Is there a Custom ROM / Rooted ROM for the S8 with automatic / easy Updates - Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers

Hello everyone,
I got a new S8 and am wondering, which ROM to choose. I have used Superman Rom on my S7 for a long time now and was happy with it, despite the fact that I had to wipe with every update.
Titanium Backup made it a lot easier - it still was a lot of work.
So my Question:
Is there a ROM which can be updated without wiping?
What I want is basically ROOT, google apps and if possible the original (or improved) Camera App from the S8. And it schould be stable.
I am aware of lineageOS, but the S8 support seems not to be so good by now.
Thanks for every hint,
H

gefo said:
Hello everyone,
I got a new S8 and am wondering, which ROM to choose. I have used Superman Rom on my S7 for a long time now and was happy with it, despite the fact that I had to wipe with every update.
Titanium Backup made it a lot easier - it still was a lot of work.
So my Question:
Is there a ROM which can be updated without wiping?
What I want is basically ROOT, google apps and if possible the original (or improved) Camera App from the S8. And it schould be stable.
I am aware of lineageOS, but the S8 support seems not to be so good by now.
Thanks for every hint,
H
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ok so basically
stock s8 firmware rooted : no more Ota and many root related limitations etc, but maybe able to flash Ota manually not sure
s8 firmware based custom roms: as with every new update the rom is rebased to latest firmware, always clean install always as the rom is a modified firmware, so always different (of course dirty flash might work but often result in issues of all kinds)
and with aosp based roms , most of the time yes, to update you can just flash rom then gapps and then just wipe caches/dalvik and reboot is its the same rom as the rom is the same and in fact just stock android so no big changes between builds.
But yes it's annoying but clean install is ALWAYS the best option, and easy update = no rooting
and for stability, the closer to stock the rom is , the most stable it would be. (and good camera = forget about aosp)
so I would recommend you batstock rom or batman rom (s8 version of superstock or superman), but update without wiping, except on unrooted ... not really

Thanks for your detailed reply - That's what I was afraid of to hear.
I will try to live with the limitations of non rooted stock - otherwise Batman or Batstock will be the next to try.

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[Noob Time] Why FLash To CM 10.1 ?

Good Evening Dudes
I'm just introduced on this section and it's first time than i ve had a stuff like this awesome samsung
Smooth Fast Strong And God ! it's the beautifull customisable stock rom (it's really beautifull to compare with htc stock rom)
well the question is not here and the target also
i've never had the oppotunitities to try a CM 10.1 on any device Htc desire x hasnt official CM and not possible to port CM10.1 cauz Htc doesnt provide the kernel source.... damn
(it's was juste for put in situation)
What's the real interest -Gain can i expect with the CM10.1 on the Galaxy S4 ?
Whith this rom it's sound interesting to put a custom kernel also.
what can we do with cm 10.1 than we cannot with a stock rom ?
Yeah a know , i can make a backup on my stock rom , flash the cm 10.1 try and if doesnt like it restore to the backuped stock.
Thanks for your time
If you had any other suggestion better than the CM 10.1 (i know it s on nightlies sound like equal as alpha but
topic is open :s
Well the Stock ROM is pretty much as bloated as a whale. CM is only 200MB in size, so first of all it will save space on your internal memory. Second of all, you won't have a lot of processes running in the background like you do now, your phone will be a LOT more responsive. Ofcourse, as with any custom ROM, there will be some bugs and those ROMs will need testing and updates (that's why nightlies exist). But eventually there will be stable versions and imo, it'll beat the stock any day. On the other hand, the stock ROM has some functions like the IR blaster, the smart-pause, smart-scroll and hover function, etc. If you're a big fan of those things, stick with your Stock ROM. But if you would like to a clean, simple, bloat free and faster experience than you have now, a custom ROM is a great way to achieve it. But that's not the only thing ofcourse, CM also has some extra functions and customization options you won't find in your stock ROM, you can tweak your system quite a lot and there are some things I couldn't live without (for example swapping your menu key for your recent apps switcher, and putting the menu function on the long press ).
Thanks a lot
Sound really interesting
CM 10.1 it's more in touch with i'm looking for
The actual build of CM 10.1 can be used on a basic day usage ? or it's better to wait a few days ?
If i flash the cm now ? need also to flash another kernel or just flash the zip by philw touch recovery ?
can i come back to my stock backuped rom after if i want ? with the restore function of philz touch recovery ?
I'm using Philz Recovery too and yes you can flash CM10.1 from there (I have the latest build from June 12th on it). Before you flash, make your sure you wipe/factory reset your phone in Philz Recovery. You might also need to flash the CM10.1 rom 2 or 3 times (the second time it usually works), on the first try it always gives a Status 7 error (don't worry). Look at the thread for the Offical CM10.1 Nightlies, there's a lot information there!
It's working pretty good for me, I haven't found any major bugs so far. Just make sure you make a Nandroid backup in Philz Recovery first (and store it your external SD card for safety and to save space ofcourse ). You can always return to that backup through the restore function in Philz Recovery yes.
Also, if you update your CM10.1 with a new nightly build (for example next week, or next month), do it manually and flash it in the recovery each time. Updating it from the Settings->About->Cyanogenmod Updates menu bricked my phone today, so I guess there is still a bug there. Besides that, there are no issues what so ever according to me.
PS: You're from Liege? I'm from Genk
last question before the first try
With the original Cm we need to flash gapps separately or it's inside the rom ?
If external suppose to take the last release on goo
If I remember correctly you need to flash it separately
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Try This one -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2296266
Yeah after flash the rom 4 times finally she install correctly ( 3 times error7 but no affraid)
Ui is clear, phone running smooth and very well no issue with wifi or 3g
The first bug i ve seen was about the carrier name -- the carrier name is showed like an id on a database (think the code for showed the cells with carrier name is not correct)
For the rest no speciq issue detected
Thanks a lot for your help
PS : i ve also find a answer to one of my question
when use cm you must flsah the gapps separately and link is coming on cyanogen page.
I ve read also than the build for the S4 T-mobile seems to work fine on this phone more bugs corrected on it ?
No trying BT for the moment cauz i dont had BT device
@disturbed : i ll try the rom linked this evening . Thanks a lot

OS replacement vs 'de-bloated' stock ROM?

Scanning the forum today, I came across this:
[ROM] Z.A.D.Mix7 -Stock Base Rom-
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It looks like it would solve all the issues I'm having with my A7:
Enable multi-user mode
Enable on-screen buttons
Replace ZTE's built-in apps.
Is this a safer route to go in general than installing Cyanogenmod (when it's ready)? I've got CM on my Nexus 4, and yes, there's nice stuff there that's probably not here, but is a de-bloated stock ROM more likely to be bug-free? More likely for the camera and sound system to work fully? Also, will a debloated ROM allow for OTA updates - or allow for them to be sideloaded? I guess I'm asking, if I were to install this, what would be the procedure to get Nougat once ZTE comes out with it? Wipe and re-flash? Or wait for a de-bloated ZTE nougat ROM and flash that?
In order to flash a ROM on your axon 7 you need to unlock your bootloader which causes your warranty to be void and you can no longer receive OTA updates. Also if you are running a custom ROM you will have to wipe your phone before flashing an OTA update. However if you are running the stock rom you will probably only need to flash the update. I've tried both CyanogenMod and Z.A.DMix7 and honestly Z.A.DMix7 is definitely the way to go. In my experience using Z.A.DMix7 it seemed to be as stable as the stock rim and didn't have any major bugs. The only problem I had with it is that since it it rooted there is no way to log into Snapchat. How ever if you don't want root I think there may be an way to remove root from the ROM however I haven't tried it so I'm not sure if it'll work.
I use the debloated rom with android n-ify, xStana, and gravitybox and it is much better than the stock rom. I haven't tried the cm rom. You would have to flash the stock rom and recovery to get OTA updates.

[Help] Back after long time, huge amount of confusion

Hello,
It's been almost a little over a year since I was last really into android customization. Since it's been so long it has become clear to me that my phone is outdated in many ways. I'm still running OxygenOS 2.2.1 with Android 5.1.1. I've been wanting to update up to Android N (7.x.x) for a long time now, but haven't seen any real stable roms or haven't really had the time to look for one. Now I've finally found my self with free time and ready upgrade my rom. I've just faced couple of problems, I can't really find what should I do when upgrading from 5.1.1 to 7.x.x since no-one is really doing that anymore. I remember reading sometime back that if you dont have the right firmwares you'll brick ur phone, and I wouldn't really want to go through that hassle at the moment. Is it still a thing or should it be just fine for me to flash a new rom just on top of this? (Ofc with clearing memory etc) Other question that is in my mind is that is there any critical bugs in Android N roms? It's bit unclear to me since there are such many roms that have their status as work in progress or beta etc, but some roms have status as stable. Are there any roms that I should clearly avoid? Im not new to this so I don't really need any deep info how to do everything etc, just a bit of a oversight on how things are going atm.
Thanks.
first of all is ur device rooted?? If yes then install the latest twrp recovery...then take a backup.. and flash any nougat rom which u like...If at all u would need Volte support then u l have to flash the 3.5.7 firmware..or else the 3.1.0 firmware works fine with most of the nougat roms..some nougat roms i would recommend are AICP, Resurrection Remix and AOSP extended .... In my suggestion u should probably first upgrade the Oxygen Os on ur device through official updates via OTA atleast upto the 3.5.6 firmware
there's no need to update until 3.5.6, unless you aren't going to plan staying with OOS [the only "stable" firmware which provides you VoLTE working, but it's still M-based and not N].
as @mhd athiq said, unlock your bootloader [just in case you still haven't done it before] then update your TWRP recovery to the latest version.
then flash the incrementals OTAs until OOS 3.1.x and you are good to go to flash any custom ROM which is N-based.
to avoid any mistake, please make a EFS backup via terminal [just to have a backup of your modems] and save the files to a safe location.
I don't have a specific ROM to suggest to you, but in my experience I have found the CAF/AOSP-based ones to be the ones with the best battery backup and less bugs then LOS-based ones.
I have used happily for a few months CypherOS version 3.5.1 [not the latest one, I find it quite unstable as the developers tried to implement OMS].
sidenote:
flashing N-based custom ROMs upon OOS 3.5.6 firmwares gives random reboots and unstable network in many cases/scenarios.
so don't update to that OOS version unless you have a mandatory VoLTE feature required [but you'll have to live with random reboots and poor network stability].

Is it true that samsung made it impossible to root an S8+ with the latest updates?

I seem to remember reading something some weeks ago that Samsung did something in their latest few updates for the S8+ that made it impossible to root them... is that true?
I'm running a SM-G955F - DTM here... and I'd rather keep it rooted. I'm using magisk to root my devices.
Any insights for me?
AFAIK, as long as if you have twrp installed, you can update to whatever you want.
you then can:
make a full backup with TWRP, and Samsung can't do anything against you just restoring the full backup (with the old update and root)
just flash whatever (custom)ROM you want.
You already are rooted, so OTAs aren't a thing for you. I don't know if there even exists a twrp flashable stock ROM, but why don't you just switch to a custom rom (with the newest updates installed)?
Honestly, the only custom rom i know of is lineage (nee cyanogenmod), and at least on my old S5 I found that the fingerprint reader does not work on cyanogenmod. also, anything that checks safetynet does not work either.
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Honestly, the only custom rom i know of is lineage (nee cyanogenmod), and at least on my old S5 I found that the fingerprint reader does not work on cyanogenmod. also, anything that checks safetynet does not work either.
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LieangeOS isn't even available for our device (infact it is, but unusable).
The custom roms available right now are all stock touchwiz roms with slight modifications (most of them aren't even necessary, thx to aroma).
Look over to a thread like the one from Renovate ICE, most of the time roms like these are based on the newest sources from Samsung with the newest security patch level. It has root (Magisk or SuperSu) included and also passes safetyNet.
As I said in the post above, you always can make a full twrp Backup, try a ROM like Renovate Ice and if you don't like it, just go back to your stock ROM in minutes. :fingers-crossed:

s7 rom?

hello,
i'm looking for a ROM, that everything works. Everywhere I read, this or that doesn't work.
I'm looking for something that isn't too old and everything works without a problem.
it is not necessary to have android 9 or 10.
Thank you in advance for your answers.
Someone?
I can't guarantee that every single thing will work but blackdiamond n8 is a fantastic rom. You can choose which bloatware apps you want and other settings
pzoli1989 said:
hello,
Nti'm looking for a ROM, that everything works. Everywhere I read, this or that doesn't work.
I'm looking for something that isn't too old and everything works without a problem.
it is not necessary to have android 9 or 10.
Thank you in advance for your answers.
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Then stay on stock rom its the best one that fits your criteria..
Also depends what you exactly need custom rom for.. you need often to sacrifice on somethings to get another ..
At this point.. if you are new to rooting and custom OS scenario, i recommend staying on stock.. because it is now more complex procedure and gives far more problems sometimes then it gives benefit. Imho the benefits of rooting/custom OSes are degrading slowly to the point where its just a useless hassle..
But ofcourse its everyone's choice.. you want to live on the edge by trying new OSes/new things/features you are free to do.. just make sure you know how to do everything safely, and backing up the vital data, like copying your nv data (the first thing after gaining su access), knowing the correct/safe procedure and please DON'T "ACCIDENTALLY" turn oem unlock off..
I personally recommend gaining su access by SYSYEM LESS methods plus magisk in order to avoid dm verity errors and encryption problems.. it also makes it less likely to mess with your nv data..
See alexndr's system less dev base and custom rom.. its based on stock 8.0 too (i think its all stock) and also stable too
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/rom-dqd1-devbase-v4-1-multi-csc-safe-t3591647/
OR if you want to live on the edge.. backup your nv data and try custom roms like black diamonds, hyper rom, deluxe rom and any other which is being actively updated/supported.. try and find your taste on your own and report problems on their threads (every rom has their problems)
But i would either root stock "system lessly" or flash alexndr's custom systemless OS devbase
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