Is it the Right Time to buy a new Smartphone? - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I wanted to ask if it's worth buying another Note 4 within this year and 2018. I currently have the SM-N910H variant (Exynos), but I want to get one that's SM-N910F variant (Snapdragon). I found one that's about $480 but it's refurbished. Should I consider getting it or should I go for something else? Also forgot to mention that I have a spare ZeroLemon extended battery, since I have a TQTHL extended battery. So that's also why I want to get another Note 4 so I could put it to good use. Thanks In Advance.
Edit: Okay, so I wanted to revive this thread after a couple of months for any new insights on what smartphone to get. So far this year has been somewhat promising, with some disappointments about no headphone jacks and notches. But overall, I'm not sure if it's a good time to consider buying one or holding off till next year. I plan to get the Oneplus 5T during this summer, since the phone does seem like a worthy buy for about 400-500 dollars. I was also thinking about the note 8 or 9, but I don't want to sacrifice an arm and a leg for it. And I've lost faith in Huawei after their announcement about no more unlocked bootloaders. I know that there are plenty more to come, especially during the fall, but will it be worth the wait, since many new smartphones seem to follow the design of notches and no headphone jacks.

RetroSpect_17 said:
I wanted to ask if it's worth buying another Note 4 within this year and 2018. I currently have the SM-N910H variant (Exynos), but I want to get one that's SM-N910F variant (Snapdragon). I found one that's about $480 but it's refurbished. Should I consider getting it or should I go for something else? Also forgot to mention that I have a spare ZeroLemon extended battery, since I have a TQTHL extended battery. So that's also why I want to get another Note 4 so I could put it to good use. Thanks In Advance.
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480$ refurbished WTF ! In my country i just got refurbished note 4 snapdragon N910T and exynos N910L 2 devices in 280$:laugh:.
Note 4 is still good device but its kind of old now if your budget is 500$ i highly recommend you (one+5) its super fast device 8gb ram+snapdragon 835 dual rear camera etc or my second recommendation will be (s7 edge EXYNOS) excellent device all around.

Trex888 said:
480$ refurbished WTF ! In my country i just got refurbished note 4 snapdragon N910T and exynos N910L 2 devices in 280$:laugh:.
Note 4 is still good device but its kind of old now if your budget is 500$ i highly recommend you (one+5) its super fast device 8gb ram+snapdragon 835 dual rear camera etc or my second recommendation will be (s7 edge EXYNOS) excellent device all around.
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Thx for the info. I might consider about the OnePlus 5. Actually I did see a Note 4 Snapdragon SM-N910F on Amazon priced at about $268 but the condition of it was used.

RetroSpect_17 said:
I wanted to ask if it's worth buying another Note 4 within this year and 2018. I currently have the SM-N910H variant (Exynos), but I want to get one that's SM-N910F variant (Snapdragon). I found one that's about $480 but it's refurbished. Should I consider getting it or should I go for something else? Also forgot to mention that I have a spare ZeroLemon extended battery, since I have a TQTHL extended battery. So that's also why I want to get another Note 4 so I could put it to good use. Thanks In Advance.
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bro its to spensive $480, i bought mine on e-bay for $180 you need to search more, i am using sm-n910s(exy os) with nemesis_refined rom and it is very great

alfrecuba said:
bro its to spensive $480, i bought mine on e-bay for $180 you need to search more, i am using sm-n910s(exy os) with nemesis_refined rom and it is very great
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I did find one for about $268 dollars, however it has been used though. Also I'm mainly looking for a Snapdragon one since I have the Exynos one already. But I might consider browsing a bit on eBay instead of Amazon.

Personally I would rather get a N910C as the N910F isn't very stable and has a tendency to overheat.

Keeping in mind the eMMC issue that so many on the forums have faced, the refurbished or used Note 4 could be a ticking time bomb. Perhaps better to put your money towards a new phone or at least a phone which doesn't have a history of hardware failures.

i found a N910T on ebay new for 238.00 hopefully it is new. how can you tell if its been referbished? Im switching back from the I 6Splus and cant wait.

renegade681 said:
i found a N910T on ebay new for 238.00 hopefully it is new. how can you tell if its been referbished? Im switching back from the I 6Splus and cant wait.
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you can see it on ebay on the details of the phone,i baught my sm-n910s refurbished only for 189 usd and its works well

iceepyon said:
Personally I would rather get a N910C as the N910F isn't very stable and has a tendency to overheat.
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I don't know about the C version, but my F version, after a little more than 2.5 years, it overheats for sure. When this happens, it is impossible to use it until it cools down.
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uhi711 said:
I don't know about the C version, but my F version, after a little more than 2.5 years, it overheats for sure. When this happens, it is impossible to use it until it cools down.
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I can personally vouch for the N910C. As it runs on the more stable Exynos 5433 SOC.

I just keep rebuilding my note 4 once you get good at seperating the bezel without craking the screen . U can repair any internal issues without haveing to buy a new screen every time. All the new notes have stripped down features. I need my ir blaster and removable battery I don't want to dismantle the phone just to replace the battery each year.

I think this note 4 will be my last phone, simply of the battery removal, and can tack on a 10000mah battery on longer trips, not to mention if you compare the specs between NOTE 4 and the new Iphone X, Note 4 Wins in many categories especially the screen and camera areas, also compare the note 4 to the note 8. Specs are comparable for this 3 year old phone. Works very well. But to @[OP] $480 is bit much. I paid $100 for mine, and they are about 180ish or so around my area.

I'd avoid any Snapdragon-based Note 4s if I were you. Apart from the overheat issue, the Snapdragon variants also suffer from the infamous EMMC issue, which is a deal-breaker.

to me, exynos is the best choice

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to me, exynos is the best choice
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Except the fact snapdragon version have much more custom ROMs (nougat fully working including, + oreo to come). Well if you have account on xda... then you probably will count it like a big plus

gnomishe3 said:
Except the fact snapdragon version have much more custom ROMs (nougat fully working including, + oreo to come). Well if you have account on xda... then you probably will count it like a big plus
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Well that is true that Snapdragon does have a fully working port for nougat. But there is currently a developer who's working on porting nougat onto our Exynos devices. Many devs have given up on it but I feel like he might be the one to get it to work.

I'm still using using my 2.5+ years old n910c with a slightly newer battery and it never disappointed me so far .
Till today I haven't found any phone to be strictly better . All new phones have over note 4 are better SoC and Camera . But the new designs I don't like so much , not to mention luck of removable battery, SD cards, infrared , a proper load speaker etc.
The best upgrade for a note 4 would probably be note 8, but that's insanely priced so...
If you have the money you could get a Mate 9 and that would be a nice moderate upgrade too .

Is it a worthy time to buy a new Smartphone?
Okay, so I wanted to revive this thread after a couple of months for any new insights on what smartphone to get. So far this year has been somewhat promising, with some disappointments about no headphone jacks and notches. But overall, I'm not sure if it's a good time to consider buying one or holding off till next year. I plan to get the Oneplus 5T during this summer, since the phone does seem like a worthy buy for about 400-500 dollars. I was also thinking about the note 8 or 9, but I don't want to sacrifice an arm and a leg for it. And I've lost faith in Huawei after their announcement about no more unlocked bootloaders. I know that there are plenty more to come, especially during the fall, but will it be worth the wait, since many new smartphones seem to follow the design of notches and no headphone jacks.

Hello there. Totally worth it. Mine N910F is the best so far. Even G935F and G928F was my ex-phones and the only one pros was the 1h sot over my note 4 snapdragon.

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Interesting to see how few threads there are here

Only three so far, 2 of which are default. Is this going to be worse than the att Note 4 threads? Does it represent the basic apathy Samsung has induced?
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It means Samsung really screwed up
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It means Samsung really screwed up
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I think the problem is that they are flooding the market with too many similar devices. The group of people that this phone would appeal to recently bought the smaller model and can not upgrade yet. Luckily for me I am in my buyers remorse period. I am still not sure that I will buy this over the note 5.
i have galaxy s6 edge. i have family plan, i have upgrade available. There is NO "must-have" features that people want to buy this phone. where is the freaking usb 3.1 type c ? Since the screen is big like note4, why cant it displays Main and Edge screen at the same time like Note4 ?
so many ways samsung have messed up
1. Alienating buyers who buy a flagship - then a few weeks later another model comes out
2. prices
3. people want a sd card and bigger battery - and people wont mind extra thickness or better battery life
4. Competition - from other makers eg huawei -who do put in sd cards and decent batteries, and for the prices their
performance is more than decent. for a while notes strenght was the screen size but now others make big screens, AMOLED is not a USP
5. samsung getting cocky by thinking they have created a brand "note" and people will just go buy it....guess what samsung you arent apple!
6. no killer features eg motorola are putting in good batteries and good prices ...
i was upgrading phones yearly ever since the S2, all the way to S5, then the Note 4 last year, but don't think i'm gonna do it this year. i was really hoping they'd put the s pen on the edge+, but they had to separate them. i'm ok with no removable battery, I've had one on the note 4 ever since day one, but never really used it. i can live with no micro sd slot as well, but only if the 64gb version were less expensive, now the regular edge seems like a big bargain @ $750 for the 128gb (-$200 from T-Mobile). guess i'll have to wait until the note 6.
I think the biggest factors are Samsung divide the community with two phablets, there are some awesome phones coming out next month or so by google, and those with AT&T and Verizon learned a hard lesson with the note 4. Which is still yet to obtain permanent root ever...
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ekerbuddyeker said:
Only three so far, 2 of which are default. Is this going to be worse than the att Note 4 threads? Does it represent the basic apathy Samsung has induced?
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Samsung is not screwd up totally but its going be scrwed.
I think the biggest factor is that very few people have the phone yet.
Maybe it's because all of us Samsung Galaxy S6 Non-Edge users are afraid to post for fear we're in the wrong place!
Umm. Phone is Couple days old.

[DISCUSSION] Should I Jump Ship?

I've had my Galaxy Note 4 for a while now and I'm starting to look at a few of the new flagships for 2016. The Google Nexus 6P looks very promising to have and looks like a great device overall. There's also the HTC 10 which will be released soon which also looks promising and will get plenty of development I assume.
Would anyone care to share your story? Should I purchase a Google Nexus 6P or wait for this years line up?
If you want to convince me to stay on the Note 4 I encourage you.
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Dude it's up to you
Come get me donald trump
I am personally not leaving my Note 4 until it dies, or if the Note 6 brings back all the features I love that the Note5 **** on. I actually upgraded to the Note 5 and after 2 months decided it was not usable for me so I got a Note 4.
I personally can't live without 4 things the Note 4 has the Note 5 doesn't:
removable battery (Every phone I have owned in the past few years has been run with the ZeroLemon extended battery and rugged case)
MicroSD card slot (makes switching ROMs so much easier, I am a flashaholic)
IR Blaster (this one isn't as big as the other 2, but is still sooo nice to have and I see no reason any phone shouldn't have it)
Custom ROMs (The Note 5 being an Exynox only phone has not gotten any custom AOSP based ROMs yet, only stock based ROMs. Now, some of those ROMs are awesome, and even on my Note 4 I only run stock based ROMs because the AOSP ROMs don't work well enough with the SPen, but it is really nice to have the choice)
I would not buy the Nexus 6P, overall it looks like a good phone, but I am not the most gentle person with my phones, haven't broken one in a few years but I tend to drop them quite a bit and the 6P has some serious structural issues. Look up Jerryrigeverything's stress test video of the 6P on youtube. Huge disappointment for a Nexus device, and at that price.
I am confident the Note 6 will be too similar to the S7, no removable battery, possibly no IR blaster, it will probably have a similar style MicroSD card slot, but if it sucks like the S7 does, especially with the same style locked bootloader I will not be upgrading. The Note 4 is still an awesome phone, and we should be getting official MM within the next few weeks.
MisterCoolBeans said:
I've had my Galaxy Note 4 for a while now and I'm starting to look at a few of the new flagships for 2016. The Google Nexus 6P looks very promising to have and looks like a great device overall. There's also the HTC 10 which will be released soon which also looks promising and will get plenty of development I assume.
Would anyone care to share your story? Should I purchase a Google Nexus 6P or wait for this years line up?
If you want to convince me to stay on the Note 4 I encourage you.
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Wait for the One Plus 3. I'm keeping also my note 4 until it dies. Still a very good and reliable device for me.
Thank you guys for your responses!
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Mr. Clown said:
Wait for the One Plus 3. I'm keeping also my note 4 until it dies. Still a very good and reliable device for me.
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I update phones every year but since I considered the Note 5 a downgrade, I upgraded my Note 4 with another Note 4. I am no longer in the business if updating for the sake of updating. If the Note 6 doesn't bring back the SD card and IR blaster and be rootable [must have Viper4Android], I'll buy another Note 4. Samsung hit the sweet spot with the 4.
I used to update my phone all the time. But ever since Sammy turned its back on our community by locking the bootloaders (yeah yeah I'm sure it's the carriers fault don't care) I'll be sticking with my tmo note 4 running on att network. Note 6 looks cool but I need root and want the option to run custom roms. That and I need superior camera and for me note 4 is it. The new modular HTC phone looks interesting.
Mr. Clown said:
Wait for the One Plus 3. I'm keeping also my note 4 until it dies. Still a very good and reliable device for me.
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Is there really a OP3 in the making? The OP2 seems to have less of what was in the OPO
Just this morning I read an article on ArsTechnica (and as I glance to the right, apparently there's one to check out on the XDA Portal as well) on the next Nexus devices, reportedly to be built by HTC. I'd be pretty interested to see what those have to offer before upgrading my (still solid - the N4 is one device that I plan to keep rather than sell) phone. The 6P looks nice, but I'd be unwilling to sacrifice expandable storage... I'm hopeful that Google will allow(?) an SD slot in these upcoming devices due to N's new storage scheme.
Good luck whatever you decide!
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Is there really a OP3 in the making? The OP2 seems to have less of what was in the OPO
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Yes and it will be a good option tat it will not break the bank like the samsung phones. I'm considering to sell my note 4 and get me this beauty.
http://bgr.com/2016/04/26/oneplus-3-release-date-price/
Mr. Clown said:
Yes and it will be a good option tat it will not break the bank like the samsung phones. I'm considering to sell my note 4 and get me this beauty.
http://bgr.com/2016/04/26/oneplus-3-release-date-price/
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If these rumors are true I'll definitely hold on to my money for the OP3. I'd definitely purchase a 5.5 inch OP3. The specs are crazy.
MisterCoolBeans said:
If these rumors are true I'll definitely hold on to my money for the OP3. I'd definitely purchase a 5.5 inch OP3. The specs are crazy.
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I'm definitely waiting for this beast to come out. I've been a loyal fan of the galaxy series since the beginning, however the phones are too pricey and I need to explore other cheaper and reliable options in the future.
The Moto X Pure/Style is a 5.7" slim phone, same size as the Note 3 and Note 4.
Screen is as bright as the Note 4 in sunlight.
The bootloader is unlocked easily through Motorola and CM/AOSP ROM's are in abundance.
Phone works and is supported on all major carriers, including Verizon LTE.
Other than the Nexus 6P, it's really the only newer/good phone out that is 5.5" or larger screen size and has active development and works on ALL carriers.
I came from Note 3 and Note 4 and am happy with the phone.
Performance is about the same as Note 4 though.
I'm personally waiting to see what the next nexus looks like. Or I might jump on the HTC 10 if I get impatient. That should be a very ROM friendly phone
dkb218 said:
I update phones every year but since I considered the Note 5 a downgrade, I upgraded my Note 4 with another Note 4. I am no longer in the business if updating for the sake of updating. If the Note 6 doesn't bring back the SD card and IR blaster and be rootable [must have Viper4Android], I'll buy another Note 4. Samsung hit the sweet spot with the 4.
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I understand upgrading every year to a newer model, but why upgrade to the same phone? I am still on Note 4 I got through a pre-order and it works just fine. Just curious.
I've had (since Jan) LG G4, Nexus 6p, OnePlusOne, and my Note 4. All other ones didn't come close to the Note.
The 6p was good, but the shoddy build quality and limited storage was a deal breaker for me.
The G4 was great, but locked bootloader and lack of a fingerprint scanner was blah.
As far as phablets go, the Note 4 is still the best you can get.
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@MisterCoolBeans
Broad question but an interesting topic. Generally electronics and any other trades, there are years/releases/versions that hold value compared to years/releases/versions that are released as an illusion of an upgrade. Generally best value for the buck is to wait. Since from 1+ years you'll pay from 1/4 less to a fraction of retail. If your company pays for it it's another story. Look at any product/trade sold. New isn't always better, sometimes not just worse but actually costing you more than what use you get out of it. Advertisement/lies work thus advancement for centuries. If you are tempted by supposed improvement I say snap out of it & wait, rely on history. If you need a kick to approve your desire that might be foolish, go and have fun with her, since you won't keep in mind that not only will she bite u in the aa but might also shorten your human lifespan. All up to personal preference:angel:
Current(historical) example. I had s4 before n4. General consensus s5 & n5 is a downgrade. Again look at any other product you've acquired in the past(phones, cars, clothes, hardware, software, utilities, services, relationships, etc). There is a heart beat in your heart and scammers have the same rhythm. That is for centuries if you look at any available history.
Lastly is the reason. Why? To be more efficient and productive? Or to up your neighbor that you have the latest?
Can't control your mind's decision, have a coin choose a path for you easy, just flip it
Written with best wishes to you:good:
My original note 4 had water damage and considered jumping to s7 edge. Note 5 was out of the question. But I wasn't sure I could live without removable battery, SD card slot for my 200gb card, stylus, and lastly give up my IR which I use as my universal remote around the house. I had a feeling if I got an s7 edge I would be happy with it temporarily so I ended up getting another note 4. In my opinion, the note 4 is the Swiss army of all phones. I really love that about the note 4.
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My gf just got an S7, so like a good geek, I played around with it for a good chunk of time lol.
It's nice, there's no doubt about that, but I still prefer my Note 4
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I update phones every year but since I considered the Note 5 a downgrade, I upgraded my Note 4 with another Note 4. I am no longer in the business if updating for the sake of updating. If the Note 6 doesn't bring back the SD card and IR blaster and be rootable [must have Viper4Android], I'll buy another Note 4. Samsung hit the sweet spot with the 4.
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Why would you buy a new Note 4 3 years in a row? The Note 4 can surely last more than a single year without any issues.

Is it worth buying Nexus 6p?

Hello everyone
I've been waiting for Google since 4 months to announce something that suits my taste but they fail so bad.
i was leaning toward Note7 but even if they said that they fix battery issues this device already banned from all Airlines, at least they let you go in with it but you can't use.
Im using S6 im not satisfied with.
So it's worth buying it now?
btouareg said:
Hello everyone
I've been waiting for Google since 4 months to announce something that suits my taste but they fail so bad.
i was leaning toward Note7 but even if they said that they fix battery issues this device already banned from all Airlines, at least they let you go in with it but you can't use.
Im using S6 im not satisfied with.
So it's worth buying it now?
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If you were going for note 7,why not go for pixel. It would be same on price. 6P will be a lot cheaper than both. If you care about latest config, oneplus 3 is better deal in reasonable price.
saurabh40629 said:
If you were going for note 7,why not go for pixel. It would be same on price. 6P will be a lot cheaper than both. If you care about latest config, oneplus 3 is better deal in reasonable price.
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The answer i so easy The pixel XL Not worth 1000usd and note 7 worth the 850usd(i could tell you why if u want ) but in the other hand note7 explode even if say they fix it.
btouareg said:
The answer i so easy The pixel XL Not worth 1000usd and note 7 worth the 850usd(i could tell you why if u want ) but in the other hand note7 explode even if say they fix it.
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Then why not op3? development is huge which is almost non existent for note 7. I would have said 6p but op3 offers 820 chip with 6gb of ram.
saurabh40629 said:
Then why not op3? development is huge which is almost non existent for note 7. I would have said 6p but op3 offers 820 chip with 6gb of ram.
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i already have OP2 (work) smartphone, it's good smartphone, dual sim not bad screen (for sure i prefer the Samsung amoled screens, it seems i need to read more about OP3
Thanks dude

Just became eligible for device upgrade.. Love my A7, but the S8 is so tempting!

Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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I just looked at that link, and discovered that the s8 only has quick charge 2.0 and not 3.0. And the s8 has a worse battery so if you don't go with the larger one you'll have worse battery life.
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I just looked at that link, and discovered that the s8 only has quick charge 2.0 and not 3.0. And the s8 has a worse battery so if you don't go with the larger one you'll have worse battery life.
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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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Plus your losing speakers and a fully paid off phone.
Edit: And custom rom support (that isn't stock-based) so you're stuck with "samsung experience"
Edit 2: wait it's going to be at&t so no custom roms at all AND you pay double the money
TPMJB said:
What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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Here is what it says on the samsung website: (see attachment)
Also you get McAfee
TPMJB said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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I pay $50 a month for unlimited 4G LTE data. I average anywhere between 25-30GB of data usage every month.
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I have to agree with TPMJB, I think it would be a bad move. There was a nice offer to get a S8 on Amazon, but the differences are against the S8. The A7 has such a greater sound, greater battery, already a great screen, its CPU and GPU are more than enough for any game (but I don't play), 4GB RAM is also more than enough, ...
Why spending more to get less or something that's not yet needed?
TPMJB said:
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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awsomjgp said:
Plus your losing speakers and a fully paid off phone.
Edit: And custom rom support (that isn't stock-based) so you're stuck with "samsung experience"
Edit 2: wait it's going to be at&t so no custom roms at all AND you pay double the money
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ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
Plus with a paid off phone you can go pre-paid on major carriers. I pay $38.25 total monthly with no taxes/fees on AT&T (GoPhone, AT&T's in-house prepaid brand) for 6GB high speed data/unlimited calls/unlimited texts.
You can tell that's "pure" AT&T by the low ping speeds. MVNOs have higher ping speeds (higher lag).
But I bring my own phone, so I can get the pre-paid prices. I will never be "post paid" customer" where they rip you off.
I also make sure any phone I own can be rooted and have custom ROMs.
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The only thing the S8 has the ZTE Axon 7 lacks is the Qi wireless charging. Other than that, the 1-year old ZTE Axon 7 still beats the Samsung Galaxy 8 in every significant way (award winning DAC, front facing stereo speakers), etc.
If I were to get an S8, I would make sure it was the Exynos variant that could be rooted, surely NOT the AT&T branded model!
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ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
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but is there really a snapdragon gap? I mean, is our snappy already a has been? Serious question, not trying to start a flame war or anything
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but is there really a snapdragon gap? I mean, is our snappy already a has been? Serious question, not trying to start a flame war or anything
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I said "any" gap. I was just addressing the points listed. Where the Snapdragon 835 is different is allowing much faster carrier speeds (eventually), like 1GB LTE. Not that you'll see that any time soon. So, there's no rush to buy Snapdragon 835 phones until your carriers can deliver the speeds... But yes, the Snapdragon 835 and comparable (like Exynos) are an evolutionary step forward.
My point was, don't jump for the Galaxy S8 when there's LOTS more phones coming out in the next few months that will also have Snapdragon 835 and will be better than the S8, and probably less expensive. Including, but not least the ZTE Axon 8.
I still have a 2014 Snapdragon 805 phone. I'm not buying another phone until a manufacturer released a phone that has all the features I want, or very close to it. The ZTE Axon 7 came very close -- only the lack of Qi wireless charging kept me from buying it.
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Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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I was on the same boat until I had it physically on my and hand, and the design is sexy af, but honestly, that's all. I have always been away from Samsung devices because I hate capacitive buttons, and when Huawei (favorite brand) started to put them, I started to look for something else, and Samsung made the contrary move by remove them and improve the design.
Screen is more less the same, and you have to know that battery is noticeable worse when using the device in full resolution, because they come with FHD as default and most of the tests about battery were done with this resolution.
Speaker is average, but is mono. Is a big dealbreaker for me, because no point in having that nice display when you have a mono speaker, is just ruins the multimedia experience.
And the final thing for me to make me pass for the S8 was the fingerprint scanner, next to the camera is the most retarded place to put it, so pretty much is unusable for me.
Price is not important for me, fortunately I can buy any device I want, and I was going to buy the S8 until I had it on my hand. Also I was considering the P10 Plus, mostly because of the camera, but that capacitive button is just not that nice and gestures don't work correctly. I was playing like 10 minutes with it, and gestures were all buggy and not intuitive. Before that, I also had the Mate 9, but I returned it and came back to the Axon 7 because of the screen and sound, even when camera was slightly better.
In conclusion, I won't be changing the Axon 7 until I see a real contender to it. Real stereo speakers, nice battery, good display and decent camera are enough for me, which none of the devices released in 2107 have. In my opinion, exchanging the multimedia experience for a "better" design is not the best move to do.
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I said "any" gap. I was just addressing the points listed. Where the Snapdragon 835 is different is allowing much faster carrier speeds (eventually), like 1GB LTE. Not that you'll see that any time soon. So, there's no rush to buy Snapdragon 835 phones until your carriers can deliver the speeds... But yes, the Snapdragon 835 and comparable (like Exynos) are an evolutionary step forward.
My point was, don't jump for the Galaxy S8 when there's LOTS more phones coming out in the next few months that will also have Snapdragon 835 and will be better than the S8, and probably less expensive. Including, but not least the ZTE Axon 8.
I still have a 2014 Snapdragon 805 phone. I'm not buying another phone until a manufacturer released a phone that has all the features I want, or very close to it. The ZTE Axon 7 came very close -- only the lack of Qi wireless charging kept me from buying it.
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what I meant is that there is not really a gap, it's not like the 820 is so slow already that one NEEDS a 835. A real gap is something like a a notebook with an Atom and a real laptop with a Pentium or a Core.
So the S8 has a faster processor but not needed by any application around.
Beside, I've read so many times that the S8 screen is very fragile. One drop and...
What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower Android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
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What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
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Must be a good friend of Mase thats why, so unfortunate...
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What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower Android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
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My boy chrih steps into the ring and immediately delivers a knockout blow early into the first round.
LG V20 here, Samsung sucks. Don't buy any of their phones unless you want a bloated piece of **** that'll run like ass after a few weeks of usage and break more than iPhones.
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ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
Plus with a paid off phone you can go pre-paid on major carriers. I pay $38.25 total monthly with no taxes/fees on AT&T (GoPhone, AT&T's in-house prepaid brand) for 6GB high speed data/unlimited calls/unlimited texts.
You can tell that's "pure" AT&T by the low ping speeds. MVNOs have higher ping speeds (higher lag).
But I bring my own phone, so I can get the pre-paid prices. I will never be "post paid" customer" where they rip you off.
I also make sure any phone I own can be rooted and have custom ROMs.
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The only thing the S8 has the ZTE Axon 7 lacks is the Qi wireless charging. Other than that, the 1-year old ZTE Axon 7 still beats the Samsung Galaxy 8 in every significant way (award winning DAC, front facing stereo speakers), etc.
If I were to get an S8, I would make sure it was the Exynos variant that could be rooted, surely NOT the AT&T branded model!
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Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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There will be an Axon 8. The 7S is just an update for China, with Snadragon 821. It probably won't be released to other countries.
The AXON 7 was announced end of May last year, released in June. The previous flagship (2015) was middle of summer (announced July, released August). With the Snapdragon 835 situation could be June/July.
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Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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There will be an Axon 8. The 7S is just an update for China, with Snadragon 821. It probably won't be released to other countries.
The AXON 7 was announced end of May last year, released in June. The previous flagship (2015) was middle of summer (announced July, released August). With the Snapdragon 835 situation could be June/July.
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As far as I know, the Axon 8 will be the same device as the Axon 7S, and they will just change the name for international market.
It seems the real change maybe will come next year when they released the Gigabyte phone the showed earlier this year.

Switching from Exynos to Snapdragon, is it worth it?

Hi there, I have an Exynos S10 Plus 128GB that I just bought 3 days ago. Battery life on WiFi is kinda decent but on LTE it is not that great for a device that is pricey and sold as a flagship phone at all. And unfortunately for me I'll be travelling soon for college where I'll be using mainly LTE connection (No wifi at all) which is gonna make my life like hell.
Therefore I am considering ordering a Snapdragon variant and actually will jump to the 512GB one because I do not have a laptop regularly at my disposal to backup stuff and so on. So I would need the more storage to keep my all of my files and data comfortably.
Also for me the GCAM is a must because I am a guy that buys phones for the camera firstly.
What do you think? Is it worth it? Would thr Exynos improve in LTE battery consumption with updates?
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I am on ATT and started buying International Varients of the Galaxy devices after the S4, when rooting Snapdragon phones became virtually impossible. I followed that tradition and purchased a S10 Plus (G975F) and love it. Then I got my wife a Snapdragon ATT Varient S10 Plus (G975U) which obviously cannot be rooted.
From time to time, we change phones so I can see how the Snapdragon experience differs from the Exynos and I have to say, that in large part I do not miss the phone not being rooted very much at all when I am using it. AND the benefits of Enhanced LTE, Video Calling on LTE, WiFi Calling on ATT, and performance differences really make me wonder if I will buy a Snapdragon or Exynos when the note 10 comes out.
For the first time in almost 8 years I am seriously considering buying a phone that cannot be rooted...and if I do, I don't think I will miss rooting very much. So much has changed since when US phones from ATT and TMOBILE got locked bootloaders - there is not as many reasons today to consider rooting as there once were.
So, to your question about is it worth it ? Will Battery Life improve in the future with updates? I don't know - but for me, there seem to be plenty of reasons to justify getting the Snapdragon varient - if you can get buy without rooting - then I think Snapdragon is the best option....just my two cents.
If you can return it without issue, or sell for an extremely good price then I'd say yes. I've been closely looking at the comparisons between the two, Inc Gary explains it all too, and the SD seems to be more powerful and efficient. Generally.
Regarding the 512gb variant, given how much more costly, could you not buy a large USB to plug in instead?
Wouldnt an SD card be easier?
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Wouldnt an SD card be easier?
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Need to use 2 SIM cards unfortunately.
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If you can return it without issue, or sell for an extremely good price then I'd say yes. I've been closely looking at the comparisons between the two, Inc Gary explains it all too, and the SD seems to be more powerful and efficient. Generally.
Regarding the 512gb variant, given how much more costly, could you not buy a large USB to plug in instead?
128 or 256 gb usb?
I would stick to the Exynos just because I cannot see myself on a phone I paid near $1000 and I can't root. Using Titanium backup and systemwide add blocking are too important for me to give up. It just depends on your priorities. In my case, I refuse to encourage bootloader lockdown by buying one.
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