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hello ,I am thinking about buying moto g , but after lenovo bought motorola , i am afraid it will stop the support for motorola devices , is that true?
and will someone tell me about the call quality on the moto g? i heard it is bad
thanks
So far so good, Moto G is among the very first devices to receive KK 4.4.3
Lenovo isn't stupid, they know that much of Moto's appeal is fast updates. Cheap alone doesn't cut, there are 100s of cheap Chinese devices - but most of them never see updates.
For me, call quality is OK.
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So far so good
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Lenovo hasn't bought Motorola yet.
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Lenovo hasn't bought Motorola yet.
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Technicalities. For all practical purposes, yes they have.
As you can see in new launches, Moto E, Moto G 4G and the rumoured Moto X+1, all have MicroSD slots. No Nexus phone/tablet and original Moto G/X, all under Google, have the slot. Simply put, they want you to spend on Google Drive, and a MicroSD spoofs that.
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hrashdan said:
hello ,I am thinking about buying moto g , but after lenovo bought motorola , i am afraid it will stop the support for motorola devices , is that true?
and will someone tell me about the call quality on the moto g? i heard it is bad
thanks
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Summing up, Moto G is amazing. I bought for myself and my wife, and we are both loving it. The only downside, in my humble opinion, is the lack of a MicroSD slot.
Just be sure to buy the 16GB version, especially if you are into games/recording videos, as these will eat up space in no time.
When you put it like that, Lenovo buying Motorola isn't such a bad thing. Lenovo laptops(especially the ThinkPad line) are very good too. I still remember how the CEO Yang Yuanqing took his annual bonus and gave it to his workers. I am sad by this shift in owners because I really was hoping for more phones to be made(assembled) in the US for the jobs. Having written that, the US market has spoken when it came to the Moto X so here I am with my Moto X, knowing this phone is probably the last of its kind because the US market values the price and specs more than the experience and where it came from.
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Technicalities. For all practical purposes, yes they have.
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That is strange as they are still being managed by Google. Lenovo has no control or influence over Motorola at this point.
alpha-niner64 said:
When you put it like that, Lenovo buying Motorola isn't such a bad thing. Lenovo laptops(especially the ThinkPad line) are very good too. I still remember how the CEO Yang Yuanqing took his annual bonus and gave it to his workers. I am sad by this shift in owners because I really was hoping for more phones to be made(assembled) in the US for the jobs. Having written that, the US market has spoken when it came to the Moto X so here I am with my Moto X, knowing this phone is probably the last of its kind because the US market values the price and specs more than the experience and where it came from.
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Consumers seem to value price, specs, and most importantly brand. The only reason people buy Samsung phones is because, oh, Samsung! It's a popular brand!
It kinda sucks.
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Consumers seem to value price, specs, and most importantly brand. The only reason people buy Samsung phones is because, oh, Samsung! It's a popular brand!
It kinda sucks.
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I would qualify this as something more than just popular brand. I'd make your argument for Apple products though! With Samsung, I can list some qualitative features that distinguish Samsung from the rest: AMOLED, removable battery, microSD, no on-screen buttons, plastic build-quality?? I've read enough peoples' opinions to know that they want to move away from Samsung, but can't because no other brand offers what Samsung offers.
I hope that Motorola will move backward to the days of microSD and removable batteries(doubtful).
MicroSD is already back.
Brand is not exactly what most people want. They want bang per buck, usually. Sure, some people with cash to spare buy due to the brand.
As you mentioned, some Samssung features are hard to find in others. But most Android phones now have on screen buttons. So, how to be the best in class when most fellas are basically the same? Price.
Price alone won't cut in some cases - smartphones, for example. 1st time smartphone buyers may be seduced by dirt cheap, but after a while some other things become priorities. That's when you want the most bang per buck. And that's where the Moto G excels.
Great price for the specs, especially screen. Camera is not top of the line but will do for the majority of people, casual shooters. SoC not top of the line but very good for the average user. Battery is decent, telephony is OK. So, you have a very decent phone at a very good price. Add to that blazing fast updates, and you have a winner. For the majority of people, the phone is more than enough. Phones with simmilar SoC/RAM/internal storage are a lot costlier. Let alone the 720p screen, which even costlier rivals lack.
Sure, the removable battery is nice to have, as are wireless charging and NFC, but not mandatory. What really annoys me is the lack of MicroSD. You have to backup stuff often. Google will be happy if you use Drive for that, but in Brazil prices for mobile data are too high, and even landline internet is not that fast, so many people, including me, use the USB cable for that.
I'm not worried
hrashdan said:
hello ,I am thinking about buying moto g , but after lenovo bought motorola , i am afraid it will stop the support for motorola devices , is that true?
and will someone tell me about the call quality on the moto g? i heard it is bad
thanks
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I owned several thinkpads, both before and after Lenovo bought the brand from IBM. While I would say the quality and available technology had become more mainstream over the years, the high-quality service that was provided by IBM always remained. I had a motherboard replaced on my T400 when it was a month old. That was I believe the 3rd generation of Lenovo product.
I just replaced my old Motorola V60 phone on my voice-only line with a Moto G, partially because it will be one of the last pre-Lenovo phones and because my old phone was dying, but I have no worry that the phone will be supported at least as well as other brands mid-level phones and probably better than most.
Now, if Lenovo would just bring back quality slider phones under the Motorola name, I might be able to give up my blackberry as well.
thank you all , couldn't get better answers than these
Lenovo is a fairly new company compared to Moto But its already Number One in PCs and Number 3 in smart phones.... Lenovo is known for paying the highest salaries in the industry in China
Lenovo knows how to turn money bleeding companies into profit making ones in No time
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Lenovo is a fairly new company compared to Moto But its already Number One in PCs and Number 3 in smart phones.... Lenovo is known for paying the highest salaries in the industry in China
Lenovo knows how to turn money bleeding companies into profit making ones in No time
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Yep, I also have a Lenovo laptop, and I gotta say, the hardware build quality is incredible for the price (2 years later, battery still lasts 3 hours like when I first got it). The software made by Lenovo looks ancient, but works really efficient and has 0 impact on cpu and ram (by 0, I don't mean 0.01 or 0.1, I mean 0, ZERO)
I really hope to see the same quality on the mobile devices (well, this is exactly the description of the moto g stock rom)
Sorry for bumping the thread, just wanted to say this. [emoji85]
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Hello, i just wanted bring all of you together to read this thread. Ok so i know since you've been a Moto owner, you've heard or seen at least once insulting comment about your device or the Motorola company. For example, "Anything that Motorola makes sucks" "People only get them because they're cheap" "That phone is crappy". I know that those people are ignorant to other people's liking. I'm tired of hearing the same thing. A lot of people that own super expensive high end- flashy smartphones say things like that about devices like the Moto series. Well that really offends me, just because they might not be the most high-end smartphones or the most expensive smartphones doesn't mean they are worthless. We Moto owners take great pride in our device, we appreciate what we have and we value our smartphones.
If someone offered me a brand new Galaxy S6 and a brand new Moto X and said i could only pick one. I would pick the Moto X hands down without a doubt in my mind. Because I know, We know what matters in a smartphone. What is that? User experience and performance for the price. That's what a review comes down to at the end of the day. A company could make a super spec'd out smartphone but get the same review score as a phone a fraction of its cost. I know if i were to buy a $1000 smartphone it better be great in every aspect and i know if i bought a smartphone for half that price, i'm not expecting it to be perfect but i want to have a good performance. That's exactly what motorola does, it gives you a great performing phone for the price.
For example, the Moto G. It has a low price point but does everything you need it to do. If I want a super powerful gaming machine of a smartphone, I'm not going to buy the Moto G. Then give a bad review for not being able to do what i wanted it to. I'm gonna buy a smartphone with a powerful chipset. At the end of the day we Moto owners stand out. Other people don't seem to understand our taste in smartphones value. Im not saying if you own a super expensive phone you're a bad person or anything. I'm just saying you get what you pay for. All of you Moto owners, good job in picking a smartphone. It doesn't matter if you have a Moto E, a Moto G or a Moto X. We all are equal and unified. #Teammoto
Proof that price doesn't matter
I Roughly agree with you. But the thing about the Moto X (Which i like very much, hopy one day i will get one) and the Galaxy S6 is not true. Obviously you didn't tried the S6. I tried the Moto X too and I must say the S6 is better than the Moto X. Moto X is a very nice phone, but you just can't compare with the flagship device from 2015 worth 800 euros (or whatever the price is now).
It will be more appropriate to compare with the S5 because both of these devices are from 2014. Here you can say that the Moto X is the absolute winner. The S5 is a laggy piece of sh-t compared to S6 which is very smooth and sophisticated. You can even find videos on youtube comparing S5 with the Moto G and in most cases the Moto G is faster than the S5 lol.
Don't forget DROID Turbo from 2014
My uncle right now has the G5 and he says he hates it. he likes my phone alot but i said to him there are others that are newer and probably better (not to say i wouldnt tell him to buy the moto x pure, but that he has alot of options with gsm compared to sprint). He has Tmobile for now so i guess any GSM that is closest to the moto x and unlocked. what would you recommend and why?
he said specifically he likes my phone because of the feel of the phone, the lightness and the speedy os.
personally i dont like recommending him things like Huawei or ZTE because im suspicious of chinese made phones but i want to hear what you have to say
ZTE Axon 7 is a pretty solid device... I wouldn't hesitate to recommend one of those, or the Axon 7 Mini as a replacement for the Moto G series devices.
Another good choice would be the OnePlus 3T.
Most other devices by Samsung and LG are too bloated and skinned to heavily for my taste, I hesitate to recommend them.
I really like the HTC 10, goes back to my first real Android "love", but it's a bit pricey. The Google Pixel line is great, but again they are pricey and sometimes tough to find in stock.
Remember that retailers like Best Buy and B&H Photo still carry the Moto X Pure in stock for $299-$349.
Mobile world congress is literally in a few days (Feb 27). See what is available after that. Personally I'm looking forward to the Moto G5 (an upgrade to the Moto G4 which is also a great phone) which I will probably purchase for my wife. The Moto G5 plus is supposed to have a Sony IMX362 camera sensor which is really great, battery-sipping Snapdragon 625, and a 5.2" screen (my wife doesn't like big screens) so I think it'll be awesome. Plus it's Motorola so it'll have little to no bloat.
Honestly I'm surprised that your uncle hates the LG G5, it's a flagship after all with a snapdragon 820 and 4GB ram it should be pretty snappy. At least comparable to the Moto X Pure. He should just keep his phone, maybe wipe it and start fresh or try a new ROM if possible.
Also, hate to break it to you, Motorola is owned by Lenovo which is Chinese. I think Apple Samsung and LG are the only non-Chinese smartphones left.
I thought the latest rumors were the G5 would have the 5.2" screen and the G5 Plus is a 5.5".
Personally, after seeing how Lenovo treats updates/upgrades on my Moto G 2015 and X Pure over the last year, I will likely not buy another Moto device... Really it's a Lenovo device with the Moto name on it (Lenovo has confirmed ALL their smartphones will soon be carrying the Moto name). I am sure the G5 will be a decent device, but Lenovo has ruined it for me. Especially since I see my son's Axon 7 Mini gets regular security updates every single month only a week or two old.
@acejavelin Honestly the problem is Lenovo just doesn't care about the phones that were already in production before they purchased Motorola. Their newer phones that have launched since the merger ( Moto g4, Moto z) have had excellent support. Yes I'm a bit upset about the lack of support too but that's just how life goes sometimes. Have you tried lineageOS yet? I'm running the latest nightly and it's fantastic. Android 7.1.1, extremely fast, everything works well, 3+ hours SOT (up from 2.5 on stock marshmallow). lineageOS also comes unrooted so you can still use apps that don't like root (like pokemon Go).
As far as the G5 rumors, the latest rumors are 5.0" screen for the G5 and 5.2" screen for the G5 plus. Both full HD. Snapdragon 430 for the G5 and 625 for the G5 plus.
I actually went with the Axon 7. It's a really solid device. Runs really smooth good battery life. Very inexpensive compared to other flagship devices. The only thing I don't like about it, is that its not technically supported by Verizon. It's a nightmare to try to change anything with them.
Found this deal on zukfans.eu
https://zukfans.eu/community/threads/zuk-z2-coupons.1403/page-2#post-35034
How low the prices can go down for those Smapdragon 820 4GB Ram/64GB Rom devices? even MTK devices are more expensive(coughing... Redmi... coughing ):silly:
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Found this deal on zukfans.eu
https://zukfans.eu/community/threads/zuk-z2-coupons.1403/page-2#post-35034
How low the prices can go down for those Smapdragon 820 4GB Ram/64GB Rom devices? even MTK devices are more expensive(coughing... Redmi... coughing ):silly:
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The offer is from banggood. I have never bought in that site. Is it safe? Do they offer some sort of warranty?
I am tempted once again to buy one as it's ~3000 MXN (~150USD) and my LG G3 is giving up on me.
thanks for any/all advice
http://www.resellerratings.com/store/BangGood
Yes they are safe, U can pay by PayPal and have 1 year warranty.
I ordered many times from them.
Just ordered 2 for my wife and I, thanks op. We live in Colombia and are using Le Pro 3 and the Le S2 but it seems like there is more rom support for this phone.
Alas, I Just ordered A white ZUK z2 a few hours ago from the site..
Now I will have to wait (hopefully not eternally) for it to arrive, so I can see if it is worth the money.
In the meantime I managed to get a hold of my previous moto X (1st gen) as a backup phone while I Fix my LG G3 (I think the battery is dead)
Anyways, if the z2 is as good as I've read, I will be selling my G3, and maaaybe my moto x (probably will get nothing for it so I might keep as backup)
Wish me luck :fingerscrossed:
Need that band 12 action
Got mine from banggood a few days ago.
Damn this is a good phone. Wish camera was better but cannot complain for the price.
Flashed the Indian rom, it OTA'd up to the .133 version right after
I Just paid $166 for the Lenovo ZUK Z2 4GB/64GB over at DX.COM. They applied an extra discount at checkout! I have been looking for another android phone after not loving the Leeco Max 2 which I am selling on ebay to UK buyers only. I think the ZUK Z2 looks like an interesting phone with a big developer community.
Regards Andrew
I am currently moto g2 user. and since using moto phones I can't buy any other phone but moto. as my budget is very low. So, i was thinking to buy moto g4+ that suits my budget. so should i go for it?
Plabon7 said:
I am currently moto g2 user. and since using moto phones I can't buy any other phone but moto. as my budget is very low. So, i was thinking to buy moto g4+ that suits my budget. so should i go for it?
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Umm I Have Both Moto G3 and G4 Plus ( Die Hard Moto Fanboy Had a G2 Too ) I Feel Moto is Losing There Unique Design Language That Made It Standout from Chinese Brands and Also G4+ Has A Lot on Heating Issues ( Worse than It Sounds ) and Depending on What Type Of Phone You Get (its a Lottery) You are Gonna Face Burn-in or Ghost Touch Issues So If You Are Into Custom ROMs Than I Would Suggest Buy G3 Instead Of G4+ Its Not Worth It Development Is Equally Good if Not Better and If You Do End Up Buying a G4+ Make Sure to Protect That Camera Lens Gets Scratched Up Too Easily
Otherwise Miso (RN4) Does Exists
Plabon7 said:
I am currently moto g2 user. and since using moto phones I can't buy any other phone but moto. as my budget is very low. So, i was thinking to buy moto g4+ that suits my budget. so should i go for it?
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imo, if you can help it, stay away from Motorola. They've been really shoddy about updates for all their phones, including the G4. There have also been issues regarding ghost touches/screen failures, but nearly every phone has its share of issues and the G4 is not unique in this regard.
If you plan to root/ROM your phone, the G4 is not a bad choice as there are a variety of ROMs to choose from, as well as decent support.
Even if you do purchase a G4+, don't spend more than $200 USD on it. Any more than $200, and you can get vastly better phones such as the Nexus 5X, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3/4, and the Huawei Honor 6X.
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imo, if you can help it, stay away from Motorola. They've been really shoddy about updates for all their phones, including the G4. There have also been issues regarding ghost touches/screen failures, but nearly every phone has its share of issues and the G4 is not unique in this regard.
If you plan to root/ROM your phone, the G4 is not a bad choice as there are a variety of ROMs to choose from, as well as decent support.
Even if you do purchase a G4+, don't spend more than $200 USD on it. Any more than $200, and you can get vastly better phones such as the Nexus 5X, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3/4, and the Huawei Honor 6X.
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thanks for your valuable remarks
electronode said:
Umm I Have Both Moto G3 and G4 Plus ( Die Hard Moto Fanboy Had a G2 Too ) I Feel Moto is Losing There Unique Design Language That Made It Standout from Chinese Brands and Also G4+ Has A Lot on Heating Issues ( Worse than It Sounds ) and Depending on What Type Of Phone You Get (its a Lottery) You are Gonna Face Burn-in or Ghost Touch Issues So If You Are Into Custom ROMs Than I Would Suggest Buy G3 Instead Of G4+ Its Not Worth It Development Is Equally Good if Not Better and If You Do End Up Buying a G4+ Make Sure to Protect That Camera Lens Gets Scratched Up Too Easily
Otherwise Miso (RN4) Does Exists
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thanks for you vast info. i was really unknown to those issues. thanks again. i'll go for nexus 5x then.
Plabon7 said:
thanks for you vast info. i was really unknown to those issues. thanks again. i'll go for nexus 5x then.
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Well, don't forget that the Nexus 5X also has the bootloop issue.
If you want to root and ROM, I heartily recommend the 2015 X/X Pure if you can afford it. Or the OnePlus 2.
But, if you're going to stay on stock, get a Nokia 6 (or whatever other phones they have). Stock Android with super fast updates.
My previous phone was an iPhone 4. I am very happy with my G4+ and they can be had for a $200 for the 64GB model. There are many well supported ROMs to choose from. Most OEM update support sucks...a friend of mine dropped $700 on his Galaxy S7 and is in 7.0 with the February security patch. Due to fantastic developer (thank you OAdam11 for Tesla) support, I am running 7.1.2 with the May 5 security update. I would recommend it.
Redmi note 4x(Snapdragon ) except bootloader unlocking is difficult to somebody ( not for me), definitely better than g4plus.I had both ,but as per development and MIUI , Redmi note 4x is my choice for your budget.
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Redmi note 4x(Snapdragon ) except bootloader unlocking is difficult to somebody ( not for me), definitely better than g4plus.I had both ,but as per development and MIUI , Redmi note 4x is my choice for your budget.
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but as far as i know note 4x does not have a good camera.
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My previous phone was an iPhone 4. I am very happy with my G4+ and they can be had for a $200 for the 64GB model. There are many well supported ROMs to choose from. Most OEM update support sucks...a friend of mine dropped $700 on his Galaxy S7 and is in 7.0 with the February security patch. Due to fantastic developer (thank you OAdam11 for Tesla) support, I am running 7.1.2 with the May 5 security update. I would recommend it.
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heating issue?
I have had no issues with excessive heating or screen burn in personally.
Plabon7 said:
I am currently moto g2 user. and since using moto phones I can't buy any other phone but moto. as my budget is very low. So, i was thinking to buy moto g4+ that suits my budget. so should i go for it?
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I bought a second hand one for gps use last month and ended up using it as my primary device. I also have a Moto x play and kumia (pointless). I bought it for 140usd - 9000inr. The back camera lens is scratched a bit but there is no other issue. Photos are clear though. The phone is very nice and it doesn't heat up for me as many people say. Gets fully charged in 1.25 hours. I don't play games so for other use it works awesome.
It is way better than Moto x play which I bought when it released. The camera is good. That can be also an option for you . Or, you can go for Nexus 5x. Price dropped and you can also find a second sale phone for less than 150. If you are so Keen about the quality buy a scratched phone for low price, replace the case housing. It's new.
I have a lumia 640xl which I refurbished under 100usd. It still works charm..
Go for it mate...
I know it's been several months since someone posted something here, but I'm curious to know your opinion on this...
I have just purchased an used Moto G4 Plus XT1644 4GB + 64GB yesterday at B&H Photo in excellent condition (10 out of 10), at least that's how they described it, for $138.50 shipped. It's arriving on Thursday.
I was not aware of its many issues like, heating issues, screen burn in / ghost touches and so on... So now I'm kinda worried about my decision...
My wife had an iPhone 6 and I converted her to a Moto G5 Plus about 3 to 4 months ago. She's very happy with the phone.
I only went with the G4 Plus because of the extra RAM, plenty storage space, external SD card reader and larger screen compared to the G5 Plus (*for the price I paid*). Most importantly, I bought the G4 Plus because it has ElementalX kernel, official Lineage OS support and TWRP as well. The combination of these three kept my Nexus 5 going for 3+ years before it gave up on me a few months ago.
My N5 still works but it randomly shuts down and reboots when using demanding tasks like taking photos or when it heats up. As long as I can keep it frozen (out of the freezer - literally) it works just fine though.
I've been using a crappy $60 Amazon Prime Exclusive phone, the Blu R1 HD on stock Marshmallow + Magisk / Xposed / Gravity Box / N-ify. Performance is fine considering what I paid for it. Thanks to the infamous fire.apk that plagued the R1 HD for months, I managed to get a full refund for that phone today. So I've got a free phone with malware basically.
I really wanted a 5.5" to 6" phone with good dev support on the cheap but as you know, both the G5 Plus / G5S Plus have a smaller 5.2" and very little dev support (compared to the G4 Plus) and they cost quite a bit more.
So I went with lower price, better dev support and slightly bigger screen on the G4 Plus.
What do you guys think?