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Hi,
I just came across this thread at engadget.com:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/06/motorola-unlocked-bootloader-petition/
It's just another petition but for me reason enough to sign it. I think this should interest you, too, when you are still looking for some more freedom!
http://www.change.org/petitions/motorola-mobility-inc-unlock-all-smartphone-bootloaders-2#
I already signed that. Though it is probably not gonna do anything for our MS2, I still think all Moto owners should sign it.
Signed that one too. I still don't give up hope for Motorola to make me stay as a customer
Hi all,
I'm contacting AT&T and LG Mobile to force them to release the KDZ and TOT for our LG G5.
I had thought about starting a petition for it, what do you guys think about it?
Anyone had luck with getting some answeres that might end up with AT&T releasing these files?
BTW, I used to own a Motorola Milestone in the past, and some forum member succeeded on cracking Motorola's bootloader, maybe he will help us here as well (I had PM him about this topic, let's hope he will give it a shot).
Thanks,
Mor
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16.4.17 - petition link had been added : https://www.change.org/p/lg-electro...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
Please, help us spread the word, it's a petition for all LG G5 devices, not only AT&T's one.
Meanwhile, I'm trying my luck reaching out for more assistance within AT&T and LG focal points.
I will sign the petition if you make one
I contacted them about this and they said that LG has the firmware, the I contacted lg and they said ATT has it, so i don'tknow
Kinda good news.
Yesterday I spoke with "oneclickroot" support team and tried figuring out if they will try to assist with rooting our LG G5.
The dev support APPROVED that they are working on it and it will take some time (crappy AT&T and Nougat's security).
About the petition, before I'm opening one, anyone else got some other ideas?
Thanks,
Mor
ForMartha said:
Kinda good news.
Yesterday I spoke with "oneclickroot" support team and tried figuring out if they will try to assist with rooting our LG G5.
The dev support APPROVED that they are working on it and it will take some time (crappy AT&T and Nougat's security).
About the petition, before I'm opening one, anyone else got some other ideas?
Thanks,
Mor
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Yes, kidnap senior AT&T exec and hold them for ransom. I'll bet we'd have root within 24 hours.
Ha ha, seems like a plan.
But, I'll pass this offer and try other ideas
Well, I had draft the initial petition design.
I need your help dear community to sharpen it.
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Last year, the LG G5 was released to the market.
Tons of new features, top notch SOC and the first flagship that offered HW modification.
All the community of developers and end users was happy and excited to create ROMs, kernels etc.
But, unfortunately, LG with cooperation with the massive Carriers agreed to lock the bootloader​.*
A year later, only two variets received the unlocked bootloader and all the rest left behind with a dying LG G5 community.
Our demend is that LG will unlock the bootloader and provide a TOT tool. Let us be free of the locked garden chain!
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Let me know what do you think about it.
*UPDATE!*
Petition had been published - please spread the word.
there are a lot of LG G5 users, let's try to make a change - together we can make it.
https://www.change.org/p/lg-electro...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
ForMartha said:
Petition had been published - please spread the word.
there are a lot of LG G5 users, let's try to make a change - together we can make it.
https://www.change.org/p/lg-electro...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
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Post that link on the regular g5 forum so we can get more people.
Done, please join the thread in the bigger thread in the Dev forum. https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/lg-to-unlock-lg5-bootloader-varients-t3590786
Thanks,
Mor
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Post that link on the regular g5 forum so we can get more people.
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Added a link there.
I guess we should switch our conversation and updates to the general dev forum
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/lg-to-unlock-lg5-bootloader-varients-t3590786
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We might can get a bootloader unlock.. But we WONT get a TOT/KDZ directly from LG or AT&T. Remember all those files are only meant INTERNAL use only. LG doesn't publicly post these files.
hyelton said:
We might can get a bootloader unlock.. But we WONT get a TOT/KDZ directly from LG or AT&T. Remember all those files are only meant INTERNAL use only. LG doesn't publicly post these files.
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You think we will get the bootloader unlock?
this phone is dead while another variants are celebrating their freedom
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My big mistake I bought an at&t variant. I was thinking its a USA based model and will be better than others. I was totally wrong. Never ever buy a phone on at&t contract. Worse choice ever I selected.
I am too thinking that It's a big mistake I bought an at&t variant.
Why AT&T not releasing Stock Roms etc. Whyy
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Signed.
My big mistake I bought an at&t variant. I was thinking its a USA based model and will be better than others. I was totally wrong. Never ever buy a phone on at&t contract. Worse choice ever I selected.
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I can't stand not having root anymore. I just listed my g5 up for sale, won't make this mistake twice. It's a shame, its not a half bad phone
hi! guys any update?
It was a random guy selling it by the train station where I lived. I was skeptical at first as it could've been stolen but at the end of the day I had my head am filming so I just took video of the transaction. Got it $15 cheaper than what the store was offering it for with a discount with a month of activation. Sounded fair to me.
The screen is what sold me. So much space to it. A Google search later and I was sold on it from the processor, screen size, and internal space. For $35 it wasn't bad.
Tinkering with it these few months has been nice. I've never owned an LG device before this one, can't say I will after though. I'm a Samsung/ZTE kind of guy. Those companies love the developers.
LG released source code like 4-5 months after the phones release, which really sucked development wise. We were pretty much screwed from the getgo.
A year later and there's not much development done for it but we do have the people making the effort still and that is what development is about. The ability to keep trying g no matter how long it takes. Who knows? Maybe we will find something new, or maybe LG will give us a new platform update (mm or n).
In the meantime, I still carry 2 phones as this one is just to tinker on.
Why did you get this phone?
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bro i know ,,one thing the thread i posted there,,is due to my intention,,i want to force the developer's so that ,the developer might come and involve in this ,,so that we can make our device,,work most out of it,,as u know that we both will think same,,as we want a custom rom ,,for this device,other wise there is no war between u and me ,,we both are friend's , as we developer should't fight for this type of thing's so ,,we are friend ,,we are in xda developing community ,,so what ever,,i commented u ,i am taking them back,,the k7 device, is great,,even pixel can't beat it ,,i know ,,but i hope any one compile rom,,and that's why i open many thread's daily and seeing if some one ,,can post any thread related to custom rom,,as i am i hope u understand ,,,becuase i am typing it ,fastly,,so kind to bare me ,,and read this ,,i hope ,,atleast,,i helped some one from my heart,,in some thread's ,,so thank you for ur comment's i'll take it postively,,and ,,it was my regret,,and i love lg k7 ,,i was my best phone never ,,thank you i hope ,,u like me
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This thread is not designated for this discussion you're bringing. This is a discussion on why users have obtained this device, reason why exactly people got it. What they expected from it.
As for your comments, I did not take them personally, I took them personally on behalf of the developers and users of the forum. As a community we must work together, not tear down whatever foundation is existent.
As for your participation, from my knowledge you helped with the as330 model as best as anyone could, but the ms330 model - you copied a couple posts which did more harm than good. Multiple threads of the same information to newcomers confuses them.
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This thread is not designated for this discussion you're bringing. This is a discussion on why users have obtained this device, reason why exactly people got it. What they expected from it.
As for your comments, I did not take them personally, I took them personally on behalf of the developers and users of the forum. As a community we must work together, not tear down whatever foundation is existent.
As for your participation, from my knowledge you helped with the as330 model as best as anyone could, but the ms330 model - you copied a couple posts which did more harm than good. Multiple threads of the same information to newcomers confuses them.
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thank you ,,for your information,,now i will expire all my thread's ,in xda,,,i think then you will be happy with ,,anyway thank you ,you changed my mind ,about k7 ,and yes now i will close my all thread,,i hope u be happy with me ,and my work
and sorry for as330,
and thank you,i hope we both are friend's now ,thank you ,and if there are any mistake's in my typing
I got this phone because I had upgraded from the LG L90 with T-Mobile JUMP. The lady told us it was a better phone in the store. It's really not that much different tho. I still like this phone though.
Now that android 7.1.1 rolled out to our beloved mini, is there any hope that zte unlock the bootloader of the phone, & eventually get root & custom roms? ( sorry for my terrible english)
ayoub.hariri.20 said:
Now that android 7.1.1 rolled out to our beloved mini, is there any hope that zte unlock the bootloader of the phone, & eventually get root & custom roms? ( sorry for my terrible english)
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Is there hope? Sure, as much as there was before... ZTE doesn't seem to be interested in helping any development on any device but the Axon flagship.
I have now emailed the (woefully inadequate) customer services department over 40 times in a hope that they are even reading their emails properly to see if we're getting the Android Nougat Update for the Axon 7 Mini in the UK. Alll I get is the same crappy canned and preprepared rubbish. I think this is so poor, I can foresee the company will be demolished next year if they don't sort out these updates and actually listen to their customers. I'm so sick and tired of this. ZTE....no future custom from me I'm afraid....last device I ever buy from you. You have officially **** the bed with me....it's a shame cuz the device as a whole is pretty good....I just can't give my hard earned cash to a company with this poor level of customer interaction and I now doubt the validity of the warranty you get with the devices. If mine breaks down....I wouldn't risk sending it in for repair as I don't think I'd get it back.... sorry ZTE...I shall be telling people not to get your stuff in the future.....you have officially pissed me off royally....
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Is there hope? Sure, as much as there was before... ZTE doesn't seem to be interested in helping any development on any device but the Axon flagship.
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Where can i download the official Axon 7 mini B2017G nougat?
Not sure if they are reading their emails, but someone from ZTE seems interested in our feedback. They posted this survey over on their own forum:
I asked for an unlocked bootloader on the last question. It is worth a try.
edit: long time lurker, but apparently I am not able to include links in my posts. You should be able to find the survey without much trouble. community DOT zteusa DOT com SLASH discussion SLASH 23709 SLASH axon-7-mini-nougat-feedback-survey
maybe someone else with a more established account can post a working link.
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Not sure if they are reading their emails, but someone from ZTE seems interested in our feedback. They posted this survey over on their own forum:
I asked for an unlocked bootloader on the last question. It is worth a try.
edit: long time lurker, but apparently I am not able to include links in my posts. You should be able to find the survey without much trouble. community DOT zteusa DOT com SLASH discussion SLASH 23709 SLASH axon-7-mini-nougat-feedback-survey
maybe someone else with a more established account can post a working link.
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Here you go...
https://community.zteusa.com/discussion/23709/axon-7-mini-nougat-feedback-survey
Now it is available (7.1.1)
Look this post https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73257562&postcount=13
i have pulled the ota zip for this model but im not sure what to do with it so here you go to whoever knows what to do.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YuH9d4RlgrmwhTnb1iIpd4ONrYdrgELV.
This is just a patch. Not the complete firmware. Typically only the full firmware is shared here not just a patch. Entire firmware will be much larger then 72MB. You were able to locate the questions and answers forum but the rom forum is where this belongs. There is a thread in there with complete stock firmware downloads.
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yea well im done caring. at least im trying my ass off to get the updated firmware for this specific model since no one else seems to give a damn about this device. this was my last ditch effort. i already switched to a z2 force so good luck to everyone on this. and ive already tried multiple times giving this device away to anyone thats a dev cause i intended on buying a new one but not one person wanted it so im just tossing it at this point. best of luck. if someone thinks they do something with this go for it.
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This is just a patch. Not the complete firmware. Typically only the full firmware is shared here not just a patch. Entire firmware will be much larger then 72MB. You were able to locate the questions and answers forum but the rom forum is where this belongs. There is a thread in there with complete stock firmware downloads.
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I am on a G6+ so throw a fit if you want. We have a dev who will be getting a device soon and I myself am attempting to build los 15.1 to solve the 1 remaining bug we have on Oreo-based roms/GSIs.
That said, I'm glad you're trying to help the community but there is a right way and a wrong way. Generic no detailed information posts like this can be dangerous. Is this OTA1 is it OTA2 is it OTA3? What firmware version is this to upgrade from and to? I see the version in the file name when clicking the link to your G Drive, but that doesn't help users searching through XDA who might find this patch useful. I don't think a google search result that showed this post would convert the URL to the file name. So even google search wouldn't know what to make of your post. Is it a flashable zip or is it flashed via the bootloader with fastboot? In either case how does a n00b know how to do that? I forget the Boost Mobile variant is a Jeter not Aljeter to which there is not even a firmware posted for(although I believe the Aljeter firmware can be used anyways and gives you a more stock google experience I guess). I did not say take down the patch, it's worthless, etc. I did say it is not typical to share them here. If you truly want to help members provide the proper/necessary information. If you want to cry and whine, don't expect sympathy. Pack your bags, and move on to your new device. You could probably sell it and recover some investment by keeping in mind there is a market segment who cares nothing about custom roms and such and may like to buy the device.
i would def like to know who this dev is then cause the only one that was doing anything has already messaged me saying they dont want the device lol. the boost mobile variant has only had one update so i didnt bother saying anything beside ota zip for boost mobile because its the only one we have recieved for our device model if people cant read thats there problem. its frustration as all hell to have someone saying what your saying right now when there is like me and one other guy it seems trying our hardest for this device and everyone else is like "hey lets watch the jeter guys fail". i had planned on cleaning up the post when im not as pissed about owning a phone with so little support. if you have any friends or dev friends that have this model and would be kind enough to pull a better ota file for us PLEASE be my guest.
Xplorer4x4 said:
I am on a G6+ so throw a fit if you want. We have a dev who will be getting a device soon and I myself am attempting to build los 15.1 to solve the 1 remaining bug we have on Oreo-based roms/GSIs.
That said, I'm glad you're trying to help the community but there is a right way and a wrong way. Generic no detailed information posts like this can be dangerous. Is this OTA1 is it OTA2 is it OTA3? What firmware version is this to upgrade from and to? I see the version in the file name when clicking the link to your G Drive, but that doesn't help users searching through XDA who might find this patch useful. I don't think a google search result that showed this post would convert the URL to the file name. So even google search wouldn't know what to make of your post. Is it a flashable zip or is it flashed via the bootloader with fastboot? In either case how does a n00b know how to do that? I forget the Boost Mobile variant is a Jeter not Aljeter to which there is not even a firmware posted for(although I believe the Aljeter firmware can be used anyways and gives you a more stock google experience I guess). I did not say take down the patch, it's worthless, etc. I did say it is not typical to share them here. If you truly want to help members provide the proper/necessary information. If you want to cry and whine, don't expect sympathy. Pack your bags, and move on to your new device. You could probably sell it and recover some investment by keeping in mind there is a market segment who cares nothing about custom roms and such and may like to buy the device.
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Just got the notification for update from Oct to Nov security patch. I'll download tonight. Xt1922-7
Version info
Xplorer4x4 said:
I am on a G6+ so throw a fit if you want. We have a dev who will be getting a device soon and I myself am attempting to build los 15.1 to solve the 1 remaining bug we have on Oreo-based roms/GSIs.
That said, I'm glad you're trying to help the community but there is a right way and a wrong way. Generic no detailed information posts like this can be dangerous. Is this OTA1 is it OTA2 is it OTA3? What firmware version is this to upgrade from and to? I see the version in the file name when clicking the link to your G Drive, but that doesn't help users searching through XDA who might find this patch useful. I don't think a google search result that showed this post would convert the URL to the file name. So even google search wouldn't know what to make of your post. Is it a flashable zip or is it flashed via the bootloader with fastboot? In either case how does a n00b know how to do that? I forget the Boost Mobile variant is a Jeter not Aljeter to which there is not even a firmware posted for(although I believe the Aljeter firmware can be used anyways and gives you a more stock google experience I guess). I did not say take down the patch, it's worthless, etc. I did say it is not typical to share them here. If you truly want to help members provide the proper/necessary information. If you want to cry and whine, don't expect sympathy. Pack your bags, and move on to your new device. You could probably sell it and recover some investment by keeping in mind there is a market segment who cares nothing about custom roms and such and may like to buy the device.
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Contrary to what you said about no firmwares being around for the Boost Mobile variant of the G6 Play, but, there is firmware available for it, even though it uses the Sprint branded firmware the firmwares are still there for it, after use the phone will provision and activate itself for Boost Mobile per your account that's attached to it, here's a direct link to the firmwares for it: Sprint firmwares for JETER XT-1922-7, it even has the latest firmware for the last OTA patch we got for the November Security Patch Level
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Xplorer4x4 said:
I am on a G6+ so throw a fit if you want. We have a dev who will be getting a device soon and I myself am attempting to build los 15.1 to solve the 1 remaining bug we have on Oreo-based roms/GSIs.
That said, I'm glad you're trying to help the community but there is a right way and a wrong way. Generic no detailed information posts like this can be dangerous. Is this OTA1 is it OTA2 is it OTA3? What firmware version is this to upgrade from and to? I see the version in the file name when clicking the link to your G Drive, but that doesn't help users searching through XDA who might find this patch useful. I don't think a google search result that showed this post would convert the URL to the file name. So even google search wouldn't know what to make of your post. Is it a flashable zip or is it flashed via the bootloader with fastboot? In either case how does a n00b know how to do that? I forget the Boost Mobile variant is a Jeter not Aljeter to which there is not even a firmware posted for(although I believe the Aljeter firmware can be used anyways and gives you a more stock google experience I guess). I did not say take down the patch, it's worthless, etc. I did say it is not typical to share them here. If you truly want to help members provide the proper/necessary information. If you want to cry and whine, don't expect sympathy. Pack your bags, and move on to your new device. You could probably sell it and recover some investment by keeping in mind there is a market segment who cares nothing about custom roms and such and may like to buy the device.
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ninjakira said:
i would def like to know who this dev is then cause the only one that was doing anything has already messaged me saying they dont want the device lol. the boost mobile variant has only had one update so i didnt bother saying anything beside ota zip for boost mobile because its the only one we have recieved for our device model if people cant read thats there problem. its frustration as all hell to have someone saying what your saying right now when there is like me and one other guy it seems trying our hardest for this device and everyone else is like "hey lets watch the jeter guys fail". i had planned on cleaning up the post when im not as pissed about owning a phone with so little support. if you have any friends or dev friends that have this model and would be kind enough to pull a better ota file for us PLEASE be my guest.
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My Boost Mobile G6 Play has gotten 3 OTAs since I bought it last July
PimpMy5Ton said:
Contrary to what you said about no firmwares being around for the Boost Mobile variant of the G6 Play, but, there is firmware available for it, even though it uses the Sprint branded firmware the firmwares are still there for it, after use the phone will provision and activate itself for Boost Mobile per your account that's attached to it, here's a direct link to the firmwares for it: Sprint firmwares for JETER XT-1922-7, it even has the latest firmware for the last OTA patch we got for the November Security Patch Level
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My Boost Mobile G6 Play has gotten 3 OTAs since I bought it last July
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?? That was from a few months ago when there wasn't anything uploaded on lolinet and people were complaining about it hard. so calm down lol. We've all gotten 3 updates since then and uploaded on lolinet.
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That was from a few months ago when there wasn't anything uploaded on lolinet and people were complaining about it hard. so calm down lol. We've all gotten 3 updates since then and uploaded on lolinet.
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I'm calm, just sayin' lol, I think it's funny how people don't wanna wait on development on new devices, in my opinion if you can't wait don't buy the new device, if you buy it knowing that there's not any development available for it then don't complain, it'll just be ignored.
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I'm calm, just sayin' lol, I think it's funny how people don't wanna wait on development on new devices, in my opinion if you can't wait don't buy the new device, if you buy it knowing that there's not any development available for it then don't complain, it'll just be ignored.
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Lol sorry. My customer service side took over for. Sec ? but yeah your right. Thats basically what's happened to is I've just started ignoring the people as ****ty as that does sound. Once it's out we will know lol.
I know this is an old post but...
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i would def like to know who this dev is then cause the only one that was doing anything has already messaged me saying they dont want the device lol. the boost mobile variant has only had one update so i didnt bother saying anything beside ota zip for boost mobile because its the only one we have recieved for our device model if people cant read thats there problem. its frustration as all hell to have someone saying what your saying right now when there is like me and one other guy it seems trying our hardest for this device and everyone else is like "hey lets watch the jeter guys fail". i had planned on cleaning up the post when im not as pissed about owning a phone with so little support. if you have any friends or dev friends that have this model and would be kind enough to pull a better ota file for us PLEASE be my guest.
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In no way do I consider myself a developer, as I am certified n00b status.
But after reading this thread, I've decided to accomplish a goal I've had in mind for a while, for which I have found very little documentation. If I am successful, I'll post a guide. I'm glad the people who know what they're doing can login to sites like this and give the little guys a fighting chance. Thanks!
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In no way do I consider myself a developer, as I am certified n00b status.
But after reading this thread, I've decided to accomplish a goal I've had in mind for a while, for which I have found very little documentation. If I am successful, I'll post a guide. I'm glad the people who know what they're doing can login to sites like this and give the little guys a fighting chance. Thanks!
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Dude this post is old. Like a year old now. I've made the guide for decrypting and rooting and even reflashing stock firmware that I also keep updated. I highly advise you to read everything within the Moto g6 play forum to make sure your not basically gonna be copying me and or just gonna create another guide that will have no point in it actually being here because my guide already covers it.
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Dude this post is old. Like a year old now. I've made the guide for decrypting and rooting and even reflashing stock firmware that I also keep updated. I highly advise you to read everything within the Moto g6 play forum to make sure your not basically gonna be copying me and or just gonna create another guide that will have no point in it actually being here because my guide already covers it.
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You're being a ****, ****. I was literally thanking you guys, I acknowledged it was an od thread in the title. I thanked you, and the other handful of devs for helping out guys like me, who don't have all of the knowledge to develop themselves, or the money to buy a nicer phone with more support. Anyway I don't hold grudges and I still appreciate your contributions. I'm trying to update mine to Pie but can't find any official files to do so. Anyways ill figure it out, it's just that my moms pixel 2 just broke and we don't have the money to fix it just yet to im really trying to get my jeter ready for her because she needs the phone in order to work. But before all of this i was going to try and compile a custom kernel from scratch for the jeter, for use with the news Andrax Pentesting Framework so that I could finally experience airodump/wifite without external adapter. looks like its gonna have to wait. mom comes first. have a good night bro see ya around.:good:
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You're being a ****, ****. I was literally thanking you guys, I acknowledged it was an od thread in the title. I thanked you, and the other handful of devs for helping out guys like me, who don't have all of the knowledge to develop themselves, or the money to buy a nicer phone with more support. Anyway I don't hold grudges and I still appreciate your contributions. I'm trying to update mine to Pie but can't find any official files to do so. Anyways ill figure it out, it's just that my moms pixel 2 just broke and we don't have the money to fix it just yet to im really trying to get my jeter ready for her because she needs the phone in order to work. But before all of this i was going to try and compile a custom kernel from scratch for the jeter, for use with the news Andrax Pentesting Framework so that I could finally experience airodump/wifite without external adapter. looks like its gonna have to wait. mom comes first. have a good night bro see ya around.:good:
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If you wanna think I'm a **** for being honest with you and forward instead of sugarcoating stuff then go ahead. You said your making a guide. I simply said make sure it's not a guide that already been made because so far we have 5 threads about gsi's and other useless threads that have kinda cluttered this forum and or stuff that my guide covers because once again. There is already enough clutter on the forum. https://forum.xda-developers.com/g6-play/development/ota-moto-g6-play-aljeter-t3921877. To answer your question after being a called a **** that's what your looking for. You have to be on the January security patch to even take/flash it. If you took an Oreo update after the January 1st security patch which I do believe is February 1st for oreo you are out of luck on getting pie until the stock firmware is uploaded on mirrors.
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You're being a ****, ****.
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This unacceptable conduct for XDA. This community is very open to free speech, but personal attacks are not welcome, allowed, or tolerated. I'm not going to report it because the mods have enough work as it is. However, I am going to take the time to educate you on XDA's rules regarding language.
"2.1 Language: XDA is a worldwide community. As a result, what may be OK to say in your part of the world, may not be OK elsewhere. Please don't direct profanity, sexually explicit language or other offensive content toward Members or their work. Conversely, while reading posts from other members, remember that the word you find offensive may not be offensive to the writer. Tolerance is a two-way street." -- Emphasis, mine. Source: XDA Announcement.
Please be civil. That was uncalled for. The guy you were responding to was only trying to avoid more mass confusion, because we have too many guides already.