they were going to. i understand that the functionality is basically all still working, but i'm wondering if maybe i'm confused on the terminology.
in this post on reddit, i heard the same thing that has been repeated by some, and i am wondering if i have my band terminology confused. is the cdma part different from the 4g lte part(and that's why it's still working)?, or is sarah just incorrect?
SarahSchmera 3 points 9 hours ago
Axon 7
Doesn't work on Verizon yet. It supposedly has CDMA radios but the radio firmware has them disabled. ZTE can't by law enable the CDMA radios because they didn't get FCC approval for the CDMA radios. They would have to pay for the testing and then resubmit the device to the FCC to get approval before they turned on the CDMA radios through a software update.
And the device doesn't have the firmware for VoLTE, HD calling or WiFi calling on Verizon.
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Question on whether this works with Project FI

I got a buddy who's offering his 32gb Mate 8 with a 256gb sd card to trade for my 64gb Nexus 6P.
I am considering it but my real question is does anyone on here know if this will work with Project FI?
I've done some extensive searches on Google, some sites say yes with only T-Mobile working which isn't a problem for me because its the only available network in my area, Sprint sucks.
So what do you guys think, has anyone on here tried it with Project FI?
If I'm not mistaken on the AL10 model the CDMA bands are locked. So that would mean your device will only work on the GSM network. Sprint LTE towers *should* still work though. Best way is to test it out and report it to us, since you seem to have it available locally.
So I did the trade and Project Fi works, 4g LTE, super fast and no issues. Only thing that doesn't work is MMS.
So I figured it out for those who have a Nexus device laying around and want to try a Mate 8 or any other Android device on Project Fi.
I got phone, SMS and MMS working and all you need to do is order the data sim only card but you need to already have a Project Fi account to get this to work. Once you get it activate it online, insert the sim to the Mate 8, download Hangouts, go into hangouts settings make sure you sync your google account to receive calls and sms through Projrct FI and your are good to go. I'm currently using this set up with my Huawei Mate 8 and I have my Nexus 6 as my back up.
Just to understand: you have one project fi sim card in your Mate 8, which is a data-only sim, and all voice calls are over data via hangouts rather than typical cell tower voice service?

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