Lots of battery drain while in standby mode - Moto E4 Questions & Answers

I have noticed that this phone the Motorola moto e4 has a really bad battery drain and it looks like that FMRadioService might be the problem I am not for sure but I would like to ask other people what they are getting so we can figure this out

I have the FM radio disabled and don't really have many battery issues. I've been on my phone since I took it off the charger three hours ago, overclocked cpu on performance mode, and brightness all the way up and this is what I'm at.
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I did some more digging because my Android system is always high i downloaded gsam battery monitor and found out that the kernel is keeping the phone awake when it's supposed to go to a deep sleep

KyleBryant said:
I have the FM radio disabled and don't really have many battery issues. I've been on my phone since I took it off the charger three hours ago, overclocked cpu on performance mode, and brightness all the way up and this is what I'm at.
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I'm not talking about the fm radio I'm talking about the fm radio service it seemed to have been using battery for no reason

Ah I see, yeah my battery drain isn't really that bad.
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KyleBryant said:
Ah I see, yeah my battery drain isn't really that bad.
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Well I have been digging around more for the past few days and found out the kernel has been keeping my phone awake and not letting it go into deep sleep and I am not sure why

I have noticed something using an insane amount of ram all the sudden.
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KyleBryant said:
I have noticed something using an insane amount of rom all the sudden.
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I am using stock rom and I am getting the same ram usage as you and I don't really have anything downloaded

mattvail692 said:
I am using stock rom and I am getting the same ram usage as you and I don't really have anything downloaded
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Well it used to be at like 600mb steady and all the sudden it's 1.1-1.3gb constant

KyleBryant said:
Well it used to be at like 600mb steady and all the sudden it's 1.1-1.3gb constant
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Mine runs about 1.1 gigs most of the time and sometimes it gets lower but I found out a bunch of system apps have been sitting their for hours doing things in the background and not letting it deep sleep and I can't do anything cause they are system apps

I ended up doing a factory wipe of my phone to test some things, my ram usage is back to normal now.

KyleBryant said:
I ended up doing a factory wipe of my phone to test some things, my ram usage is back to normal now.[/QUOTE
I have factory wiped my phone idk how many times and I still get the same results
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mattvail692 said:
Mine runs about 1.1 gigs most of the time and sometimes it gets lower but I found out a bunch of system apps have been sitting their for hours doing things in the background and not letting it deep sleep and I can't do anything cause they are system apps
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Hi mattvail692, could you find out the source of the battery drain? I just bought a Moto E4, and I find I can hardly last 1/2 a day. It is burning energy at the rate of 18% per hour.

sanjayc2911 said:
Hi mattvail692, could you find out the source of the battery drain? I just bought a Moto E4, and I find I can hardly last 1/2 a day. It is burning energy at the rate of 18% per hour.
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I use mine all day and usually get a day and a half usage on one charge.
I don't use Facebook or any of that crap, and have disabled most of that crapware on mine.

madbat99 said:
I use mine all day and usually get a day and a half usage on one charge.
I don't use Facebook or any of that crap, and have disabled most of that crapware on mine.
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Thanks madbat99. In Settings-> Battery, I find that the main culprit (48%) is Screen. I wonder what the reason can be, since most of the time screen is switched off.

sanjayc2911 said:
Thanks madbat99. In Settings-> Battery, I find that the main culprit (48%) is Screen. I wonder what the reason can be, since most of the time screen is switched off.
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That means your phone has recorded the screen taking up the most. If your not using the screen much, it could be that your phone is not recording the record of the real reason. Hard to diagnose on a non rooted device. You can try greenify (it has some non root functions). From the playstore. But it's hard to say if it will help until you try it

My current battery. With alot of use so far.

Sitting overnight, no drain while idle.

My idle drain averages 0.6%/hr on stock with all radios on, location services on, full push mail (50+ messages/day) and active display enabled. Device sleeps like a baby yet remains fully functional and engaged with the outside world. Can get several days of light use on a single charge. XT1768 unlocked, rooted (Magisk) with no social media apps (prefer lite alternatives). Living under a rock has it's advantages.

sanjayc2911 said:
Hi mattvail692, could you find out the source of the battery drain? I just bought a Moto E4, and I find I can hardly last 1/2 a day. It is burning energy at the rate of 18% per hour.
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I am not sure i picked up a lg x power on my e4 it said the kernel was keeping it awake all the time best thing to do is get a new phone i have heard the
Moto e4 plus is a big improvement over the e4

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Terrible battery life

Hello everyone, i purchased my Nexus 7 and it arrived in the mail 3 days ago. And as with every other Android device ive ever owned, the batter is absolutely terrible. I get about 2hrs on screen time when browing the web and maybe playing an occasional game. Does anyone have any idea whats going on? Or have any way to help? Thanks so much
That is pretty bad. Try a factory reset. Might be something you installed.
I'd hate to do a factory reset cause I just barely got it set up but..I'll try it anyway tonight
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Scoutamis said:
I'd hate to do a factory reset cause I just barely got it set up but..I'll try it anyway tonight
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Doing a factory reset before installing anything is becoming the gold standard.
Hope it helps you.
I get between 7-9 hours of active use. Sounds like some process is running amok on yours. I didn't factory reset when I bought it either....though I have rooted it since then, but battery life is about the same pre and post root.
You might want to consider a program to monitor battery use to see what's eating it up. Maybe do that before you factory reset it so you don't install the same thing again.
ScandaLeX said:
Doing a factory reset before installing anything is becoming the gold standard.
Hope it helps you.
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Really? Like as soon as you set up the device, you are suppose to factory reset it? And since im facotry resetting it 3 days into having it, do i have to calibrate the battery again?
ExploreMN said:
I get between 7-9 hours of active use. Sounds like some process is running amok on yours. I didn't factory reset when I bought it either....though I have rooted it since then, but battery life is about the same pre and post root.
You might want to consider a program to monitor battery use to see what's eating it up. Maybe do that before you factory reset it so you don't install the same thing again.
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Do you have any battery monitoring apps in mind? I would love to see what is eating up my battery
Scoutamis said:
Do you have any battery monitoring apps in mind? I would love to see what is eating up my battery
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System panel is a good app to find what's using your CPU and better batterystats can help find what's keeping your phone from going to deep sleep. An easy way to see if this is the case is go into battery setting and select the first option(history details). Compare the Awake bar with the screen on bar. Those two should be nearly identical if not then you have a rogue app.
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Do you have any battery monitoring apps in mind? I would love to see what is eating up my battery
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The one I've seen mentioned several times in here is BetterBatteryStats. I just don't want to drop $3.00 on something I don't need. It might help your issue though.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats
neotekz said:
System panel is a good app to find what's using your CPU and better batterystats can help find what's keeping your phone from going to deep sleep. An easy way to see if this is the case is go into battery setting and select the first option(history details). Compare the Awake bar with the screen on bar. Those two should be nearly identical if not then you have a rogue app.
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Alright ill try system panel, and i looked at the battery setting and awake and screen on are almost exactly the same.
ExploreMN said:
The one I've seen mentioned several times in here is BetterBatteryStats. I just don't want to drop $3.00 on something I don't need. It might help your issue though.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats
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Well then, here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Scoutamis said:
Alright ill try system panel, and i looked at the battery setting and awake and screen on are almost exactly the same.
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have you flashed any kernels or roms? sometimes this makes the tablet report the wrong battery stats for a bit.
did you run the battery down until it turns off and then give it a full charge? sometimes you have more juice than what is being reported. ive been stuck at 1-2% for over an hour before. Most likely its a rogue app though, system panel and better batterystats should find out what app it is. if they dont then it could be that you have a defective battery...
Been on mine continuously for 3 hrs 18 mins and at 60%. Excellent if you ask me. Next step up in battery life would be Transformer series with dock.
Scoutamis said:
Hello everyone, i purchased my Nexus 7 and it arrived in the mail 3 days ago. And as with every other Android device ive ever owned, the batter is absolutely terrible. I get about 2hrs on screen time when browing the web and maybe playing an occasional game. Does anyone have any idea whats going on? Or have any way to help? Thanks so much
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Quite the opposite for me; unlike every other Android device I've had (Nexus One, GS2) the battery life is excellent. I watched 720p mkv video on the train yesterday for a good 3 hours, and still had ~70% by the time I got home, from a full charge.
The battery life is excellent, as far as I'm concerned.
Scoutamis said:
Really? Like as soon as you set up the device, you are suppose to factory reset it? And since im facotry resetting it 3 days into having it, do i have to calibrate the battery again?
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Don't think you needed to calibrate the battery to begin with. I usually get fine battery life without doing anything special.
Something must be causing the poor battery on your Nexus, Yesterday after my N7 was fully charged, I watched the movie Thor for 1hr and 54 minutes n and my battery only dropped to 83%.
I'm at 16 hours and 52 minutes with 3 hours and 44 minutes of on screen time, the battery is at 51%
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neotekz said:
have you flashed any kernels or roms? sometimes this makes the tablet report the wrong battery stats for a bit.
did you run the battery down until it turns off and then give it a full charge? sometimes you have more juice than what is being reported. ive been stuck at 1-2% for over an hour before. Most likely its a rogue app though, system panel and better batterystats should find out what app it is. if they dont then it could be that you have a defective battery...
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My N7 is completely stock and has never been rooted. I also did do a couple charge cycles which didn't seem to help much. And better batterystats has AudioOut_2 at 38% (while I'm playing music) but other than that it doesn't seem to be a rogue app
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Download CPU spy from the market to see if the tablet is sleeping properly, and what frequency its constantly running at
Scoutamis said:
My N7 is completely stock and has never been rooted. I also did do a couple charge cycles which didn't seem to help much. And better batterystats has AudioOut_2 at 38% (while I'm playing music) but other than that it doesn't seem to be a rogue app
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Unless you listen to music for over 5 hours or streaming the songs it shouldnt use that much battery. If you can't find a wakelock with better battery stats then it might just be a bad unit.

Ridiculous battery drain on standby

It seems that the battery drain on my newest N7 (RMA'd first one) is waay worse than on the other, I'll attach some screen shots of what I mean.. it may be just the WiFi is using a lot more than the other's :S I left it 4 hours alone with WiFi and the battery drained 20+ % which even with WiFi on seems excessive does it not? Is it possible I got one with a faulty WiFi radio? I will be testing tomorrow (or maybe tonight) to see battery drain with WiFi turned off to compare, because it also seemed to drain fast when I was just out and about with WiFi off :/ worried I have bad battery, deep sleep isn't working right (it is going into deep sleep or at least thinks it is from looking at cpuspy), or faulty WiFi... or just too early to judge XD has anyone noticed battery improve over time ? I forget if I did was a month ago I got the original
BTW first screen shot was taken pretty much right as I was leaving for work, so you can compare the battery drain there..
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I doubt it's a bad wifi radio, its probably an app that is syncing like crazy in the background.
I'm currently watching the MediaServer app use a disproportionate amount of battery (14% and rising). I deleted a number of images which must of kicked in the scanner which must be very inefficient.
I also noticed my N7 become very slow at the same time.
Possibly you downloaded a large amount of images/music/etc before putting your device to sleep...
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Toast95135 said:
I doubt it's a bad wifi radio, its probably an app that is syncing like crazy in the background.
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I really wish I could figure out why maps keeps starting a process.. can you check to see how many instances of maps there are ? In particular one running Prefetcherservice.. as for the other comment, media server is sitting at 6%, android is at 14%, and screen at 67%.. though I did copy a bunch of songs and pictures over after the RMA, is there a way to fix these or should I delete them to see if it gets better ?
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Sigh, I might just have a bad battery, or preferably poorly calibrated, since another hour of use, just browsing and such, and I'm down 20% more -_- hope I don't have to RMA again
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As a side question.. how hot does your tablet get under normal use? Mine has been heating up quite a bit in the battery section i think with just average on browser use :/
noneabove said:
As a side question.. how hot does your tablet get under normal use? Mine has been heating up quite a bit in the battery section i think with just average on browser use :/
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Nothing you've mentioned sounds even the slightest bit out of the ordinary. I know a person who thinks they are always sick is a hypochondriac so is someone who always thinks there is something wrong with their computing device a hypo-com-driac?
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Nothing you've mentioned sounds even the slightest bit out of the ordinary. I know a person who thinks they are always sick is a hypochondriac so is someone who always thinks there is something wrong with their computing device a hypo-com-driac?
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Bahaha good one I dunno, the problem is that this is literally my fourth N7 since the other three allll suffered from major screen lifting, so maybe I am looking for something wrong just so i can make sure it's perfect... Though I do think the battery life is pretty weak, I think I may have figured SOMETHING out, the only difference between this and my original is that my original had a huge section of the map of my area downloaded, and since I did that maps hasn't started any additional processes.. so good sign ? maybe ? haha
noneabove said:
Bahaha good one I dunno, the problem is that this is literally my fourth N7 since the other three allll suffered from major screen lifting, so maybe I am looking for something wrong just so i can make sure it's perfect... Though I do think the battery life is pretty weak, I think I may have figured SOMETHING out, the only difference between this and my original is that my original had a huge section of the map of my area downloaded, and since I did that maps hasn't started any additional processes.. so good sign ? maybe ? haha
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Yeah this might be a good time to stop looking for trouble and just enjoy the tablet for a while. I drop mine on the charger in the morning and don't ever really think about the battery other than that. Whatever the battery stats say now they won't say in a week and they won't say after you flash to a different ROM. If you have wifi on apps will sync and the tablet will loose it's charge. I'm never far enough away from an outlet to make it much of a concern. So maybe just take a breather, install the Angry Birds and have some fun for a bit. Eventually we'll have ROM's and kernels that make this thing sip electricity but for now I get the few hours a day I need out of it on one charge so I'm set.
findmike said:
Yeah this might be a good time to stop looking for trouble and just enjoy the tablet for a while. I drop mine on the charger in the morning and don't ever really think about the battery other than that. Whatever the battery stats say now they won't say in a week and they won't say after you flash to a different ROM. If you have wifi on apps will sync and the tablet will loose it's charge. I'm never far enough away from an outlet to make it much of a concern. So maybe just take a breather, install the Angry Birds and have some fun for a bit. Eventually we'll have ROM's and kernels that make this thing sip electricity but for now I get the few hours a day I need out of it on one charge so I'm set.
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You think the battery life will get much better than what it is? My only other android experience is my HTC Desire Z which has a horrible battery as it is so it didn't improve much at all with custom roms
Speaking of improved life through ROMs and kernels, have you noticed any kernel providing particularly better battery life ? I'm on trinity right now, no voltage changing, but underclocked to 1.1 ghz from 1.3
Factory reset, see if the problem continues. That's the only way decide if it's a HW problem.
And my N7 uses effectively 0% battery in standby, it was off the charger yesterday for 6 hours and when I started playing around it was still at 99%. I turn off wifi on screen off, however.
Use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 to find out what's waking up your phone, the apk is in the second post. Install, charge it up, unplug, leave for 4 hours idle then look at partial wakelocks and alarms.
I saved quite a bit of standby time by disabling location services and Facebook.
If your not using nfc that could save battery?
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Salty Wagyu said:
Use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 to find out what's waking up your phone, the apk is in the second post. Install, charge it up, unplug, leave for 4 hours idle then look at partial wakelocks and alarms.
I saved quite a bit of standby time by disabling location services and Facebook.
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^ do that
I used Better Battery Stats to figure out Google Maps was causing wakelocks. I cleared data in the maps app and now my 7 idles without much battery drain at all.
northbridge said:
^ do that
I used Better Battery Stats to figure out Google Maps was causing wakelocks. I cleared data in the maps app and now my 7 idles without much battery drain at all.
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Haha I actually just read your post in the kernel thread about this and immediately cleared map data, now I'm about to unplug and see what happens!
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noneabove said:
Haha I actually just read your post in the kernel thread about this and immediately cleared map data, now I'm about to unplug and see what happens!
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If that doesnt work for you, Better Battery Stats should be able to tell you what app is causing the drain.
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If that doesnt work for you, Better Battery Stats should be able to tell you what app is causing the drain.
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Well, left it for an hour on standby with wifi on, 0% drain, let's see how rest of day goes !
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If that doesnt work for you, Better Battery Stats should be able to tell you what app is causing the drain.
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So it seems like partial wakelock is mostly audioout_2 which i assume comes from me playing a game with music amongst other things?
Alarms says com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox has 50 wakeups, and maps has 38 :S why does maps keep trying to kill me?! and what is the googlequicksearchbox doing waking the tablet up...
Wlan_Rx_wake seems to be the culprit of semi bad battery. Is there a way to prevent the tablet from waking up all the time? Maybe just unsync or turn off WiFi instead?
noneabove said:
So it seems like partial wakelock is mostly audioout_2 which i assume comes from me playing a game with music amongst other things?
Alarms says com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox has 50 wakeups, and maps has 38 :S why does maps keep trying to kill me?! and what is the googlequicksearchbox doing waking the tablet up...
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When my battery drain was bad I had something like 250+ wakeups from maps under the alarms section in only a few hours off the charger and Maps was showing up as the most common reason for partial wakelocks.
I think AudioOut_2 is normal - Im not sure what it does though. Im now at 8+ hours of standby with 99% battery. Under alarms im showing 138 Maps wakeups and 76 from google quick search box. My drain is all gone now though so i assume this is within normal range. The better battery stats thread and a few other threads on XDA have detailed descriptions of the different battery draining wakelocks and possible remedies. Not all wakelocks are bad though.

n00b here, need help with battery issues

Hi there; this is my first post so please go easy on me.
Bought a Nexus 4 which is my first Android device, but the battery life is bugging the hell out of me. Surely the screen should always be at the top, right? I left it to sleep overnight on a full charge to find that it had shot down to 60% when I woke up at 7 this morning.
I haven't rooted or flashed or anything like that, because as I said, I'm an Android virgin. I have location settings off, only Gmail syncing and the usual push notifications here and there. Nothing too fancy or strenuous.
Any help on how I can go around fixing this? I'm a little afraid to rooting/flashing/ROMs etc, because I've no clue what works best.
Cheers!
If your saying you left the screen on over night, meaning the phone never went into deep sleep.. If you slept for let's say 6 hours and the phones screen was on for that whole time it's normal that it went down to sixty percent battery.
Maybe I'm understanding your post wrong? Btw I cannot see the picture you posted.
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Turn off mobile data and lower the screen brightness to 0 during the day. Also disable WiFi when you're sleeping. I also make sure all apps are closed using the app manager button on the far right.
Mine's been fine following this logic.
Oh sorry, I should meant sleeping overnight, whilst I slept cosily in my bed.
I'll reattach the image in a second
Ah, you won't be able to see any links till I've gone past 10 posts. Back in a bit then, ha.
atw1927 said:
Ah, you won't be able to see any links till I've gone past 10 posts. Back in a bit then, ha.
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lol I see it now.. try performing a reset, android shouldn't be that high.. are you rooted? custom rom/kernel?
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lol I see it now.. try performing a reset, android shouldn't be that high.. are you rooted? custom rom/kernel?
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This is NOT the answer. His battery in the image has dropped 7%. If he hasn't used the screen much it is perfectly understandable that screen might not be a large percentage of that 7%. As he uses the phone more screen will use a larger percentage of his battery and Android OS will use less.
If he gets to the point where the screen is on for an hour or two and the percentages are still like this then yes there is a problem.
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joshnichols189 said:
This is NOT the answer. His battery in the image has dropped 7%. If he hasn't used the screen much it is perfectly understandable that screen might not be a large percentage of that 7%. As he uses the phone more screen will use a larger percentage of his battery and Android OS will use less.
If he gets to the point where the screen is on for an hour or two and the percentages are still like this then yes there is a problem.
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My android system has never been that high, regardless if I used the phone for 10 minutes or 10 seconds , or not at all.
atw1927 said:
Hi there; this is my first post so please go easy on me.
Bought a Nexus 4 which is my first Android device, but the battery life is bugging the hell out of me. Surely the screen should always be at the top, right? I left it to sleep overnight on a full charge to find that it had shot down to 60% when I woke up at 7 this morning.
I haven't rooted or flashed or anything like that, because as I said, I'm an Android virgin. I have location settings off, only Gmail syncing and the usual push notifications here and there. Nothing too fancy or strenuous.
Any help on how I can go around fixing this? I'm a little afraid to rooting/flashing/ROMs etc, because I've no clue what works best.
Cheers!
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Actually No the "Screen" should not always be at the top of the stat list. If you use the phone more than it idles, then yes... but if you are like me, mine says "Phone Idle: 20%" (which is on top) and "Screen" is 4th on the list with 12% (Wi-Fi and Cell standby above it) [this is my personal phone, and I mostly use my work phone. hence the high Idle & standby]
I was having an issue with my phone running out of battery, with very little usage from it. I mean very little, I might make 2 calls from it each day, and respond to an email now and then. I found that an App was preventing my Screen from going into "Deep Sleep" or even "Sleeping" possibly. So I uninstalled all apps (well I only had like 4 additional apps installed), except for 2 that I need (Google Voice & Drive). Powered off the phone, charged it fully, then powered back on. Its been running on the same charge for 24+hrs now and reads 68% battery remaining.
So check the apps you have installed, some use background data, and might be causing problems...
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My android system has never been that high, regardless if I used the phone for 10 minutes or 10 seconds , or not at all.
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And your phone is the definitive guide for what Android OS usage is? Maybe his phone woke up those services for a period of time longer than normal.
The answer of "lol looks wrong root and install kernel" is terrible advice when so little information is given.
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What else would you like to know?
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What else would you like to know?
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A longer battery graph would help a lot. If yuppy want top search XDA there is a free app called better battery stats that will help you diagnose if something is running in the background eating battery or even if your phone I'd properly entering deep sleep.
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Better Battery stats and battery screenshots here
atw1927 said:
Better Battery stats and battery screenshots here
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See now it is much easier to see that you actually do have a problem and what it is. You have the wakelock problem as you can see from Better Battery Stats which falls under Android OS on the other screen. It also appears that you have somewhat weak signal which could cause the wakelock to drain battery even more. There's not much you can do about that wake lock, some kernels have patches for it but those have their own issues as well.
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Could I just install any kernel on stock android and be OK with it? As I've said I've no idea what's best for me; just something nice and clean that doesn't have issues like this. I live onsite where I work so my WiFi is pretty much on all the time if that helps in anyway whatsoever
I'm gonna let it run down completely tonight and charge it, but I don't expect it to help much.
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And your phone is the definitive guide for what Android OS usage is? Maybe his phone woke up those services for a period of time longer than normal.
The answer of "lol looks wrong root and install kernel" is terrible advice when so little information is given.
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I never told him to install a kernel. The advice I gave is to do a reset then I asked if he was rooted or running a custom rom or kernel because that might of been the problem.
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Fully charged overnight, battery still sinking like a ship. 45 minutes and I'm already down to 94% already!
Idiot question; will installing a kernel just solve this? For now as a new guy I'd like to keep it as stock as possible before fiddling with it.
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Fully charged overnight, battery still sinking like a ship. 45 minutes and I'm already down to 94% already!
Idiot question; will installing a kernel just solve this? For now as a new guy I'd like to keep it as stock as possible before fiddling with it.
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The battery on the n4 seems horrible.
I'm completely stock I just got my phone yesterday, I charged it to 100% now its at 64% battery with only 47 minutes of screen on time.
on the s3 I would be around 83% with 47 minutes of screen on time.
I'm gonna unlock the boot loader and root soon and try Franco kernel I've been reading good things about it.
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The battery life on the stock kernel isn't great because the CPU management isn't optimized well. It ramps up the CPU (frequency, number of active cores...) very easily and keeps it there long, which removes the occasional lag but sucks more battery. Flashing a more battery friendly kernel would definitely help you if that is the root of your battery issues and not a badly coded app.
Franco's kernel is a very popular one, and very battery friendly compared to stock (and that doesn't mean you lose performance). It is the one I'm currently using. Most people report of screen on times of 4 or 5 hours. With not so heavy usage and wifi (not 3g) I can also pass 5 hrs.
To install a kernel you need to unlock your boot loader and install a custom recovery. No need to root, but.. why not since you're at it
You can try different kernels with the stock ROM. You don't necessarily need a custom ROM. Just be careful to read the dev's OP and instructions, and definitely not to flash a kernel for another device.
Also another thing that reduces battery is your mobile data, if there are a lot of programs that sync on the background. You can use a program that turns off your mobile data when your screen is off and switch it back on just for a sync every xx minutes. Juice Defender is such app, though I like to use Tasker for that. If you use Tasker and are interested in that project, ask or send me a pm. It works great.

Only get ~2 hours of on screen time - "Android System" battery drain

I am on the latest 7.0 beta, T-Mobile version, I am getting pretty frustrated. I only get ~2 hours of on screen time. Right now at 30% and Android System has used 1350 mAh and CPU total is close to 5 hours.
Attached some pictures from yesterday and basically the same exact thing - maybe one of the packages listed is killing the battery?
I know there are a lot of posts about this issue but nothing that I've found useful unfortunatlely.
Did you try a factory reset? That help me get good battery life.
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Did you try a factory reset? That help me get good battery life.
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Been thinking about doing that, but not sure why it got really bad all of a sudden. I could get 3 to 4 hours before.
I think I'll wait until the official release is out and then do a reset - hopefully it comes out soon.
Still on 6.0.1 & Android System is my #1 battery drainer.
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Still on 6.0.1 & Android System is my #1 battery drainer.
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I am getting pretty fed up. Thought the new updates would make it better but no go for me.
If only you got root, I strongly recommend using Myandroidtools/disable service. Samsung roms sucks pretty bad, I have never ever experienced something like battery drain on other phones. Since I disabled 80+ Google Services and some samsung bloat, android system takes about 2-4% drain after a whole day. I am using Renovate on nougat.
Looks like a lot of you are very unlucky. My battery life is superb! At the end of the day I still have ~35% battery remaining. I recharge every night regardless of how much battery I have left, so it does me just fine
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If only you got root, I strongly recommend using Myandroidtools/disable service. Samsung roms sucks pretty bad, I have never ever experienced something like battery drain on other phones. Since I disabled 80+ Google Services and some samsung bloat, android system takes about 2-4% drain after a whole day. I am using Renovate on nougat.
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I would strongly advise to stay away from any of those 'fancy' package disablers.
They do no good and often deteriate things. I have on average over 8hours SOT and never used disablers.
Most Samsung apps don't put any drain on the battery. It's things like Facebook etc that hog resources.
Yeah, if only i got Facebook apps installed. I have fully working locations, notifications and other stuff - most of services I disabled are feedbacks, silent loggers and stuff I dont need or use. Only corrupted app is Gmail - which I don't use.
I got sync switched on, lots of calls, auto brightness, voice assistant and usually get 5 hours SOT during my usage which isn't bad at all.
So not sure what did it, but I installed Greenify and also changed from 1080p to 1440p and I get about 3ish hours on screen time. Still terrible but will do for now.
My phone also feels faster after changing resolution back to 1440p. So weird.
Disable ubication and always on display.
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Disable ubication and always on display.
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I use AOD all day, one of the reasons I got the phone. Not willing to part ways with it lol
ubication?
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I use AOD all day, one of the reasons I got the phone. Not willing to part ways with it lol
ubication?
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I mean location. Aod takes almost 40% of battery in 24 hours.
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I mean location. Aod takes almost 40% of battery in 24 hours.
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I remember Samsung saying it only consumes a couple a percentage points.
This article tested and it's nowhere near 40%. And I use the phone about 15 hours before it gets charged again so it should have a huge impact.
ww.techspot.com/amp/news/64162-tested-galaxy-s7-always-display-consumes-little-battery.html?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us
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I remember Samsung saying it only consumes a couple a percentage points.
This article tested and it's nowhere near 40%. And I use the phone about 15 hours before it gets charged again so it should have a huge impact.
ww.techspot.com/amp/news/64162-tested-galaxy-s7-always-display-consumes-little-battery.html?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us
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Okay, stop reading useless news and try it by yourself. Phone dont go fully in doze mode with AOD on and keeps light and other sensors on like proximity to put more or less light in the aod screen. You are complaining about **** battery and I am telling you that I have tested how aod can take 40% of battery in one day. You really believe samsung? Come on...
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Okay, stop reading useless news and try it by yourself. Phone dont go fully in doze mode with AOD on and keeps light and other sensors on like proximity to put more or less light in the aod screen. You are complaining about **** battery and I am telling you that I have tested how aod can take 40% of battery in one day. You really believe samsung? Come on...
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I really don't think you're right as that's not my experience either. I cited the article because usually the tech websites have some experience - my anecdotal data, or yours, doesn't carry much weight.
As posted before, my screen time has increased and keeps going up. Got near 4 hours of on screen time today. Greenify must have killed a process that was putting the CPU on overdrive and which showed up under Android System. I shouldn't have to take the time to find fixes however since Samsung and the Doze feature should be doing this already.
I appreciate your advice, no need to get upset we're just having a discussion...
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I really don't think you're right as that's not my experience either. I cited the article because usually the tech websites have some experience - my anecdotal data, or yours, doesn't carry much weight.
As posted before, my screen time has increased and keeps going up. Got near 4 hours of on screen time today. Greenify must have killed a process that was putting the CPU on overdrive and which showed up under Android System. I shouldn't have to take the time to find fixes however since Samsung and the Doze feature should be doing this already.
I appreciate your advice, no need to get upset we're just having a discussion...
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I don't really see a discussion in the fact that AOD uses a lot of battery if you keep it on all day, it's pretty much guaranteed that AOD is the main culprit. And your own experience with your phone and its settings is worth a lot more than the experiences from some tech website. Everyone's phone/settings is different.

high idle battery drain

So coming from a LG v30 to this I been experiencing high battery drain when leaving the phone idle (screen off) at night. I had left it at 24% and woke up with it having 7%. Anyone else having this issue. On the v30 I could leave it at 5% and it'll hold that charge until the next morning. Any ideas
You may have an app preventing deep sleep I left mine on the other night and only lost a few percent overnight
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You may have an app preventing deep sleep I left mine on the other night and only lost a few percent overnight
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Checked and says system was drain 24% since I slept
No idle drain issues for me. Started at 80% BTW. Must be an app or something on your end.
Are you rooted? I noticed Google News will occupy a lot of my battery even without using it. I've uninstalled it and have been okay ever since. Thing is a beast with battery.
To me it has to be an app issue. I can't believe how great my standby life has been so far.
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Are you rooted? I noticed Google News will occupy a lot of my battery even without using it. I've uninstalled it and have been okay ever since. Thing is a beast with battery.
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Not rooted, TMO version. system is a big one here check it out. Luckily dash charging is amazing
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Not rooted, TMO version. system is a big one here check it out. Luckily dash charging is amazing
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Would definitely recommend a factory reset. Rogue app maybe? I'm surprised to have someone run into this issue. Hope you can get it squared off and get the full battery potential of the device. Nice to see you here from the v30 forums! ?
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Would definitely recommend a factory reset. Rogue app maybe? I'm surprised to have someone run into this issue. Hope you can get it squared off and get the full battery potential of the device. Nice to see you here from the v30 forums! ?
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Wasn't trying to do that but why not, not like I haven't done this plenty of times with the v30(rom switching) ?

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