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Hi folks, got my A500 refurb for 200 bucks last night. Its mint, and so far awesome. I am coming from a Nook Color as my last tablet so this is a huge jump. Updated OTA to ICS this morning.
Couple of simple questions:
1. How do I turn off haptic feedback? It wasn't on when it was on HC, but in ICS it has it, the vibrate on this thing is strong enough for it to be annoying. I looked under keyboard settings which is where it is on any of my old devices, and its not there, unless I missed it?
2. Does this thing go to sleep if you leave the screen off for an extended period, like shut off the wifi and go low power? my Nook does that, not sure if theres a setting I need to set. I left for work this morning and left it on my desk, on and connected to WiFi, am I gonna come home to 50% battery?
3. Tried the Hero of Sparta game on it last night while still on HC. Played great but the sound was choppy, I have heard some attribute sound issues to Dolby Mobile, is that the case? Should I try again with Dolby turned off?
4. I believe I read that you can't move apps to the SD card with ICS? Is that the case, because I bought an 8gb tab which means I'm gonna run out of space real quick. Can rooting fix that?
Rogue Leader said:
Hi folks, got my A500 refurb for 200 bucks last night. Its mint, and so far awesome. I am coming from a Nook Color as my last tablet so this is a huge jump. Updated OTA to ICS this morning.
Couple of simple questions:
1. How do I turn off haptic feedback? It wasn't on when it was on HC, but in ICS it has it, the vibrate on this thing is strong enough for it to be annoying. I looked under keyboard settings which is where it is on any of my old devices, and its not there, unless I missed it?
2. Does this thing go to sleep if you leave the screen off for an extended period, like shut off the wifi and go low power? my Nook does that, not sure if theres a setting I need to set. I left for work this morning and left it on my desk, on and connected to WiFi, am I gonna come home to 50% battery?
3. Tried the Hero of Sparta game on it last night while still on HC. Played great but the sound was choppy, I have heard some attribute sound issues to Dolby Mobile, is that the case? Should I try again with Dolby turned off?
4. I believe I read that you can't move apps to the SD card with ICS? Is that the case, because I bought an 8gb tab which means I'm gonna run out of space real quick. Can rooting fix that?
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1. In sound settings
2. I'd be worried if I came home to find my battery at 50 per cent, you be fine
2. Check advanced wifi settings- can tell wifi when to sleep
3. Cant help with this, experiment and find out
4. Not heard of anyone running out - that usb port comes in mighty handy!!!
5. Welcome to the forum
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1. In sound settings
2. I'd be worried if I came home to find my battery at 50 per cent, you be fine
2. Check advanced wifi settings- can tell wifi when to sleep
3. Cant help with this, experiment and find out
4. Not heard of anyone running out - that usb port comes in mighty handy!!!
5. Welcome to the forum
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Thanks for the tips, I came home and it was at 92 percent
Shutting off Dolby did fix the sound problem
I put a 32 GB micro SD in it. I was concerned games wouldn't install to it, and apparently they don't. I don't have a lot installed and yet I have less than 1.5gb remaining.
Thanks for the welcome
Rogue Leader said:
Thanks for the tips, I came home and it was at 92 percent
Shutting off Dolby did fix the sound problem
I put a 32 GB micro SD in it. I was concerned games wouldn't install to it, and apparently they don't. I don't have a lot installed and yet I have less than 1.5gb remaining.
Thanks for the welcome
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awesome you're welcome Hows that 32GB Card working, had any issues apart from being too small what brand and class is it m8???
dibb_nz said:
awesome you're welcome Hows that 32GB Card working, had any issues apart from being too small what brand and class is it m8???
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I got a sandisk class 4. It seems to work fine but the fact there's no way to move apps to it makes it a bit useless. I'm not much of a music/movie guy I usually use streaming so media space is wasted on me. Is there a fix for that yet?
app2sd
You might want to try App2sd from the google play store. The app won't move all apps to SD card, only apps that are moveable. So this app won't totally solve your problem but it should help.
partzman2 said:
You might want to try App2sd from the google play store. The app won't move all apps to SD card, only apps that are moveable. So this app won't totally solve your problem but it should help.
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Yeah I have that but it apparently doesn't work with ICS. I read somewhere else here someone complained about this as well. The button doesn't even show up to move apps to SD.
Rogue Leader said:
Yeah I have that but it apparently doesn't work with ICS. I read somewhere else here someone complained about this as well. The button doesn't even show up to move apps to SD.
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A lot of games and other Database apps usually save the Data to the Ext SD Card by default, or give you an option for location. At least what I've come across.
Rogue Leader said:
I got a sandisk class 4. It seems to work fine but the fact there's no way to move apps to it makes it a bit useless. I'm not much of a music/movie guy I usually use streaming so media space is wasted on me. Is there a fix for that yet?
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A Class 4 is a hair on the slow side, anyways. You would likely see a real world performance hit running apps off a class 4 card.
Moscow Desire said:
A lot of games and other Database apps usually save the Data to the Ext SD Card by default, or give you an option for location. At least what I've come across.
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Yeah the games do save there, but you can't move the actual app to the SD card which is nice to do. I bought an 8 gb tab and with only about 10 games on there and whatever apps I have I'm down to only 1.5 gb.
EDIT: I am wrong. The games do not save there. If I look in ES File Explorer the /mnt/sdcard folder shows a bunch of stuff, yet when I pull the SD card and put it in my PC, its blank except a couple of android insertd folders. I believe ICS DOES NOT save to the SD card? Can anyone else check? In ES File explorer, the sd card I inserted is shown as folder "external_sd" while theres a separate sdcard folder of which nothing in there is on the sd card.
I am wondering if I can just copy the data to the SD card, delete the "sdcard" folder and rename external to "sdcard"
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A Class 4 is a hair on the slow side, anyways. You would likely see a real world performance hit running apps off a class 4 card.
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Class 4 is the go to card on many many phones, the higher classes suffer on performance for many phone tasks which are I/O but work great for recording video or taking pictures. Class 10 especially really is made for digital cameras and actually performs worse than a 4 on a phone/tablet.
This is my first phone that uses MTP. My last phone had an SD Card, and used USB Mass Storage, so I'm not sure if this is normal behavior for MTP.
I plug the phone in, and the only way the computer recognizes it as a storage device is to have USB Debugging off, and the phone set to "Connected as a Media Device (MTP)". If I set it to connect as a camera, it only sees the DCIM and pictures folder, and it only works if USB Debugging is turned ON. So that's the first weird thing.
All I really have installed driver-wise is the stock android drivers that are included in the SDK, installed using the device manager method. I am rooted stock, running Franco.Kernel.
I am connecting to the computer using the cable that came with the phone, although I have tried 4 other cables and they all return the same result.
What happens is, I plug in the phone, and it pops up in My Computer as "Nexus 4, Portable Media Player". So I click on that, then click on Internal Storage, the only available option. It takes about 5 seconds to load up all the files.
I am trying to back up all the files on my External Storage before I flash a ROM. I know it's not necessary, but better safe then sorry. So I highlight all the files, and drag them into a directory on my computer. And a dialogue pops up that says "Estimating time required to transfer files" or something like that. And it just sits there. I let it sit for about 15 minutes, and after it did nothing for that time, I hit cancel. To get it to fully cancel, however, I had to disconnect the phone and reconnect it.
So now I'm trying to do everything 1 by 1. Transfer 1 folder at a time. The smaller folders work fine, although they're still incredibly slow. Over a minute for a folder with 2 Megabytes of data in it? That can't be right. But then I hit the bigger folders, such as the "Android Folder" where all the big games are stored. So I drag that folder into the directory on my computer, and it spends about 25-30 minutes "Estimating time required to transfer files". Then it starts the transfer. It says it will be about 2-3 hours. There's around 3 GB of data in the folder, according to right clicking on it and clicking properties, so I guess that's a semi-reasonable amount of time, but still pretty slow compared to my old phone. But then, after about 20 minutes of copying data, it just stops. It looks like it has finished, but upon going through the directory on my computer, and comparing it to the one on the phone, it has only transferred about half of the files. So I try again, repeating the above process. And the same exact thing happens. It always stops at ~1 GB out of the 2.7 it should be copying over.
What gives? This is literally the most frustrating thing ever right now. I just want to flash PA so badly but I can't get my stuff to copy over!
Please help! Thanks so much!
The good news, that's normal.
The bad news, that's normal.
Try pulling your sdcard via ADB, it's more reliable.
CMNein said:
The good news, that's normal.
The bad news, that's normal.
Try pulling your sdcard via ADB, it's more reliable.
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That's so bad if that's normal. Why Google switched to MTP is beyond me. Another weird issue is sometimes it can take forever for the filesystem to update on my computer. I can put an apk file that I downloaded to my phone on the root of the external storage. Then, when I plug it in to my computer to transfer it off, it won't be there. I reboot, it still isn't there. After searching and searching, I went back, unplugged the phone, plugged it back in for the 20th time, and it randomly shows up. So frustrating.
Anyway... what's the command for adb pulling that? I know the external storage is called something like /emulated/0 or something. So would it be adb pull /emulated/0 C:\Users\blahblahblah?
Mines doesn't take 5 seconds to load up. Very speedy for me on transferring files back to back. On Windows 7 SP1.
We didn't do this because we wanted to use ext3 (although that is a side benefit.) We did it because we wanted to be able to merge the "public shared storage" (i.e. for music and photos) with the internal private app storage.
We got tired of seeing OEMs include many GB of internal storage for music, while users were still running out of space for apps and data. This approach lets us merge everything on one volume, which is way better.
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is the reason why they used MTP. I personally prefer MTP even though some people always encounter problems with it and I have none. It's very handy on devices with a SDCard as well as Internal Storage, rather than having two of them pop up on "My Computer" it is merged into one and you can select which one you want to go into. Sometimes people are confused which one is which. Not to mention if you have an app that relies on data on the "sdcard" (internal storage) and it is currently plugged into the computer. It won't be able to read that data because it is in USB mass storage mode.
Certainly your situation is not normal.
zephiK said:
Mines doesn't take 5 seconds to load up. Very speedy for me on transferring files back to back. On Windows 7 SP1.
is the reason why they used MTP. I personally prefer MTP even though some people always encounter problems with it and I have none. It's very handy on devices with a SDCard as well as Internal Storage, rather than having two of them pop up on "My Computer" it is merged into one and you can select which one you want to go into. Sometimes people are confused which one is which. Not to mention if you have an app that relies on data on the "sdcard" (internal storage) and it is currently plugged into the computer. It won't be able to read that data because it is in USB mass storage mode.
Certainly your situation is not normal.
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That is not the reason. The reason is Google is slyly forcing us into a thin client platform ala chrome book and nexus. If Google doesn't start releasing nexus with at the very minimum larger storage, I.e. minimum 32gb on nexus, (would rather have SD slot) they will probably lose me as a client altogether. Yes I will probably still use Google maps at the very minimum but everything else I am in no way attached. The cloud is a poor replacement for local storage, and yes I too think off site storage will be a major factor in the future but give us larger storage options during this transitional phase. The cloud is slow, data is expensive, data is not widely available like oxygen is, I don't want to stream music, much less have any possibility of commercials and ads during my musical nirvana and transcoding my FLACs/wav's into 320 kbps mp3 is just piss poor bull**** and a very good reason why people should NOT willingly sign up for cloud services. Handing over ownership of your data and getting a lesser quality experience in return is just asinine and stupid. And Google drive is a poor excuse of cloud management and how come Google isn't forcing more developers to implement Drive and/or cloud services into android ecosystem, much less Google themselves just screams how bad Google wants to shove an apple up your anus.
I voided my warranty.
Let's not turn this into an argument over why mtp sucks. I'd just really like to know how to fix my problem.
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That is not the reason. The reason is Google is slyly forcing us into a thin client platform ala chrome book and nexus. If Google doesn't start releasing nexus with at the very minimum larger storage, I.e. minimum 32gb on nexus, (would rather have SD slot) they will probably lose me as a client altogether. Yes I will probably still use Google maps at the very minimum but everything else I am in no way attached. The cloud is a poor replacement for local storage, and yes I too think off site storage will be a major factor in the future but give us larger storage options during this transitional phase. The cloud is slow, data is expensive, data is not widely available like oxygen is, I don't want to stream music, much less have any possibility of commercials and ads during my musical nirvana and transcoding my FLACs/wav's into 320 kbps mp3 is just piss poor bull**** and a very good reason why people should NOT willingly sign up for cloud services. Handing over ownership of your data and getting a lesser quality experience in return is just asinine and stupid. And Google drive is a poor excuse of cloud management and how come Google isn't forcing more developers to implement Drive and/or cloud services into android ecosystem, much less Google themselves just screams how bad Google wants to shove an apple up your anus.
I voided my warranty.
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that's all conspiracy about taking off MTP or SDCARDS in favor of their cloud service but i do agree with you, the 8GB/16GB combo was kind of silly, they should of done 16GB/32GB to the very least, as a person who lives in NYC and takes the subway. I won't always have service because underground we don't get any (we're starting too.. but it depends on which stations you're at) so the cloud isn't a viable option for me and it shouldn't be for most people anyway because of the data caps that carriers impose on them.
16GB is enough for me, but still would of been nice for a 32GB version. I hoped google learned from 8GB/16GB format for the N7 but guess not. should of been 16GB/32GB for N4 and I'd be pretty upset if they discontinued 8GB in favor for a 16GB/32GB as i paid for a 32GB at ~$349.
of course, google isnt telling everybody to get a nexus device. there are other alternatives out there such as galaxy s, note, etc. I personally like nexus devices for community support when it comes to custom roms and kernels.
Let's PM the devs start asking for Mass Storage support?
I hate MTP. I really really hate it. WiFi solutions (AirDroid, Samba, Total Commando) are not ideal either. I don't have to list the disadvantages, do I?
OK people, let's start a different thread so we can voice why mtp sucks. For now, can someone just tell me if what I'm experiencing is normal, and if there is a way to fix it? Or what the adb command is to pull my external storage onto my computer is? Thanks!
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KyraOfFire said:
Let's PM the devs start asking for Mass Storage support?
I hate MTP. I really really hate it. WiFi solutions (AirDroid, Samba, Total Commando) are not ideal either. I don't have to list the disadvantages, do I?
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Can't do it. It's been discussed before on the GN forums.
zephiK said:
Can't do it. It's been discussed before on the GN forums.
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Oh crap.... can you kindly explain why it can't be done with the Nexus 4?
I have had USB MassStorage in some ICS/JB custom ROM for other phones.
Edit: I am guessing because the sd storage is actually an emulated folder?
kcls said:
OK people, let's start a different thread so we can voice why mtp sucks. For now, can someone just tell me if what I'm experiencing is normal, and if there is a way to fix it? Or what the adb command is to pull my external storage onto my computer is? Thanks!
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adb pull /sdcard/ *should* work, although I haven't done it on the N4 yet so can't confirm if the /0/ throws a wrench in the works. It will still likely be painfully slow, but it won't just stop altogether for no reason.
I'm also a big fan of adb backup/restore, saves a lot of trouble when restoring your junk, including the sdcard. To back up your apps and the sdcard it would be:
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adb backup -all -nosystem -shared -apk
Code:
adb restore backup.ab
A restore of this is all, or nothing, it will restore your apps, some settings, and the sdcard after you've flashed.
I think I'm going to just backup my pictures and TI Backup files. That's all I really care about anyway. I don't have time to wait 4+ hours just to copy a few GB's off my phone.
KyraOfFire said:
Oh crap.... can you kindly explain why it can't be done with the Nexus 4?
I have had USB MassStorage in some ICS/JB custom ROM for other phones.
Edit: I am guessing because the sd storage is actually an emulated folder?
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It's emulated because in Android 4.2.X it supports multi user on tablets.
It has USB Mass Storage for other phones because that's the way the manufacturer developed the device. It supports USB Mass Storage. Phones/tablets by Google use MTP.
Google for the topic of discussion on Galaxy Nexus, I don't have the time to find it on Google. But I'm sure with some searching with google somewhere between the lines "USB mass storage on galaxy nexus possible?" would lead you into the right direction. Best thing I can say is to just believe me because if it was possible, I'm sure that it would of been done on the Galaxy Nexus already which is a one-year old device.
kcls said:
I think I'm going to just backup my pictures and TI Backup files. That's all I really care about anyway. I don't have time to wait 4+ hours just to copy a few GB's off my phone.
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A 2.8 GB backup took me ~40 minutes IIRC.
Edit: and if you want to get fancy with the backups, there are other options as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
A good alternative to MTP is to just use your phone as a FTP server and move files around that way. That's what I do instead of dragging and dropping files via USB cable, I don't have any problems with MTP but I do have a problem with beating laziness
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImx1dGV5LkZUUFNlcnZlciJd
Transfers files very fast.
zephiK said:
A good alternative to MTP is to just use your phone as a FTP server and move files around that way. That's what I do instead of dragging and dropping files via USB cable, I don't have any problems with MTP but I do have a problem with beating laziness
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImx1dGV5LkZUUFNlcnZlciJd
Transfers files very fast.
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Eh, that'd be super super slow. Thanks for the recommendation though.
I'm copying over using adb pull /sdcard/ which seems to be working, although it keeps getting stuck on one file. I've deleted the file and I'm trying again though. It seems to be going a lot faster than straight copy and paste though.
kcls said:
Eh, that'd be super super slow. Thanks for the recommendation though.
I'm copying over using adb pull /sdcard/ which seems to be working, although it keeps getting stuck on one file. I've deleted the file and I'm trying again though. It seems to be going a lot faster than straight copy and paste though.
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It's actually quite fast to be honest. Phone connected to WiFi of course and being on the same network (192.) aligned with FlashFXP as the FTP client on desktop. http://www.flashfxp.com/
MTP works with debugging on for me...
I've just tested my mtp speed, copied 1.5gigabyte in 2.5 minutes... theres something wrong with your mtp.
btw if your mtp driver won't install in debugging mode you can edit the wpdmtp.inf file in windows/inf.. i had to
So, I've seen quite a few posts now about Android System eating way more battery than it should, and I'd noticed the same thing on my phone since day 1. I tried turning features and settings on and off, disabling apps etc etc all to no avail, but I've finally cracked it
Format your external SD card via the phone settings, and use Kies to re-sync your content. Mine was originally formatted as FAT32 and I'd dragged and dropped the music and photos onto it via my computer. I don't quite understand the mechanism responsible, but this seems to be the source of my phone's unusual battery drain. Android System battery utilisation has dropped markedly, and battery life is greatly extended. I noticed the media scanner working for a few hours after I initially inserted the SD card, however after formatting and reloading via Kies the media scanner didn't run, yet all the content shows up where it should. I can only guess that some process responsible for indexing the media was running amok? Either way it's now able to sit in flight mode overnight without dropping a single %, whereas previously it'd drop at least 6%. In active use the display now always sits at the top of the battery use table rather than Android System, usually by a large margin :victory:
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So, I've seen quite a few posts now about Android System eating way more battery than it should, and I'd noticed the same thing on my phone since day 1. I tried turning features and settings on and off, disabling apps etc etc all to no avail, but I've finally cracked it
Format your external SD card via the phone settings, and use Kies to re-sync your content. Mine was originally formatted as FAT32 and I'd dragged and dropped the music and photos onto it via my computer. I don't quite understand the mechanism responsible, but this seems to be the source of my phone's unusual battery drain. Android System battery utilisation has dropped markedly, and battery life is greatly extended. I noticed the media scanner working for a few hours after I initially inserted the SD card, however after formatting and reloading via Kies the media scanner didn't run, yet all the content shows up where it should. I can only guess that some process responsible for indexing the media was running amok? Either way it's now able to sit in flight mode overnight without dropping a single %, whereas previously it'd drop at least 6%. In active use the display now always sits at the top of the battery use table rather than Android System, usually by a large margin :victory:
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What if we don't have an external SD card?
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What if we don't have an external SD card?
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Then this isn't what's causing your issue.
vanButton said:
So, I've seen quite a few posts now about Android System eating way more battery than it should, and I'd noticed the same thing on my phone since day 1. I tried turning features and settings on and off, disabling apps etc etc all to no avail, but I've finally cracked it
Format your external SD card via the phone settings, and use Kies to re-sync your content. Mine was originally formatted as FAT32 and I'd dragged and dropped the music and photos onto it via my computer. I don't quite understand the mechanism responsible, but this seems to be the source of my phone's unusual battery drain. Android System battery utilisation has dropped markedly, and battery life is greatly extended. I noticed the media scanner working for a few hours after I initially inserted the SD card, however after formatting and reloading via Kies the media scanner didn't run, yet all the content shows up where it should. I can only guess that some process responsible for indexing the media was running amok? Either way it's now able to sit in flight mode overnight without dropping a single %, whereas previously it'd drop at least 6%. In active use the display now always sits at the top of the battery use table rather than Android System, usually by a large margin :victory:
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So what should we format the memory card to? Fat32 still?
Joe0113 said:
So what should we format the memory card to? Fat32 still?
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Just let the phone format it, there are no options for which file system you would like.
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Just let the phone format it, there are no options for which file system you would like.
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Interesting. And what's your battery like now?
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Interesting. And what's your battery like now?
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Much, much better. Oddly the Gallery app now shows more album artwork that was always located on the external SD card, but obviously was not being properly indexed. So far today I've got 3.5 hours of screen-on time and still have 58% battery capacity. Previously it'd have been that low with no screen time.
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Much, much better. Oddly the Gallery app now shows more album artwork that was always located on the external SD card, but obviously was not being properly indexed. So far today I've got 3.5 hours of screen-on time and still have 58% battery capacity. Previously it'd have been that low with no screen time.
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Couple more questions thn I'll stop annoying you :silly:
1. What's your Android System vs Screen now in terms of usage of the battery (% wise). And how was it before you did this little trick?
2. How should I go about putting everything back onto my SD Card (backups, pics. apps, etc.)? I've never used Kies before so I have no idea what to do lol.
3. All you did was go to settings, then storage and hit format sd card, correct?
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Couple more questions thn I'll stop annoying you :silly:
1. What's your Android System vs Screen now in terms of usage of the battery (% wise). And how was it before you did this little trick?
2. How should I go about putting everything back onto my SD Card (backups, pics. apps, etc.)? I've never used Kies before so I have no idea what to do lol.
3. All you did was go to settings, then storage and hit format sd card, correct?
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You're not annoying me, honest, that's why I shared my results here ;P
1: Android System is currently 13%, screen is 29%. Previously Android System would be over 30% no matter what and often much higher if I didn't use the phone much that day.
2: Copy everything off your SD card onto your computer using whichever method you currently use. In Kies there's a file browser icon that lets you browse the contents of your phone, as well as copy things to and from it. You don't have to use the automated sync tools in Kies, you can simply drag and drop using the Kies browser.
3: Yup, that is correct. Not sure if it's maybe formatted using exFAT now, but I believe that's Android's preferred format these days.
I think I formatted my new SD card when I put it in the phone but not sure.
Is there any way to check and see what the card is formatted to? exFAT? Fat32? It was a brand new Samsung card.
I'm not really seeing bad battery life at all just curious.
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You're not annoying me, honest, that's why I shared my results here ;P
1: Android System is currently 13%, screen is 29%. Previously Android System would be over 30% no matter what and often much higher if I didn't use the phone much that day.
2: Copy everything off your SD card onto your computer using whichever method you currently use. In Kies there's a file browser icon that lets you browse the contents of your phone, as well as copy things to and from it. You don't have to use the automated sync tools in Kies, you can simply drag and drop using the Kies browser.
3: Yup, that is correct. Not sure if it's maybe formatted using exFAT now, but I believe that's Android's preferred format these days.
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So when I re copy everything to my phone... Can I put it on my SD card again or should I place it in the internal storage? (using kies as you stated) thanks a lot buddy
Sent from a Galaxy 5 light years away
Joe0113 said:
So when I re copy everything to my phone... Can I put it on my SD card again or should I place it in the internal storage? (using kies as you stated) thanks a lot buddy
Sent from a Galaxy 5 light years away
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Yup, you can put everything back on to the external SD card via Kies.
Maybe it is also caused by kitkat bug, which is Not only triggered by skype, but also hangouts etc etc http://www.zdnet.com/kitkat-giving-...-says-google-as-it-prepares-a-fix-7000027051/
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Dumb. Not related to battery drain
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thegame2388 said:
What if we don't have an external SD card?
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i'm also getting massive android system use for seemingly no good reason, and it started like 4 days ago, my phone was fine before that.
I'm new to android so I don't even know where to start with regards to uncovering problems of this nature
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Dumb. Not related to battery drain
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Even dumber, you didn't read the article ? It is indeed related to battery drain and is a common bug in kitkat
I have no access to any files on this phone. I can't load any ringtones, or anything. I have no idea what is going on. I don't like not having an sd card on this phone. I'm about to send this ****ing phone back and get the lg v10
wily5150 said:
I have no access to any files on this phone. I can't load any ringtones, or anything. I have no idea what is going on. I don't like not having an sd card on this phone. I'm about to send this ****ing phone back and get the lg v10
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When you say you don't have access to any file's do you mean on your computer ?
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Welcome to the Nexus family. Head over to Google playstore and install file explorer. You are welcome.
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Are you saying when you have the phone plugged in via USB to a computer, you can't access the files on the computer?
When the phone is plugged into the computer, unlock the phone and pull down the notification shade (one finger swipe from the top). There is a notification that says "USB for Charging". Hit that and it'll open up a new window where you can select "File transfers". When you do that, you should see the phone to access the files on the computer.
wily5150 said:
I have no access to any files on this phone. I can't load any ringtones, or anything. I have no idea what is going on. I don't like not having an sd card on this phone. I'm about to send this ****ing phone back and get the lg v10
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Astro.
lol - the nanny controls/bloatware in other phones are what does this to people. this is a pure google device. what you're asking for here is knowledge. back in 2009 - you had to figure this stuff out on your own (and it was fun). now there are eleventybillion solutions for the same problem.
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Are you saying when you have the phone plugged in via USB to a computer, you can't access the files on the computer?
When the phone is plugged into the computer, unlock the phone and pull down the notification shade (one finger swipe from the top). There is a notification that says "USB for Charging". Hit that and it'll open up a new window where you can select "File transfers". When you do that, you should see the phone to access the files on the computer.
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I think this is what OP is talking about. This confused the **** outta me too at the beginning, I kept using the Developer options to toggle MTP. Thanks Google.
nickelfault said:
I think this is what OP is talking about. This confused the **** outta me too at the beginning, I kept using the Developer options to toggle MTP. Thanks Google.
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I agree it was confusing at first, but it's kinda growing on me to get those options right there in the notification panel instead of having to go to the developer options or storage options.
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I agree it was confusing at first, but it's kinda growing on me to get those options right there in the notification panel instead of having to go to the developer options or storage options.
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IMO what they should've done was make MTP the default when plugged into a computer, would probably save a lot of confusion from a user perspective. Maybe it'll change in a future update though since they may get a little backlash from new Android users who expect to be able to just plug it in and copy files over like it used to be. I too like the dropdown but if you don't know about it it can be frustrating as hell like in OP's case
Also undecided between 6P and V10.
V10 looks like more advanced device, but that pure android experience is what i will be missing on V10.
I finally got it
I screwed something up after I got the phone. I normally optimize the battery usage, as in shutting things down. I shut something off I shouldn't have. I didn't remember what I did. ( it sucks getting old). I had to do a hard reset, and started over. Once I did that everything started working. I got my music loaded on the phone, finally. This was the worst experience I've ever had with a new phone. But, it was my own doing.
I can't seem to figure out what's wrong; I've tried both MTP and PTP file transfer, but my computer (Windows 10) isn't detecting the device in my file explorer, but it's showing uo in my Device Manager under Android Device > Google Nexus ADB Interface.
Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks.
Edit: Nevermind! Just uninstalled the driver and it worked just peachy.
Dejan92 said:
Also undecided between 6P and V10.
V10 looks like more advanced device, but that pure android experience is what i will be missing on V10.
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Advanced device how? Because it has some gimmick 2nd screen for notifications?
MrDSL said:
Advanced device how? Because it has some gimmick 2nd screen for notifications?
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That, and SD Card slot, and removable battery, so i can have 2 batteries and go from 0% to 100% in 5 seconds.
Dejan92 said:
That, and SD Card slot, and removable battery, so i can have 2 batteries and go from 0% to 100% in 5 seconds.
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Those issues were my concern when I first moved to the Nexus 6 but I learned fast I wanted access to my device more but to each their own I say.
Surprisingly i dont miss the sc card or removable battery.
LuckyDragan said:
I can't seem to figure out what's wrong; I've tried both MTP and PTP file transfer, but my computer (Windows 10) isn't detecting the device in my file explorer, but it's showing uo in my Device Manager under Android Device > Google Nexus ADB Interface.
Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks.
Edit: Nevermind! Just uninstalled the driver and it worked just peachy.
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What do you see in file explorer on PC? Just "Internal Storage"? Can you navigate around to all folders on your phone from PC file explorer?
I am coming from Note 3 and Alliance ROM. I was able to navigate to all folders on that phone. On the 6P, I seem to have access to "Internal Storage" folder only from Win7 PC. Google USB drivers installed and rooted. Astro installed and provides access to all folders from the phone interface as it should. I would like to move and copy files between phone and PC like I used to in file explorer, instead, I have been moving them to Drive and then accessing them from Drive on the phone.
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Those issues were my concern when I first moved to the Nexus 6 but I learned fast I wanted access to my device more but to each their own I say.
Surprisingly i dont miss the sc card or removable battery.
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i don't miss having a removable battery, but i wish it were at least accessible. the difference in build between the 5X and 6P is unfortunate. i was excited to see the 5X teardown and how it was (reasonably) easy to get to the battery. hopefully in 2 years, this is still a performer.
I received my 6P today. I have both my previous phone and the 6P connected via USB to my desktop, when I click on the 6P internal storage, it won't let me create new folders so that I can copy from my previous device's storage card. I'm using the PTP option for file transfer since the other doesn't work.
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Hi, I'm back again with more craaaazy questions!
I'm finding since my recent fresh install of Remix OS that often when powering on the console, the WiFi option is switched off. And not only that, I cannot seemingly switch it back on. I don't think anything is wrong at the router end - we also use laptops, tablets and other gaming systems which connect just fine. And not only that but this seems to be an issue at the console end - the switch on the taskbar is off and I cannot turn it back on. This now results in me powering the MOJO down and then rebooting the system. It's a gamble then whether or not it will reboot with the WiFi working, as even after a reboot it may not restore the WiFi option.
Is there anything I can address to remedy this? What could be the cause? Thanks.
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Hi, I'm back again with more craaaazy questions!
I'm finding since my recent fresh install of Remix OS that often when powering on the console, the WiFi option is switched off. And not only that, I cannot seemingly switch it back on. I don't think anything is wrong at the router end - we also use laptops, tablets and other gaming systems which connect just fine. And not only that but this seems to be an issue at the console end - the switch on the taskbar is off and I cannot turn it back on. This now results in me powering the MOJO down and then rebooting the system. It's a gamble then whether or not it will reboot with the WiFi working, as even after a reboot it may not restore the WiFi option.
Is there anything I can address to remedy this? What could be the cause? Thanks.
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When mine was acting pretty much just like that, I did two things: moved two other wi-fi devices away from its general vicinity, and rebooted my router. Not sure which one fixed it but it's fixed.
Seems the MOJO is not well shielded against RFI. Not only did I have this problem, but a Roku streamer connected to the same projector will not function if the MOJO is powered up.
Rebooting your router periodically, say once a month or so, is good practice anyway. Leave it powered down for a few minutes just to make sure all its caches get cleared.
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When mine was acting pretty much just like that, I did two things: moved two other wi-fi devices away from its general vicinity, and rebooted my router. Not sure which one fixed it but it's fixed.
Seems the MOJO is not well shielded against RFI. Not only did I have this problem, but a Roku streamer connected to the same projector will not function if the MOJO is powered up.
Rebooting your router periodically, say once a month or so, is good practice anyway. Leave it powered down for a few minutes just to make sure all its caches get cleared.
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Thanks again for replying. Will give this a go.
We only have a fairly small living room, and there's always something nearby connected to the WiFi. I didn't realise the MOJO is prone to this issue. Thanks again though Kevin.
good info was having this issue also with CM12.1 thought it was maybe the rom
Yes it does seem to be the case. If the missus' Amazon tablet is nearby when booting up, the Mojo won't connect. If I move it like 6 feet away, it's fine.
The Ouya was similarly limited with wireless connection.
Oh interesting, my Mojo is right next to a wireless telephone maybe that's why I have this recurring problem? And likely my cell phone using wifi is right next to me as I do the reboot as well.
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Oh interesting, my Mojo is right next to a wireless telephone maybe that's why I have this recurring problem? And likely my cell phone using wifi is right next to me as I do the reboot as well.
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Actually I have realised over time that there is definitely an issue with WiFi on CM 12.1 and also Remix (I have installed and used both at one time or another). Sometimes when booting up it seems the wifi module simply doesn't load. I usually find if I do a quick reboot using the shutdown app that most times it will then boot up with it in place. Otherwise, I take my cue from the notifications area, and if the icon isn't there then to me the module hasn't loaded at boot time, and no amount of juggling other devices connected to WiFi will change that. Simply put, it's either a bug of the roms or the Mojo itself. I cannot say for certain as I have never used the stock OS, but I hear that people who do use that have not experienced the issue.
Unfortunately a quick reboot generally doesn't work for me. In fact, I have no idea what works, wifi just "eventually" reappears again.
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Unfortunately a quick reboot generally doesn't work for me. In fact, I have no idea what works, wifi just "eventually" reappears again.
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With Remix I have found it has to do with the micro SD card. Remove it and it boots fine. Which was not important to be because I was using an external HDD.
Phoenix4848 said:
With Remix I have found it has to do with the micro SD card. Remove it and it boots fine. Which was not important to be because I was using an external HDD.
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I'll try that next time, thanks.
Phoenix4848 said:
With Remix I have found it has to do with the micro SD card. Remove it and it boots fine. Which was not important to be because I was using an external HDD.
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Thanks for posting this. I have removed the 32Gb card I had installed, which was doing nothing anyway, and we'll see if it makes a difference.
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With Remix I have found it has to do with the micro SD card. Remove it and it boots fine. Which was not important to be because I was using an external HDD.
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Well, not wishing to curse anything here by saying this too soon, but I have to say that after removing the SD card I have indeed had no bother with the WiFi on CM 12.1 on my MOJO. I am most confused, but very pleased that it seems to be OK now. I must have rebooted the device a dozen times since removing the card and each time upon reboot the WiFi has been working as it should.
Have to thank you for posting up this little fix. I don't I would have even tried this without someone pointing me in the right direction. I'm gonna keep an eye on it and post up if anything changes, but so far we're looking good!
Quick bumpage to say, I'm over a couple of weeks in and since removing the SD card I've not had a single issue with the Wi-Fi on the MOJO, and I use it every day with many reboots. For any users still struggling with this issue, I'm using CM 12.1 now rather than Remix, but this fix works. I use a 2Tb hard drive with the console so there was really no need for the SD card. I was very happy to remove it and put it in my new phone.
Thanks again for the solution.