Hello, I would like to share my experience with my first Android Head Unit (an Intel Sofia Joying JY-VM130N2), installed in my 2009 Volkswagen Passat (B6) in case it works for any one ealse.
I never installed anything like this or related to car audio, but I am familiar with computers an tablets and that sort of things.
This is the before:
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The front panel gets out with your bare hands (but maybe in your case you have to use some kind of prying tool)
As an advice I read many places, don't disconnect the AIRBAG cable in the frame. I just left it hanging.
The radio gets out unscrewing 4 torx screws. You can see there is behind a blue box, and that was a Parrot hand-free that was broken and I had to also remove.
I just disconnected it, connected the Joying unit and voilà (didn't even take pictures of the unplugging/plugging process):
I just installed it with the canbus and disconnecting this cables (which I think other people connects and after they report problems with the unit...):
I had some weird problems with the bluetooth, but it seems to be working perfect now. I can send/receive calls using the Head Unit, and also I have it conected to a cheapo ELM327 bluetooth dongle bought in amazon, and working great with Torque.
Good things about this Joying product:
Cheap, it gave me the opportunity to have a GPS navi system, bluetooth hands free, and other insteresting features a very reasonable price
Installation was really plug&play, as advertised. It took me less than one hour to make the swap (I didn't install any rear cam, or microphone yet, but the unit works decently with the built in microphone).
Cons:
I suspect this unit will not last as an OEM unit, but didn't cost the same neither, I asume that
Not top notch quality here. Some buttons get deleted, the LED color for the buttons is incomplete, and the white LED color is... pinkish. Cheapo, but it works right now...
I had to solve over-heating problems. I installed a heat sink, and a fan, and a modded cover to allow evacuate the heat from the unit.
In any case I would rate this as a 6/10, basically substracting points for some issues as quality endings, terrible English manuals (at least Joying has a very nice collaborative community that makes Joying worth double it deserves). The English manual is simply sad. I had to search in XDA and their carjoying forums/blogs to find out answers I needed to proceed to the installation of the unit.
I demanded a new button that came like scratched or something, or wrongly painted; I hope to see how their after-sales respond.
If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. I have some questions I would search the answer and come back here...
Does any body know if I hve my Head Unit paired with my telephone, can the HU use my phone's data plan to navigate or do online stuff?
Can I start SYGIC in the background everytime the Head Units turns on? I live in a place with many speed radars and the main reason I want this unit is to advice me of speed radars in case I get distracted... Now I have to manually start Sygic every time...
How can I improve the radio reception? AM doesn't work at all...
EDIT: I forgot to mention I found it extremely easy to install (AND REMOVE) this units... I think, I could steal this unit in 2 minutes. 3 minutes if I remove the cables carefully and also steal the GPS antenna... Have to do something about it...
EDIT 2: By the way, if you're interested in buying one Joying they have a promotion code 'joyingESP' with a 10% in the Intel unit. I don't know until when that code will work. If you need it, just try to use it and good luck.
ptolomeo said:
[*]Does any body know if I hve my Head Unit paired with my telephone, can the HU use my phone's data plan to navigate or do online stuff?
[*]Can I start SYGIC in the background everytime the Head Units turns on? I live in a place with many speed radars and the main reason I want this unit is to advice me of speed radars in case I get distracted... Now I have to manually start Sygic every time...
[*]How can I improve the radio reception? AM doesn't work at all...
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1. You need to root and install an Bluetooth tethering app (read on my Q&A or you can install it via @surfer63 app after you root the unit) so every time the phone connects to the unit you have data also from the phone.
If you don't want to root then you can make the phone a wi-fi hotspot for your unit but you need to start the hotspot manually each time you enter the car or do it automatically via additional software from Google store... if you have an Apple I don't know if you can automate this
2. If you use the NoKill Sofia server custom keys mod and you edit the script properly you can start it every time... or there are apps in the Google store that can auto start apps.
3. I have no clue... I rarely use the FM radio... the AM radio I have never used it the last 20 years or so I mainly stream online radios when I want to listen to the radio... the quality is the best, way better than what an FM radio can offer
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1. You need to root and install an Bluetooth tethering app (read on my Q&A or you can install it via @surfer63 app after you root the unit) so every time the phone connects to the unit you have data also from the phone.
If you don't want to root then you can make the phone a wi-fi hotspot for your unit but you need to start the hotspot manually each time you enter the car or do it automatically via additional software from Google store... if you have an Apple I don't know if you can automate this
2. If you use the NoKill Sofia server custom keys mod and you edit the script properly you can start it every time... or there are apps in the Google store that can auto start apps.
3. I have no clue... I rarely use the FM radio... the AM radio I have never used it the last 20 years or so I mainly stream online radios when I want to listen to the radio... the quality is the best, way better than what an FM radio can offer
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I couldn't bluetooth tether, but I think it's due to my old smartphone (android 4.4). It has the option, though, but it seems to not be working properly.
I used tasker to detect when I stablish a bluetooth connection to the Joying head unit, and then I activate WIFI tethering (which the HU detects and connects to).
Thank you for your help though.
duplicated post (sorry)
ptolomeo said:
I couldn't bluetooth tether, but I think it's due to my old smartphone (android 4.4). It has the option, though, but it seems to not be working properly.
I used tasker to detect when I stablish a bluetooth connection to the Joying head unit, and then I activate WIFI tethering (which the HU detects and connects to).
Thank you for your help though.
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Install Bluetooth BluetoothTethering.apk from the link below on the headunit and phone and follow the settings from the post fort he headunit and phone.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...elopment/bluetooth-settings-launcher-t3504526
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Install Bluetooth BluetoothTethering.apk from the link below on the headunit and phone and follow the settings from the post fort he headunit and phone.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...elopment/bluetooth-settings-launcher-t3504526
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I tried but couldn`t (got error) because my smartphone is android 4.4 and lbdroid compiled against minimum android 5.1.
I tried to activate bluetooth tethering manually but even though it aparently was ok, the head unit failed to connect to Internet.
Thank you for the advise though.
ptolomeo said:
I tried but couldn`t (got error) because my smartphone is android 4.4 and lbdroid compiled against minimum android 5.1.
I tried to activate bluetooth tethering manually but even though it aparently was ok, the head unit failed to connect to Internet.
Thank you for the advise though.
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on the phone try this app maybe it works with your android version
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nu.mine.qos.btautotethering
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Hi.
I bought a headunit via ebay.
At device settings under wireless & networks section only wifi option is exists, bluetooth is misssing.
It must be bluetooth capable, because it works with android phone. Only one bluetooth icon is on the device homescreen which operates only with phone calls, contacts.
We have a bluetooth ODB item, but we cant connect it to the cars headunit, because there is no separate bluetooth menu under the device settings menu, where can i search or find BT devices, and therfore i can not pairing this ODB device to the headunit.
How to solve that problem? Is there eny idea or advice?
Sorry for my english...
Model number: CAR_G20
Android version: 5.0
Kernel version: 3.4.67
Build Number: ALPS.LD_kk1MP10.V2.2
MCU: XY-M4-AndroidBT-4730EU-180408
I have the same problem. Did you found the solution?
Many head unit suppliers do this. They compile a crippled settings apk without bluetooth settings.
There is not much to be done about that.
I have this on my unit, I bought it from Seicane (haven't found out who the manufacturer is yet).
The bluetooth isn't available to android, as it is a host device (can be speaker and hands free kit, not normal profiles for android).
Unfortunately even plugging in a USB bluetooth dongle doesn't help as they have crippled the settings
android settings, in the upper right corner of the magnifying glass icon, press. manually enter bluetooth, you will find bluetooth settings. in the bluetooth program, from the pairing of the phone, change the name and pin to 1234. ready
Android bluetooth
android settings, in the upper right corner of the magnifying glass icon, press. manually enter bluetooth, you will find bluetooth settings. in the bluetooth program, from the pairing of the phone, change the name and pin to 1234. ready
MarsinS said:
android settings, in the upper right corner of the magnifying glass icon, press. manually enter bluetooth, you will find bluetooth settings. in the bluetooth program, from the pairing of the phone, change the name and pin to 1234. ready
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No, you won't. You are talking about the Settings apps on phones. Most head units Settings program don't even look like the phone settings app as they have Settings apps which combine Android settings with car settings. . Most head units Settings apps don't even have a magnifying glass icon to tap on.
What's more: The Settings apps in Joyings are compiled without bluetooth settings, and this is the case on many head units. You can easily see this if you decompile the apps as they are pure java. Most users do not even realize, but most head unit Settings app lack a lot more functionality than the (mostly) standard AOSP Settings apps on phones.
Joying apps have a special bluetooth app that contains part of the bluetooth settings to do the pairing whith a number of selected devices.
Most head units have crippled drivers with compiled in white lists and black lists that only allow paring the phones and bluetooth devices they sell.
Please let us know which head unit you have and please share a photo of your head units settings screen, with all those users who don't have that. Instead of advising people incorrectly.
For example you could look at this video to see how many head unit settings apps look like. You see the bluetooth app allowing "some" paring. Then you will see the difference.
Still no luck huh?
I just got a head unit that also has no Bluetooth settings and no apparent way to pair with devices. The difference is that mine came with an app called just "OBD" (blue icon) and it is there only to help you pair the OBDII dongle. You just open the app, scan, pair and open Torque.
I didn't find the app in the store, but I'm sure if you reach out to your seller, they will be able to help.
Any update sir. i also have this problem. i want to connect hondata using bluetooth. but my bluetooth only have function phone call, contact.
Bluetooth not same with android phone.
kindly please update if you found solution.
Ummm no he is 100% correct. Worked for me like a charm. Mabey you should pay somebody to do it
Junsun V1 - start equalizer/AUX/BT music/CarInfo... from launcher
The app equalizer.apk starts the equalizer (activity com.ts.main.Media.ADASMainActivity): EqualizerShell.apk starts the equalizer (activity com.ts.MainUI/com.ts.set.dsp.SetDspMainActivity) via su shell command. See post below for further...
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Hi!
For some reason I cannot reply to the thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/junsun-v1-start-equalizer-aux-bt-music-from-launcher.4237797/ ( it keeps asking me to log in/ register and then sends me back to the homepage).
I just recently bought and installed a Junsun V1 Pro (got the base model - 1GB + 16GB).
I downloaded the bluetooth settings apk and installed it with the apkinstaller that was already available on the head unit.
For some reason the bluetooth settings apk keeps crashing when I try to open it?
I've never fiddled with things like these before so most likely I'm doing something wrong.
My only goal here is to be able to share internet connection to the head unit via bluetooth, since BT is always active on my Galaxy S10e and I can't be bothered to activate wifi hotspot everytime I get in my car.
Any ideas?
Thanks a million!
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Hi!
For some reason I cannot reply to the thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/junsun-v1-start-equalizer-aux-bt-music-from-launcher.4237797/ ( it keeps asking me to log in/ register and then sends me back to the homepage).
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BridgeMountain said:
Hi!
For some reason I cannot reply to the thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/junsun-v1-start-equalizer-aux-bt-music-from-launcher.4237797/ ( it keeps asking me to log in/ register and then sends me back to the homepage).
I just recently bought and installed a Junsun V1 Pro (got the base model - 1GB + 16GB).
I downloaded the bluetooth settings apk and installed it with the apkinstaller that was already available on the head unit.
For some reason the bluetooth settings apk keeps crashing when I try to open it?
I've never fiddled with things like these before so most likely I'm doing something wrong.
My only goal here is to be able to share internet connection to the head unit via bluetooth, since BT is always active on my Galaxy S10e and I can't be bothered to activate wifi hotspot everytime I get in my car.
Any ideas?
Thanks a million!
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Install the app QuickShortcutMaker and try to find the activity to find and start Bluetooth devices list.
I thinks it's not 'BluetoothSettingsActivity' - but I don't know why...
BridgeMountain said:
Hi!
For some reason I cannot reply to the thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/junsun-v1-start-equalizer-aux-bt-music-from-launcher.4237797/ ( it keeps asking me to log in/ register and then sends me back to the homepage).
I just recently bought and installed a Junsun V1 Pro (got the base model - 1GB + 16GB).
I downloaded the bluetooth settings apk and installed it with the apkinstaller that was already available on the head unit.
For some reason the bluetooth settings apk keeps crashing when I try to open it?
I've never fiddled with things like these before so most likely I'm doing something wrong.
My only goal here is to be able to share internet connection to the head unit via bluetooth, since BT is always active on my Galaxy S10e and I can't be bothered to activate wifi hotspot everytime I get in my car.
Any ideas?
Thanks a million!
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Hello friend, I think that for your phone to share the Internet every time you get in your car you would have to use macrodroid.
I have it on my phone and I have it configured like this:
As soon as the phone detects the Bluetooth connection with my radio, it automatically activates the shared connection.
And when turning off the radio and disconnecting the phone from Bluetooth. It is programmed to automatically disable Internet Sharing.
I hope it helps. All the best!
Can you help me connect Bluetooth obd2 adapter with Nakamichi android car stereo. The Bluetooth settings in the unit does not have the option to change the password which is 0000.All my obd adapters use 1234.Please help.
Also the joying unit in my other car connects with adapters that only have obd2 as their internal name..
dilipkuma7278 said:
Can you help me connect Bluetooth obd2 adapter with Nakamichi android car stereo. The Bluetooth settings in the unit does not have the option to change the password which is 0000.All my obd adapters use 1234.Please help.
Also the joying unit in my other car connects with adapters that only have obd2 as their internal name..
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Other device but may be similar at yours?
https://aeproductsourcesite.alicdn.com/product/description/pc/v2/de_DE/desc.htm?productId=1005001703428444&key=Se92561883d744dee9e24c07f414d6f315.zip&token=468db5492ea6b7fa69529a9d4e7d656f
FYI my Android version is 11.I cannot find any setting for car as you mentioned in the above link.. Thanks
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I have been looking at getting a wondefoo android head unit for my Toyota Sienna. It looks like it has good specs (PX5 chipset, 4gb ram, 32gb storage) and the seller has quite a big selection of HU's on aliexpress for different cars but I can't find that many reviews of wondefoo units as compared to xtrons or seicane. Have any of you tried one of their units before and if so how was it?
I'm also looking at one. I know that this one: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/IPS...pm=a2g0s.13010208.99999999.280.2f743c0098GCRV is MTCD based.
tjhayko said:
I'm also looking at one. I know that this one: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/IPS...pm=a2g0s.13010208.99999999.280.2f743c0098GCRV is MTCD based.
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https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...ml?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.2.7eea57f6z1pbG2
I have this one from youmecity on aliexpress and find it to be superior in every way.. My previous one, the one that you are looking at, did not really have Android 8, it was Android 6, hacked to appear as 8. This one is also cheaper and ships free. Got mine in less than a week. Also their customer service is outstanding - they respond same day . I have had several of these Asian units and this is the first one that has been trouble free and is really acceptable, to me.
It also supports an external USB HD of up to 500MB. I have a Samsung 500GB SSD behind the dash and it works fine. I have no complaints and it has been in use since 1-1-2018.
thanks for the reply cardio77.
I was hoping for a unit with volume and tuning knobs, as my Rav4 doesn't have steering wheel controls for the audio. I was also hoping to go with a PX5 SoC as opposed the All Winner.
The hacking to make Android 6 appear as Android 8 is quite worrying though...
tjhayko said:
thanks for the reply cardio77.
I was hoping for a unit with volume and tuning knobs, as my Rav4 doesn't have steering wheel controls for the audio. I was also hoping to go with a PX5 SoC as opposed the All Winner.
The hacking to make Android 6 appear as Android 8 is quite worrying though...
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You could install malaysk rom on that system because it has an sd card slot, which should definitely get you android 8 as far as I know All the systems for the Sienna don't have a sd card slot so unless theres a way to install malaysk rom with usb or an adapter I'm gonna be stuck with the factory firmware.
I have ordered one of these with 4GB RAM and 16GB flash. I will keep everyone posted after it shows up.
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My head unit showed up yesterday, and I opened it today. It looks to be of reasonable quality, other than the word phone being misspelled on the button (lol). However, I've taken a look at the pinouts listed on the sticker on the top of the unit, and it appears the wiring harness is missing the wires for Canbus. Am I correct to assume that these would be the wires for steering wheel audio controls? I don't have them in my car, but I was considering adding one of the aftermarket ones.
Here's a link to photo with of the back of harness, front of the harness and pinouts on the unit:
back of harness
front of harness
pinouts
Is there a way I could wire them up myself?
I have one in my Alfa Romeo 159 with Malaysk 8.0 Rom installed. All ok, working pretty good.
Ah, I've realized that steering wheel remotes use the Key1 and Key2 lines. What's the best way to tap into these the wires in the harness?
Does anybody know where I should tap into wires for the following connections? They are on my harness, but I'm not sure where to connect them:
Amp-con - amplifier control
Ant
Tv-ir = ?
Back-car - reverse signal
Auto-ant - auto antenna power
Brake-ctl - hand break signal
Not a great start with this unit so far. I can't seem to enable WiFi on it, and when I look in the advanced network settings, the MAC address looks like it doesn't have a WiFi adapter at all.
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Haven't had any trouble with WIFi
tjhayko said:
Not a great start with this unit so far. I can't seem to enable WiFi on it, and when I look in the advanced network settings, the MAC address looks like it doesn't have a WiFi adapter at all.
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I now have 2 of them and no problems with wifi at all. The WiFi setting is on the home screen of both of mine, as is bluetooth. Settings can also be pulled down from the top of the screen just like any android phone. WiFi reception is much better than on my previous Joying HU. It is not 802.11 AC but 30~ 40 MBPS from about 60 feet from my access point in the house. I also found that you can use an ethernet to USB adapter for much faster results for downloading software and updates. I just run a cable out the door into the car and I get 400 MBPS +.
tjhayko said:
Not a great start with this unit so far. I can't seem to enable WiFi on it, and when I look in the advanced network settings, the MAC address looks like it doesn't have a WiFi adapter at all.
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the Bluetooth isn't working either. I suspect I've gotten defective unit. I'm following up with the seller.
cardio77 said:
I now have 2 of them and no problems with wifi at all. The WiFi setting is on the home screen of both of mine, as is bluetooth. Settings can also be pulled down from the top of the screen just like any android phone. WiFi reception is much better than on my previous Joying HU. It is not 802.11 AC but 30~ 40 MBPS from about 60 feet from my access point in the house. I also found that you can use an ethernet to USB adapter for much faster results for downloading software and updates. I just run a cable out the door into the car and I get 400 MBPS +.
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Yeah, I had no trouble finding the setting to turn wifi on, but it won't turn on when I tap on the button. I suspect the wifi and Bluetooth are defective.
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Yeah, I had no trouble finding the setting to turn wifi on, but it won't turn on when I tap on the button. I suspect the wifi and Bluetooth are defective.
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The seller says the wifi board (chip?) maybe unseated and is going to send me a video showing how to reset it. I hope that this is the problem and I can fix it.
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Well, I finally got a chance to get the head unit out of my car today to try to reseat the board, and it appears to have worked. I'm surprised because it really didn't feel out of place at all, but it seems to be working fine now.
well, the Wifi failed again, so I tried the same thing, and it now appears that the screen is messed up. I've done a quick check of the ribbon cables connecting the screen to boards, and nothing seems out of place. Here's a photo of the screen now
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/R...oH3OjNrPum2T2aVJdLnKcbMyoyYsyPQ=w1152-h679-no
Any idea how what I might have done?
DO NOT TRUST THIS SELLER. It looks like a frauder. I paid a navigation and after 1 mount the item is not even shipped. Now i am trying to get my moeny back.
Hey guys!
Been looking at a lot of android units, but have narrowed it down to two, one being a Wondefoo. The listing says the mic won't work with 'OK Google' etc. only for Bluetooth. Can anyone confirm? Is this the case with all android units?
Thanks in advance.
Hello everyone, first a greeting
and then I wanted to ask for information, having just bought an android car radio for my dacia sandero, and I found some problems:
1) bluetooth connects me ONLY to apple android phones but to no ODBII devices, I have tried 2 without success.
From here they go into settings I can't understand which car radio model is mine, Android 10 MCU STx, 8-inch display I try to attach some photos, if someone can help me with bluetooth or even flash the rom.
Asking sellers until now is unable to help me.
Thank you in advance.
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Looks like you're looking for support for a new purchase or recent purchase. In the first instance, what does the seller suggest when requesting support?
If the seller is unable to help you with your purchase, take some time to read through the forums, you might find a number of answers to your questions, with a little effort. Be prepared to give back, contributing - writing about your finds to help others.
I noticed your original post in Android auto has changed from this duplicate post, but that doesn't change your involvement to do some ground work and using the search function.
XDA isn't paid support, if your seller isn't providing you what you need, you have to make some effort - like searching.
kalamot1962 said:
Hello everyone, first a greeting
and then I wanted to ask for information, having just bought an android car radio for my dacia sandero, and I found some problems:
1) bluetooth connects me ONLY to apple android phones but to no ODBII devices, I have tried 2 without success.
From here they go into settings I can't understand which car radio model is mine, Android 10 MCU STx, 8-inch display I try to attach some photos, if someone can help me with bluetooth or even flash the rom.
Asking sellers until now is unable to help me.
Thank you in advance.
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It´s always the same issue...
Pull out the OBD dongle
Switch off BT on any smartphones you are connected with the head unit
Delete the BT connection to the head unit on all phones.
Delete all BT connections from your head unit.
Do a cold boot
Connect the OBD dongle to the car
Connect AT FIRST the OBD dongle and test the connection.
After the connection is established reboot the unit
Wait until OBD is connected
Connect NOW your smartphone by activating BT on your phone and search from the head unit.
no success
rigattoni said:
It´s always the same issue...
Pull out the OBD dongle
Switch off BT on any smartphones you are connected with the head unit
Delete the BT connection to the head unit on all phones.
Delete all BT connections from your head unit.
Do a cold boot
Connect the OBD dongle to the car
Connect AT FIRST the OBD dongle and test the connection.
After the connection is established reboot the unit
Wait until OBD is connected
Connect NOW your smartphone by activating BT on your phone and search from the head unit.
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HI.
I tried the suggestion without success, deleted the cell phones also restored the network settings at the time of the BT search (made from cellular settings) the ODBII device is found, but at the time of the connection it disappears and returns to the main search screen.
kalamot1962 said:
HI.
I tried the suggestion without success, deleted the cell phones also restored the network settings at the time of the BT search (made from cellular settings) the ODBII device is found, but at the time of the connection it disappears and returns to the main search screen.
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Did you set the PIN correctly? Mostly for these OBD devices is 1234 or 0000.
no success
rigattoni said:
Did you set the PIN correctly? Mostly for these OBD devices is 1234 or 0000.
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yes in car radio bt (phone) setting is presetted 1234, maybe better change in 0000?
time ago, i try to connect with my cell phone if isn't in mistake the pin is 1234.
cell with odbII
That depends on the BT dongle.
BT problems
rigattoni said:
That depends on the BT dongle.
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I try to connect again with the mobile phone to verify the PIN of the ODBII, after I try again with the car radio,
or if better i can download/use another application to setup the BT
I would like to try other ROM if possible, since there are other problems
1) the cell phone usb dongle is recognized, but it connects ONLY in 2G / 3G despite being a 4G with reduced speeds of course.
2) the BT menu is very brainy compared to that of a mobile phone, I don't understand the reason to put it under the TELEPHONE menu instead of elsewhere.
PS. if u can do we can connect with messanger cam or whatsapp to see the situation in realtime.
(i'm italian)
kalamot1962 said:
I try to connect again with the mobile phone to verify the PIN of the ODBII, after I try again with the car radio,
or if better i can download/use another application to setup the BT
I would like to try other ROM if possible, since there are other problems
1) the cell phone usb dongle is recognized, but it connects ONLY in 2G / 3G despite being a 4G with reduced speeds of course.
2) the BT menu is very brainy compared to that of a mobile phone, I don't understand the reason to put it under the TELEPHONE menu instead of elsewhere.
PS. if u can do we can connect with messanger cam or whatsapp to see the situation in realtime.
(i'm italian)
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I try with BT cellphone, and the password / pin is 1234 not 0000 the same as that set on the car radio but in the latter it does not connect
All Android radios have a reduced BT setup.
You won´t find any other implementations.... and no, you can´t change the BT app, this is dependent of the hardware.
Check the Alwinner threads with MCU: STM*** for any updates regarding your unit. I don´t know if there are custom ROM available.
...and no, no support via PN/Messanger... sorry.
rigattoni said:
All Android radios have a reduced BT setup.
You won´t find any other implementations.... and no, you can´t change the BT app, this is dependent of the hardware.
Check the Alwinner threads with MCU: STM*** for any updates regarding your unit. I don´t know if there are custom ROM available.
...and no, no support via PN/Messanger... sorry.
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No problem for support its only not important chance, for MCU i don't know where i can find upgrade.
but a bit question, ROM Custom or Not i know what mean, but MCU what do? that dont understand it.
Custom rom? yes if possible but for me if work fine i do downgrade, somethime the ROM downgrade its better than
upper version.
kalamot1962 said:
No problem for support its only not important chance, for MCU i don't know where i can find upgrade.
but a bit question, ROM Custom or Not i know what mean, but MCU what do? that dont understand it.
Custom rom? yes if possible but for me if work fine i do downgrade, somethime the ROM downgrade its better than
upper version.
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MCU: This is the controller for your main unit where the SOC is mounted on. You need to stay on STM*** what is mentioned in the system settings. May be there is a newer one, but to be honest... Please ask in the related threads. We don´t need tons of threads about one and the same units.
Firmware: This is the Android and customer software which is installed on your unit. Please read the related threads...
Hello, which brand would you recommend ? I've been reading topics here and narrowed it down to maybe those two. It is for Opel Insignia 2008 . I browsed some "tesla" style with the bigger screen which replaces my whole front panel of the cd which controls the partonic and has sport and tour buttons and they say it doesn't support them. Since my old cd is behind the buttons and the new one is only where the screen is , i disconnect the old one, will those tour and sport buttons work in a normal smaller multimedia system? Thanks in advance
ownice:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002790860130.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.4dd850d8O4zHWS&algo_pvid=73080daf-43b1-4c04-9f45-49a0eed39069&algo_exp_id=73080daf-43b1-4c04-9f45-49a0eed39069-2
teyes:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001652199168.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.1f79d486reoitB&algo_pvid=32aed0ab-39a9-4731-84d6-fcc49b1bd355&algo_exp_id=32aed0ab-39a9-4731-84d6-fcc49b1bd355-1
what i want most from this upgrade is a seamless and easy connection of my phone to the car - listening to spotify via bluetooth. Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice. I see those units provide fast charging via USB which is also neat. I want fast boot ups and not to drain my battery - i see this mentioned a lot. And hopefully not to lose any options for my car like comfort settings - sport, tour buttons, steering wheel buttons.
ivosto said:
Hello, which brand would you recommend ? I've been reading topics here and narrowed it down to maybe those two. It is for Opel Insignia 2008 . I browsed some "tesla" style with the bigger screen which replaces my whole front panel of the cd which controls the partonic and has sport and tour buttons and they say it doesn't support them. Since my old cd is behind the buttons and the new one is only where the screen is , i disconnect the old one, will those tour and sport buttons work in a normal smaller multimedia system? Thanks in advance
ownice:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002790860130.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.4dd850d8O4zHWS&algo_pvid=73080daf-43b1-4c04-9f45-49a0eed39069&algo_exp_id=73080daf-43b1-4c04-9f45-49a0eed39069-2
teyes:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001652199168.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.1f79d486reoitB&algo_pvid=32aed0ab-39a9-4731-84d6-fcc49b1bd355&algo_exp_id=32aed0ab-39a9-4731-84d6-fcc49b1bd355-1
what i want most from this upgrade is a seamless and easy connection of my phone to the car - listening to spotify via bluetooth. Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice. I see those units provide fast charging via USB which is also neat. I want fast boot ups and not to drain my battery - i see this mentioned a lot. And hopefully not to lose any options for my car like comfort settings - sport, tour buttons, steering wheel buttons.
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"Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice."
Neither of these are Android Auto.
I like the quick charger USB, ambient light control and IPS screen of Ownice. Plus, it does have Android Auto and CarPlay but you need to pay extra cost.
I normally don't answer these kind of topics as it is a never ending story, but maybe I or others can use it to copy around in likewise questions.
They are more or less the same when it comes to the software. They are FYT based and have support for the several versions of hardware.
But anyway, for all units be it FYT based, MTCx, TSx, AC8227, etc., etc., FIRST compare the hardware:
Check whether the screen is TFT/IPS/QLED (in increasing quality=readability). Go for nothing less than 1280x720 (1024x600 is not good enough anymore, but in the end it is up to you).
Check which FM-chip (from low to high):
TDA7786x or Philips (NXP) TEF6851 => budget chip without RDS.
TDA7708x => middle segment but good enough
Philips (NXP) TEF6686 => top FM chip
Check which audio chip (low to high):
TDA7388 -> budget, not good.
TDA7850/TDA7851: Both good. 7851 has slightly less power output with slightly less heat dissipation. Less chance of overheating. The TDA7851 has almost everywhere been replaced with the TDA7838, which should be identical in quality/performance (no idea, google around)
DSP: nowadays mostly ROHM BU32107. (Earlier ADAU chips are not so good but seem only to be used in MTCx units.)
CPU (fast to slow): UIS7862 (Unisoc ums512), SC9853i and PX6, PX5 AC8257, PX30, AC8237 and PX3.
This order is a bit discussable, but the uis7862 is definitely the fastest currently.
Memory: minimal 2GB, 4GB is fine. Some prefer 6GB but that is actually not necessary.
Now back to the FYT models you are mentioning. They are more or less comparable. It "seems" T'eyes support is better, but I leave that to the owners (Don't want to start a flame here )
ivosto said:
what i want most from this upgrade is a seamless and easy connection of my phone to the car - listening to spotify via bluetooth. Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice.
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What? Android Auto?
You are going to buy such an expensive high-power full-fledged full functional Android unit and use it as a cheap emulator for the restricted Android Auto?????
I really, really don't understand these kind of arguments. If you want to use Android Auto, for which you indeed sometimes need to pay separately, then choose a cheap unit which supports this as well.
ivosto said:
what i want most from this upgrade is a seamless and easy connection of my phone to the car - listening to spotify via bluetooth. Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice. I see those units provide fast charging via USB which is also neat. I want fast boot ups and not to drain my battery - i see this mentioned a lot. And hopefully not to lose any options for my car like comfort settings - sport, tour buttons, steering wheel buttons.
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Android Auto is crap
When people think about buying these android head units I don't think they quite get the idea that these are pretty much full-on android tablets complete with their own android operating system. There really is no need to run android auto. Things like spotify.... youtube... siriusxm... etc... can be downloaded from the google playstore and run directly from the head unit itself. All you need to do is supply a wifi hotspot from your phone, or fit the head unit with its own 4g card.
Thanks guys, really useful answers! About android auto - I have, had no idea it wasn't that good. I never had a car with more than a single colored screen and always see adverts about new cars which specify they have android auto or apple car play as such a huge extra. After all isn't this to link the phone to the car system and operate the phone from the display? What if I receive e call ? The Bluetooth/wi-fi connection will allow me to answer it from the car media? And lastly i really want to have it lazy - for example i get in the car - my head unit and the car connect somehow , can i make it play Spotify automatically ? is there something like Bixby routines or.. can it happen at all? Or actually i can do it from the phone - when connected to that head unit to play Spotify like I have a program to play automatically when it connects to a certain speaker? Thanks very much again!
ivosto said:
Thanks guys, really useful answers! About android auto - I have, had no idea it wasn't that good. I never had a car with more than a single colored screen and always see adverts about new cars which specify they have android auto or apple car play as such a huge extra. After all isn't this to link the phone to the car system and operate the phone from the display? What if I receive e call ? The Bluetooth/wi-fi connection will allow me to answer it from the car media? And lastly i really want to have it lazy - for example i get in the car - my head unit and the car connect somehow , can i make it play Spotify automatically ? is there something like Bixby routines or.. can it happen at all? Or actually i can do it from the phone - when connected to that head unit to play Spotify like I have a program to play automatically when it connects to a certain speaker? Thanks very much again!
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I have a simple bixby routine set up to turn the phone wifi hotspot on for use with the head unit, and then off again when I turn my jeep off. Of course the head unit automatically connects to that hotspot when it sees it. It's all automatic. I don't have to pull the phone out at all.
You can downlaod a tasker to start Spotify automatically if you wish.
Yes, your phone's bluetooth will connect automatically for phone calls.
Bob_Sanders said:
I have a simple bixby routine set up to turn the phone wifi hotspot on for use with the head unit, and then off again when I turn my jeep off. Of course the head unit automatically connects to that hotspot when it sees it. It's all automatic. I don't have to pull the phone out at all.
You can downlaod a tasker to start Spotify automatically if you wish.
Yes, your phone's bluetooth will connect automatically for phone calls.
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Bixby is Samsung only.
You can also use Tasker/MacroDroid/Automagic/Automate/etc. to do what you do what @Bob_Sanders is doing with BixBy.
When you switch on the unit it connects via BT to your phone. That triggers MacroDroid/Tasker on your phone for that BT device (the unit) to switch on the hotspot, which the car unit on its turn then automatically connects to.
And when you switch off the car/unit, your BT connection is broken and the phone hotspot is stopped.
Works all the time for me.
Wow!
The Ownice has a HUGE array of inputs/outputs on top of the normal ones... pretty impressive
Dual sub outputs
HDMI output
Quick charge usb
two rca video outputs
Atmosphere lighting control
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Hello Everyone. Sorry for my bad english not my native language.
I read all internet and cant find solution to fix my problem.
I buy this Heade Unit - https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/4000...t_main.21.21ef1c24K3NInA&gatewayAdapt=glo2pol
Afrter install everything working fine (steering wheel buttons, 4g, GPS, etc) only one problem with cetral lock. When I turn off the ignition after about 5 minutes, the central locking does not work with the remote control, and when I turn it back on works normally. Funny thing is that 2 people bought this radio but with android 10 (i have 11) and they all work.
I check canbus setting in the herad unit option and i have RZC >Peugeot/Citroen>ALL. The name of canbus is Raise but i dont have on the list that name. I can change RZC to ALLWORLD>Peugeot/Citroen?DS5 but what I wouldn't choose the door functions,sensors etc - not working. Only RZC >Peugeot/Citroen>ALL. have correct setting, but what about cetral lock? how to fix that -it looks like the radio puts the key module to sleep. in the settings I have something like lock control but some pin wants:
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serenity15 said:
Hello Everyone. Sorry for my bad english not my native language.
I read all internet and cant find solution to fix my problem.
I buy this Heade Unit - https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/4000...t_main.21.21ef1c24K3NInA&gatewayAdapt=glo2pol
Afrter install everything working fine (steering wheel buttons, 4g, GPS, etc) only one problem with cetral lock. When I turn off the ignition after about 5 minutes, the central locking does not work with the remote control, and when I turn it back on works normally. Funny thing is that 2 people bought this radio but with android 10 (i have 11) and they all work.
I check canbus setting in the herad unit option and i have RZC >Peugeot/Citroen>ALL. The name of canbus is Raise but i dont have on the list that name. I can change RZC to ALLWORLD>Peugeot/Citroen?DS5 but what I wouldn't choose the door functions,sensors etc - not working. Only RZC >Peugeot/Citroen>ALL. have correct setting, but what about cetral lock? how to fix that -it looks like the radio puts the key module to sleep. in the settings I have something like lock control but some pin wants:
I will be grateful for any wise advice
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You really should contact the seller.
As you did not show MCU and Android version, no one would be able to help here.
On top: The French cars are some sort of difficult and b i t c h y, when it comes to CAN connection and providing car functionality. May be you got the wrong CAN adapter.
Spoiler: photo about device
Seller send me canbus Raise like one the pictures
Spoiler: CanBus
tell me what to do?
And last thing he send me RAISE can bus and when i check in the settings i don't have that Can BOX TYPE, and must use like on pictures - because it's the only one that works (steering wheel buttons) but no central lock
Spoiler: CAN BUX TYPE
but i can update this:
Spoiler: UPDATE CAN BOX
can a bad canbox setting cause this problem?
serenity15 said:
can a bad canbox setting cause this problem?
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Yes sure. Even if you chose the wrong type (low, mid, high)
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That the door lock is not working anymore with connected radio, that tells me that there is a mismatching CAN box setting. Seems to deactivate the central locking mechanism, there is an interference in the CAN signals.
That should throw an error message in the OBD for sure. You need to get in contact with the seller again and tell him that there is an error which deactivates the central lock.
Ask the seller which CAN box settings to use. If the sell units for your car, they should know which version to use to get at least most things working as expected... But you should know: There is only a minimal set of functionality available for most cars. Mostly they are providing Clamp 30, Clamp 15, RVC and light.
If your car is not listed in the CAN settings, you should not count on any further functionality.
You can update the CAN box, if you have the right file for it. Did the seller send one to you?
I checked all settings. I can mark my car on the list but if i do this steering wheel buttons not working (only on that HIGH). I Update canbox but its nothing change (no new funcion, settings etc) work like basic.
maybe some settings of the radio cause the BSI to go to sleep. some function consumes energy and bsi sleeps to save energy.
Just to drop here some info that may be useful to someone. I had precisely the same issue with the central locking system on a Citroen C4 II e-HDI, basically same stuff as DS4. The problem was the canbus decoder (Raise). I was sent another one from simple soft (XP type) and it works perfectly. maybe it's helpful for someone else. regards
Sorry to resume an old post but I've finally managed to solve this issue without external players.
Basically, what happens is that the ****ty Canbus BOX "raise" it's like always connected and draining energy.
You can lost a lot of time talking to the chinese seller, OR (if you have a bit of DIY skills) you can simply connect the RED wire of the canbus box to any power source that goes on when ignition is on (for example any led or the lighter 12v).
After that you'll enjoy a car without any chinese headunit added issue!! Cost of this? 0 euros!