How to keep app run in background and prevent it from being 'killed' by "Close All" - Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers

How to keep app run in background and prevent it from being 'killed' by "Close All"
Hello, just got my S8+, very new with android..
may I know is there any way to prevent 1 particular running app from being close when I tap the "Close All" button at the app switcher? I'm using the stock Touchwiz.. And i wish to keep that app run at all time in the background..
TQVM..

emfung said:
Hello, just got my S8+, very new with android..
may I know is there any way to prevent 1 particular running app from being close when I tap the "Close All" button at the app switcher? I'm using the stock Touchwiz.. And i wish to keep that app run at all time in the background..
TQVM..
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Just swipe away the apps you want to close manually and leave the desired one there, close all will close all, there's no way to change that.

emfung said:
Hello, just got my S8+, very new with android..
may I know is there any way to prevent 1 particular running app from being close when I tap the "Close All" button at the app switcher? I'm using the stock Touchwiz.. And i wish to keep that app run at all time in the background..
TQVM..
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You can lock the apps and prevent them from closing. In the recent apps, there is a 3 dot menu in the top right corner. Tap it and you will see the option for locking apps.

Charkatak said:
You can lock the apps and prevent them from closing. In the recent apps, there is a 3 dot menu in the top right corner. Tap it and you will see the option for locking apps.
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Ha what do you know, didn't know it had that feature, nice one!

I have this same problem. Trying to find a way to lock my Tile App. Turned off my battery saver so system wont close open apps. Tried everything i could think of and that is suggested
on line. Nothing works. Tile cant even help.
How do I do what you suggest?
How do I access the recent apps? Is it through the 3 line button at bottom of sceen where it shows small pages of everything open or somewhere else?
When I look there....the individual pages don't show the 3 dots.
Thank you for any help you can offer!

Cate11 said:
I have this same problem. Trying to find a way to lock my Tile App. Turned off my battery saver so system wont close open apps. Tried everything i could think of and that is suggested
on line. Nothing works. Tile cant even help.
How do I do what you suggest?
How do I access the recent apps? Is it through the 3 line button at bottom of sceen where it shows small pages of everything open or somewhere else?
When I look there....the individual pages don't show the 3 dots.
Thank you for any help you can offer!
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if youre in android 9.0 do the following
settings->apps->tap on tile app->battery->allow background activity

youdoofus said:
if youre in android 9.0 do the following
settings->apps->tap on tile app->battery->allow background activity
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Hi,
What you mean "tap on tile app"? I can not find "allow background activity". Phone is galaxy s8, android pie.
Few days back a call recorder apk sent me there and I realize this option is not deleted from android. It just hidden, like stop FB updates.

kingarthas said:
Hi,
What you mean "tap on tile app"? I can not find "allow background activity". Phone is galaxy s8, android pie.
Few days back a call recorder apk sent me there and I realize this option is not deleted from android. It just hidden, like stop FB updates.
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See the gif I attached

Ok problem resolved.
There is three options to be set:
1) "Sleeping aps" - go to Settings and type in search bar on top "Sleeping aps"
I Add all apk except: AutoBlutooth, Button mapper, Call recorder, Weather widget, Email and messaging apk
2) "Optimize battery usage" - go to Settings and type in search bar on top "Optimize battery usage" Click again on top row "Optimize battery usage", Click on "App not optimized" and change to "All", find apk that make problem by sleeping.
I Disable :AutoBlutooth, Button mapper, Call recorder, ect. I do not add here email and messaging apk, as they never have sleeping issues. Maybe because not have 3day(default sleep setting) not using them in a row.
3) "Allow background activity" - go to Settings==>>Apps==>>Select application you want not to sleep==>>Battery==>>Allow background activity
It will be set to Enable to all apk, that are not added to "Sleeping aps"
Additional step:
"Device admin apps" - If Application is already here, can give Admin status. It will prevent accidental change of "Optimize battery usage" and "Allow background activity"
p.s
This why my messaging apps have Enabled Allow background activity and Optimise battery usage.
Button mapper, Call recorder ect have Enabled Allow background activity and Disabled Optimise battery usage

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Some basic noobie Galaxy S questions

First up, hello to everyone.
I'm a new convert to Android having picked up a Galaxy S a couple of weeks ago, and I've got a couple of (what I'm sure are) basic questions about how best to work it:
First up, how do I go about creating folders on my SD Card. I'm assuming that's the best way to organise things like icons, themes, wallpapers etc.
Is it possible to edit the icons on the dock at the bottom of the screen? Can I put different Apps down there? Can I change the icons that those apps use?
I'm having issues with Widgets - do I need to restart the phone each time I install an app with a widget? There are some apps which allow me to use a widget straight away, but then there are some (like the BBC news feed) which just doesn't show up in my widget list
Can anyone reccomend a good link or article on how to root the Galaxy S? I'd like to it be as simplified as possible please.
Thanks loads in advance for both your help and your time.
Cheers
1)while browsing your sd card, press menu button and it will you the option to create a folder
2)click on applications button while on home screen to change to applications view, then click menu (left button) and edit, then you can just drag the icons in and out of the dock
3)not sure, widgets that i tried all ran after installing them without rebooting the phone
4)I suggest you check out the Galaxy S I9000 Android Development subforum right here on xda, there are some great guides there.
1) I just do it when plugged into my PC via USB in Mass Storage mode. =)
2) As random.si said.
3) I've never needed to restart the phone for widget...are you sure those apps actually have widgets?...Any widgets from the Market or installed apps should always be under 'Android Widgets' as soon as the app is installed, otherwise try using the app first as it may have a config or something.
4) There's a stickied guide in the Android Development subforum here! It's dead easy, so no worries there. Just follow the instructions to the letter, but that's not hard for rooting the Galaxy S.
Hi there. Could you just tell me how to close running application? There is 6 application when i open my task manager (middle button for 3 sec) and i cant do anything with them. Is there any button to close application, not minimalize?
Like now i'm installing facebook and setting up my account. Phone seems to hanging. I dont know how to close it?
mika34 said:
Hi there. Could you just tell me how to close running application? There is 6 application when i open my task manager (middle button for 3 sec) and i cant do anything with them. Is there any button to close application, not minimalize?
Like now i'm installing facebook and setting up my account. Phone seems to hanging. I dont know how to close it?
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Applications open in the background don't use any CPU time and if the RAM they use is needed Android closes them by itself.
Android isn't designed to let the user close applications. If you really have to close them for some specific reason you can use a task killer from the market.
mika34 said:
Hi there. Could you just tell me how to close running application? There is 6 application when i open my task manager (middle button for 3 sec) and i cant do anything with them. Is there any button to close application, not minimalize?
Like now i'm installing facebook and setting up my account. Phone seems to hanging. I dont know how to close it?
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Actually those 6 applications are NOT actually running(necessarily).They are just the last 6 applications you have used.
saldawop said:
Actually those 6 applications are NOT actually running(necessarily).They are just the last 6 applications you have used.
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Ok. Thanks very much guys for your help.
One more question.
How to enable vibration to incoming text message? Can`t see any option for that.
You should try out prehome. When you press home key, it will show the active task, and you can switch or kill task there. Press home key the second time will bring you to home. I love it.
Does anybody knows how to set vibration on incoming messages? Can`t find it. strange
mika34 said:
Does anybody knows how to set vibration on incoming messages? Can`t find it. strange
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Messages > Menu button > settings. It's at the bottom : D
Rawat said:
Messages > Menu button > settings. It's at the bottom : D
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Big thx for that.
mika34 said:
Big thx for that.
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If ever in doubt, always try the menu buttons.
Pretty much every app hides its settings and many controls under the menu buttons to stop the screen being cluttered up with buttons.
The menu button is also context-sensitive to whatever you're doing at the time, so you just need to get used to remembering it's there.
As the previous guys said, Android is designed to not have specific 'closing' or exiting of apps. Rather, they'll hide themselves in the background and once the system needs to free up some ram it'll close once you haven't used for a while automatically in preference of those using the most RAM. It will also usually save the state of that app, so if you go to use it again and Android has already closed it, it will still appear where you left off but just take a bit longer to start since it was cleared from the background.
Most apps will fully close however if you exit by using the back button (bottom-right touch button on the phone), basically reversing your way out of the app until you hit the home screens.
Holding the Home button shows the last 6 apps you had open, whether they're still running in the background or not. It's just a quick way to jump between stuff rather than an actual task manager.
In the JM2 firmware Samsung have added a great widget and task manager app. The widget shows the number of apps still running in the background, as well as a colour for if they're draining battery or performance (ie: processing lots in the background). All you need to do is touch the widget and it'll take you straight to a list where you can close any. Very handy!
While it's easy to get obsessed with using one of the task killer apps on the market all the time, I eventually found with my old Hero that it performed just as well if you ignore what it's doing with RAM or apps since it's intelligent enough to prioritise and close appropriate background stuff without your intervention.
The only reason people were recommending task killers for the Galaxy S was because of the random lags / stalls caused by bugs in the firmware, some of which were caused by it not closing stuff or managing itself properly in the background.
My advice: JM2 firmware and just use the Samsung task manager widget as a guide to if for some reason something high-powered like a game was left open and Android didn't clean it up yet.
Phone number format
How can I change the format of the phone number which is displayed when I have an incoming call ? Thanks ?
While writing SMS, contacts displayed twice
Hi to all,
When I write an SMS and want to choose a contact, they all appear twice, even tough in the phonebook they only appear once because I ticked the option of displaying only contacts from the phone and not from the sim card.
Is there a similar option in SMS that I'm missing here?
Thanks in advance,
Itay
Glad to see this thread has taken off a bit.
One more question from me:
random.si said:
1)while browsing your sd card, press menu button and it will you the option to create a folder
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I'm assuming I need some sort of File Explorer app to be able to do this - can anyone recommend one?
Cheers
Astro file explorer
is there any way to stop sms being converted to multimedia message? if i write a text message consisting of more than 3 messages (i believe 180 characters) it converts it to multimedia, which costs me!!!

[Q] Is the easiest way to stop and app...

I was just wondering if someone knew what was going on when you swipe away an app in the app switcher. (I'm not sure what the proper name is for the 3rd soft button so my searches haven't proved very useful - although I'm sure this information is out there!)
To be clear, you know how you can cycle between open apps by hitting the 3rd soft button? And you can also 'swipe away' an app here. Does this shut the app down along with all related processes? Does anyone know what's going on behind the scenes?
For example if I lose my twitter app this way I no longer get tweet notifications, but if I close gmail I do get email updates - but perhaps the latter is more tightly integrated or maybe I've remembered this behaviour wrong!
I guess what I'm really trying to understand is if this is the easiest way (without using 3rd party apps) to keep tabs on open apps and make sure my poor Nexus doesn't get overwhelmed by processes.
Thanks.
oops typo in the thread title.. should be "an app"
That third button is called a Recents button. And currently when you swipe away an app all it does is remove that app from your recents list but it does not close the app
Ah, great, just the info I was after.
no problem im glad to help
To answer your original question... Settings -> Apps -> Running -> tap an app -> Stop
truthkillszz said:
it does not close the app
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yes it does. could just try it...

Low Vision: Toggle "Magnification Gestures" With Widget

Hi I just got a Nexus 6p and its been great but I have low vision and if I keep the option turned on the phone, it becomes very laggy so I would like to only use it when I need to.
Help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you .
This isn't exactly what you wanted, but it's kind of close...
I use ADW as my launcher, which allows me to set custom shortcuts on my home screen. Other launchers might offer the same functionality.
I long pressed on my home screen and selected the Add tab on the popup. I then tapped Custom Shortcut, and tapped "Pick your activity." Next, I tapped Activities, scrolled down to Settings and expanded the list. It's rather long, but in that list there is one called "Accessibility(.Settings$AccessibilitySettingsActivity)". I selected that one, gave it a name (what it displays under the icon), and pressed OK. This created a settings gear icon on my home screen that when tapped goes straight to the accessibility options in the settings menu, and then you can tap the toggle for Magnification.
Alternatively, you should be able to do the same thing with Tasker if you have it installed and it's a bit easier. Make a new Task, give it a title (anything) and press the plus to add a step. Select Settings, then Accessibility settings (first option). There is some "if" options, but you can just tap your back button to go back to the step list. Create a widget for Tasker (1x1 task) and select the name of the task you just created. You then need to select an icon for the "widget" by tapping the icon in the lower right that looks like 9 squares in a grid. There are a bunch of built in icons you can choose from, or use your own. The result will be an icon on your desktop that goes to the accessibility options screen, allowing you to quickly toggle the magnification gesture.
Again, sorry this isn't exactly what you asked for, but it would save some taps. Luckily the mag gesture toggle is high enough in the list of options that it should always be on the screen when you open the accessibility settings, so you won't need to scroll.
Lastly, if you are rooted, you could use Tasker to also hit the toggle for you. If you want instructions for that, please do let me know and I'd be happy to share how to do that. It would allow you to tap the "widget" and it would then launch the accessibility settings, wait a second and then tap the toggle, and go back to the home screen. That way you wouldn't need to toggle it yourself.
fury683 said:
This isn't exactly what you wanted, but it's kind of close...
I use ADW as my launcher, which allows me to set custom shortcuts on my home screen. Other launchers might offer the same functionality.
I long pressed on my home screen and selected the Add tab on the popup. I then tapped Custom Shortcut, and tapped "Pick your activity." Next, I tapped Activities, scrolled down to Settings and expanded the list. It's rather long, but in that list there is one called "Accessibility(.Settings$AccessibilitySettingsActivity)". I selected that one, gave it a name (what it displays under the icon), and pressed OK. This created a settings gear icon on my home screen that when tapped goes straight to the accessibility options in the settings menu, and then you can tap the toggle for Magnification.
Alternatively, you should be able to do the same thing with Tasker if you have it installed and it's a bit easier. Make a new Task, give it a title (anything) and press the plus to add a step. Select Settings, then Accessibility settings (first option). There is some "if" options, but you can just tap your back button to go back to the step list. Create a widget for Tasker (1x1 task) and select the name of the task you just created. You then need to select an icon for the "widget" by tapping the icon in the lower right that looks like 9 squares in a grid. There are a bunch of built in icons you can choose from, or use your own. The result will be an icon on your desktop that goes to the accessibility options screen, allowing you to quickly toggle the magnification gesture.
Again, sorry this isn't exactly what you asked for, but it would save some taps. Luckily the mag gesture toggle is high enough in the list of options that it should always be on the screen when you open the accessibility settings, so you won't need to scroll.
Lastly, if you are rooted, you could use Tasker to also hit the toggle for you. If you want instructions for that, please do let me know and I'd be happy to share how to do that. It would allow you to tap the "widget" and it would then launch the accessibility settings, wait a second and then tap the toggle, and go back to the home screen. That way you wouldn't need to toggle it yourself.
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Thanks a lot!
So it sounds like theres no way to make a widget the will toggle it specifically, without rooting my device.
And if I do root it and use Tasker it will take almost the same time as if I didn't.
If thats no other way then I guess I should root it even though Id prefer not too.
Unless theres another way, Instructions would be great! Thanks again!
Are you familiar with Tasker? It's a paid app, but it's absolutely worth it and you'll find lots of uses for it. I use it to auto reply to text messages while I'm driving, mute my phone when I'm at work (calendar based) turn on wifi when I'm at home (location based), etc.
First thing you need to do is find the location of the toggle on the screen. Go to Developer Settings and turn on "Show Pointer Location". This will make a gray bar at the top of your screen that lists your X and Y coordinates at the top when you are touching the screen. Go to the accessibility settings and touch the toggle, taking note of what the X and Y coordinates are for that touch input.
To simulate touch input, can make a task that opens the accessibility settings as I described above, then add a "wait" command (Task > Wait), enter a value of 1 second. Next enter a command for Code and select Run Shell. Under the command, type "input tap x y" where x and y are the x and y coordinates that you found for the toggle. Make sure the "use root" box is checked. Lastly, add a Tasker command to go to the home screen (back to where you started with the "widget").
Back all the way out of Tasker to save that task, then go back in and press the play button at the bottom left side to test your setup. You should see it launch the accessibility settings, wait a second, toggle, and go home. The first time you run it you will need to grant Tasker root permissions, so be ready for that. If you're not quick to approve it, the task may proceed and go to your home screen before you press approve, so you might need to run it again a second time after you approve it.
If you need more help with, or have any questions, please do let me know. Happy to help.
fury683 said:
Are you familiar with Tasker? It's a paid app, but it's absolutely worth it and you'll find lots of uses for it. I use it to auto reply to text messages while I'm driving, mute my phone when I'm at work (calendar based) turn on wifi when I'm at home (location based), etc.
First thing you need to do is find the location of the toggle on the screen. Go to Developer Settings and turn on "Show Pointer Location". This will make a gray bar at the top of your screen that lists your X and Y coordinates at the top when you are touching the screen. Go to the accessibility settings and touch the toggle, taking note of what the X and Y coordinates are for that touch input.
To simulate touch input, can make a task that opens the accessibility settings as I described above, then add a "wait" command (Task > Wait), enter a value of 1 second. Next enter a command for Code and select Run Shell. Under the command, type "input tap x y" where x and y are the x and y coordinates that you found for the toggle. Make sure the "use root" box is checked. Lastly, add a Tasker command to go to the home screen (back to where you started with the "widget").
Back all the way out of Tasker to save that task, then go back in and press the play button at the bottom left side to test your setup. You should see it launch the accessibility settings, wait a second, toggle, and go home. The first time you run it you will need to grant Tasker root permissions, so be ready for that. If you're not quick to approve it, the task may proceed and go to your home screen before you press approve, so you might need to run it again a second time after you approve it.
If you need more help with, or have any questions, please do let me know. Happy to help.
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I just realized I need to buy an adapter for that USB C lol.
Before I go ahead with all of this work, your completely sure there is no other way to toggle magnification without rooting?
Thanks!
drewtass said:
I just realized I need to buy an adapter for that USB C lol.
Before I go ahead with all of this work, your completely sure there is no other way to toggle magnification without rooting?
Thanks!
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Sorry for the delay. I am not aware of any widgets. I couldn't find a widget on the Play Store or light Google searching.
Regarding the adapter, the 6p should have come with a short USB A to USB C cable specifically for connecting to a PC.
drewtass said:
Hi I just got a Nexus 6p and its been great but I have low vision and if I keep the option turned on the phone, it becomes very laggy so I would like to only use it when I need to.
Help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you .
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Have you used the built in magnification gesture? You turn it on in accessibility settings, then when you need something to be bigger, just tap the screen 3 times rapidly. You can use pinch to zoom to adjust the text size. When you're finished with it, tap the screen 3 times again. I use it when an app's text is just too small.
EMcTx said:
Have you used the built in magnification gesture? You turn it on in accessibility settings, then when you need something to be bigger, just tap the screen 3 times rapidly. You can use pinch to zoom to adjust the text size. When you're finished with it, tap the screen 3 times again. I use it when an app's text is just too small.
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Haha Yes I have tried it you have to tap your finger 3 times to magnify which means every time you tap something once it waits to see if you will tap more times and cause slight lag.
Niceeee idea bro, i will try it
moqueet said:
Niceeee idea bro, i will try it
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Are you saying you will try to make a widget like this?
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Sorry for the delay. I am not aware of any widgets. I couldn't find a widget on the Play Store or light Google searching.
Regarding the adapter, the 6p should have come with a short USB A to USB C cable specifically for connecting to a PC.
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No problem!
Lol I was so excited for my new phone I never checked but I found it !
Thanks I will root it when I get the chance.
i have the same exact problem,i absolutely love the feature as i wouldn't be able to use any phone with out it but it also gets frustrating sometimes (the touch delay) for example in the dialer app or Instagram.
a toggle in the notification panel would be great or an app through which you specifically enable/disable the gestures for each individual app.
any other alternative would be appreciated, somebody posted the same issue here with a possible fix (which i am not exactly sure how to implement) https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39685
hassanabid94 said:
i have the same exact problem,i absolutely love the feature as i wouldn't be able to use any phone with out it but it also gets frustrating sometimes (the touch delay) for example in the dialer app or Instagram.
a toggle in the notification panel would be great or an app through which you specifically enable/disable the gestures for each individual app.
any other alternative would be appreciated, somebody posted the same issue here with a possible fix (which i am not exactly sure how to implement) https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39685
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Nice to know I'm not the only one.
Sorry for the late reply been busy with school. It would be nice to have this option maybe like a button shortcut .
Hey guys so that way of using tasker is very slow and not feasible.
Is there any other way of making a quick toggle magnification gestures. It would be nice if I could hold the menu button to enable it. (IPhone tripple tap home button to toggle)
Thanks again.
I have low vision as well and have also found that leaving the magnification gesture turned on causes the phone to be laggy even when I don't actually have the magnification turned on. Instead of using that, I rooted my phone, changed the global DPI and I use App Settings (an Xposed module) to increase the font size in some apps or force the standard DPI in apps that have issues with the custom one.
There's a gestural workaround I've employed: if instead of just putting down my finger I drag my finger slightly (in any direction) then the lag almost disappears. Doing this helps a lot but obviously its a bit of an awkward gesture.
Al--g said:
There's a gestural workaround I've employed: if instead of just putting down my finger I drag my finger slightly (in any direction) then the lag almost disappears. Doing this helps a lot but obviously its a bit of an awkward gesture.
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How did you set it up?
There's no set up. I just do that gesture to get the scrolling to stop when I have magnification enabled.
GuinnessX said:
How did you set it up?
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Titanium Backup schedules not executed

Is anyone else having the issue of TB schedules not being executed when the phone is sleeping? I have set all the Battery Optimizations set to manual for both TB and the TB root key app. Sometimes the scheduled task is started when I wake up the phone and sometimes (at night) it's being ignored entirely. I am on rooted Oreo stock but I saw the same on Nougat.
Fixed
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Is anyone else having the issue of TB schedules not being executed when the phone is sleeping? I have set all the Battery Optimizations set to manual for both TB and the TB root key app. Sometimes the scheduled task is started when I wake up the phone and sometimes (at night) it's being ignored entirely. I am on rooted Oreo stock but I saw the same on Nougat.
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OK, fixed it - I had to activate it under Ignore Battery Optimizations
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OK, fixed it - I had to activate it under Ignore Battery Optimizations
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Having the same problem. Where is the option for "Ignore Battery Optimizations", is it a Titanium option or a system option? Thanks
palosanto0 said:
Having the same problem. Where is the option for "Ignore Battery Optimizations", is it a Titanium option or a system option? Thanks
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It's a system setting, somewhere under the Battery settings. I am not on EMUI anymore, so I can't tell you exactly. However, it didn't fix my problem permanently. I have moved on to LineageOS meanwhile, where these problems don't exist anymore.
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It's a system setting, somewhere under the Battery settings. I am not on EMUI anymore, so I can't tell you exactly. However, it didn't fix my problem permanently. I have moved on to LineageOS meanwhile, where these problems don't exist anymore.
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Unfortunately it does not work in my Xiaomi redmi Note 4X.
I found the option to activate "Ignore Battery Optimizations", however if I don't leave the Titanium backup PRO running, the scheduled backups are not performed.
Last week I have been searching internet for a solution, however still I have not found a satisfactory one.
Kind regards and thanks for your advice,
Javi
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Titanium Backup schedules not executed (or interrupted after being started) and/or its related notifications not being shown appears to be an issue that is caused by crazy additional 'features' as implemented at some devices to improve battery life. This especially happens at OnePlus devices running Oreo (Android 8), but may possibly also appear at devices of other brands (Xiaomi?). Therefore it actually isn't a shortcoming of Titanium Backup itself, but the result of some stupid app handling and killing behaviors that may be active at your device.
Also other apps that should permanently be kept running in background may be impacted by this behavior (being killed for the same reason) like Tasker, Sync-to-cloud apps, etc.
Especially at OnePlus devices running Oreo, following implemented crazy 'optimization' behaviors are playing a role here:
After a user has set Battery optimisation OFF for a specific app, it may automatically be set ON again after a reboot or after the app was updated
Background services may be killed EVEN when for the related app the Battery optimisation was set OFF
The 'Autostart' attribute may be ignored, so apps may be NOT automatically started in background after rebooting your device
SOLUTION
1. Make sure the 'Advanced optimisation' options are disabled
Go to Settings > Battery > Battery optimisation
Click the 3 dots in the upper-right corner and select 'Advanced optimisation'
Verify that the options 'Advanced optimisation' and 'Sleep standby optimisation' are both disabled
2. Set Battery optimisation OFF for any app that should continue to run in background
Go to Settings > Battery > Battery optimisation
Select the app that should never be killed, so in this example: 'Titanium Backup'
Select 'Don't optimize' and click DONE
Nb.
Above is not needed for the 2nd entry 'Titanium Backup PRO', which is just related to your PRO key payment and not the running Titanium Backup process itself.​
However, disabling Battery optimization for an app is NOT enough for preventing that it could be killed when running in background at OnePlus devices!
This not only because the 'Don't optimize' setting may automatically be reverted to 'Optimize' after a reboot or after an update of the app, but EVEN when Battery optimisation is actually disabled it's nevertheless still candidate for being killed at OnePlus devices running Oreo! Therefore also next action is required in addition.
3. Lock the app in your 'Recent Apps' list
Open and then close Titanium Backup (or just touch the Home button at your device after opening the app)
Touch the 'Recent Apps' button at your device
This shows your recent apps, where Titanium Backup will now be included (as last / most recent entry)
Toggle the 'Lock' icon in the upper right corner of that Titanium Backup entry, to switch it to a closed lock icon symbol
(see attached screenshot)
This last action not only just prevents that the app could be removed from your 'Recent Apps' list, but it ALSO prevents the issues as described above, so:
The app will not be killed anymore when running in background
The 'Battery optimisation' setting for that app will not be reverted anymore to 'Optimize' after a reboot or after an update of the app
When done, Titanium Backup schedules should now run as defined. Also, its completion messages shouldn't disappear from your notification entries anymore, but kept until you remove them.
OTHER APPS
Because it's not just a specific Titanium Backup issue but the result of the stupid behavior as implemented at OnePlus devices running Oreo, it's highly recommended to repeat the steps above for any app that should never be killed when running in background (eg. Tasker, Sync-to-cloud apps, Alarm/Alert apps, etc.). Also apps that are making use of scheduled actions, or should awake at incoming messages, chats, mails, alarms, or Security/Anti-virus apps etc. could be candidate of not being able to react properly because they were killed when running in background and/or not started at boot. When such apps doesn't always correctly react/awake at your device, just perform same actions as described above to prevent them to be killed. When an app still doesn't work because it wasn't auto-started at boot, you could use Tasker to create a Tasker-profile that executes a Tasker-task to launch such apps at boot. Start-at-boot via Tasker appears to be not required for Titanium Backup, but for some other apps this was my only option to ensure that they were auto-started after a reboot of my device.
Nb.
Some apps have options included in their internal settings like 'Keep active in background', 'Run in Foreground' or 'Turn off battery optimisation'. Even when these types of internal app settings are selected, they could still be killed at some device brands (eg. OnePlus) when the actions as described above aren't implemented in addition for such apps.
OnePlus: Never settle, but also never be so stubborn...
Thanks
Much appreciated for the fix.
Never thought about locking the app, great idea ?
Just stumbled over this post through a link. Many thanks for the info; in my case it's not only TB that's effected but also several other apps like OruxMaps and Automagic.
For completeness I post some screenshots from OnePlus 6 / OOS 9.0.4 (Pie) showing the changed recent apps screens and dialogs (in German, but I guess you'll get the picture)
paarnoutse said:
Titanium Backup schedules not executed....
OnePlus: Never settle, but also never be so stubborn...
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i was wondering why titanium is not executed in months.. and killed shortly even when i run it manually.
settings were great:
- no battery optimization
- no data optimization
- tons of free memory on RAM boasting 1+ (funny isn't it)
- recent app management=normal clear
- standby check=exempted
- keep activities
- deep optimization turned off
- sleep standby optimization turned off
and still it didn't help until i LOCKed the app. this is why 1+ and xiaomis achieve better battery scores than samsung
doggydog2 said:
...this is why 1+ and xiaomis achieve better battery scores than samsung
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(Spoiler: heavy OT post)
...which is what I really love about my 1+: 3 - 4 days between charging aren't rare here.
For the very few apps that are having probs (like track recording) with heavy battery optimization I wrote myself a script (am using automagic, but this should be also possible with Tasker etc) to disable deep opt. then start my critical app. Works great for me, but as always: ymmv
I can't find the setting to lock an app in the recent list in Android 10. Anyone know how to do it?
James_Oakley said:
I can't find the setting to lock an app in the recent list in Android 10. Anyone know how to do it?
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Each tile you see in the recents screen should show the app title and the usual three dots to open a pop-up menu. There you can lock the app, show app details etc
lm089 said:
Each tile you see in the recents screen should show the app title and the usual three dots to open a pop-up menu. There you can lock the app, show app details etc
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Thanks for taking the time to reply. Appreciate it.
Still not seeing it.
Where do I click?
James_Oakley said:
Thanks for taking the time to reply. Appreciate it.
Still not seeing it.
Where do I click?
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Your screenshot shows the app settings. You need to bring up the "recents" screen instead. If you're using the standard navigation bar that is the square button at the right end of the nav bar (screenshot #1, blue mark).
Then you flip through your recently opened apps until you find the one you're looking for. From then on it's as I described before: tap the 3 dots (screenshot #1, red mark). in the pop up menu select the "lock" entry (screenshot #2, green mark)
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lm089 said:
Your screenshot shows the app settings. You need to bring up the "recents" screen instead. If you're using the standard navigation bar that is the square button at the right end of the nav bar (screenshot #1, blue mark).
Then you flip through your recently opened apps until you find the one you're looking for. From then on it's as I described before: tap the 3 dots (screenshot #1, red mark). in the pop up menu select the "lock" entry (screenshot #2, green mark)
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Thanks - got it. When I read about "recents" in this thread earlier, I assumed it was when you go to Settings > Apps and you're first shown a list of recent apps. I've now got what everyone is talking about, thanks to your patient explaining. I'm sure this will help others too. On my phone, there's no nav bar it's all done with gestures, so you swipe up from the bottom of the screen - then lock Titanium in place. Bingo, and thank you.

Reminder is gone?

Hello, I cant find reminder in phone. Install apk dont work and galaxy apps and google apps dont find anything. Does somebody have working app? Sorry for english
You sure?
The app is there but you think to "need" to use it first. i.e. reject a call with a text etc and that will prompt the phone to launch the app for the first time. After that it will ask you if you wish to create a shortcut. I did this using a Nova Launcher activity widget to start the app and now I have the icon showing under the apps list as usual.
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The app is there but you think to "need" to use it first. i.e. reject a call with a text etc and that will prompt the phone to launch the app for the first time. After that it will ask you if you wish to create a shortcut. I did this using a Nova Launcher activity widget to start the app and now I have the icon showing under the apps list as usual.
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I have the same issue too. I see the reminder app in the apps installed list but nowhere as an icon or app in Samsung Experiece.
I tried the above method also but no prompt of reminder.
bill_viper said:
I have the same issue too. I see the reminder app in the apps installed list but nowhere as an icon or app in Samsung Experiece.
I tried the above method also but no prompt of reminder.
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Just ask Bixby to set a Reminder for you, that's what I did and then I had the icon.
Cyclops1055 said:
Just ask Bixby to set a Reminder for you, that's what I did and then I had the icon.
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I don't have the guts to activate Bixby haha
If you don't want to try Bixby, try "Nova Launcher" and create an Activity widget. Use the widget to launch the Reminder MainUI applet
In settings, under apps, go into the reminder app and in the top right corner you will see the settings icon. Select that, toggle on the online storage and finish configuring. (Add places, etc.) After you do this you will see the app icon in your app drawer.

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