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can p3600 be overclocked?
thank you!!!!!!
PS. I have the pocketpchack4 and I overclock it to 450Mhz but I want more.......................!!
nope.. pocketpc hack doesn't really work. If you run benchmarks at 200, 400 and 450 mhz, you'll get the same readings. So far, nothing out there can really modify the cpu speed.
As far as I know, there's no working program so far.
hi,there are news?
i'll want overclock my device.
the p3600i have the same processor of p3600?it work @500mhz...good...!
p3600i dont have the same cpu as p3600
the cpu speed is set by the crystal and multiplier
if the multiplier is not able to change using software
one cant overclock
Rudegar said:
p3600i dont have the same cpu as p3600
the cpu speed is set by the crystal and multiplier
if the multiplier is not able to change using software
one cant overclock
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and then I can't overclock...bad bad bad...
it's impossible have cpu 500mhz...?
I think that was the same processor...
only the same processor as a pentium 1.4Ghz and pentium 1.8Ghz is the same processor
overclocking is running the component in this case the cpu out of specs
how many overclock a cpu can handle before freezing up varies alot
and can shorten it's lifespan and give alot shorter battery lenght
So I've been noticing somethin strange other then the experia z every single other high end device that will come out as of 2013 will be using a 1.7GHZ snapdragon the only high end device that will use a lower one is experia z why????? I mean the phone hasn't come out yet can't they just put the 1.7GHZ instead? why use a lower one 1.5GHZ from phones of the fourth quarter of 2012 its old tech!!!
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Calm down man, 1.5GHz quadcore is good for Android. Android really doesn't need such a high speeds
And CPU clock doesn't mean smoother device
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1.5Ghz Quad Core is not "only". And they all use exactly the same CPU which operates with 1,5-1,7Ghz speed. Clock speed isn't everything. Look at the iPhone - it uses dual core 1.2Ghz CPU - yet its performance is 5 times smoother than most quad core devices...
Dual core is more than enough for anything a smartphone might need to do - as long as you put good software on it.
gabrielpina4 said:
So I've been noticing somethin strange other then the experia z every single other high end device that will come out as of 2013 will be using a 1.7GHZ snapdragon the only high end device that will use a lower one is experia z why????? I mean the phone hasn't come out yet can't they just put the 1.7GHZ instead? why use a lower one 1.5GHZ from phones of the fourth quarter of 2012 its old tech!!!
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Seriously? "Only" on a quad core 1.5ghz CPU for a smartphone? What are you gonna run on your phone that would require you more? Or do you just want your battery to drain more for no possible reasons? Some users even just underclock for the sake of saving battery.
If you ask me I buy this because of the features and the RAM not because of processor clock.
If you ever let me choose I would rather go for a 1ghz dual core processor with 4GB RAM than having a 2ghz quad core processor with 2GB RAM.
The only reason why I would want the Qualcomm S4 Pro processor is because of adreno 320.
A dual core is good enough dude .. this is a quad core lol
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No offense but you just sound like your trolling. Same goes for your other thread too
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No offense but you just sound like your trolling. Same goes for your other thread too
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I agree. I think he's trolling.
Riyal said:
Seriously? "Only" on a quad core 1.5ghz CPU for a smartphone? What are you gonna run on your phone that would require you more? Or do you just want your battery to drain more for no possible reasons? Some users even just underclock for the sake of saving battery.
If you ask me I buy this because of the features and the RAM not because of processor clock.
If you ever let me choose I would rather go for a 1ghz dual core processor with 4GB RAM than having a 2ghz quad core processor with 2GB RAM.
The only reason why I would want the Qualcomm S4 Pro processor is because of adreno 320.
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What would be the purpose of 4GB of RAM in a smartphone are you running Photoshop or a VM? Where did this stigma that more cores is equivalent to less efficient power use. More asynchronous cores allow for more accurate scaling of processing power to needs, thus higher power efficiency because the CPU spends less time in higher power states.
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What would be the purpose of 4GB of RAM in a smartphone are you running Photoshop or a VM? Where did this stigma that mire cores is equivalent to less efficient power use. More asynchronous cores allow for more accurate scaling of processing power to needs, thus higher power efficiency because the CPU spends less time in higher power states.
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Buddy android runs Dalvik VM and our GPU uses dedicated RAM for processing certain graphic tasks. So yes we are running a VM on our mobile phones.
Also with a proper monitoring app you could see for yourself which uses more and needs more resource here. whether processing or memory.
Didn't you even wonder why our phones consume almost 700mb RAM without even a single foreground application open? Yet it sits idle in a single core and remains in between 400mhz+ to 900mhz?
Also I didn't say that more cores consumes more power in my statement but still since each core requires power to run it should also consume more. Also I didn't mention anything about number of core I was talking about the clocks. Since the higher the clock requires more Amperes. Still underclocking your phone by 500mhz would prolly just save about 2% of your battery anyways.
you don't need higher cpu clock to get a pocket heater for this winter
My Optimus G has the same cpu an the thermal throttling is kikin in pretty fast. This 1.7Ghz S4pro will thermal throttle as fast or even faster, rendering numerical advantage meaningless.
I don't want to feed the troll but I also think dual core is good enough.
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Buddy android runs Dalvik VM and our GPU uses dedicated RAM for processing certain graphic tasks. So yes we are running a VM on our mobile phones.
Also with a proper monitoring app you could see for yourself which uses more and needs more resource here. whether processing or memory.
Didn't you even wonder why our phones consume almost 700mb RAM without even a single foreground application open? Yet it sits idle in a single core and remains in between 400mhz+ to 900mhz?
Also I didn't say that more cores consumes more power in my statement but still since each core requires power to run it should also consume more. Also I didn't mention anything about number of core I was talking about the clocks. Since the higher the clock requires more Amperes. Still underclocking your phone by 500mhz would prolly just save about 2% of your battery anyways.
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I have yet to see my Xperia ZL have less than 800MB of free an extra 2GB would be a total waste. And you simply stated you'd rather have a dual than a quad, peak frequency means very little except for potential processing power. Just because your CPU is capable of a higher clock speed doesn't mean it will idle any higher. Likewise the only difference between a quad with a single utilized core and a dual with a single utilized core is the minute amount if extra leakage current for the quad.
I think you meant to say that higher frequencies may need more voltage, amperage has very little to do with CPU frequency scaling.
And obviously the memory overhead for a virtualized process i.e. Dalvik VM is not even in the same league as a system VM.
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I have yet to see my Xperia ZL have less than 800MB of free an extra 2GB would be a total waste. And you simply stated you'd rather have a dual than a quad, peak frequency means very little except for potential processing power. Just because your CPU is capable of a higher clock speed doesn't mean it will idle any higher. Likewise the only difference between a quad with a single utilized core and a dual with a single utilized core is the minute amount if extra leakage current for the quad.
I think you meant to say that higher frequencies may need more voltage, amperage has very little to do with CPU frequency scaling.
And obviously the memory overhead for a virtualized process i.e. Dalvik VM is not even in the same league as a system VM.
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Buddy that 800mb is without running any foreground applications other than either Settings app or the homescreen. Like I said try running some monitoring apps on the background and try using the browser then maybe try loading some sites with lots of javascript codes in it.
Or if you like try launching 4 types of angry birds and the 2 temple run games simultaneously without killing one of them and let's see if OOM doesn't kick in and kill any of them.
Regarding CPU cores please state something that requires a quad core processor. The smoothness of the UI your experiencing is because of the type of processor your phone is using "The Snapdragon S4 Pro" even if you disable all the extra cores in it you won't feel anything different unless of course you'll run some benchmark tools or video decoding stuffs in there.
And just FYI more cores doesn't mean greater processing power. It's more cores = more processes it can handle.
And on the CPU freq clocks who said t that amperes doesn't increase on each frequency table? Please take a look at qualcomm's document on their site regarding it's processors so you would know how they calculate it. Voltage is just used to provide more electricity to power up the processor but voltage alone won't make a processor active.
This discussion is going to the wrong way.
Thread closed.
I've been using XBMC on the FireTV fairly successfully but wished it was a bit snappier. Thinking back to my days with the Galaxy S3, I remembered a great app called Seeder.
From the Play Store listing:
Seeder is a service for root users. It assists the kernel in "topping off" the entropy pool by re-seeding it with data from the non-blocking (high performance) random device. Optionally, it can also help alleviate MMC I/O contention by extending the I/O queue, allowing the I/O scheduler to make better decisions, and combine more writes.
After installing and enabling the moderate option on my FireTV, XBMC loads faster and navigates through menus much smoother. An essential app and well worth the purchase in my opinion.
Setup:
Root your FireTV (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783805)
Install Google Play Store (http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-install-the-google-play-store-on-the-amazon-fire-tv/)
Download Seeder (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder&hl=en)
Give Seeder root permissions
Select Start on Boot
Choose Moderate
Profit!
Seeder ($2.50) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder&hl=en
Thanks for your tip. Does Anyone else recommends it? I am quite satisfied with the firetv performance but i am all forward with improvements
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It does boost performance,even with my "overclocked" settings already made.
I quote it because I can't actually overclock the Fire TV because the lack of unlocked bootloader.
I can only change governor types to "Performance" on GPU,and "interactive" on all four CPU cores to boost them a bit.
I also have two booster apps for visual and touch performance increases,which prove to work really well.
I want to OC the GPU to a minimum 400Mhz and maximum 500Mhz to match the stronger equivalent GPU's 450Mhz and 550Mhz OC settings.
Maybe also get the CPUs on at least 1.9 Ghz or 2.0Ghz as the maximum with 500Mhz as the forced minimum.
When bootloader unlocking is possible,I want to find a fix for the kernel panic rebooting issue with Reicast caused by instability with certain Android ROMs.
retroben said:
It does boost performance,even with my "overclocked" settings already made.
I quote it because I can't actually overclock the Fire TV because the lack of unlocked bootloader.
I can only change governor types to "Performance" on GPU,and "interactive" on all four CPU cores to boost them a bit.
I also have two booster apps for visual and touch performance increases,which prove to work really well.
I want to OC the GPU to a minimum 400Mhz and maximum 500Mhz to match the stronger equivalent GPU's 450Mhz and 550Mhz OC settings.
Maybe also get the CPUs on at least 1.9 Ghz or 2.0Ghz as the maximum with 500Mhz as the forced minimum.
When bootloader unlocking is possible,I want to find a fix for the kernel panic rebooting issue with Reicast caused by instability with certain Android ROMs.
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Nothing...NOTHING about what you're doing is even remotely considered overclocking....
OC is pushing hardware past it's max performance out of the box or standard state. CPU's downclock themselves for power savings. You telling it to run at a different minimum isn't OC'ing, you're just telling it to not downclock itself so far.
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Nothing...NOTHING about what you're doing is even remotely considered overclocking....
OC is pushing hardware past it's max performance out of the box or standard state. CPU's downclock themselves for power savings. You telling it to run at a different minimum isn't OC'ing, you're just telling it to not downclock itself so far.
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Lighten up. In case you missed it he said he can't overclock and even pointed out his use of quotes.
If you want to be nit picky overclocking is not pushing hardware past it's max performance but TO it. Overclocking takes the hardware past factory spec, which you could call "standard state" but that is never near the max. It is set for stability and longevity not necessarily the fastest performance.
Intel used to push a new chip until it crashed then dropped it a notch and called it XGHz. It's why overclocking was so limited without changing voltage and needing extra and even extreme cooling. AMD always designed a chip to have plenty of room to grow and why they support overclocking and enabling extra cores.
AMD now has some extremely powerful multicore CPU processors up to 5.0Ghz!
It's called AMD FX-9590.
Beat that,intel!
Confirmed. . Seeder 2.0 actually does speed up the just about everything from watching streaming movies to using XBMC, except your Internet. . Highly recommended. Use the setting above and trickster mod.
retroben said:
AMD now has some extremely powerful multicore CPU processors up to 5.0Ghz!
It's called AMD FX-9590.
Beat that,intel!
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intel destroys amd! and thats a fact! a 4.4 ghz i7 would still beat that 5 ghz amd in benchmarks! so its already been done
rontonomo said:
intel destroys amd! and thats a fact! a 4.4 ghz i7 would still beat that 5 ghz amd in benchmarks! so its already been done
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Not to go further off topic but benchmarks mean literally squat VS real world use.
I want to raise question is it possible to overclock the CPU, or GPU or memory speed. We all know that ze550kl / z00l performance with msm8916. Is almost in the limit to run apps and games, wanted to know if possible or not, and if there is any development has this respect. I like the device and it is great but it is clear that it is getting weak in the matter of hardware, if someone can work in this respect to give a breath / power to our device
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I want to raise question is it possible to overclock the CPU, or GPU or memory speed. We all know that ze550kl / z00l performance with msm8916. Is almost in the limit to run apps and games, wanted to know if possible or not, and if there is any development has this respect. I like the device and it is great but it is clear that it is getting weak in the matter of hardware, if someone can work in this respect to give a breath / power to our device
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i don't think so , if its possible to overclock the processor to its frequency,
you can costumize it too max frequency of it or to lower , as u need
But if is then i would love like to know too
I am already extracting the maximum, from him that I can of him, already put using ex kernel, with governor ordenad, frequency of 200mhz @ 12000mhz, and simple GPU ordered frequency of 200mhz to 400mhz, active zram of 512mb, and entropy of 128/256, then Of course, here with standard frequency of the paddle extracting nothing more than that, the problem and that we have a large bottleneck in memory lpddr3 of 533mhz, that opera and 32bit, there is a single channel giving bandwidth of 4.2gb / s that It has to be split between CPU and GPU. What is clearly one of the pro soc power limiter, I do not know much about the arm architecture, but I can not do over clock in lpddr3 memory, since I did not see any software or tutoring Citing this. Although this would be a solution, if you do over clock in the CPU or ns GPU will force the clock controller up what will increase the memory performance consequently, something else, not good will lock the clock at maximum in 1200mhz and GPU at 400mhz, as there will be a large power consumption and the performance will be limited by the cords of the tempering control and the low frequency of the RAM, # excuse me to have been so far more enthusiastic about hardware,
even with my old htc explorer i could increase cpu clocsk from 600mhz to 900mhz why we cant do it on zenfone 2 just we need good developer and kernel
it's up to the hardware
If you look at the specs from qualcom it has a max speed and not every device is possible to reach the max, but if you have the proper kernel you can reach that speed and "overclock"
hi
i am new but i cant find a way for see the firtst 1,5 ghz cores work....all cpu app i can find see me only work the last 4 core with 1,2 ghz...
please help me unlock the firt 4 core are everytime stopped thnx for help
Those kick in only when you are doing something "hard" in that time. Like benchmarking in background.
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Those kick in only when you are doing something "hard" in that time. Like benchmarking in background.
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i try run all test and i dont see one time the big core work, they are stopped every time...( try pc mark but dont work he crash after 4k encoding video) with kernel auiditior i can active all 8 core...now they work everytime and i can set governor for each processor...
but other app like cpuz dont find the first processor they see only the last 4 core... ok maybe with bench i can see all cores work but is very hard find a way for check the correct work for governor and the phone processor work fine....
if u dont have root cpu app dont find any governor...or see only one processor...
Those are limitations of the apps themselves or your OS.
I have the official N (rooted with ElementalX) and CPU-Z sees all the cores.
Also there are never supposed to work all 8 in the same time, only a group/cluster of 4 at one time, it is not a straight-up 8 core CPU. They are not "equal" in respect of performance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_big.LITTLE
Different combinations of Governors and Schedulers produce different results.
PS: The newer Snapdragon 625, that is present in G5 Plus, is listed as a true 8 core: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/625
The 617 is a big.LITTLE octa-core, not a true 8-core CPU such as the 625, like @SoNic67 said. The 617 has one cluster running up to 1.5-1.6 GHz (depending on the kernel), and one cluster that generally runs from 500 MHz-1200 MHz.
The little cluster, or the 500-1200 MHz cluster, is fine for basic tasks, such as UI, scrolling, etc. However, in games, all cores will online (or at least that's the point). Some apps are not threaded for 8 cores and thus will not utilize, or need, 8 cores.
Also, in reality, the 4 "big" cores make very little difference in terms of performance. I did 2 benches in another thread, where Antutu came up 40K with 4 cores and 45k with 8 cores. Although this seems like a large performance decrease, without the big cores the phone was cool, still ran quick, and drained far less battery.
Finally, having 8 cores also can introduce performance deficits as well, especially if your hotplug is inefficient (there may be delays in turning on cores, resulting in UI jank). I thus recommend simply leaving them off- better battery, cooling, and still decent performance.
thx for support and continue OS is amazing gw.
negusp said:
The 617 is a big.LITTLE octa-core, not a true 8-core CPU such as the 625, like @SoNic67 said. The 617 has one cluster running up to 1.5-1.6 GHz (depending on the kernel), and one cluster that generally runs from 500 MHz-1200 MHz.
The little cluster, or the 500-1200 MHz cluster, is fine for basic tasks, such as UI, scrolling, etc. However, in games, all cores will online (or at least that's the point). Some apps are not threaded for 8 cores and thus will not utilize, or need, 8 cores.
Also, in reality, the 4 "big" cores make very little difference in terms of performance. I did 2 benches in another thread, where Antutu came up 40K with 4 cores and 45k with 8 cores. Although this seems like a large performance decrease, without the big cores the phone was cool, still ran quick, and drained far less battery.
Finally, having 8 cores also can introduce performance deficits as well, especially if your hotplug is inefficient (there may be delays in turning on cores, resulting in UI jank). I thus recommend simply leaving them off- better battery, cooling, and still decent performance.
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