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go-phone: mms on unlocked htc hd2 without using data

hey there i have another question, you see im using the NRG rom on my unlocked hd2 and i popped the prepaid/gophone att sim card in and it set everything up for me. so i could use edge to access the web and all that, and send mms messages. but since i dont want to use the data on the phone and just wifi, i turned data off , but then i cant send mms's , so i dont know if theres a way to like mess up the settings on the data settings so that it sends mms's without me having to use data. btw i have the unlimited text option that states i dont need a data plan to send mms's. thanks to anyone who can help.

windows mobile can only send mms over data!!!

my o2 sets two data connections, one for data and one for mms. If i just turn off all data, i cant send mms, but if i use something like 'dialup enabler/disabler' i can turn off one or both of these, hence i can turn off only the actual data connection and leave the mms connection on.

samsamuel said:
my o2 sets two data connections, one for data and one for mms. If i just turn off all data, i cant send mms, but if i use something like 'dialup enabler/disabler' i can turn off one or both of these, hence i can turn off only the actual data connection and leave the mms connection on.
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Yes, and tmobile (US) is the same way...you can use MMS (as long as it's on the plan) even if you don't have any other data provisioned on the line.
EDIT: barronedson, I would suggest calling AT&T and asking what settings you need when you want to send MMS without a data plan, if no other members here have any suggestions.

[Q] Will MMS work over WiFi?

If I'm on WiFi, will MMS use my data plan or wifi?

MMS goes through your texting plan on AT&T. It doesn't count as data usage.

vel0city1 said:
MMS goes through your texting plan on AT&T. It doesn't count as data usage.
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So it uses no data at all? Then why does it require data to send mms?

You don't need a data plan to send an MMS, but it needs a data connection to send the information because it still routes it over the 3G connection.
Because of the way it routes the MMS as opposed to regular web traffic, they track it and don't bill you for data usage even though it uses the data connection.
That's how it is with AT&T on a locked phone, but I don't know about other carriers or if you are using an unlocked device.

T-Mobile yes can over wifi
http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm24195.xml
Other carriers....I don't know

matrx10503 said:
T-Mobile yes can over wifi
http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm24195.xml
Other carriers....I don't know
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Yea and T-mobile supports wi-fi calling as well and At&t Does not.
Pretty sure it has to be a T-Mobile Device With Wi-Fi calling option in order for that o work...could be wrong though.

MMS problems

I have been having problems for quite a while with receiving MMS messages and sending them as well. I am on a monthly pay as you go plan with no data and i am out of the tmobile network, (roaming still in US) but with my previous phone (sidekick 4g), I was able to send and receive MMS messages if i had wifi calling on. Now that trick doesn't seem to work but once every good while. All I get is the download option then my bars will get that "x" over them to signify no coverage and wifi calling will turn off and after a while start again and no progress will be made in the download process. I have tried having both national and international roaming on and neither seem to make a difference. I havent made any tries to change the apn settings. Could anyone help me solve my dilemma? Thanks any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Even though you're on a pay-as-you-go plan, you'll still need data enabled to send/receive mms messages. Otherwise you'll receive the message but never be able to download the attachment. My phone is on a plan without data, but I still have to enable data in order to send and receive MMS messages. I also need a good amount of signal (it has to be practically full signal) for it to go through. As far as my experience goes, you can't send or receive MMS messages while Wi-Fi Calling is enabled. Your signal bars show no signal because your phone is switching between Wi-Fi Calling and mobile radio. As for APN setting, I'm not sure which ones do and don't work. Whenever I have issues with MMS, I look up the values and re-set them.
TL;DR Just enable data and give it a try.

vicmora5 said:
I have been having problems for quite a while with receiving MMS messages and sending them as well. I am on a monthly pay as you go plan with no data and i am out of the tmobile network, (roaming still in US) but with my previous phone (sidekick 4g), I was able to send and receive MMS messages if i had wifi calling on. Now that trick doesn't seem to work but once every good while. All I get is the download option then my bars will get that "x" over them to signify no coverage and wifi calling will turn off and after a while start again and no progress will be made in the download process. I have tried having both national and international roaming on and neither seem to make a difference. I havent made any tries to change the apn settings. Could anyone help me solve my dilemma? Thanks any help will be greatly appreciated.
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I have T-Mobile as well. If you watch closely when receiving an MMS, you will see that although WiFi calling is enabled, the mobile data indicator will show up and transfer the data.
As far as APN settings are concerned, it has no effect on WiFi calling. If you can receive MMS when connected to mobile data then your APN settings are correct.

FBA21 said:
I have T-Mobile as well. If you watch closely when receiving an MMS, you will see that although WiFi calling is enabled, the mobile data indicator will show up and transfer the data.
As far as APN settings are concerned, it has no effect on WiFi calling. If you can receive MMS when connected to mobile data then your APN settings are correct.
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The thing is that I do have my data enabled and i do see the indicator showing the data transfer but its usually a "G" and the arrows neither go up or down, but its really strange yesterday I was able to test it out and I was able to recieve an MMS but I tried sending one right after and nothing happened. I will probably recieve the failed to send message later on today. I was just hoping there was a fix to this. And as far as I have seen with experimenting with it, WiFi calling must be enabled for me to send or recieve MMS if not I get the message of could not send or could not download right away

Data on tmobile

I'm able to call and everything and text but I can't get any data it says Lte but I get any thing

hazedabeast said:
I'm able to call and everything and text but I can't get any data it says Lte but I get any thing
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Sometimes my data is cut off for attempting to tether but a quick reboot usually restore it.

ddogishere said:
Sometimes my data is cut off for attempting to tether but a quick reboot usually restore it.
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I just got this phone... and since I got it I wasn't getting any data

You probably forgot to add the access point name for tmobile:
http://www.4gtricks.com/2013/04/t-mobile-4g-apn-t-mobile-4g-apn-settings.html

+1 you need to add the tmobile.com apn for LTE to activate.

T-Mobile MMS over wifi

Is anyone else having issues with MMS not sending over wifi? On my S9+ whenever I'm on wifi and have wifi calling enabled, my calls,text and mms all send when on wifi even if I have no signal. The OP6T doesnt seem to be sending the mms. Any ideas?

I personally haven't had them not send, but when I was on wifi only (airplane mode with WiFi on), it took a minute to send.

HaiKaiDo said:
Is anyone else having issues with MMS not sending over wifi? On my S9+ whenever I'm on wifi and have wifi calling enabled, my calls,text and mms all send when on wifi even if I have no signal. The OP6T doesn't seem to be sending the mms. Any ideas?
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Seems to be working okay for me, i also have wifi calling enabled and don't seems to be having any MMS issues,I have the stock messenger disabled and I am using the google messages app for messaging if that matters or not I don't know.maybe try going into apps and notifications and select see all apps then check under the three dots to show system and clear cache and storage under MmsService and see if that helps.

Sending WiFi through mms on T-Mobile is always iffy unless you're using an old S7 which has RCS support. Or you're sending to another T-Mobile user using the old RCS support.
It might work with your S9+ but it's not always consistent and in the background it will use the mobile data over WiFi, despite your WiFi calling settings.
It's not a phone issue, it's a carrier issue.
My solution was to get a cellspot from T-Mobile. They're free ($25 deposit that turns into bill credits after one month).

I just tried it sending messages to my wife's phone. I'm on T-Mobile USA.
Airplane mode on, wifi on, SMS sends fine. MMS sends fine.
Don't know what to tell you. International version of phone too (aka not the TMO variant).

HaiKaiDo said:
Is anyone else having issues with MMS not sending over wifi? On my S9+ whenever I'm on wifi and have wifi calling enabled, my calls,text and mms all send when on wifi even if I have no signal. The OP6T doesnt seem to be sending the mms. Any ideas?
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Ironically, it's the opposite for me. I HAD this problem on my Notes, but I don't have any MMS problems on my 6t. I agree that it's just a TMobile issue.

Works for me on the 6t

Thanks for the posts guys I figured out that it's random for me, which lines up with it being TMobile like you all suggested.
What fixed it for me is turning on airplane mode and then just WiFi. This works 100% of the tests for me, vs just turning on WiFi and waiting to make sure WiFi calling had kicked in. Stock one plus messenger app btw