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pixel xl, slower than One plus 3!?

No offense but I am still waiting for the pixel to become available to purchase mine, but according to this the pixel is slower than the one plus 3!? I already own a one plus 3 now I am bit skeptical if I should spend 600$ on a phone that is slower..

I wouldn't if you already have a Oneplus 3. Especially since a Oneplus 4 shouldn't be too far off, and it will for sure curb stomp the pixel.
That being said, I'm getting the Pixel just for the better camera and daydream. And currently I'm just using a cheap Huawei, because my note7 was recalled

you can get Google Pixel and Google assistant free. if you only want the software experience
work's with any Marshmallow device. with root and custom ROM.
video below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnjMRrRE0jY
OnePlus 3S or 3T coming out very soon with SnapDragon 821 might aswell wait

Pixel is pushing to a QHD screen.... oneplus is just 1080p;

geovass said:
Pixel is pushing to a QHD screen.... oneplus is just 1080p;
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ZTE axon 7 got QHD screen and is twice as cheap.

It may open up some games faster but its not a " faster" experience. You have to remember that these kinds of comparisons are never black and white. If this changes your mind then you're an idiot.

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It may open up some games faster but its not a " faster" experience. You have to remember that these kinds of comparisons are never black and white. If this changes your mind then you're an idiot.
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Why is not a faster experience one plus runs nearly stuck android. One plus is the closes to stock that you will get aside from Google. And it almost outperformed the pixel in every test. I dont want to agree as I will. E leaving the op3 for the pixel due to the quick updates for the pixel phone but is pathetic that Google makes a phone that performs just like a 400$ phone and price it twice as high..

egren58 said:
Why is not a faster experience one plus runs nearly stuck android. One plus is the closes to stock that you will get aside from Google. And it almost outperformed the pixel in every test. I dont want to agree as I will. E leaving the op3 for the pixel due to the quick updates for the pixel phone but is pathetic that Google makes a phone that performs just like a 400$ phone and price it twice as high..
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They are running two different versions of Android, and they have both optimized their software differently. The Pixel very well could have theirs optimized for battery life rather than app performance such as the OP3.. There are too many variables.

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They are running two different versions of Android, and they have both optimized their software differently. The Pixel very well could have theirs optimized for battery life rather than app performance such as the OP3.. There are too many variables.
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There is no rationalizing with folks who are caught up on the price of the Pixel......
I paid $37,000 for a Jeep Wrangler.. Thing has less options and modern amenities than a $20,000 Hyundai.... But it's a Jeep. It is what it is folks... More senseless grumbling, I guess it will subside eventually..
Sent from my Pixel XL

All I know is I've never had an android phone that was buttery smooth all the time like iOS runs on iPhone. The latest android phones i've used before the Pixel were the Nexus 6, 6P, 5X, Note 7, & S7 Edge and those phones always had hickups here and there in different apps so I've mainly been back on iPhone for the last 1-2 years. The Note 7 you could tell was snappy, but jump in the browser and start scrolling and it would 'hesitate' or 'lag' but it was never butter like the iOS browser. The Pixel is as close to iOS smooth that I have seen on an android phone and it is a very welcome feeling.

Like I've been saying: It's not about cold hard specifications. It's about how the WHOLE package comes together as a unit. The Pixel is a great example where the phone is greater than the sum of its parts. Google optimized the **** out of this device -- which is probably one of the reasons why it's so smooth. You could also argue that this optimization also greatly enhanced battery life. These two things together could take away from super-fast game loading which is why it's being beaten at this task by some older/lesser devices.
It's how you look at the TOTAL picture folks... like I said, it's not white and black.

GHII said:
All I know is I've never had an android phone that was buttery smooth all the time like iOS runs on iPhone. The latest android phones i've used before the Pixel were the Nexus 6, 6P, 5X, Note 7, & S7 Edge and those phones always had hickups here and there in different apps so I've mainly been back on iPhone for the last 1-2 years. The Note 7 you could tell was snappy, but jump in the browser and start scrolling and it would 'hesitate' or 'lag' but it was never butter like the iOS browser. The Pixel is as close to iOS smooth that I have seen on an android phone and it is a very welcome feeling.
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What would you chose a Lexus or a Mercedes-Benz?..

Believe me, the OnePlus 3 is not as great as many reports suggest - I can't wait to get rid of mine. It replaced a reliable Nexus 6P four months back and that was one of the worst phone decisions I've ever made. Why? Yes the OnePlus 3 is a very, very good phone in many ways. It's an piece of very solid hardware with a great camera and all the top specs you could want.
However, one of its key features that got my attention was the promise of a stock android experience. My mistake was I assumed that meant everything would be similar to my experience of Nexus phones (I'd had the 6P, the 6, the 5 and the 4 so far).Sure, I guessed updates would be less frequent, but overall I expected the same quality of software as a Nexus. How wrong I was. From the start, there were just so many bugs: for the first two months the on screen nav bar didn't work properly so I had to use the hardware buttons. There were problems with the mobile network connection; often settings i changed kept reverting to default after a reboot; notifications failed, ringtones were too loud; screen auto brightness levels were crazy; there were problems with SIM settings; and the battery drained very randomly. Wth every successive update that OP pushed out, only some of these bugs were fixed but even more new bugs were let loose. I think they've had to release urgent hot fixes for at least 3 monthly updates so far to address major issues. So now I can see why they are selling their phone so cheap: OP are woefully behind the bigger phone manufacturers when it comes to software development resources. For many that's worth it to save so much money, but not me
Worst still, if my own experience of OP's Community Builds programme to showcase and test new features is anything to go by, their stock android promise is about to be broken. They plan to introduce elements of their android software designed for the Chinese market. Think MIUI and you'll begin to get the picture. That's too much for any Nexus fan so guess what? My Pixel XL is ordered and arriving Wednesday and my OP3 is getting sold to my local second hand phone store right after that.
I can't wait to get back to a stable, reliable Google device again, even if the Pixel's pricing is ridiculous.

SpaceGooner said:
Believe me, the OnePlus 3 is not as great as many reports suggest - I can't wait to get rid of mine. It replaced a reliable Nexus 6P four months back and that was one of the worst phone decisions I've ever made. Why? Yes the OnePlus 3 is a very, very good phone in many ways. It's an piece of very solid hardware with a great camera and all the top specs you could want.
However, one of its key features that got my attention was the promise of a stock android experience. My mistake was I assumed that meant everything would be similar to my experience of Nexus phones (I'd had the 6P, the 6, the 5 and the 4 so far).Sure, I guessed updates would be less frequent, but overall I expected the same quality of software as a Nexus. How wrong I was. From the start, there were just so many bugs: for the first two months the on screen nav bar didn't work properly so I had to use the hardware buttons. There were problems with the mobile network connection; often settings i changed kept reverting to default after a reboot; notifications failed, ringtones were too loud; screen auto brightness levels were crazy; there were problems with SIM settings; and the battery drained very randomly. Wth every successive update that OP pushed out, only some of these bugs were fixed but even more new bugs were let loose. I think they've had to release urgent hot fixes for at least 3 monthly updates so far to address major issues. So now I can see why they are selling their phone so cheap: OP are woefully behind the bigger phone manufacturers when it comes to software development resources. For many that's worth it to save so much money, but not me
Worst still, if my own experience of OP's Community Builds programme to showcase and test new features is anything to go by, their stock android promise is about to be broken. They plan to introduce elements of their android software designed for the Chinese market. Think MIUI and you'll begin to get the picture. That's too much for any Nexus fan so guess what? My Pixel XL is ordered and arriving Wednesday and my OP3 is getting sold to my local second hand phone right after that.
I can't wait to get back to a stable, reliable Google device again, even if the Pixel's pricing is ridiculous.
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Valid point, I do agree that they are not very good in the software department.. I am myself getting a pixel I just don't think the pixel is priced right

egren58 said:
Valid point, I do agree that they are not very good in the software department.. I am myself getting a pixel I just don't think the pixel is priced right
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Its the same exact price as the iPhone designed to directly compete with the iPhone. Nexus phones were never meant to be a huge money maker for Google -- the Pixel is, and as such is priced and marketed as such.

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Its the same exact price as the iPhone designed to directly compete with the iPhone. Nexus phones were never meant to be a huge money maker for Google -- the Pixel is, and as such is priced and marketed as such.
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I think the pixel should of been a nexus 6p with a 5.5 inch display and updated specs keep everything else the same including the front facing speakers. Now that I would thrown my money at Google for.

egren58 said:
I think the pixel should of been a nexus 6p with a 5.5 inch display and updated specs keep everything else the same including the front facing speakers. Now that I would thrown my money at Google for.
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The Nexus 6P had a premium feel to it, but was made poorly. Watch what happens on YouTube when you try to bend one. I like the Pixel design much better... no visor/camera hump, much more study, two-tone unique back design, etc.

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The Nexus 6P had a premium feel to it, but was made poorly. Watch what happens on YouTube when you try to bend one. I like the Pixel design much better... no visor/camera hump, much more study, two-tone unique back design, etc.
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So your one of those idiot who actually attempts to bend a phone. Or wait let me guess your one of those who performs 50 ft drop test?!. ????????
Who the heck runs around attempting to bend a phone those reviews are stupid and my opinion. So stupid that prior to iPhone bend gate it dint even exist.
And the two tone is ugly af once mine arrives I will be putting a skin over the phone.

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So your one of those idiot who actually attempts to bend a phone. Or wait let me guess your one of those who performs 50 ft drop test?!. ????????
Who the heck runs around attempting to bend a phone those reviews are stupid and my opinion. So stupid that prior to iPhone bend gate it dint even exist.
And the two tone is ugly af once mine arrives I will be putting a skin over the phone.
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Watch how easy it bends ... He says "my 6 year old daughter could easily bend this phone in half".
You're the idiot for buying a phone that you think is ugly AF lpl

Returned my Pixel 2 for this phone, am i crazy?

I returned my Pixel 2 for the essential phone specially for that $499 price tag and to my surprise I don't miss the pixel 2. The only thing I miss is 8.0 but I have faith that 8.0 is coming to this phone soon. For those of you who haven't played with 8.0 yet trust me... It's nice!

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I returned my Pixel 2 for the essential phone specially for that $499 price tag and to my surprise I don't miss the pixel 2. The only thing I miss is 8.0 but I have faith that 8.0 is coming to this phone soon. For those of you who haven't played with 8.0 yet trust me... It's nice!
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I have the the Pixel 2 and the PH-1 right now for that reason, I have been bugging Andy Rubin and Essential on Twitter to update to 8.0. When the PH-1 gets 8.0 it will be the best device out in my opinion.

DanDroidOS said:
I have the the Pixel 2 and the PH-1 right now for that reason, I have been bugging Andy Rubin and Essential on Twitter to update to 8.0. When the PH-1 gets 8.0 it will be the best device out in my opinion.
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Your not crazy.
Honestly, the camera just stinks. Its gonna take Essential to really work on firmware and software to solve it. Yes, you can use the Google Camera Mod/Port, but that comes with its own set of headaches and it not perfect.
I would like Oreo and them to really show us they can take the LG G6 camera hardware and make them work like the LG G6 cameras.
If they can do that, I think it will show the industry that they mean business. If they just let it slide till Essential Phone 2, and don't show that they can deliver software and firmware, it will really show just how shallow and normal their company really is. Meaning, oh well... let them just buy our new one because its better for our bottom line.
I am REALLY in hopes that they want to prove and show that they are above the other trolling companies that just shovel out new devices. That would set them apart from the pack of the massive flood of phones by a sea of Android OEM's.
Show us your better than the norm Essential.

mackentosh said:
I returned my Pixel 2 for the essential phone specially for that $499 price tag and to my surprise I don't miss the pixel 2. The only thing I miss is 8.0 but I have faith that 8.0 is coming to this phone soon. For those of you who haven't played with 8.0 yet trust me... It's nice!
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This is going to sting a bit.
Price just dropped further down to $449 at BestBuy.
http://bit.ly/2y4iQfp

LordLugard said:
This is going to sting a bit.
Price just dropped further down to $449 at BestBuy.
http://bit.ly/2y4iQfp
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The Pixel 2 prices should've been lower, after having the phone for 8 days I realised that it's not worth 8 and $900+. No wireless charging, no head phone jack and the build quality is sub par. The squeeze feature is useless and you can't remap it. 8.0 is the only thing that sets the pixel apart for now

mackentosh said:
The Pixel 2 prices should've been lower, after having the phone for 8 days I realised that it's not worth 8 and $900+. No wireless charging, no head phone jack and the build quality is sub par. The squeeze feature is useless and you can't remap it. 8.0 is the only thing that sets the pixel apart for now
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Pixel 2 128gb is only $750. And you can remap the squeeze function easily with Flar2's button remapper and a simple ADB command.
Also, I can't agree with you about 8.0 being the only thing that sets it apart as the camera is arguably the best on the market right now.

xocomaox said:
Pixel 2 128gb is only $750. And you can remap the squeeze function easily with Flar2's button remapper and a simple ADB command.
Also, I can't agree with you about 8.0 being the only thing that sets it apart as the camera is arguably the best on the market right now.
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Yeah, but the 2 is ugly with those huge bezels, and the way too expensive 2 XL is looking too buggy.

spotmark said:
Yeah, but the 2 is ugly with those huge bezels, and the way too expensive 2 XL is looking too buggy.
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Well, true those bezels kinda suck. The 2 XL just had screen quality issues. I returned mine.

Ok cool I'm glad I'm not the only who made the switch

I hardly ever take pictures, so the pixel 2 has nothing I want.
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Its not easy to justify the price of the pixel but you do get a few things the essential phone doesnt have: IP67, stereo speakers, much faster updates, and an incredible camera. Is it worth it? Idk

I have my ph-1 coming today. I'm rocking a pixel 2 XL 128. I wouldn't even consider the smaller pixel for the dinky screen so I think the bigger pixel is more comparable. These 2 phones, both at 128gb are $529 difference out the door. Camera , waterproofing and speakers are advantages over the ph-1. I just don't think it's worth over five hundred bucks. Plus the screen is not the highest quality and I haven't heard anyone say this but the pixel fingerprint sensor is not the best. If you have the slightest moisture on your finger ,even sweat, it won't register. I just feel like at a grand, a phone better be near perfect. The only deal breaker to me would be if the ph-1 has connectivity issues. I'm also really into a smoother software experience which is unmatched by the pixel line it sounds. I DO kind of like the underdog company who seems willing to listen and try to make consistent updates to improve things. I think I'll be content knowing tthat those updates are coming and it gives you hope and something to look forward to... especially Oreo. Looking at that beautiful screen while waiting may very well be worth it!

Tell me a feature that's unique to Pixel 3

A feature that isn't coming to the pixel 2

Dual front selfie camera, louder speakers, Titan security chip, wireless charging.

And a ugly notch

Price! ?

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Dual front selfie camera, louder speakers, Titan security chip, wireless charging.
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So even though there were two speakers on the Pixel 2, now they are louder on the 3?!?! DAMN that's not fair

MrMagicPotato said:
So even though there were two speakers on the Pixel 2, now they are louder on the 3?!?! DAMN that's not fair
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The Google event stated 40% louder and clearer. Here is a comparison, but the speaker change is not mentioned here.
https://store.google.com/product/pixel_compare
Not really mentioned anywhere I can find now, but the event can be viewed on YouTube.

Still only 4 GB ram!

Pkt_Lnt said:
The Google event stated 40% louder and clearer. Here is a comparison, but the speaker change is not mentioned here.
https://store.google.com/product/pixel_compare
Not really mentioned anywhere I can find now, but the event can be viewed on YouTube.
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Are you gonna bite my brother? :silly:

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Are you gonna bite my brother? :silly:
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They made no mention of when full direct hearing aid support will happen with Google. "Some time in the future" is not working for me anymore.
I tested an iPhone for a week. Still don't like Apple designs and locked down OS, but damn, makes wearing HAs much more controllable, easier and more useful than I ever dreamed possible with my P2XL and damn BT dongle hanging around my neck like a dead rat.
Google needs to get their $#!+ together for accessibility support, they are not even on the same planet right now.
I'll give it a few more days to decide if I jump ship. Right now Google cannot offer me what I need to get on with my life.

Why Google can't bring the software features to the Pixel and Pixel 2?
We only get Flip to Shush.

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They made no mention of when full direct hearing aid support will happen with Google. "Some time in the future" is not working for me anymore.
I tested an iPhone for a week. Still don't like Apple designs and locked down OS, but damn, makes wearing HAs much more controllable, easier and more useful than I ever dreamed possible with my P2XL and damn BT dongle hanging around my neck like a dead rat.
Google needs to get their $#!+ together for accessibility support, they are not even on the same planet right now.
I'll give it a few more days to decide if I jump ship. Right now Google cannot offer me what I need to get on with my life.
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Shoot my friend, if I were you, I'd do what you gotta do to make your situation better. No need to suffer with HA's with a phone if you don't have to. I personally see no reason to get a P3. So I'll stick with my NOTCHLESS P2XL for another year

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Shoot my friend, if I were you, I'd do what you gotta do to make your situation better. No need to suffer with HA's with a phone if you don't have to. I personally see no reason to get a P3. So I'll stick with my NOTCHLESS P2XL for another year
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I agree there. Since most of the P3 camera features will come to P2 and P1, no need to upgrade. If I get an (ugh, ugh,ugh phone) I'll end up carrying two phones for the Pixel 2 XL camera.
I laughed at the "Flip to Shhhh" feature. I've had that for 5 years with Tasker! :good:

After going through the launch video a third time, I'm betting the new Titan Security chip makes rooting much harder than the current situation, if not impossible.

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After going through the launch video a third time, I'm betting the new Titan Security chip makes rooting much harder than the current situation, if not impossible.
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Guess google got tired of listening to the XDA crowd! So we'll just make rooting a thing of the past. "Say it ain't so Joe"

NingaR said:
Why Google can't bring the software features to the Pixel and Pixel 2?
We only get Flip to Shush.
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Because they need to differentiate the Pixel 3 from our Pixel 2 to make it seem better. Otherwise no one would buy it, everybody would then opt for the depreciating Pixel 2
Of course our majestic developers are going to make up for that difference!?

IP68

NingaR said:
Why Google can't bring the software features to the Pixel and Pixel 2?
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In the live stream Google said that pixel 2 will be getting Night shot, and keep in mind that's what they said about portrait mode but got ported to tons of devices.

NingaR said:
Why Google can't bring the software features to the Pixel and Pixel 2?
We only get Flip to Shush.
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The Pixel lines are getting other features also... Once the camera/software updates are generated through the app store for Pixel 2 & Pixel 1 models you will get many of the features like shush, night mode, camera depth, playground etc.

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The Pixel lines are getting other features also... Once the camera/software updates are generated through the app store for Pixel 2 & Pixel 1 models you will get many of the features like shush, night mode, camera depth, playground etc.
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You can adjust camera depth using Google photo now.

Anyone know what they are doing with the back button on the navigation bar?

Scrolling smoothness

Some phones exhibit choppy scrolling, especially when navigating long web pages when multiple apps are running in the background. Rate this thread to express how you smooth scrolling feels on the OnePlus 7 Pro under such conditions. A higher rating indicates that scrolling is always buttery smooth, even when you're reading a 10,000 word article on "how to kiss a girl".
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

For those who have a pixel 3 XL and this phone, has the Oneplus 7 Pro reached the fluidity and smoothness levels of Pixel? I know in the past, Oneplus phones have had problems with stuttery scrolling or just not being as smooth as Pixel phones. Is this different with the 7 pro bc of the 90 hz display? Specifically is there an improvement in profile gpu rendering?

It is perfect. I really cannot see any stuttering. And I am veeery picky about that.

I came to this phone from a Razer phone which had a 120hz variable screen.
This screen is great! Best of both worlds, smoothness of 90hz and coloura and brightness of OLED.

It's been the smoothest phone I've seen honestly.
I currently have Pixel 3XL, Samsung s10+ and OnePlus 7 Pro. This 90 refresh rate works wonders.

marevic said:
It's been the smoothest phone I've seen honestly.
I currently have Pixel 3XL, Samsung s10+ and OnePlus 7 Pro. This 90 refresh rate works wonders.
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Which one do you prefer? Do you think that it will be worth it wait for the pixel 4? I've got a note 9.
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Easily the smoothest phone I've seen, even compared to the mighty S10. Oxygen OS is seemingly a great version of Android that I'm loving.

This a dream come true...Smooth as Silk!

I've owned every Pixel phone out and this is my first OnePlus device. Honestly, I'd say that OnePlus knocked the stock android experience out of the park. It's as smooth as my Pixel 3 XL, but with 8gb of RAM, there is no stutter or delay. Even when having multiple apps open in the background, then opening the camera to snap a quick photo. I've had my Pixel 3XL straight up take around 8 to 12 seconds to open up the camera app when I attempted to either take a photo or record a video. One time, I had actually started recording a video of a friends surprise birthday party and the video was around 20 seconds in when the camera app just decided to closed out completely, while I was recording, and when I opened it back up, it never saved the video. Needless to say I was pissed. The the overall OS is better than the Pixel. You have native screen recording, scrolling screenshot (something Google claimed could not be implemented in Android Q so it would be put in Android R), and extreme customization options. Honestly the ONLY things that I miss from my Pixel 3 XL are the camera, the smart replies, and the dark themed Google App on the left home screen. the camera alone, is the reason why I keep my P3XL in my work bag. Also, since my OnePlus is the T-Mobile variant, I even have "Chat" functionality in the stock messages app, something that I'm still waiting for to roll out to my Pixel device.

totally. This 90 Hz screen wipes the floor with my Pixel 3 its insane. The experience is way smoother than on a Pixel.

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I've owned every Pixel phone out and this is my first OnePlus device. Honestly, I'd say that OnePlus knocked the stock android experience out of the park. It's as smooth as my Pixel 3 XL, but with 8gb of RAM, there is no stutter or delay. Even when having multiple apps open in the background, then opening the camera to snap a quick photo. I've had my Pixel 3XL straight up take around 8 to 12 seconds to open up the camera app when I attempted to either take a photo or record a video. One time, I had actually started recording a video of a friends surprise birthday party and the video was around 20 seconds in when the camera app just decided to closed out completely, while I was recording, and when I opened it back up, it never saved the video. Needless to say I was pissed. The the overall OS is better than the Pixel. You have native screen recording, scrolling screenshot (something Google claimed could not be implemented in Android Q so it would be put in Android R), and extreme customization options. Honestly the ONLY things that I miss from my Pixel 3 XL are the camera, the smart replies, and the dark themed Google App on the left home screen. the camera alone, is the reason why I keep my P3XL in my work bag. Also, since my OnePlus is the T-Mobile variant, I even have "Chat" functionality in the stock messages app, something that I'm still waiting for to roll out to my Pixel device.
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its perfect but your internet speed has to catch up, or it stops constantly

Walhalla said:
totally. This 90 Hz screen wipes the floor with my Pixel 3 its insane. The experience is way smoother than on a Pixel.
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While that's true. Let's not forget its a next gen phone compared to the pixel.

I've had all Pixel and OnePlus phones over the last few years. Let's not forget the Pixel is beast when it works right witch I'll say for me has been just part time. As for OnePlus I haven't had that problem. I've always regretted giving up my OnePlus phone when the Pixel comes out. I can't say the same for going to OnePlus. I have to be fair and say that Pixel camera though? when it works right
Oops I forgot I didn't own the Oneplus 5 or 5T. I also didn't own the smaller Pi El devices just the XLs
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wfe82 said:
For those who have a pixel 3 XL and this phone, has the Oneplus 7 Pro reached the fluidity and smoothness levels of Pixel? I know in the past, Oneplus phones have had problems with stuttery scrolling or just not being as smooth as Pixel phones. Is this different with the 7 pro bc of the 90 hz display? Specifically is there an improvement in profile gpu rendering?
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In my experience OnePlus phones have kept their performance way past the Pixel phones. Hardware has held up great compared. I can't tell you the frustrations I've had with bugs and returning phones. If you read up in many forums you'll see what I'm talking about. OnePlus lack of a great camera pales in comparison to my frustrations with the Pixel series. I have no brand loyalty either by the way. I've had most flagships including iPhones. Shoot I have the iPad pro and sold my XS Max and Pixel 3 XL recently.

@Reuben_skelz92
yeah, the newer soc probably helps, but I think the 90 Hz screen contributes the most to the buttery smooth scrolling experience. I hope there are more devices in the future with this refresh rate and that they are soon be able to build smaller screens with this tech.
@lkhafra
yep, the camera is also my last issue with that device. Thanks god / the devs that there is a modded GCam

Walhalla said:
@Reuben_skelz92
yeah, the newer soc probably helps, but I think the 90 Hz screen contributes the most to the buttery smooth scrolling experience. I hope there are more devices in the future with this refresh rate and that they are soon be able to build smaller screens with this tech.
Without the 90Hz i Take it over the #XL or even the 4. Google hasnt shown that their phones are beyond beta projects. I had almost every single phone from them Nexus line- Pixel. as far as I'm concerned Google hardware exists to make other phone manufacturers raise their game.
Hmmm dastest updates but takes forever n a day to address major bugs and to me has more than most others. How can the people that make the OS and do the least modifications be so bad at it. You would think they would run laps around everyone. I think they get a pass in the public because of camera and the fact that reviews go up before these major problems pop up. **** theres been major crap with the cameras going back to the original XL. I.d rather have relaible overall than when it worls right half of the time. It sucks but ill take a crappy camera over that.
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lkhafra said:
Walhalla said:
@Reuben_skelz92
yeah, the newer soc probably helps, but I think the 90 Hz screen contributes the most to the buttery smooth scrolling experience. I hope there are more devices in the future with this refresh rate and that they are soon be able to build smaller screens with this tech.
Without the 90Hz i Take it over the #XL or even the 4. Google hasnt shown that their phones are beyond beta projects. I had almost every single phone from them Nexus line- Pixel. as far as I'm concerned Google hardware exists to make other phone manufacturers raise their game.
Hmmm dastest updates but takes forever n a day to address major bugs and to me has more than most others. How can the people that make the OS and do the least modifications be so bad at it. You would think they would run laps around everyone. I think they get a pass in the public because of camera and the fact that reviews go up before these major problems pop up. **** theres been major crap with the cameras going back to the original XL. I.d rather have relaible overall than when it worls right half of the time. It sucks but ill take a crappy camera over that.
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Well I've never had may problems with pixels. Had every generation at some point... along with many other phones. It's more than just a good camera. Pixels always been very reliable phones for me. So what your saying isn't true for the majority of people. I'm not bashing anyone or anything as I'm now on the op 7 pro. Mainly for the better battery life
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Reuben_skelz92 said:
lkhafra said:
Well I've never had may problems with pixels. Had every generation at some point... along with many other phones. It's more than just a good camera. Pixels always been very reliable phones for me. So what your saying isn't true for the majority of people. I'm not bashing anyone or anything as I'm now on the op 7 pro. Mainly for the better battery life
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I wish I could say the same. I know it's not everyone but to me it's enough people and I've been knee deep in tech before the smartphone boom. You see this from so many people like me and the YouTubers/tech people so many tune into. You don't get a rep for no reason. I never thought I'd be so accepting of a crappy ass camera having 4 kids. Google hasn't given me reason enough to stick with them after a decade of support. I think OnePlus will fix their cameras before Google gets a clue. We will see. I've had over 60 flagships and don't want to keep switching anymore.
As the people who make the os for everyone their phones should be leaps and bounds better in reliability software wise. Hell as big as Google is they need to get hardware problems in wraps too. These aren't the old Nexus days.
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lkhafra said:
Reuben_skelz92 said:
I wish I could say the same. I know it's not everyone but to me it's enough people and I've been knee deep in tech before the smartphone boom. You see this from so many people like me and the YouTubers/tech people so many tune into. You don't get a rep for no reason. I never thought I'd be so accepting of a crappy ass camera having 4 kids. Google hasn't given me reason enough to stick with them after a decade of support. I think OnePlus will fix their cameras before Google gets a clue. We will see. I've had over 60 flagships and don't want to keep switching anymore.
As the people who make the os for everyone their phones should be leaps and bounds better in reliability software wise. Hell as big as Google is they need to get hardware problems in wraps too. These aren't the old Nexus days.
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We all have our own opinions
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Reuben_skelz92 said:
lkhafra said:
We all have our own opinions
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Of course we do and some are shared with many others. If you're not one of the ones effected great. For the ones that have been for years of well.
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From Pixel to OP

Whats up guys....its been forever since Ive had to root a phone due to having Pixel 1-3XL until now.
Ive been looking at OP and now that they have a true flagship I just ordered my 8 Pro TODAY!!! IT was finally in stock.
So my question is does the OP still have the features from Pixels like screening calls, screenshots from the assistant, etc?
Ill be doing some searches tonight...just trying to get some quick answers... a little excited.
TIA

thenewak said:
Whats up guys....its been forever since Ive had to root a phone due to having Pixel 1-3XL until now.
Ive been looking at OP and now that they have a true flagship I just ordered my 8 Pro TODAY!!! IT was finally in stock.
So my question is does the OP still have the features from Pixels like screening calls, screenshots from the assistant, etc?
Ill be doing some searches tonight...just trying to get some quick answers... a little excited.
TIA
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Good questions

thenewak said:
Whats up guys....its been forever since Ive had to root a phone due to having Pixel 1-3XL until now.
Ive been looking at OP and now that they have a true flagship I just ordered my 8 Pro TODAY!!! IT was finally in stock.
So my question is does the OP still have the features from Pixels like screening calls, screenshots from the assistant, etc?
Ill be doing some searches tonight...just trying to get some quick answers... a little excited.
TIA
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It doesn't have Pixel specific features like Call Screening, Recorder etc. But most, if not all, Google Assistant functionality is available on the OP8 Pro (as on many other devices)..

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It doesn't have Pixel specific features like Call Screening, Recorder etc. But most, if not all, Google Assistant functionality is available on the OP8 Pro (as on many other devices)..
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No Caller ID even?

masri1987 said:
No Caller ID even?
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The phone dialer app on the OP8 Pro is different than the Google dialer app so you don't get the standard features that the Pixel has.

I had OnePlus 7 pro and swapped to Pixel 4 XL. In overall Pixel is much better than any OnePlus device. As long as you don't really need ultra wide angel camera or 5g is not any reason to buy OnePlus. The difference between genuine Pixel software and Oxygen OS is so huge that using both is different experience, obviously genuine Android is far better in any aspect. Oxygen OS is Chinese crap which kills background activities like all Chinese Android skin and doesn't work stable enough. Finally you will have to flash buggy Pixel Experience rom and semi working Gcam mod instead for slightly better hardware which really not make difference in daily usage as long as the ultra wide lens or 5g is not absolutely must have for you.

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I had OnePlus 7 pro and swapped to Pixel 4 XL. In overall Pixel is much better than any OnePlus device. As long as you don't really need ultra wide angel camera or 5g is not any reason to buy OnePlus. The difference between genuine Pixel software and Oxygen OS is so huge that using both is different experience, obviously genuine Android is far better in any aspect. Oxygen OS is Chinese crap which kills background activities like all Chinese Android skin and doesn't work stable enough. Finally you will have to flash buggy Pixel Experience rom and semi working Gcam mod instead for slightly better hardware which really not make difference in daily usage as long as the ultra wide lens or 5g is not absolutely must have for you.
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I've owned a Pixel 4 XL and would still be owning it if it wasn't for the subpar battery life and the not too bright display. I'm not sure I understand your point about the Pixel's Android OS and Oxygen OS - they are probably the closest to stock Android (and the Pixel doesn't run "stock" Android but Google's slightly modified version of it). Have you tried any other manufacturers implementation of Android (One UI, Colour OS etc.) - they are way more different than Oxygen OS
I also think that you've forgotten about the Pixel also killing background activities in the past along with a slew of bugs that Google addressed over time - similar to what OnePlus will probably do.
Look, I'm not sticking up for OnePlus here - I think they did rush out a somewhat unfinished product. But I think Google did the same with the Pixel 4 XL and slapped it with some poor hardware decisions that cannot be fixed (No Ultrawide camera, small battery, 64GB base capacity and a relatively poor display).

Pixel line had so much potential and Google killed it with subpar hardware. Yes the software it's good but they also kill processes because of the baby battery. I was a nexus/ pixel only user, but Google left me no choice, and one plus is the only thing that could even come close to take it's place, and is a way better phone

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Pixel line had so much potential and Google killed it with subpar hardware. Yes the software it's good but they also kill processes because of the baby battery. I was a nexus/ pixel only user, but Google left me no choice, and one plus is the only thing that could even come close to take it's place, and is a way better phone
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I am in the SAME exact situation... Man, the days of crackflashing my galaxy nexus were suhweeeeeet. I am really looking forward to getting my OP8 Pro today and rooting it

Oneplus use designed battery capacity in marketing. In real world they use poor quality battery and to decrease degradation batteries are limited in software. E.X. In 7 Pro designed capacity is 4000 mAh for maximum voltage 4.4V but because of software limitation you cannot charge battery beyond about 4.3V. The real capacity is about 10% lower than declared. In Pixel 4 XL I noticed that new battery had 103 - 104% designed capacity. Finally on my 7 pro real battery capacity was over 200 mAh lower than on my Pixel 4 XL. In my opinion Pixel firmware is far better than Oxygen OS and the difference is really dramatic.

I came form a p4xl too to the op8p. Would love to get call screen. That's the only thing I am missing so far

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I had OnePlus 7 pro and swapped to Pixel 4 XL. In overall Pixel is much better than any OnePlus device. As long as you don't really need ultra wide angel camera or 5g is not any reason to buy OnePlus. The difference between genuine Pixel software and Oxygen OS is so huge that using both is different experience, obviously genuine Android is far better in any aspect. Oxygen OS is Chinese crap which kills background activities like all Chinese Android skin and doesn't work stable enough. Finally you will have to flash buggy Pixel Experience rom and semi working Gcam mod instead for slightly better hardware which really not make difference in daily usage as long as the ultra wide lens or 5g is not absolutely must have for you.
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Dammit, don't dissuade me from soending my money, lol. I was psyched to order this on preorder day but they ran out of stock before I could click 'check out'. Same for launch day. Now the shine has worn off since I've been waiting a couple weeks. Was gonna ship tomorrow but now I'm thinking of cancelling my order. I'm happy with my Note 10 plus but want the latest and greatest.

Oneplus 8 Pro has obviously noticeable better hardware in all aspects than Pixel 4. It's not bad bad at least my 7 Pro wasn't bad phone just software on my opinion is much better on Pixel. Some people doesn't care or install custom rom but since you try genuine Pixel you will notice difference.