Hi all Samsung Galaxy S8 users, I'm currently going to purchase a new device as my daily driver. However, I'm wondering if I should purchase Oneplus 5 or S8.
Oneplus 5 is using OOS which is a slightly modified AOSP rom which I will surely love but the S8's screen is really gorgeous and more 2017-ish.
I'm curious about the long-term performance of S8, since S8 is using TouchWiz which is a heavily skinned version of Android and is notorious for its instability such as force close on apps/random reboots/random stutters and so on as well as performance drawback.
I'm looking for a device which is capable of gaming, fluid UI and last me a day with mixed usage. Since there's no LOS available for the S8 yet, I will have to debloat the ROM if I purchased it so I'm looking forward to anyone's comments regarding the performance improvement(if there's any) after debloating the S8.
So for those who have used S8 for months, what's your thoughts? Do you regret buying this phone? Will you buy an Oneplus 5(any other phone) instead if you were given another chance?
**My location's S8 will be an Exynos version.
**Currently using Oneplus One
Thanks in advanced for every comment.
**** If there is any Chinese users here, I wonder how's the 王者荣耀 (Chinese version of Mobile Legend) runs on this phone?
First off, I have the Exynos version. While the S8 is my first Android phone, I have never had any issues whatsoever with Touchwiz. I've maybe once had an app crash, never had random reboots and the stutters are only present in apps such as the Play Store where content is loaded as you browse. Performance is absolutely amazing. I always hestitated going Android because of the issues you are describing, but I absolutely don't regret switching over. The UI is as fluid as it can be, games are smooth, battery is fine (I'm not a heavy user but I can use my phone for 2 days before having to charge). Debloating the S8 would mostly be getting rid of Bixby and carrier apps. Other than that there aren't too many things to remove imo. From what I've read, many people that complain about Touchwiz being unstable are people that mess with Package diablers while not knowing properly what to disable. This causes weird issues, stutter, lag and whatnot. I can't tell you whether it used to be bad of my own experience cause I've never really used a Samsung phone before. Imo the S8 is one of the best devices around, for a reasonable price. If future Samsung phones will continue to be as good, I will upgrade without a second thought.
ImbaWind said:
Hi all Samsung Galaxy S8 users, I'm currently going to purchase a new device as my daily driver. However, I'm wondering if I should purchase Oneplus 5 or S8.
Oneplus 5 is using OOS which is a slightly modified AOSP rom which I will surely love but the S8's screen is really gorgeous and more 2017-ish.
I'm curious about the long-term performance of S8, since S8 is using TouchWiz which is a heavily skinned version of Android and is notorious for its instability such as force close on apps/random reboots/random stutters and so on as well as performance drawback.
I'm looking for a device which is capable of gaming, fluid UI and last me a day with mixed usage. Since there's no LOS available for the S8 yet, I will have to debloat the ROM if I purchased it so I'm looking forward to anyone's comments regarding the performance improvement(if there's any) after debloating the S8.
So for those who have used S8 for months, what's your thoughts? Do you regret buying this phone? Will you buy an Oneplus 5(any other phone) instead if you were given another chance?
**My location's S8 will be an Exynos version.
**Currently using Oneplus One
Thanks in advanced for every comment.
**** If there is any Chinese users here, I wonder how's the 王者荣耀 (Chinese version of Mobile Legend) runs on this phone?
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I own a S8+ for months and in my opinion you should buy a OP5! Less money and a really nice comunity support with custom roms and kernels, .... thats all for less money. You´ll get the fastet device on earth at this moment. All things Samsung sells are to expensive for that money they want... Some of my friends own a OP5 and I really enjoy to play with that phones. Mine and their are rootet and debloated
I do recommend S8. I'm coming from LG v10 which was 5.7 size. S8 is 5.8 but it is smaller due to nearly frame less screen. Now I'm mad at myself I didn't buy S8+...
Regarding the OP5. I've heard it's not that much of improvement of OP3T. Also, the camera is not as good as in Samsung. Just watch comparison videos or photos.
My vote: go for S8+. S8 feels like 5.3 inch. I think s8+ will be like 5.7. And trust me, watching movies on this gorgeous display is worth the extra money. You won't be disappointed. I've heard that Samsung lowered S8 and S8+ prices to attract the new Iphone lovers.
Cheers!
You can get s8 almost same price as op5 .so many deals going on. I'm enjoying my s8 plus avgrat battery after using 4 month it's going strong never had profirmance issue it's smooth as buttery .
Best camera best screen best look. Speaker is loud. I recommend buying s8 plus but if it's big for u s8 is good too
Ok, short answer, we have a OnePlus 3 and the person using it is not gonna buy a future release. The phone is fine and all that, but he isn't impressed or satisfied by it either.
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Purchased both of them beginning of this month.
OP5 came earlier, so I had some time to use it as a daily phone. Very nice and speedy phone. Everything looked very good, and I thought it would be excellent successor to my previous Oneplus x, which I liked more than a year long (actually still like it).
Then came the Samsung S8. It was not so easy to switch from vanilla Android regarding overall settings , but at the end I liked the Samsung add-ons in Settings, sicne it's really very well organized.
To sum up the reason why I sold OP5 and am now very happy with S8:
S8 is more compact, especially the width of the phone makes it easier to handle one handed.
The Samsung screen is absolutely fantastic, and in direct sunlight waaay better then OP5.
Despite not having two cameras, photos on the S8 are much better, and video recording in low light is incomparable. S8 has OIS!
This phone has a lot more options (features), which I found really useful - like: Bluetooth 5 (nice when you have more then one device connected i.e. external speaker and
BT headset). HDR video support and a lot of options to set the color temperature of the display. Water resistance and wireless charging are also important to me.
There are however some things I needed to change to be satisfied with S8, and luckily it was quite easy. I replaced the phone dialer and contacts applications with stock one from Google.
And - definitely a drawback in S8 compared to OP5 is the screen width, so you will have less information on the screen regarding one line, but more of them are present since the display is much taller.
Regarding pricing, I bought the S8 (new) on ebay for 535EUR and OP5 costs 499EUR. so there is not much difference at this moment.
My 2cents.
Appreciate every comment, thanks!
jonny908 said:
I do recommend S8. I'm coming from LG v10 which was 5.7 size. S8 is 5.8 but it is smaller due to nearly frame less screen. Now I'm mad at myself I didn't buy S8+...
Regarding the OP5. I've heard it's not that much of improvement of OP3T. Also, the camera is not as good as in Samsung. Just watch comparison videos or photos.
My vote: go for S8+. S8 feels like 5.3 inch. I think s8+ will be like 5.7. And trust me, watching movies on this gorgeous display is worth the extra money. You won't be disappointed. I've heard that Samsung lowered S8 and S8+ prices to attract the new Iphone lovers.
Cheers!
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Thanks for your reply! I'd prefer smaller one tho, looks like easier to navigate through the screen.
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I own a S8+ for months and in my opinion you should buy a OP5! Less money and a really nice comunity support with custom roms and kernels, .... thats all for less money. You´ll get the fastet device on earth at this moment. All things Samsung sells are to expensive for that money they want... Some of my friends own a OP5 and I really enjoy to play with that phones. Mine and their are rootet and debloated
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Thanks for your comment! In my country, if I want to buy the top spec OP5 from official retailer vs S8, it's only about 100 USD difference. And yeah, OP5 community support is better but I'd rather stick to one stable rom than flashing possibly bugged open betas etc. So what's your experience with S8? Do you enjoy using it? How it differs from OP5 in terms of performance after debloating/custom rom etc?
I'd get it again. If I had more time, I might have figured out how to get an Exynos model, but I also probably wouldn't have noticed the difference. I'm happy with my pre-order 256 GB card.
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I'd get it again. If I had more time, I might have figured out how to get an Exynos model, but I also probably wouldn't have noticed the difference. I'm happy with my pre-order 256 GB card.
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So you think Exynos version is better over the SD version?
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So you think Exynos version is better over the SD version?
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Exynos is always the better one, in every Samsung variant. Also I think Exynos version of S8 was the first to be rooted, Snap had some issues.
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So you think Exynos version is better over the SD version?
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I've always heard it's a bit snappier. You also usually have more options for stable root if you want to go that direction.
It's a little bit faster and the bootloader can be opend easy!
I was also on the same boat, bought s8 never looked back.
No lags at all, superb battery life, no heating issues, basically everything i feared that i would see are gone. But i bought this even more for the resale value.
When oneplus decides to take things seriously i will spend my money on them, till then samsung all the way up.
If i were to decide again now however i would seriously consider lg v30.
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So I'm kind of in a dilemma to get a a Oneplus 2 and selling my Galaxy s6 for it.
Regarding the specs and software experience, do you think that trading my Galaxy S6 for a 64gb Oneplus 2 is a good long-term idea?
I sold my gs6 and got the oneplus 2, no regrets so far. I mainly did it because I don't like touchwiz. I like using close to stock Android software. Battery life on gs6 sucks as well, much better on op2. Build quality is definitely better on the gs6 but aside from that this phone tops it in every way for me.
dzaster89 said:
I sold my gs6 and got the oneplus 2, no regrets so far. I mainly did it because I don't like touchwiz. I like using close to stock Android software. Battery life on gs6 sucks as well, much better on op2. Build quality is definitely better on the gs6 but aside from that this phone tops it in every way for me.
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yeah, even with the COI9 build of the S6, Touchwiz is shiity due to some stutterting with it's UI. If only there would be a CM build for this lol
I'm really in the verge of getting the oneplus 2, but there is also a part of me choosing between the Nexus 6P. what do you think, disregarding the price?
Go for 6P if you don't need dual sim.
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So I'm kind of in a dilemma to get a a Oneplus 2 and selling my Galaxy s6 for it.
Regarding the specs and software experience, do you think that trading my Galaxy S6 for a 64gb Oneplus 2 is a good long-term idea?
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After having the S6, Note 5 and OP2 I would never leave an S6 for an OP2. The only reason I keep the OP2 is for the hope of an official CM build, that's all. If the S6 battery life is too poor for you to put up with THEN I would do it, that's the only reason. I don't like Oxygen OS particularly and after using the S6 the OP2 feels laggy to me. I would download package disabler from the app store for the S6 as it really helps improve battery life. I didn't have a problem with the S6's battery life, especially with quick charge. Obviously it may not meet your needs though since we're all different. Just my two cents.
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After having the S6, Note 5 and OP2 I would never leave an S6 for an OP2. The only reason I keep the OP2 is for the hope of an official CM build, that's all. If the S6 battery life is too poor for you to put up with THEN I would do it, that's the only reason. I don't like Oxygen OS particularly and after using the S6 the OP2 feels laggy to me. I would download package disabler from the app store for the S6 as it really helps improve battery life. I didn't have a problem with the S6's battery life, especially with quick charge. Obviously it may not meet your needs though since we're all different. Just my two cents.
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quite unusual to see from someone that the OP2 is lagging. Anyway, I also have the same reason why I'm considering the OP2 or Nexus 6p, because of the CM or near stock experience. I've recently installed some Custom roms in the S6, that fixed the touchwiz lag but not the ram management. I'm also waiting if there would be AOSP roms for the s6.
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quite unusual to see from someone that the OP2 is lagging. Anyway, I also have the same reason why I'm considering the OP2 or Nexus 6p, because of the CM or near stock experience. I've recently installed some Custom roms in the S6, that fixed the touchwiz lag but not the ram management. I'm also waiting if there would be AOSP roms for the s6.
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its very common for oxygenos to be laggy, coming from nexus 5 6.0 update, oxygenos with all this hardware is still no match in smoothness, they have ways to go. of course just waiting for the cyanogenmod to become official then you can kiss the lagg bye bye. tested the beta, and it is fantastic. hydrogenos is currently faster and almost lag free compared to oxygen.
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its very common for oxygenos to be laggy, coming from nexus 5 6.0 update, oxygenos with all this hardware is still no match in smoothness, they have ways to go. of course just waiting for the cyanogenmod to become official then you can kiss the lagg bye bye. tested the beta, and it is fantastic. hydrogenos is currently faster and almost lag free compared to oxygen.
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I have the latest OOS installed + AK kernel v15, and I see no lag whatsoever. Browsing through the UI is as smooth as it can get + battery life is amazing.
I did just that ,today is my first day with the oneplus 2 .I cant get over how heavy it is !.battery life seems a little better but I am not getting 4G which might be contributing to the battery life .I have to say that the S6 feels far more polished than the OPT over all ,the OPT reminds me of the days when I used custom ROMs where you encounter a few glitches here and there (not connecting to my wifi for instance ).
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So I'm kind of in a dilemma to get a a Oneplus 2 and selling my Galaxy s6 for it.
Regarding the specs and software experience, do you think that trading my Galaxy S6 for a 64gb Oneplus 2 is a good long-term idea?
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The GS6 has one of the best camera's available on any phone today, but the OP2 isn't that far behind (with some software improvements it could potentially equal it). If you hate Touchwiz as much as I do, then trade it in. If you don't, then don't.. Because the GS6 is truly a fantastic device if you like a phone that just works. It's basically the iPhone of Android devices.
zaki67 said:
I did just that ,today is my first day with the oneplus 2 .I cant get over how heavy it is !.battery life seems a little better but I am not getting 4G which might be contributing to the battery life .I have to say that the S6 feels far more polished than the OPT over all ,the OPT reminds me of the days when I used custom ROMs where you encounter a few glitches here and there (not connecting to my wifi for instance ).
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If you can live without a fingerprint scanner for a while you should give Exodus a try. I cannot recommend it highly enough!
shigi1231 said:
quite unusual to see from someone that the OP2 is lagging. Anyway, I also have the same reason why I'm considering the OP2 or Nexus 6p, because of the CM or near stock experience. I've recently installed some Custom roms in the S6, that fixed the touchwiz lag but not the ram management. I'm also waiting if there would be AOSP roms for the s6.
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It's actually not unusual at all. Use literally any other current flagship phone and then go back to the OP2. Stock vs stock it's noticeable. I'd wait till the S6 gets marshmallow to make your determination if you can. Hardware-wise I think the S6 is better and that being the case, you can update software but you can't change hardware.
I hear there was a new update for the camera of the OP2 fixing the auto laser focus with filming videos
How's the display of the device? Is the 1080P LCD display not that farfetched from SUPERAMOLED?
Considering the SoCs of both Nexus 6P and OP2, do you think that the 64gb (with 4 gb of ram) would provide more RAW power than the nexus 6p?
I went from GS6 to a oneplus 2. I originally kept the GS6 and sold the Oneplus 2, but later changed my mind and bought a new Oneplus 2. (I don't understand all the whining about not being able to buy one!)
Here is why:
My main complaint regarding the OP2 is its size. The S6 is sleek and lightweight. When it comes to having one of the two in a pocket...I much prefer the size of the S6. But, phones aren't made for sitting in our pockets, are they? Also, I find the vibrating motor on the OP2 is lower quality than the one on the S6 and so I leave it turned off because it annoys me. The vibrating seems to slow down the use of the keyboard to me as well. I also don't find the quality of accessories like cases to be as good for OP2 as the GS6.
On the other hand:
I don't mind the lack of NFC because I don't keep a phone unrooted long enough to use Android Pay anyway. I think Oneplus realized most of it's users would be in that boat. I also don't mind the lack of quickcharging because I just plug in my phone everynight and I have a 15,000mAh battery charger that bought just in case, but I have used exactly 0 times. Despite all of the horror stories on these forums, I have stock Oxygen and stock kernel and get to the end of every day with about 75% charge left.
I think the TW on GS6 is fine, but I honestly prefer the stock experience. I found the camera on the GS6 to be better, but I would ALWAYS choose my DSLR for any serious video or photo of either and I don't find it $150 dollars better (The actual price difference if you watch for deals on websites such as Slickdeals).
I hear all sorts of whining about the quality of the hardware being less on Oneplus 2, but in the past half year I have owned 3 GS6 devices and two of them had to be sent in for RMA warranty. I have owned 2 Oneplus 2's and they were both without any faults. Also, if you think that Oneplus has software issues, you should see all the whining over on the S6 forums about the software problems. Samsung is arguably the most advanced android maker out there and still regularly have software issues! Samsung does not support the Dev community and takes every action to prevent any software modification (Ever heard of a Knox?). Oneplus has limitations on what they are able to provide the community with regard to drivers, but does what it can.
I used the fancy features like heartbeat sensor and pulse ox a total of once just out of curiosity...never found a need to use it ever again. The same goes for the remote control. It is a neat feature, but I would prefer to use my regular remote.
I also can't see the point in using Android Pay because it seems like half of all retailers out there still make me pull out my wallet to show my ID. Basically, at this point the Android Pay is about the same level of novelty as a 4k screen on a 40 inch TV and I'm fine without it. I can't drive anywhere without my wallet because it has my license, so I might as well carry a card in there too. If I go to a restaurant, I'm not going to hand a $400 to $650 device to the waiter to pay for my food.... With all of it's limitations, Android Pay just isn't THAT much of a convenience. So, I will choose to root my phone and do without out it whether the device has NFC or not.
The GS6 Super OLED is beautiful, but comes with drawbacks. One main problem is that they suffer from burn-in. I had one device that I couldn't stand using because it developed a severe burn in from having a background similar to the "never settle" on the OP2 that left words visible on the back of the device. The burn in occurred after a couple days of heavy use of the device and was permanent. Samsung will not fix that problem on warranty...they see it as your fault. IPS does not have this problem. With regard to battery use I don't think that the benefits of OLED outweigh the significantly larger battery on the OP2. Also, I should mention that I have a smartwatch so I could care less about features like having alerts popup on the display, but I doubt that this really consumes a lot more energy on the IPS displays than the OLED displays. I believe that more energy is probably being consumed in the wakelock anyway from those sort of events and really don't want my screen turning on to tell me about new alerts either way. I saw a fancy graph somewhere about how OLED really doesn't use that much less energy compared to IPS with LED anyway, and can actually use more in certain cicumstances.
I find that the larger real estate of the 5.5 inch screen on the OP2 is a better size compared to the S6 in my experience and don't appreciate any decrease in quality in the 1080p vs 2k.
The S6 and Oneplus 2 are both pretty lag-free experiences. I do like having the 64gb of space compared to the 32 on my S6, but the OP2 seems to run with about 2GB or RAM free, so the 4GB or RAM is probably overkill. The S6 on the otherhand is bloated beyond belief and uses every bit of the 3GB of RAM. Anyone who has spent time on the S6 part of xda has seen tons of complaints about this. Meanwhile, OOS isn't perfect, but it does remain a bloat free experience.
Importantly, the dev support for OP2 is much better and we really owe these guys like Grarak and AK for all their hard work. Dev support for the S6 is very limited. CM will probably never be available for the S6 because it uses the Exynos.
I never had a problem with using the physical home button on the S6, but after using the home button on the OP2, I found that I was annoyed everytime I had to actually press down on that physical button on the S6. I don't know why, but it really bugged me.
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After having the S6, Note 5 and OP2 I would never leave an S6 for an OP2. The only reason I keep the OP2 is for the hope of an official CM build, that's all. If the S6 battery life is too poor for you to put up with THEN I would do it, that's the only reason. I don't like Oxygen OS particularly and after using the S6 the OP2 feels laggy to me. I would download package disabler from the app store for the S6 as it really helps improve battery life. I didn't have a problem with the S6's battery life, especially with quick charge. Obviously it may not meet your needs though since we're all different. Just my two cents.
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I was pretty much going to say the same thing said here......So I'll just +1 this.
Ok, I have to say a little more...
I like my OP2, the build is nice and it's a premium looking phone.....But I've only had it a month and have had several small, annoying bugs pop up over that time and a couple that required a full factory reset. I had my S6 for a couple months and had no real issues. I almost feel the OP2's software wasn't ready for release, but they went ahead and released it anyways. As bloated as the S6 is, it's a smooth and snappy user experience IMO. TouchWiz has really slimmed down from the S3 days too and I actually liked it as well as my go-to launcher, Nova. I hate saying that, because I generally don't like big corporate companies like Samsung, but they don't have one of the most popular phones in the world for no reason. But for the money, I was willing to take a chance on the OP2 as I'm sure development will be better in a few months and even the stock ROM will become more stable over time.
To what I see from everyone I think I can deduce like this:
Oneplus 2: DEV FRIENDLY (i cant emphasis enough how this is very important to me lol), can go toe to toe with the Exynos chip, better stock experience (Cyanogenmod is coming quickly), due to camera software updates OP2 camera is decent, build quality is premium, battery is good, better RAM
Galaxy S6: build is super premium but can be so greasy due to the glass back and front, Exynos chip is good, TouchWiz is decent, NFC, wireless charging, QHD but can be a set back due to battery
The S6 has been months out now, and it would seem there are no Developers working or at least having good progress on a AOSP rom.
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I was pretty much going to say the same thing said here......So I'll just +1 this.
Ok, I have to say a little more...
I like my OP2, the build is nice and it's a premium looking phone.....But I've only had it a month and have had several small, annoying bugs pop up over that time and a couple that required a full factory reset. I had my S6 for a couple months and had no real issues. I almost feel the OP2's software wasn't ready for release, but they went ahead and released it anyways. As bloated as the S6 is, it's a smooth and snappy user experience IMO. TouchWiz has really slimmed down from the S3 days too and I actually liked it as well as my go-to launcher, Nova. I hate saying that, because I generally don't like big corporate companies like Samsung, but they don't have one of the most popular phones in the world for no reason. But for the money, I was willing to take a chance on the OP2 as I'm sure development will be better in a few months and even the stock ROM will become more stable over time.
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OK, I like the OP2 a lot.....for the money. It's a great phone for the money. You can't spend this "little" and expect a lot more. The screen is NOWHERE near as good as any recent AMOLED. To anyone claiming burn in is still an issue, I say that's overblown. I've had more phones than I care to even admit to and I've had burn in only once. That was with the N6 and that was an older Samsung panel. The op2 screen looks nice enough with no other phone as a reference. Put it next to any recent samsung and you see how washed out the OP2 panel looks. That being said. This phone is NOT a flagship killer, its simply a really, REALLY good phone...for the money. If this phone made by Samsung ppl would be up in arms about its shortcomings. But bc its made by an obscure Chinese company that makes ridiculous marketing claims we all buy in to a degree. Again, I love the phone. It's great..for the money. Don't expect perfection and you'll be happy with it.
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OK, I like the OP2 a lot.....for the money. It's a great phone for the money. You can't spend this "little" and expect a lot more. The screen is NOWHERE near as good as any recent AMOLED. To anyone claiming burn in is still an issue, I say that's overblown. I've had more phones than I care to even admit to and I've had burn in only once. That was with the N6 and that was an older Samsung panel. The op2 screen looks nice enough with no other phone as a reference. Put it next to any recent samsung and you see how washed out the OP2 panel looks. That being said. This phone is NOT a flagship killer, its simply a really, REALLY good phone...for the money. If this phone made by Samsung ppl would be up in arms about its shortcomings. But bc its made by an obscure Chinese company that makes ridiculous marketing claims we all buy in to a degree. Again, I love the phone. It's great..for the money. Don't expect perfection and you'll be happy with it.
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I just RMA'ed a S6 with burn in and got my replacement today which I plan to sell. So, it still happens and on my device it didn't take much. I hadn't had any problems with any of my prior AMOLED screens I would have agreed with you, but I used a background pic from the S6 promotional material that said "Six Appeal". After removing the background I could see the words any time I had a grey or white background... such as anytime I used XDA. Fortunately for me, the phone had a camera defect and I was able to RMA it. Regarding the burn in, they basically just said "too bad". Considering I just finished dealing with the issue, this is probably why I am so sensitive to it being a concern.
BTW, as mentioned, I have both phones and think the S6 screen is only minimally better after adjusting screen settings on the OP2. I have both of them in front of me right now. I will say, the default screen settings for the OP2 don't help the first impression and I originally thought it was very washed out comparatively.
As a point of mention just for anyone out there new to the technologies: burn in will always be a potential design risk with AMOLED technology. As any pixel is used it will wear ever so slightly. The rate of wear may improve in future generations, but the wear itself is an inherent part of the technology. The good news is that if you are careful, you can probably avoid the problem for the most part. Static parts of the screen with high contrast like the top bar are at risk because they often have the same pixels being used.
Also, "Super AMOLED" isn't actually any better than an AMOLED from the standpoint of screen quality. It is just Samsung's made up term for when they fuse a digitizer into the display vs having it as a separate layer. The underlying display is still the same.
Silvers91 said:
I have the latest OOS installed + AK kernel v15, and I see no lag whatsoever. Browsing through the UI is as smooth as it can get + battery life is amazing.
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I have the same installed, a stock nexus 5 with the official 6.0 firmware is much smoother. you'd say the UI is lag free, for the most part that's true, but once you open an app it takes a bit of time for the app to actually load, where in android 6.0 of nexus 5 you don't see that. none the less, the phone is fantastic, just needs some more working on before they can actually call it a well built stock firmware.
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I have the same installed, a stock nexus 5 with the official 6.0 firmware is much smoother. you'd say the UI is lag free, for the most part that's true, but once you open an app it takes a bit of time for the app to actually load, where in android 6.0 of nexus 5 you don't see that. none the less, the phone is fantastic, just needs some more working on before they can actually call it a well built stock firmware.
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I agree with you, I had a Nexus 5 but I sold it right before Marshmallow was released for it, but even with 5.1.1 it was smooth as hell, I'm yet to see a phone that is as smooth as the Nexus 5.. OnePlus 2 just needs some time to get the right software, it was only released 3 months ago anyway.
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I agree with you, I had a Nexus 5 but I sold it right before Marshmallow was released for it, but even with 5.1.1 it was smooth as hell, I'm yet to see a phone that is as smooth as the Nexus 5.. OnePlus 2 just needs some time to get the right software, it was only released 3 months ago anyway.
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agreed, OP needs to completely debloat their software, make it completely stock, optimize it, then add extra features to it. a rom that's 1.1GB in size tells you quite a lot vs the cyanogenmod .4GB. They need to take it from ground up to even match cyanogenmod in terms of performance and UI experience. I mean look at nexus 5, no matter what rom you put in it, the stock one was always better, smoother UI, better performance, at one point installing a custom kernel made the phone unstable and killed battery life faster.
right off the bat, OP2 users started installing AK kernel to eliminate lagg issues and battery life issues. What does that tell us? the underlying software is not very good, the kernel probably does lots of wasteful debugging and 2 cores almost always offline. The idea is there, but the implementation of the idea seems like to have "workarounds" rather than actual redesigning of the code to coop with the ROM's needs. I mean no one even bothered to create a custom ROM based on the official ROM. The first things that came out for the nexus was the custom ROM based on the official sources.
I'm sorry OP2, but nexus 5 was the real flagship killer, I still have the phone (though had to replace the power button). battery life was good for me, lasted 17-20 hours. Hopefully OP can start to understand that user requests and bug reports should not be worked with using the "workaround" style, but instead to fix issues from the foundation of the ROM, optimize it then release it. Maybe they can release a lightweight version, or a stock AOSP version with everything functional. CM will probably beat them to it at this rate.
Would anyone here with an s7 edge Exynos variant consider switching to a oneplus 3 and why ?
No way LOL
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NVR think of it
It is like a downgrade, not an upgrade. You lose the waterproof ness, the superb camera screen and the sd. You will only have 6GB ram (not all of them are actually usable. It is a placebo)
Its more of a sidegrade, lol!
It has some aspects that people would consider switching for.
Like the 6GB of RAM. AOSP support. Snapdragon CPU (maybe)
If its going to be like the OPO it will have a great development userbase. And alot of development roms.
Move from a QHD screen on the S7 to an old HD screen on the Oneplus? Never.
After reading Anandtech's analysis of the display on the OnePlus 3, it's a no-go for sure....
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10411/the-oneplus-3-review/4
TLR, noticeable pentile matrix (hello 2010), horrible color accuracy (worst they've seen since doing display testing on phones).
Of course, I use my Gear VR quite a bit so that immediately rules out the OnePlus 3. No microSD storage also doesn't help me.
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Surely not. Why would anyone want to loose the features that make the 7 series what it is?!
However, I am considering changing my P9000 for the OP3 but I am waiting to see if they can sort the display out somewhat first? - The P9000 has the best display of any phone I have seen
Its only the camera that could be better.
I hang on to my S7E until I see what Samsung come out with next.
The only good quality about the oneplus 3 is the unlocked bootloader and large development community. I've read the anandtech review and the screen seems like a big disappointment but most other reviews seem to think it's a pretty good one which is confusing lol
I'm looking for Samsung hardware with stock Android and so far this phone doesn't exist.
IMHO compared to the S7 Edge the Oneplus 3 is overall inferior in many hardware aspects.
Pros:
64GB internal memory
6GB RAM (but currently poorly managed without applying a fix...)
Type-C USB
Cons:
less LTE bands
worse AMOLED screen (and non-edge)
worse camera quality
worse flash and autofocus
no microSD card
no heart rate and SpO2 sensors
worse battery
worse fast charging (Oppo's based and not standard)
no wireless charge
no water resistance
and IMHO the Exynos 8890 is better then the Qualcomm 820...
Oneplus 3 price is attractive, but you get what you pay for.
However unfortunately IMHO the S7 Edge is still overpriced...
It would be a downgrade, I don't know anyone dumb enough to do that
i have ordered one. Lets c how it goes.
I ordered one because my work pays for part of the cost. The initial reviews are ok. A firmware upgrade or rooting can help it be better.
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I ordered one because my work pays for part of the cost. The initial reviews are ok. A firmware upgrade or rooting can help it be better.
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Apparently there's going to be an update that deals with the screen accuracy issues.
Had OP2, had nice specs, but in reality it sucked mostly because of the half cooked software. Even though OP seems to be fixing it with OP3 I will never buy from Oneplus ever again
If you consider the overall experience, for what I am in love with the s7 edge, let it be display, battery, software(controversial), the extra samsung features, VR, camera, aesthetics, stability (really important) etc , s7 edge leaves OP3 way behind.
Op3 is a great buy but a downgrade from s7
Nope
I'm buying the OP3 as a side-phone to toy with Who knows, I might sell my S7E later on. Always liked OnePlus devices. I did skip the OP2 though, it was fail. OP3 seems polished and I've heard that OxygenOS 3.0 is rather good this time around! TouchWiz is very capable, but very heavy and feels like a bloated mess comprared to OxygenOS.
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I'm buying the OP3 as a side-phone to toy with Who knows, I might sell my S7E later on. Always liked OnePlus devices. I did skip the OP2 though, it was fail. OP3 seems polished and I've heard that OxygenOS 3.0 is rather good this time around! TouchWiz is very capable, but very heavy and feels like a bloated mess comprared to OxygenOS.
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keep us posted with your thoughts when you get the phone : P wonder how fast will oneplus be pushing updates this time.
No way! Such a downgrade und even worse software. But I consider upcoming HTC nexus, because of this typical samsung's software issue
It seems like a decent device. But the problem is that I already own and can afford my S7E. I don't see anything wrong with the one plus 3, and especially for the price.
But I wouldn't dream of leaving my S7E for it. Worse camera. Worse battery life. Screen is lower resolution, which isn't that big of a deal for me, but it is a con, for sure. The only pluses are the fact that there is no edge, which helps while holding, and the 6gb of ram, which is also questionable for the moment. No doubt that it will be the next big thing as well.
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Well damn, i never thought that i would make that comparison. But here it is ruining my mind because each phone has its strong and weak points.
Each phone is available to be and i can buy for a disparity of 100 euros (OP5500, S8 600). I am also talking about the exynos model.
Why i consider buying OP5:
Blazingly fast, i know that even facebook wont stutter.
Great battery.
Good camera at daylight and great selfie.( I dont really take much pictures but when i do its mostly on selfie or daylight and the differences arent that noticable in that aspect).
I actually like its design.
Front facing and fast FP.
Why i consider S8;
Waterproof/Dustproof.
Cant beat that design.
One of the best cameras in android.
The only reason holding me back is the battery and laggy touchwiz. I have gotten in my hands s8's and every single one has occasional stutters and lags on daily apps. I dont know if touchwiz can be improved but i have seen it with my own eyes all this time and samsung regarding speed needs to do a lot more work.
So i hope that you can see my points and offer some oppinions on this matter. Thank you all!
Edit; I have seen jelly on videos but i dont think that it will affect me in any way. what i fear is that it might get worse though as time passes.
I would say OP5 simply because it doesn't have touchwiz lol
I'm trying to sell my Pixel XL and then I will be (re)-purchasing the OP5. I buy phones mainly for the software experience and the amount of development available for OP devices is incredible.
Personally, I feel the only thing the S8 has going for it is the screen/design and I suppose camera - but these are all subjective. It's not enough for me to want to choose the S8 over the 5.
Just my two cents
I kind of share your thoughts but still not enough to convince me about it, i mean if i see a op5t in the next few months this phone will loose entirely its net worth.
I have both devices .... go for the op5 unless you really care about having a bigger screen.
100% the Oneplus 5.
Whatever you think you're going to get more of on the s8 you'll miss out on so much more compared to the 1+
I made my choice for de 128gb op5 when I could get the gs8 a bit cheaper.
The waterproofness was my main reason to go for the Samsung, I don't value camera very much.
I might be a bit weird but I prefer the design on the op5, not that many people will have it and a Snapdragon for development is a must
Hi, I was also on the fence, I went for OP5 too, for a few reasons :
-Developpement, really important of the Android fun for me.
- Software, TW may be getting better but it is still really a lot of stuff, and I don't like the doubling of features. Thinking about the assistant in particular, since I don't even use Google's. The dedicated Bixby button really is silly for this case.
- I saw an article where people could vote for how much the like photos, blind. OP5 came ahead of S8 (but after LG G6). So it is at least as good.
- Developpement!
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The only reason holding me back is the battery and laggy touchwiz. I have gotten in my hands s8's and every single one has occasional stutters and lags on daily apps. I dont know if touchwiz can be improved but i have seen it with my own eyes all this time and samsung regarding speed needs to do a lot more work.
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Well, Right there, that's your answer. lol don't be fooled, people have been saying that about Touch Wiz for years. "Maybe they can work on it more", but every version is the same, buggy and laggy. Don't hold your breath on that going away with some update.
I owned a Galaxy S7 and at first was really satisfied. Before that I always owned Nexus phones.
The S7 had lot of nice features and good camera. S8 also has... BUT after a few months I just hated the device for TouchWiz lags and massive bloat. Overall experience just wasn't great. S7 had over 350 services/apps installed without user apps. A lot of what you probably never need. And if you start disabling things, battery life just gets even worse.
So go for an OP5 and enjoy the smoothness and development possibilities .
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I made my choice for de 128gb op5 when I could get the gs8 a bit cheaper.
The waterproofness was my main reason to go for the Samsung, I don't value camera very much.
I might be a bit weird but I prefer the design on the op5, not that many people will have it and a Snapdragon for development is a must
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You do know that the Oneplus has some waterproofing? Not certified of course but it's been seen many times on YouTube being fully submerged for over a minute, no problems at all. Apple did the same thing.
Yeah I didn't realize the OP5 was more or less water resistant. There are a bunch of YouTube videos of people doing water tests though, so it definitely seems to be water resistant! That's was one of my few iffy things about it, but I feel much more assured knowing that a quick dip or spill won't fry it.
They never show the OnePlus a couple of days later after being in the water. To show if it truly holds up. I think if the OnePlus was really water resistant they would say it cause it would be a huge selling part.
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I have both I love the OnePlus cause of dash charging and dual SIM capabilities. I love the S8+ for wireless charging and being truly water resistant.
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They never show the OnePlus a couple of days later after being in the water. To show if it truly holds up. I think if the OnePlus was really water resistant they would say it cause it would be a huge selling part.
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Three of the videos I found had follow-up videos showing the phone and everything still working. One was after a few days, one was after a couple weeks, and one was just last week (two months after the water test).
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You do know that the Oneplus has some waterproofing? Not certified of course but it's been seen many times on YouTube being fully submerged for over a minute, no problems at all. Apple did the same thing.
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I use a Sony Xperia z3c for cycling, which often means rain in the road and mud when I mountainbike. The oneplus is not quite ready to replace de Sony ?
OnePlus 5 for better battery life, performance, smoothness, perceived shell temperature, ram management, oxygen os. Camera is good if there's light.
My last Samsung phones were s6 edge and galaxy s7. Both with ram management issues and on both I could fry eggs (exynos). I can't trust another flagship from Samsung, especially with glass back.. And a short hands-on with s8. The same camera as s7, same amount of ram (=> not that good ram management). For sure i cannot stand that fingerprint position, the glass back and the edges!
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I kind of share your thoughts but still not enough to convince me about it, i mean if i see a op5t in the next few months this phone will loose entirely its net worth.
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I don't think there will be enough upgrades to make a 5T in the same form factor, the 3t had a camera, soc and battery upgrade, the op5 won't be able to get the last one in the same form factor and the first two might but then they'd probably save that for the OP6
I sell Samsung s8 plus for buy oneplus 5 and dont look back, oneplus 5 is better
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I was in the same doubt.
I chosen OP5 for:
no touchwiz
no edge display (cool but unsuitable)
snapdragon
dual sim
top level in all features (or almost top)
After 1 month with OP5 im totally happy
One more thing:
I used an s6 edge for a while and the edge screen was the worst of it's features because of accidental touches and simply no useful additions.
It really drove me crazy
had the s8 dual variant. it was sexy as hell.. after two weeks samsung experience bored me altought it had lots of uselful features. I was into custom roms.. more into AOSP/LOS based that is. so I returned it and got a 128gb op5. never looked back
camera quality on both phones are superb. s8 has a slightly better quality tho. but I love the op5's camera overall.
plus the s8's body is really fragile.
I'm switching my Galaxy S6 Edge after long using it and I have 2 main choices: OnePlus 5 (128 GB version) or the Galaxy S8+
The main reasons for me to choose the OnePlus are the faster and cleaner android performance, even though I'm a Galaxy user since the Galaxy 2 I never liked the bloatware and the oxygen OS looks wonderful.
The reasons for taking the S8+ are... Well everywhere I searched and almost any review by people who used them both are saying that it is the best android smartphone there is.
Except the reviews, the camera and amazing display and quality are much better.
After a couple of days, and hundreds of video and written reviews and comparisons I still couldn't choose so I decided to ask here, after you've used OP5 for some time, if someone approached and offered you to switch your OP5 with a S8 for free, would you do it?
Please note that cost is not an issue, here in Israel the S8+ costs about 300 ILS (about $85) more than the OP5 and i can afford it if it's worth it.
Nope. OP5 has far superior battery life, it is faster and dash charging is amazing, more ram and storage and basically Stock Android! The S8 has a better display but I'm OK with 1080p (didn't think I would be coming from 1440p phones) as I don't care about VR. Also, better updates and more frequent to date.
I switched from the S8+, the near stock Android is unbeatable for fluidity and just quality of life. Everything seems more iOS like on stock (or near it) Android. And when I say more iOS like I mean the good things about it, such as the fluidity and overall polish.
I switched from the S8. OS is light-years better. I don't need all the gimmicks and love quick updates. Portrait mode is a plus for taking pics of the family.
I'd trade, try it out for a bit, then sell it for another phone lmao. Maybe a Z2 Play or Mi A1. Who knows?
S8+ is a nice phone but all that Samsung bloat I can't deal with
You probably should ask that question in a more Samsung friendly thread because people here are obviously going to be biased. The OP5 is better if you are into rooting or customizing your phone. But it also has terrible camera software --I could take better low light pictures with my $200 Samsung Galaxy J3. The other thing Samsung phones have going for them is the build quality. I've never owned a Samsung phone that broke before I was ready to replace it. I don't think the OP5 has comparable build quality. But if you like to root your phone and flash custom kernels and ROMs the OP5 may be the best phone on the market.
For the looks yes, I came from a s6 edge+ and my girl has a normal s8, but for overall experience, speed and stuff I would def choose the 5, and if I want looks, I just hold my girls phone for a few sec..
They could pay me money on top and I would never come back to Samsung!
As you may have noticed, most of oneplus's users (including me) see the OP5 as a superior device to the s8.
Most people are not buying this phone because it's cheaper.
Coming from an s4, I was considering the s8 and the oneplus 5. But I am going for the OP5, because I think it's the superior device.
S8 is a good phone but I cannot live with Samsung's software
I haven't used Samsung devices much, but simply because I am able to mod this (custom ROMs, kernels, etc.) with virtually no bloatware and heavy skins (such as TouchWiz) makes this the better option for me.
The S8 does have a nice design though, and from reviews/feedback, seems like it has a better camera as well; but that isn't enough for me to switch over.
The 5 is a great device and I think if you choose it, you won't be disappointed!
Considering the fact that I'm switching from the LAGGY S8+ to the OP5 then I guess the answer to this would be NO
I could go either way except for the fact that I need dual sim cards so I don't have to carry 2 phones. I used an s8 for a couple weeks before switching to the op5. They both have there pros and cons which have all been touched on here. I won't switch but I would be happy with either phone. I think the s8 design is prettier and more impressive but the op5 is easier to use.
I like both.
As stated they both have their pros and cons...
S8+ has got a brilliant camera, sd card support and a heap of hardware features to explore. There is always things to find and surprise. Bixby is a little hard to use unless you have a US accent, I find it doesn't understand Aussie to well but it does learn.
The 4gb of ram is noticeable when you hold the Oneplus up to it though.
Oneplus doesn't have sd card support but does have dual sim support. You are stuck with the internal memory you buy so make sure you account for that. It is quick with 8gb ram and easy to flash/theme and mod .
In the end it depends if you like to be able to change roms and mod easily, though the S8+ isn't too hard after bootloader unlock (you just destroy any chance of Samsung honoring your warranty) or like to play with some cool little features you may or may not get over.
It will ultimately come down to you and how you use your device...
Just to be clear here, asking a dev forum of dedicated phone owners how their phone compares to the "competition" is not really going to get you anywhere. Most will fight tooth and nail defending their vaunted purchase and you will get a very biased opinion...
If you don't believe me, ask how it compares to an Apple... Now I've let loose the cat amongst the very heavily armed pidgeons...
I chose OP5 over an Exynos S8 because Samsung's software is the worst and I've been burned too many times. Price didn't enter the equation.
Same. Money wasn't the deciding factor for me. I had an S6... the ritual of disabling all the bloat got old. Too many gimmicks. Plus lots of RAM makes me happy.
I'd post in the S8 forum and ask why they chose S8, see what their responses are, and see if you value those things.
Home button and phone unlocking is way better on the OP. Infinity display is nice but also very fragile. I went with the OP5 instead of the S8 for these two reasons and never regret. This phone rocks.
Coming from an s6 then the s8 for a couple weeks, the home button is really nice of have. Both phones have equally lightning fast fingerprint sensors. The op5 would be much less likely to break if you accidentally drop it it.
Only big issue is Facebook Messenger is still freezing a lot when typing or just sitting idle. After several updates it's still problematic and it's only happening on my op5. I started just messaging on my old HTC m9 which still works fine, as did the s8 and s6 and even an s4 I just sold.
A Google search hasn't helped so far and I'm away from home on vacation without my m9 so it's getting frustrating.
Other than that it's been basically flawless.
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Coming from an s6 then the s8 for a couple weeks, the home button is really nice of have. Both phones have equally lightning fast fingerprint sensors. The op5 would be much less likely to break if you accidentally drop it it.
Only big issue is Facebook Messenger is still freezing a lot when typing or just sitting idle. After several updates it's still problematic and it's only happening on my op5. I started just messaging on my old HTC m9 which still works fine, as did the s8 and s6 and even an s4 I just sold.
A Google search hasn't helped so far and I'm away from home on vacation without my m9 so it's getting frustrating.
Other than that it's been basically flawless.
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[Off topic] For how much did you sell your s4? Thinking of selling it but I'm afraid nobody wants it for a good price (~100$)
Dear all ,
Good morning.
I have been considering selling my aging iPhone 6s Plus and moving to android.
Mainly because of stale design(same as 3-4 years ago) and horrible/laggy/battery draining updates.
So about taking a dive back to android.
Before i got my 6s plus i had s7 edge. While i did like the phone overall , i had one major deal breaker for me. Heat.
I do not like a heating phone. I would use s7 edge for 20 minutes surfing the web via wifi and it reached 32-34 degrees (ambient temp 26). iphone would stay cool even if i browsed for hours.
So, my question to you guys, since you already posses the device, is : does the s8 plus behave thermaly the same as s7 edge ~~~clarification : In my area only the exynos variant is available.?
I cannot compare it to an s7 edge because I did not ever owned one but I can say no, absolutely not. I came from iphone 7 plus to the (normal) s8 and dont ever had the feeling that my device gets an uncomfortable temperature. During basic tasks like browsing, downloading and testing apps, whatsapp&facebook and so on it is "cold" - at least for me. Even when playing light games like clash royale (only game I play now and then) it doesnt come to an uncomfortable temperature, maybe 3-4°C warmer. The only situation the s8 gets really warm (and by warm I dont mean hot) is when charging through usb or qi, but I think this is physically unavoidable.
Personally, I don't have an S8, but I used one for a couple of hours and it gets pretty warm.
Thank you guys!
Just a clarification : In my area only the exynos variant is available.
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Thank you guys!
Just a clarification : In my area only the exynos variant is available.
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yes, here in my area (Austria) is also only exynos available
My S8 definitely heats up more with pokemon go compared to my iPhone 7.
By the way, if you think an S8 will get you out of lags and battery drains, read the threads in this forum from other users complaining the exact issues.
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My S8 definitely heats up more with pokemon go compared to my iPhone 7.
By the way, if you think an S8 will get you out of lags and battery drains, read the threads in this forum from other users complaining the exact issues.
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the s8 has also nearly four times the pixels to push than the iphone 7
and my s8 doesnt lag at all after 7 month and I have a custom rom on it, which I have heavily skinned and customized
s8 gets hot only when you fast charge it. Other than that its pretty cool.
Thank you guys! Awaiting more of your experiences in orderr to make an educated purchase!
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Only while gaming and charging. Regular surfing, media playback or socializing has no impact cool as a breeze.
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get an iPhone X Plus if you're used to iPhones
MicI wouldn't recommend S8 or S8+, maybe Note 8, but I think you'll be happier with an iPhone X Plus if you're used to iPhones. Personally, I don't care for iOS at all. Android is way better than iOS, but I really think you'll like iPhone X Plus.
Note: Your experience with an Exynos S8/S8+/Note 8 might be better than mine with S8+ Snapdragon, because it really isn't convenient to have a locked bootloader and a rooted phone that only charges to 80%!
No lag so far on my phone, I came from the S6 and that used to heat up a lot (so much so I could use it as a hand warmer on cold days, and some times I could not hold it to my face on calls).
My S8 has stayed cool, it has only gotten warm once or twice, and that wasn't very much. I regularly surf, use social media, play Vainglory and Mobile Strike. I also stream to my TV every now and then and it's been good.
I have the regular S8 on Oreo Beta 2.
Thank you,
So far it seems that s8plus does not have the same thermal attitude that exynos s7edge had.
I am tempted to make the move soon.
I've had my S8 for 3 odd months now, but I'm not a gamer, I've never had it heat up, I had teh G6 and iPhone 7 prior to this but hated the image quality of the iPhone, just a mushy mess when looking closer, the S8 is in another league IQ wise. iPhones are beautifully built but the S8 is equal to it these days. I'm very happy, I rooted my S8 only this week and am loving it, 60 odd hours between charges, 6 hours SoT (actually want much less before rooting) nothing more I could ask for. Superb device.
I also love my s8 and I also dont think I will upgrade to s9 when its released.
it has a small form factor (compared to other devices with that screen size), a gorgeous display, wireless charging, stereo speakers (with mod), is fast and snappy, has one of the best cameras, is water resistant,...
This phone has all I want and need
everything except the stock android ui experience. if this would happen one day, I think samsung phones would win another like 20-30% of "potential customers that are yet afraid of moving to touchwiz. I themed it as best as possible to stock pixel ui and I can live with it. Maybe samsung is making the move slowly over the years to go away from their playful icons and settings ui and closer to stock like sony or motorola/lenovo did.
Imagine the s8 with stock android - noone would buy pixel 2
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I also love my s8 and I also dont think I will upgrade to s9 when its released.
it has a small form factor (compared to other devices with that screen size), a gorgeous display, wireless charging, stereo speakers (with mod), is fast and snappy, has one of the best cameras, is water resistant,...
This phone has all I want and need
everything except the stock android ui experience. if this would happen one day, I think samsung phones would win another like 20-30% of "potential customers that are yet afraid of moving to touchwiz. I themed it as best as possible to stock pixel ui and I can live with it. Maybe samsung is making the move slowly over the years to go away from their playful icons and settings ui and closer to stock like sony or motorola/lenovo did.
Imagine the s8 with stock android - noone would buy pixel 2
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I agree, if it was stock and updated with the latest OS like the Pixel 2 (it will get more OS updates than through Samsung), then the Pixel 2 would have very few sales.
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I agree, if it was stock and updated with the latest OS like the Pixel 2 (it will get more OS updates than through Samsung), then the Pixel 2 would have very few sales.
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argh..i know.. i was set on pixel 2 XL but the million screen issues put me off..
Some more love here?
Just buy the damm phone ( S8 plus )....
You will not regret it .
Àwesome in every bloody way.
Coming from iphone 7