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Amazing headphones

So had the s3 for a few days now but only tried the headphones a few hours ago and I gotta say I'm amazed at the quality. It has very nice bass, which I've never had in regular headphones before. I've always had the cheap 5-10 dollar headphones and I never knew how good they could be. And these come with the phone!
I was playing league of legends with them and sound effects sounded amazing. I'm guessing that's why people buy dre beats? Except this isn't overpriced, paying for the brand, headphones.

Yup, easily the best in box pair I've used...ever I think.
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I actually thought they sound worse than the ones that came with my original galaxy s, and a LOT worse than the high end UE's I normally use. They're still decent for a bundled accessory, but they're nothing to call home about. Just my two cents.

I don't like them at all

Ones that came with my Captivate were really good and used them up until a month ago when they walked off from my desk. Now I've got some Klipsch s4a buds and am highly impressed. Picked them up for $60 from Sonic Electronix, which was about $30 less than everywhere else.
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If you want some really good headphones on the cheap, you can't beat these for the price:
http://www.amazon.com/MEElectronics...&qid=1340712998&sr=1-9&keywords=meelectronics
And this is coming from someone who also has these:
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AHD2000...F8&qid=1340713391&sr=1-1&keywords=denon+d2000

I know these are going to be a bit pricey, but trust me its worth it. (ive tried other ones in the same price range , these are the best that deliver in every category)
Delivers bass (but not to the point where it drowns out the music), delivers sound quality and clarity like you havent heard before (but you can hear every other element in the back and still have bass)
it hurts to listen to music with anything else
Ive owned the previous version of these (530), and since 2008 ive only been pleased.
Currently i have the 535 (latest version)
http://www.shure.com/americas/produ...nes/se-models/se535-sound-isolating-earphones
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/25/shure-se535-review/
http://reviews.cnet.com/headphones/shure-se535-metallic-bronze/4505-7877_7-34168053.html
enjoy
i need to try them out on the s3

doctorTJ said:
I know these are going to be a bit pricey, but trust me its worth it. (ive tried other ones in the same price range , these are the best that deliver in every category)
Delivers bass (but not to the point where it drowns out the music), delivers sound quality and clarity like you havent heard before (but you can hear every other element in the back and still have bass)
it hurts to listen to music with anything else
Ive owned the previous version of these (530), and since 2008 ive only been pleased.
Currently i have the 535 (latest version)
http://www.shure.com/americas/produ...nes/se-models/se535-sound-isolating-earphones
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/25/shure-se535-review/
http://reviews.cnet.com/headphones/shure-se535-metallic-bronze/4505-7877_7-34168053.html
enjoy
i need to try them out on the s3
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those are ridiculously priced! 449.00 off of amazon geez

bkeaver said:
those are ridiculously priced! 449.00 off of amazon geez
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i knowwww, but ive tried using even the 100 dollar bose ones, and the 100 dollar shure ones.
regardless none deliver like this one.
the way i looked at it was : im always listening to music, always at my desk, always using headphones. Why not get something that will MAKE me want to actually sit and do work and enjoy it. And plus whats the point of paying 50 dollars every couple of months cuz the headphones broke? These have a warranty and every year i send them back and get new ones and that warranty gets extended.
its worth it.

junglizste said:
If you want some really good headphones on the cheap, you can't beat these for the price:
http://www.amazon.com/MEElectronics...&qid=1340712998&sr=1-9&keywords=meelectronics
And this is coming from someone who also has these:
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AHD2000...F8&qid=1340713391&sr=1-1&keywords=denon+d2000
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Are you a meelectronics user yourself? Nice! I am too, but I have the M6P's with the built in phone controls. I have yet to find a pair of IEM's that cost twice as much as these that can compare, certainly nothing at this price point or below.
http://www.amazon.com/MEElectronics...hones-Smartphones/dp/B003VTZPO8/ref=pd_cp_e_0
And the eartips can be swapped out for the "marshmallow" type, Comply T-400's, commonly found on JVC Marshmallow IEM's.

doctorTJ said:
I know these are going to be a bit pricey, but trust me its worth it. (ive tried other ones in the same price range , these are the best that deliver in every category)
Delivers bass (but not to the point where it drowns out the music), delivers sound quality and clarity like you havent heard before (but you can hear every other element in the back and still have bass)
it hurts to listen to music with anything else
Ive owned the previous version of these (530), and since 2008 ive only been pleased.
Currently i have the 535 (latest version)
http://www.shure.com/americas/produ...nes/se-models/se535-sound-isolating-earphones
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/25/shure-se535-review/
http://reviews.cnet.com/headphones/shure-se535-metallic-bronze/4505-7877_7-34168053.html
enjoy
i need to try them out on the s3
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If we're going to toss in some high end IEM's, I'll throw mine in the circle as well.
http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-IE80-Headphone/dp/B006EK9J9S/ref=pd_cp_e_1
If you like hip-hop, trance, or anything that needs a good quantity of solid bass. These are it.
If you like really wide soundstages. This is also it.
It has a screw on each monitor you can turn for more or less bass as well.
As the Head-fi saying goes, sorry for your wallet if you decide to get either, but your ears won't be sorry.

LOL, this is gonna sound dumb but, I bought some ear buds from Big Lots the other day for 5 dollars. They were impressive. As long as I don't try on a good pair to compare, I'll be good.
That said, the GS3 comes with a pair right?

Maverick777 said:
If we're going to toss in some high end IEM's, I'll throw mine in the circle as well.
http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-IE80-Headphone/dp/B006EK9J9S/ref=pd_cp_e_1
If you like hip-hop, trance, or anything that needs a good quantity of solid bass. These are it.
If you like really wide soundstages. This is also it.
It has a screw on each monitor you can turn for more or less bass as well.
As the Head-fi saying goes, sorry for your wallet if you decide to get either, but your ears won't be sorry.
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perfect way to say it (headfi)
i had these , and as you said, for bass intense it will be these, i ultimately still ended up keeping my shures, felt they were a little clearer
but u cant go wrong either way. :good:

I can't wear in-ear phones for more than half hour.
How can you guys do that?
I use Audeo PFE.

My go-to earbuds for a couple of years now have been the Razer M100, now called the Moray:
http://www.amazon.com/Razer-In-Ear-...hones--Black/dp/B001HN6PBM/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8
They show up on Woot every once in a while for $15 a pair and I get 3 and give a pair or two to friends and family. I've tried a lot of earbuds over the years, and even at $30-40, these are about the best-sounding ones I've found. They isolate outside noise well, have really good bass response, clear sound overall, and the small size makes them easy to wear without them getting knocked loose.
Definitely worth checking out if you're shopping in that price range.

nabbed said:
I can't wear in-ear phones for more than half hour.
How can you guys do that?
I use Audeo PFE.
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Its all about the eartips! Comply T-400's FTW!
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916x10 said:
Its all about the eartips! Comply T-400's FTW!
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+1 for Comply. Have them on my Super-fi 5 Pro's. Very comfortable but you have to change them out every now and then when they get too dirty.
On my IE8 I'm using Sony Hybrid Tips.
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-EPEX10A-BLK-Replacement-Earbuds/dp/B001RB24UA
They are very comfortable.

incubus26jc said:
LOL, this is gonna sound dumb but, I bought some ear buds from Big Lots the other day for 5 dollars. They were impressive. As long as I don't try on a good pair to compare, I'll be good.
That said, the GS3 comes with a pair right?
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yes, they some with some and from what I have experienced, they aren't too bad. i mean if you are just using them to work out or study like me then they are good. Also, i just got these below and i love them and they're not too expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/MEElectronics...hones-Smartphones/dp/B003VTZPO8/ref=pd_cp_e_0

ge3kswag said:
Also, i just got these below and i love them and they're not too expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/MEElectronics...hones-Smartphones/dp/B003VTZPO8/ref=pd_cp_e_0
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Yeah, those are nice. I love mine
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At my desk, I'm still using an old pair of Sennheiser HD590's open-ears through a Fiio headphone amp. For non-amped in-ears I've switched from my broken Shure's (which sounded amazing) to the still-highly rated Klipsch IMAGE S4's.
The Klipsch's sound really good, but they do have just a tad too much bass, but at least they're no where near the huge amount of bass that BeatsByDre gimmicky crap imposes.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Honor 6X, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Honor 6X is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I like it, especially for the price

could have had a larger battery but not too bad

The battery is kinda huge for such a device

I just love this mobile phone

Better than honor 5x

I like the design at back.

Amazing price, outstanding battery. Good Camera, and it's got a finger print sensor. Additionally awesome ROM support on the XDA Forum.
I picked this phone up for my mother, and shes starting to like it as well. Especially the finger print sensor because its easy to unlock while traveling.

jkccl9 said:
could have had a larger battery but not too bad
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Are you serious!

Paulx10 said:
Are you serious!
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He's not. He doesn't even own one.
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My primary phone since December for a reason.. loved it. Camera, battery and design

I really love this. Might be my dailt driver for the next 2 years.

really love this device..

I just picked up this phone as my LG G4 is starting to act flaky. I'm really impressed that it has the things I've needed to root for in the past. Screenshots and wifi hot spot are the first that come to mind. The camera isn't as good as the G4 (colors seem washed out on auto) but it does have manual mode, which is a big plus. And of course the price is right.

terryowen said:
I just picked up this phone as my LG G4 is starting to act flaky. I'm really impressed that it has the things I've needed to root for in the past. Screenshots and wifi hot spot are the first that come to mind. The camera isn't as good as the G4 (colors seem washed out on auto) but it does have manual mode, which is a big plus. And of course the price is right.
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What do you mean by acting flaky?

For the price (US$195) this phone offers amazing performance and storage capacity. In my opinion there is only one downside to this phone and that is the headphone output/volume, it is absolutely horrible and hands down the worst of any phone I have ever seen and used.
I was so impressed by the specs listed when I saw the phone on Amazon that I immediately came on here and read the reviews and bought it. I never thought to research the headphone volume honestly because low output is something Ive never experienced. Sure, some phones are louder than others but the maximum volume on this phone is pathetic....even with the volume on maximum the sound is drowned out by background noise whenever I am not in a quiet room. You can root your phone and then stack multiple sound fx apps to get a little more volume, but even with everything cranked to max gain the 3.5mm jack is so under powered that when there is any bass the highs cut out because the voltage is so low it cannot even drive the headphones.
I spend more time listening to music on my phone than anything else, so to have such low volume is a major disappointment. I would love to keep this phone because everything else about it is so smooth but I love hearing my music and not background noise. Honor knows about this due to plenty of community posts on their own forums regarding the issue going back a year or more but does nothing. In all honesty I will never purchase another Huawei/Honor phone because of this and am giving this phone to my sister and purchasing a OnePlus 5T after less than a month of ownership.

Just got mine last night and so far im loving it! Runs super smooth freedompop also works on it after you put the settings in, Also it games great which i tried a game called crusader of light and it runs pretty smooth even on the highest settings which it does have little stutter sometimes very rare tho but pretty sure its just the server lag. My htc droid dna was pretty much always low on fps on that game even on the lowest settings... Game is hard too run tho.
Battery is so far great i got the phone around 5pm and mostly been gaming on it and its 6:22 am now and still has 30% lol..
And yep i tested the headphones which what dazed said and they are a bit on the low side compare too other phones like my htc droid dna but its really not that bad but can be bad with people that like there music playing loud. I say its about 15 too 20% lower than my dna which does have a good sound chip in it which was pretty known in the dna.
I tried my headphones in Bluetooth mode which are zinsoko z-h01s and its louder lol
There is a fix well kinda. You can just get one of those mini clip amps which will make it alot louder if you dont mind carrying a small clip amp around with it. Going too see how it is when i find mine.
And just one small issue which i don't like much is the speaker grill which can be easy fully blocked when holding it in landscape lol.
But other than that 2 issues a great device and well worth the money i paid which was 150$!

I agree the headphone volume is way too low, even with BeyerDynamics $200 headphones, its not loud enough.
And I just cant understand it. I even installed Viper4Android and its still not as loud at my Moto G4 Play which was a $40 phone.
Absolutely pathetic that even with Root this god-damned phone is so locked down by Emui that I cant even change the date that my cell phone data resets.
I am finally motivated to install a custom Rom, I cant live with this low volume. Its senseless to have such a nice camera paired with such garbage DAC , its like wearing a Tuxedo with a pair of disgusting old sneakers

While this isn't my favorite phone from Honor, it was one of the only Honor phones released with a snapdragon chipset. For that, it gets some points, but overall not a great phone.

Should I get the Z force?

I am currently on T-mobile with an s edge+, I am pretty much tired of everything about thos phone and T-mobile. Im probably going to verizon very soon. Would the Z force be a good phone to get at this point or try to tough it out till a better phone releases?

aside from the lack of root, lack of 3.5mm headphone jack (WTF?), and the lack of decent front-facing stereo speakers (largely offset by the availability of the JBL MotoMod however), this is hands down the best phone I've owned.
Battery life is amazing, and it charges incredibly fast as well. Total game changer. Camera is decent although not spectacular. Screen is great. CPU is fast. MicroSD means I never run out of storage.

sn00gan said:
aside from the lack of root, lack of 3.5mm headphone jack (WTF?), and the lack of decent front-facing stereo speakers (largely offset by the availability of the JBL MotoMod however), this is hands down the best phone I've owned.
Battery life is amazing, and it charges incredibly fast as well. Total game changer. Camera is decent although not spectacular. Screen is great. CPU is fast. MicroSD means I never run out of storage.
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I second all of this, although I have headphones with a removeable audio cord so my adapter stays in the cord and I use it for any aux input in vehicles...the jbl mod is great for music and speakerphone. Root doesnt affect me...seems most want it for the mobile hotspot. I had the phone since day one in verizon prepaid and the hotspot is active without any sim card tricks. If you can afford the phone upfront I suggest prepaid, look into the cost savings over a two year period. When I did it for my useage and the plans available at the time it was almost $1200 cheaper and all I lacked was hd voice video and wifi calling which has since been rolled out to prepaid customers

hmm i didnt notice the lack of headphone jack. im on the fence about this one.. i so rarely use the headphone jack that i doubt id miss it.

ArcaneDraco said:
hmm i didnt notice the lack of headphone jack. im on the fence about this one.. i so rarely use the headphone jack that i doubt id miss it.
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If you rarely use it chances are that means uou only have one thing you plug into it? It comes with an adapter that has a rubber strap that holds the cords together.

LeeMullinsII said:
If you rarely use it chances are that means uou only have one thing you plug into it? It comes with an adapter that has a rubber strap that holds the cords together.
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does it? nice, i have a pair of aftershokz wireless that i mainly use. this phone is the top of my list for the switch, it has all the stuff i want... nougat, vr capabilities, non curved screen. and it has the ability to connect stuff to it. i may very well have one by the end of the weekend. how rugged is this phone? if i accidentally drop it will it explode like my crappy s6 edge+ did?

ArcaneDraco said:
does it? nice, i have a pair of aftershokz wireless that i mainly use. this phone is the top of my list for the switch, it has all the stuff i want... nougat, vr capabilities, non curved screen. and it has the ability to connect stuff to it. i may very well have one by the end of the weekend. how rugged is this phone? if i accidentally drop it will it explode like my crappy s6 edge+ did?
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I wouldnt recommend drop testing it but I have dropped mine way more than Id like to admit...the edges get scratched up and the style shell falls off...the jbl mod does not as it has stronger magnets. Dropped it in tile concrete and asphalt and it is still going strong.

LeeMullinsII said:
I wouldnt recommend drop testing it but I have dropped mine way more than Id like to admit...the edges get scratched up and the style shell falls off...the jbl mod does not as it has stronger magnets. Dropped it in tile concrete and asphalt and it is still going strong.
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i dont plan on testing it that way, and i do plan on getting an otterbox defender until i do get some mods.

Z Force uses a layered polymer screen, not glass, so it's alleged to be shatter proof. In fact, if you manage to get a gouge on the screen but the rest of the phone is undamaged, Motorola believes in their product so much I've been told they'll send you a new phone for free (not willing to test this on my own phone, but I have it from a good source).
First responder said camera is not spectacular... Not sure what he would consider to be spectacular as it has a 21mp rear camera. Also one of the mods available will turn it basically into a high end digital camera. Also the first phone I've ever owned that has a front facing flash. Not that I'm a huge selfie buff, but if you are then that's a big plus.
All in all I'm loving this phone. It has a couple of quirks, like the lack of a photo gallery app like my GS6 had (have to go through the File Manager to get anything similar since I hate Google Photos), and I can't seem to use my Samsung Gear with it (although Samsung swears up and down it should work), but it seems to be worth the drawbacks in the 3 days I've had it.

korollyn9776 said:
Z Force uses a layered polymer screen, not glass, so it's alleged to be shatter proof. In fact, if you manage to get a gouge on the screen but the rest of the phone is undamaged, Motorola believes in their product so much I've been told they'll send you a new phone for free (not willing to test this on my own phone, but I have it from a good source).
First responder said camera is not spectacular... Not sure what he would consider to be spectacular as it has a 21mp rear camera. Also one of the mods available will turn it basically into a high end digital camera. Also the first phone I've ever owned that has a front facing flash. Not that I'm a huge selfie buff, but if you are then that's a big plus.
All in all I'm loving this phone. It has a couple of quirks, like the lack of a photo gallery app like my GS6 had (have to go through the File Manager to get anything similar since I hate Google Photos), and I can't seem to use my Samsung Gear with it (although Samsung swears up and down it should work), but it seems to be worth the drawbacks in the 3 days I've had it.
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wow that sounds great.. pretty much everything.. the gallery I can get around, I almost never use it anyway.
what gear do you have? if its the tizen bs os then probably not. i have the gear 2 neo floating around here somewhere.. found a mod to drop tizen and put wear on it. best the watch has worked since i got it.
Edit: just ordered mine, should be here tuesday!

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what gear do you have? if its the tizen bs os then probably not. i have the gear 2 neo floating around here somewhere.. found a mod to drop tizen and put wear on it. best the watch has worked since i got it.
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The Gear 2 Neo is, in fact, the one I have. I've always used it straight out of the box, worked great for me but that was with a phone designed for it. If you have an alternate option I'm definitely open to making it work with this phone!

https://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-2/development/please-help-kernel-compiling-android-t2992953
thats what i used.. worked great

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First responder said camera is not spectacular... Not sure what he would consider to be spectacular as it has a 21mp rear camera. Also one of the mods available will turn it basically into a high end digital camera.
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I actually work in the camera sensor industry (primarily infrared, but much is still applicable here). There is a lot more to image quality than megapixels. Image processing algorithms, sensor hardware features, optics, optics, and optics, all play a huge factor. Oh, and optics too. In fact, MP is such an obsolete measure of a camera's performance, I'd typically prefer a lower pixel count with a larger pixel size; all other factors being equal, a larger pixel will perform better in low light situations. Now, depending on the design, on large pixel count sensors, you can sometimes do tricks such as pixel aggregation, where you cluster multiple nearby pixels into one larger, virtual pixel, but often times in cell phones, that sort of image resizing is done in software after the fact, drastically reducing the benefits.
Now don't get me wrong, the Z Force camera has a lot of positives going for it. Ease of use, low shutter lag, good feature set (manual controls such as ISO, etc). Front & rear flashes do a decent job too (front flash is great for drunken selfies). But in general, the snapshot mode image quality still pales in comparison to my wife's iPhone 7+, which is simply amazing. In expert hands, with sufficient setup time, maybe this one is nearly as good, but the default point & shoot images are never as good.
I haven't used the Hasselblad Moto Mod, and while it does look pretty good, keep in mind that it isn't a true Hasselblad camera; they just licensed their name for it.
That being said, the built in camera is still very good, but it just isn't as good as some of the others.

sn00gan said:
I actually work in the camera sensor industry
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Cheater! You know too much!
Seriously though, thanks for clarifying that. I've always gone by whatever camera had higher numbers. My experience in photography was before the proliferation of digital and I never did much research into the translation from the film days. Glad to learn something new here... Although I will still never buy an iPhone until Apple does away with iTunes.
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Front & rear flashes do a decent job too (front flash is great for drunken selfies).
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I like the way you put that. In fact, I think that should be in their advertising. "Are you nuts about taking drunken selfies with your friends? Buy the Moto Z Force for the best drunken selfies you've ever taken!"

ArcaneDraco said:
wow that sounds great.. pretty much everything.. the gallery I can get around, I almost never use it anyway.
what gear do you have? if its the tizen bs os then probably not. i have the gear 2 neo floating around here somewhere.. found a mod to drop tizen and put wear on it. best the watch has worked since i got it.
Edit: just ordered mine, should be here tuesday!
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Gallery app was released in the forum some time ago... Not a big issue, but stupid on Moto removing it. I'm using QuickPic as a replacement, as the stock gallery would crash when installed as a userdata app for me.
As for the lack of 3.5mm, to be honest, as long as you have the adapter, you're fine. What kills me is I LOST my stock adapter, which was by far the best USB-C adapter around. Your only solutions are chinese adapters or to find someone on ebay/Amazon which charges close to 15$ US for the adapter... At least in Canada.
I agree with everything that was said here otherwise: The Z-Force is by far the best phone I've owned.

just got mine last night, and wow... such an amazing phone so far.

The moto z and z force are very underrated phones. Shame it isn't more popular/have more active dev community.

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robdevil said:
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I have it and love it, if you are going to say no please elaborate.

LeeMullinsII said:
I have it and love it, if you are going to say no please elaborate.
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I have it but I love my wife...still.
Not rootable. Verizon blocked VoLte and VoWifi for other networks. Phone is unlocked but mostly useless when I cant switch on Wifi call or HD call. I will hold it in drawer untill bootloader will become unlockable.
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You gotta love this phone

I've owned this great Nexus 6 since shortly after it was introduced. I've loved it since day 1. Lately I've been having problems with the USB connector. It was loose and the charging cable was constantly falling out. So I figured it was time to move on to a new phone. I hastily ordered a new Pixel 2 XL on Swappa without a second thought... it was was afterall the newest "Nexus".
I anticipated its arrival for a week. When it arrived I opened it up and did just a very minimal setup, just so I could see the settings. I was underwhelmed and immediately realized there was nothing about it that was better than the Nexus.
It had great specs, but nothing that was very exciting. It is said to have a spectacular camera, but that isn't a priority. I was thinking about unlocking the bootloader, flashing a rom and rooting. But I would end up with nothing better than the Nexus. So I did nothing but put it back in the box, list it on Swappa, sold it, and shipped it.
I found someone who said they would fix the USB connector, so I took it to his shop, he fixed it and I paid him $25 for his trouble even though he didn't charge me for a minute's work.
Even though the purchase and sale cost me some money, I am so pleased to have a renewed appreciation for my Nexus. There isn't a better phone on the market for me. I'm running Nitrogen 8.1 ROM and couldn't be happier.
The other man's grass is always greener.

I recently "upgraded" from my N6 to the OP5T 128GB version. My USB charge port is loose as well. I also have some screen burn starting from the bottom of the screen fading up. Mine pretty much needs a complete overall to make it like new again. I mainly use it for gaming. So, after some thorough research I chose the OP5T. I couldn't be more pleased with the OP5T. I did a minimal setup at first just like you did. I tested everything out first before customizing it. I then decided that I liked it enough to proceed with customization. Unlocked BL, rooted, running AICP 13.1 w/ EX Kernel. Dam this thing is lightning fast. Good camera. Excellent battery life. Excellent SOT. Still got to keep the 3.5mm jack. Quick charging with that Dash Charger. I do miss the front-facing speakers.

AS I 've said in many threads Phone makers have not made phone as good since
Over Priced and they always missing something
Headphone jacks Dual Speakers 2K Screen no NFC or Wireless changing
why just bought a new Battery Will run my another 2 years.

Bought it used in late 2017 and can't believe how much I missed out - terrific compared to devices I previously owned such as the mate 7 and note 4, direct ompetitors
Onknight said:
AS I 've said in many threads Phone makers have not made phone as good since
Over Priced and they always missing something
Headphone jacks Dual Speakers 2K Screen no NFC or Wireless changing
why just bought a new Battery Will run my another 2 years.
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2014 was the peak in terms of hardware enhancement for me, you had 1080p screens standardizing after 2013, emphasis on battery life from lots of manufacturers, much more efficient chipsets particularly the 801. Phablets started to become a bit more accessible after the note 3 monopoly. Stock android still had some official love with M8/S5 google play editions. I've traded a lot of phones for AOSP Roms but almost all 2013/2014, perfect combination of hardware and software
After that and the Iphone 6 the competition centered around niche devices emulating it. Additions that are so insignificant and obviously made to entice people away for the Iphone's juicy profit margin. The S9 is the saddest example of this. Its high time someone breaks through with a major innovative product like the N-series days and Iphone.

Agreed!
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I've owned this great Nexus 6 since shortly after it was introduced. I've loved it since day 1. Lately I've been having problems with the USB connector. It was loose and the charging cable was constantly falling out. So I figured it was time to move on to a new phone. I hastily ordered a new Pixel 2 XL on Swappa without a second thought... it was was afterall the newest "Nexus".
I anticipated its arrival for a week. When it arrived I opened it up and did just a very minimal setup, just so I could see the settings. I was underwhelmed and immediately realized there was nothing about it that was better than the Nexus.
It had great specs, but nothing that was very exciting. It is said to have a spectacular camera, but that isn't a priority. I was thinking about unlocking the bootloader, flashing a rom and rooting. But I would end up with nothing better than the Nexus. So I did nothing but put it back in the box, list it on Swappa, sold it, and shipped it.
I found someone who said they would fix the USB connector, so I took it to his shop, he fixed it and I paid him $25 for his trouble even though he didn't charge me for a minute's work.
Even though the purchase and sale cost me some money, I am so pleased to have a renewed appreciation for my Nexus. There isn't a better phone on the market for me. I'm running Nitrogen 8.1 ROM and couldn't be happier.
The other man's grass is always greener.
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I have Nexus 6 in mint condition I was facing some lag and general slow performance on stock Nougat 7.1. but then I installed Nitrogen OS Oreo 8.1 and boy it's fast!

Sorry, but the pixel 2 is miles better than the N6 performance wise. I only returned mine because it had GPS issues otherwise I never would have looked back. The pixel 1 however was only a minor upgrade.

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Sorry, but the pixel 2 is miles better than the N6 performance wise. I only returned mine because it had GPS issues otherwise I never would have looked back. The pixel 1 however was only a minor upgrade.
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Pixel suck here a few reasons why .
No headphone Jack Display Problems Burn-In Concerns 2-Year Warranty
Quality Control Issues at Factory and I could go on
What peace of crap for $1000 CND DOllars + tax
They made nothing better then Nexus 6 yes you lose some speed but the upgrade is not worth a $1000 CND
I like Nexus Program it showed people how phone could made well and not break the bank
The more bells and whistle the higher the Price and less Quality Control
No headphone jack I am sorry I like my headphone Jack
I'll keep this phone atleast 2 more years.

Nexus 6 was one phone done right. Even today it still looks pretty awesome.

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I found someone who said they would fix the USB connector, so I took it to his shop, he fixed it and I paid him $25 for his trouble even though he didn't charge me for a minute's work.
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You had a USB port replacement? Is that even possible? I know soldering is involved, but did you lose fast charging & usb otg capabilities? I'm just wondering. I have a bad usb port as well.
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I recently "upgraded" from my N6 to the OP5T 128GB version. My USB charge port is loose as well. I also have some screen burn starting from the bottom of the screen fading up. Mine pretty much needs a complete overall to make it like new again. I mainly use it for gaming. So, after some thorough research I chose the OP5T. I couldn't be more pleased with the OP5T. I did a minimal setup at first just like you did. I tested everything out first before customizing it. I then decided that I liked it enough to proceed with customization. Unlocked BL, rooted, running AICP 13.1 w/ EX Kernel. Dam this thing is lightning fast. Good camera. Excellent battery life. Excellent SOT. Still got to keep the 3.5mm jack. Quick charging with that Dash Charger. I do miss the front-facing speakers.
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Exactly what I'm thinking for upgrade. How do you compare the speakers though?

Just dug out my shamu and flashed the latest linage OS. Still love the phone. It was years ahead of its time! I have had every single Nexus and pixel since and while the camera is vastly improved as is battery life on the pixels, Little else is all that impressive over the good ole shamu. I will say however that my daily drivers are now OnePlus devices, had the 5, 5T and now the 6. Very impressed and like them a lot. Much better replacement choice for the shamu user.. At least if you don't have Verizon...

Kind of in the same dilemma as you guys, I have a Nexus 6 right now and am considering an upgrade when the Pixel 3's come out, I was considering the 3XL, or possibly the 3 but then gave some thought to going with the 2XL and saving a bunch of cash. The 3XL is looking to be at least $1,000 or around $43/month added to my Fi bill, while the 2XL will likely drop significantly in price, possibly around $400 or about $17/month.
My biggest issues with my N6 right now are battery life and the USB port has been problematic for a couple years but I have dealt with it, but it's getting to the point where's it's extremely difficult to get it to recognize the cable being plugged in. So, I got a wireless charger for the house and the car, I think because the curve of the phone they're both a little finicky but I think I have found the "sweet spot" in where to set the phone so they both work, so that helps a lot with the USB port issue. I could spend about $20 and replace the battery and it likely would be very worth it, might do it even if I upgrade the phone just to have a backup or one to play music off of in the garage.
My daily usage mostly consists of a little web browsing, playing music quite a bit,GPS when needed, couple of games when waiting for Dr appointments and stuff like that but not much otherwise. I don't take many pics, just some here and there and would like the speed to be better but for the amount I use it the camera isn't a big selling point to me. With that said what are your thoughts on just getting a new battery, upgrade to the 2XL or one of the 3's when they come out?

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Kind of in the same dilemma as you guys, I have a Nexus 6 right now and am considering an upgrade when the Pixel 3's come out, I was considering the 3XL, or possibly the 3 but then gave some thought to going with the 2XL and saving a bunch of cash. The 3XL is looking to be at least $1,000 or around $43/month added to my Fi bill, while the 2XL will likely drop significantly in price, possibly around $400 or about $17/month.
My biggest issues with my N6 right now are battery life and the USB port has been problematic for a couple years but I have dealt with it, but it's getting to the point where's it's extremely difficult to get it to recognize the cable being plugged in. So, I got a wireless charger for the house and the car, I think because the curve of the phone they're both a little finicky but I think I have found the "sweet spot" in where to set the phone so they both work, so that helps a lot with the USB port issue. I could spend about $20 and replace the battery and it likely would be very worth it, might do it even if I upgrade the phone just to have a backup or one to play music off of in the garage.
My daily usage mostly consists of a little web browsing, playing music quite a bit,GPS when needed, couple of games when waiting for Dr appointments and stuff like that but not much otherwise. I don't take many pics, just some here and there and would like the speed to be better but for the amount I use it the camera isn't a big selling point to me. With that said what are your thoughts on just getting a new battery, upgrade to the 2XL or one of the 3's when they come out?
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This is where I am at as well. Minus my USB seems to be working. I feel changing the battery would help me out as well. The more reading I do, the more apprehensive I am. I see reports of no change after battery change, or wireless charging no longer works, or cutting the power button cable. I just don't even want to deal with that. I also read that a user took his phone into a battery place and they broke his phone. Ended up giving him $250 for the device. So I am dealing with my Nexus 6. I am also debating on a Pixel XL 2. The Pixel 3 is way out of my price range.

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This is where I am at as well. Minus my USB seems to be working. I feel changing the battery would help me out as well. The more reading I do, the more apprehensive I am. I see reports of no change after battery change, or wireless charging no longer works, or cutting the power button cable. I just don't even want to deal with that. I also read that a user took his phone into a battery place and they broke his phone. Ended up giving him $250 for the device. So I am dealing with my Nexus 6. I am also debating on a Pixel XL 2. The Pixel 3 is way out of my price range.
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I've swapped batteries recently, and I can tell You that only damage You can do is basically when removing backcover, and thats easily avoidable if You're careful. Under the backplate only thing that might get damaged is the volume/power ribbon and it goes from height of volume/power buttons up till around top of the phone. Oh, and the frame can get damaged too, but thats extreme case, since the mid section of the frame (under where the battery and wireless charging coil sits) can survive bending, just something to keep in mind when separating the backcover (If it sticks hard to the cover, just warm it up some more and separate with plastic card/carefully with something made from metal). After the backcover is gone You're basically set .

Looks like a lot of N6 users have this problem with the USB connector. Mine charges only under a certain angle but i'm not buying a new phone
Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 6 met Tapatalk

Hoantjes said:
Looks like a lot of N6 users have this problem with the USB connector. Mine charges only under a certain angle but i'm not buying a new phone
Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 6 met Tapatalk
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I had this issue and thought it was toast. Got a toothpick and whittled it down so it fit around inside the entire port. Cleaned a whole lot of crap out of it and now it charges like it was brand new.

Phone is still functional with lineageOS for normal activities. youtube and browsing. I still prefer the 16:9 even if it makes the phone wide. The games i play on the n6 vs the pixel xl 2 are sluggish in comparison. I'm about to use it and slap a sprint BYOD sim into it.

I think those complaining about the price of the Pixels are forgetting that the Nexus 6 was very expensive when it came out. Having bought a Nexus 4 previously I was interested in a Nexus 6 but I could not justify the expense to myself. Eventually after the release of the 6P a local store had some remaining 6s and reduced the price to where I could justify buying one. But they were as expensive as flagships of the time.
The same has happened with the Pixel, a couple of months ago the last few new ones on sale locally were reduced and I bought a Pixel XL. I wanted something new, with developer support and with a headphone socket.
But in some ways the Pixel XL is less than a Nexus 6, notably there is no notification LED and the screen is smaller and especially narrower. I am a Linux server admin and one of the things I occasionally do is SSH to a server, and the Pixel XL screen isn't as good for that. Sure it's faster but I don't really need a faster CPU.
The whole trend to make narrower screens and remove useful features like notification LEDs and headphone sockets is making newer smartphones worse. So I hope to keep using the Nexus 6 for a while yet. I bought a wireless charging pad so that I would not wear out the USB socket as quickly. I use double tap to wake in order to not wear out the power/wake button (my Nexus 4 suffers from a power button which now needs a good push to work).

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This is where I am at as well. Minus my USB seems to be working. I feel changing the battery would help me out as well. The more reading I do, the more apprehensive I am. I see reports of no change after battery change, or wireless charging no longer works, or cutting the power button cable. I just don't even want to deal with that. I also read that a user took his phone into a battery place and they broke his phone. Ended up giving him $250 for the device. So I am dealing with my Nexus 6. I am also debating on a Pixel XL 2. The Pixel 3 is way out of my price range.
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Yeah I just purchased a nexus 6 this year, and it had a bad battery. So being I have a little experience in the field of phones, I ordered a battery and I carefully opened it up. - I got it all apart and changed the battery out, when I had finished all worked as intended. It isn't too difficult to do. :good:

almahix said:
I've owned this great Nexus 6 since shortly after it was introduced. I've loved it since day 1. Lately I've been having problems with the USB connector. It was loose and the charging cable was constantly falling out. So I figured it was time to move on to a new phone. I hastily ordered a new Pixel 2 XL on Swappa without a second thought... it was was afterall the newest "Nexus".
I anticipated its arrival for a week. When it arrived I opened it up and did just a very minimal setup, just so I could see the settings. I was underwhelmed and immediately realized there was nothing about it that was better than the Nexus.
It had great specs, but nothing that was very exciting. It is said to have a spectacular camera, but that isn't a priority. I was thinking about unlocking the bootloader, flashing a rom and rooting. But I would end up with nothing better than the Nexus. So I did nothing but put it back in the box, list it on Swappa, sold it, and shipped it.
I found someone who said they would fix the USB connector, so I took it to his shop, he fixed it and I paid him $25 for his trouble even though he didn't charge me for a minute's work.
Even though the purchase and sale cost me some money, I am so pleased to have a renewed appreciation for my Nexus. There isn't a better phone on the market for me. I'm running Nitrogen 8.1 ROM and couldn't be happier.
The other man's grass is always greener.
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I nearly agree. The Nexus 6 was a great phone. Well ahead of its time in many/most respects. In some ways, I did find the pixel2xl a bit of a downgrade, in particular, while both are called a "6 inch", the Nexus 6 is most definitely bigger. Especially its width, which is the most important dimension since width dictates the utility of the on screen keyboard. I found the on screen keyboard on the N6 to be "adequate", and on the P2XL, I find it to be "very challenging". Also the lack of wireless charging.
You mention the camera. To be honest, I can't much tell the difference between the cameras, except that the p2xl is ***FASTER*** and more stable (mostly affects video). The image quality is roughly the same. N6 was way ahead of its time in that respect as well, even throwing in OIS, which wasn't repeated until... P2XL. The P1's EIS makes your brain hurt -- motions are very unnatural on it. The EIS+OIS combination on the P2 really is incredible though.
But the big issue with the N6? No more support from Google, and I just don't have time to keep it up myself, nor the desire to wade through buggy "kitchen sink" system images hacked up by high school kids who want to bloat it out with completely useless and half baked "features". The phone has to actually work reliably, and so from that point of view, it was time to move on. My service provider has also upgraded from HSPA to LTE, but the N6 only supports LTE on a band that they're barely using for LTE.
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I think those complaining about the price of the Pixels are forgetting that the Nexus 6 was very expensive when it came out.
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That. $700 for the N6 at launch. That's $750 with 4 years of inflation factored in.
But in some ways the Pixel XL is less than a Nexus 6, notably there is no notification LED
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Eh.... you got that backwards. Nexus 6 is the one that didn't ship with a working notification light. Some hacks have partially enabled it, but to my knowledge, nobody ever got the blinking hardware working for it (since the blink function is simply not implemented in the firmware). The pixel's *ALL* have a working notification light, you just have to turn them on, which (unlike N6) you can do from the settings menu.
Settings --> Notifications --> Advanced --> Notifications --> Blink light. At least that is where it is on Android 9.
The whole trend to make narrower screens
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Agreed. Wider screen is more useful. Give me a 6" 16x10 and I'll be much happier than the bullpoop 6" on the P2XL.
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Addressed above. Still there.
and headphone sockets
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How is that a useful feature? The last thing I ever would want to do, is fumble around with tangled and probably broken wires when I'm trying to use my phone. Good riddance to the dirt sucking water injection port!
I bought a wireless charging pad.
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Miss that.

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Eh.... you got that backwards. Nexus 6 is the one that didn't ship with a working notification light. Some hacks have partially enabled it, but to my knowledge, nobody ever got the blinking hardware working for it (since the blink function is simply not implemented in the firmware). The pixel's *ALL* have a working notification light, you just have to turn them on, which (unlike N6) you can do from the settings menu.
Settings --> Notifications --> Advanced --> Notifications --> Blink light. At least that is where it is on Android 9.
How is that a useful feature? The last thing I ever would want to do, is fumble around with tangled and probably broken wires when I'm trying to use my phone. Good riddance to the dirt sucking water injection port!
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Yes the N6 LED wasn't enabled in stock firmware, but it is there and works with the LineageOS ROM I have installed.
Thank you for helping with the setting on the Pixel XL. I am amazed that it wasn't set to on when new out of the box. A person would never know it was there.
I think I prefer the steady light over the blink as I know I will see it when I glance at the phone. Yes I know it would use more power.
Both my cars, one 10+ years old and the other 20+ years old don't have bluetooth inputs but do have 3.5mm inputs, so the audio out on the smartphone is useful for music while driving. I use that more often than using headphones. It is more expensive to replace the car stereo or the whole car than finding a smartphone with a 3.5mm socket. Also I sometimes plug in one of the sets of computer speakers I have lying around. I don't need to go out and spend more money on the silly bluetooth speakers which are mostly not even in stereo.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Google Pixel 3 XL, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Google Pixel 3 XL is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Well it is a Google Pixel so of course there is gonna be some love ?
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I've owned the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 6P, both of which were great devices. What's so special about the 3XL? There's nothing in it that isn't found in phones that are way cheaper. For those of you shouting about vanilla android, there is no vanilla android any more. Even Google now includes features that aren't found in any other version of android. But the thing that annoys me the most about pixel phones is Google's price policy. Why oh why are these phones 30% more expensive in Europe?

i just watched unbox therapy's video of the pixel 3 xl. to be honest i like it. yes the notch is bigger than others but it doesnt seem to bother me. maybe i'm too used to it from my iphone x. i wish the area on the sides of the notch would hold more information, but that is where xda comes in. i'm sure some developers can put more info there with their roms. the camera looks amazing. the screen quality finally looks up to par with samsung even though it's still an LG screen. you can tell they have matured their oled screens fast. the build quality looks really good. that soft gorilla glass on the back that doesnt attract finger prints looks like a nice touch. i'm going to objectively give this device a try instead of blindly following the masses of haters. but based of the videos i've watched already i think this device will end up being a great one.

Why do people keep asking why we pay more for phones in Europe? In Europe we pay VAT which adds about 20% to the cost of just about everything. It may not account for all the price difference but it accounts for the majority of it.

Overall Phones are good with price range. Nothing to hate about it. Phone has lot more than other phones with that price range. I had good experience with Pixel 2 XL. Phones are worthy to buy.
People hate about notch trend but I say its only way to cover screen on front. About some trends you will used to it. its not making problem in functionality.
I have Pixel 2 XL why I should by Pixel 3 XL ?
Plus about this phones is Snapdragon 845 , Titan M security module and Wireless Charging in Hardware. + ( Notch some people not like it )
about notch google will provide option to disable notch like one plus 6.
Pixel Cameras are always awesome then others with that price.
I believe Pixel users are 95% genuine users who uses almost every feature that company provide.
Not like iPhone users wasting lots of parent's money to show off just a logo.
Apple call their eco system it is like handcuffs to buy their won stuff and 30% features not work if you don't have other apple products.
[ Pixels = You will get maximum benefit of Artificial Intelligence. This is what I mean. ]

Got my 3 XL yesterday. I'm coming from a 2 XL so I expected a slight upgrade, but I'm finding a lot of things I love that I didn't expect.
- Tap to wake is WAY faster than on the 2. Having both side by side, the 3 wakes up a full second before the 2.
- The screen on the 3 looks sooo good. Crisper even. I never had any complaints about my 2 XL's screen, but I can tell the 3 XL is definitely better
- Speakers are noticeably better. Not sure about how loud they get, but the sound is richer on the 3 than the 2. The 2 is tinnier.
- Wide Angle Selfie camera is pretty cool
- Low light photos are noticeably better. This I didn't expect to notice as much, but a side by side comparison of the same photo with the two phones shows a noticeable improvement. The 2's photo looks duller than the 3. They might look the same after some post processing, but the 3's photo looks great without any touchups.
- Not phone related, but the Google Fabric case covers more of the bottom of the phone than the 2's did.
The only thing I have NOT liked is that with the notch, the number of notification icons in the status bar has been reduced to three, meaning 2 and a dot if you have more. If I reduce the display size to the lowest one, I can get three and a dot. The 2 XL has 4 and a dot. Hopefully we can figure out a way to turn off the clock. I never use it and I'd gladly give it up in exchange for more icons.

After I got the phone I realize it is so much better than expected. And the software polish and hard ware polish is next level

Very nice but some complaints
Just got my Pixel 3 XL last night and was impressed with the look and feel. I'm coming from the original Pixel XL. No notch complaints here. I was happy with everything until I got in my car. I have a Jeep JL with Android Auto. I was expecting the two to come together as expected but nothing happened. Spent time changing usb cables. I see power on the Pixel but no love from Android Auto. I'm hoping I just need to go to the dealership for a firmware upgrade or something but its disappointing that it just didn't work.
The only other thing I don't like is the double swipe up to get to the app drawer. Not sure how I feel about it.
With that said my complaints are minor. SOOOO many cool features that like.

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Just got my Pixel 3 XL last night and was impressed with the look and feel. I'm coming from the original Pixel XL. No notch complaints here. I was happy with everything until I got in my car. I have a Jeep JL with Android Auto. I was expecting the two to come together as expected but nothing happened. Spent time changing usb cables. I see power on the Pixel but no love from Android Auto. I'm hoping I just need to go to the dealership for a firmware upgrade or something but its disappointing that it just didn't work.
The only other thing I don't like is the double swipe up to get to the app drawer. Not sure how I feel about it.
With that said my complaints are minor. SOOOO many cool features that like.
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My 2017 CRV also had trouble the first time I tried to use Android Auto. No map showed up, it gave me an ETA and the first turn arrow, but the only thing that updated was the ETA which was WAY off. When I got to my destination, I restarted the phone and the car, and on my way home, it worked as it normally does.

Happy out here. Got my 3xl 128gb on Verizon pre paid yesterday. Using on SIM in Ireland. Love pretty much everything about the phone. Kinda wish it had face unlocking but otherwise very happy. Everything just works and no bloat.

OK, so this may be biased, but I'm 100% in love with this phone. This is my first pixel phone, and I'm coming from a mid/budget phone, so that may make all the difference, but from the looks, the feels, the screen, the new gestures, the smoothness, the speakers, the call quality, the battery life, to whatever else this phone is, and can do, I love it. I've never had such a great experience from day one on any other phone, and I've been on Android since I got a Nexus One on day one. To me this phone is perfect. There is not one thing I can think of to complain about (OK I do have one. Have the phone either a bit thicker, or find another way to make the camera bump on the back flush).

Coming from a Oneplus 3T here. I am going through an RMA right now for the speaker issue, just to put that out there. With that aside, I love the phone otherwise. My only concern going in was the battery to be honest. The battery was larger than my 3T but still smaller than last year. It is a great phone. A great improvement over my 3T, which was still one of the best phones I've had.

Love the phone. Totally seamless Google experience

Overall impression so far.
Got the phone on Friday, October 19, 2018.
1. Good build quality (better than 2 XL); feels rigid & premium in hand. The frosted glass back is really smooth & good to touch. Better that my ex's skin.
2. Battery life is pretty good too. Same or better than 2 XL. First cycle (WiFi only): from 96%; SOT: 5 hr 10 min in 1 day 10 hrs with 16% to go. It will ofc get better with more cycles & as it learns more. Also, the battery is smaller than that of 2 XL & powers a bigger & better screen & louder speakers.
3. Cameras. Need not say anything.
4. Screen: it is a Samsung panel on the 3 XL, performs like one. Really good. No black clipping for me except maybe on mobile data when speeds are low. That is more like a buffering and pixel issue but no black clipping. Could happen on any phone.
5. I really like the included USB-C Pixel buds; took me 10 minutes to get the right fit & learn to use them (fit them); follow the animations in the first time setup. They are really good. Good bass too.
6. Charging time using charger included in box: from 16% to 100%: around 1 hour 40 minutes. WiFi on. AOD on.
7. Notch: got used to it already & not noticeable anymore. I don't play games on the phone at all.
8. The speakers: a minor issue of imbalanced audio(bottom grill is louder) but no buzzing for me & no muffled sound either. Fixable via software update.
9. RAM management: it is bad rn; fixable by software update as the cause has already looks to be the kernel `lowmemoryKiller` as per some sources when you google.
I see 0 hardware based issues with the phone (apart from notch which is bad design & not an issue for me at least). Other issues will be addressed via an update. I see better performance in the future already. Even the pixel 2 xl got better with updates (at least for me).
Buying the Pixel stand soon.
TL;DR: Love it. Keeping it.

Like the phone...my only issues are with the display brightness and sometimes ram management. My conspiracy is that google dimmed the screen in order to avoid a crappy battery. 100% on this is like 65% on my iphone. Other than that, I love the speakers! Not sure if it's worth the $900

Love it but highly intrigued by the 6T coming next week

I remember when in the Nexus days, everyone said that all vanilla Android needed was a great camera and it'd be perfect. Google listened and produced pixel line with best camera, 3 generations in a row now. Now all anyone can do is nitpick the hardware. I think Google has achieved what most enthusiasts were after.

overall i like it, price should drop $300+ - Pixel 3 XL crosshatch 128 black G013C
What: Google Pixel 3 XL crosshatch 128 black G013C
good/great:
camera
camera software
free storage of pictures and video
nice to have included earbuds
screen is decent and not overwarm like apple's off white warm screen tones. proper whitebalance, maybe slightly blue, but a very good screen.
fast - fast booting, fast behavior
not so good / annoying:
4 gb ram @ $1000 price point?
128 vs 256/512 ssd at $1000 price point?
no sd card slot - give it a rest google.
included earbuds done noise cancel. why in the world would they do that?
i cant see where 300-400 dollars went for a phone that costs $1000 + $129 in preferred care
insultingly overpriced wireless earbuds
insultingly overpriced wireless dock
insultingly overpriced accessories in general by screwgle.
drm on Qi / fake Qi charging - 10 watts in the drm mode isnt even enough let alone be enough in the drm-allowed mode. 5W is just pathetic.
included wired charger isnt as good as previous pixel chargers. should include the big dual port charger from the pixel c
ifixit score is terrible (4 of 10). right to repair legislation is going to be needed - an industry wide problem - sad to see in a $1000 phone
audio jack missing - why do this?
faceunlock - i do have an iphone X from work (they gave it for free) - i do enjoy that feature.
bad:
- notch is just stupid. its stupid on the X, XS and on 3XL. stop the god damned notches. i just shut the notch off in developer options so its just a waste of pixels but its just poor design.
- pie having that idiotic gesture system and its forced (no developer or hidden option to go back). just copy the iphone's gesture system and be done with this moronic one
overall im happy because $1000 for me isnt breaking the bank but there are plenty of people where $1000 is a bit on the high side and this phone just doesnt deliver that value. its a nice phone and im happy with it - best android has to offer and camera is the most important feature - but google is a jerk, sundar pichai is a greedy jerk and a bad CEO. when i think of sundar pichai i think of a jerk who is also a spineless milquetoast. when i think of Steve Jobs i think of a jerk who was obsessed with aesthetics, beauty, ease of use, wanting to be best of breed, form and function, etc. google needs a better CEO. sundar pichai is a greedy jerk who needs to work at this harder than he does or let someone good take his place

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Just got my Pixel 3 XL last night and was impressed with the look and feel. I'm coming from the original Pixel XL. No notch complaints here. I was happy with everything until I got in my car. I have a Jeep JL with Android Auto. I was expecting the two to come together as expected but nothing happened. Spent time changing usb cables. I see power on the Pixel but no love from Android Auto. I'm hoping I just need to go to the dealership for a firmware upgrade or something but its disappointing that it just didn't work.
The only other thing I don't like is the double swipe up to get to the app drawer. Not sure how I feel about it.
With that said my complaints are minor. SOOOO many cool features that like.
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Hey Im coming from the OG pixel xl as well. I currently have the 6t but don't actually find it much of an upgrade from my pixel. Ive got 15 days to return it so Im looking to buy the 3xl instead. Would you say that the upgrade from the OG xl to the 3xl is worth it?? Thanks!