Bloatware? - Moto E4 Questions & Answers

Okay so recently I have rooted my E4 (Sprint) and can't seem to uninstall system apps. It comes with face book and all that other Sprint bloat. But when i use an app to try to uninstall them, they just stay there. Any help? I'm currently rooted with magisk 13.3 and have xposed installed along with busy box.

install root explorer app and try manually deleting apps (/system/app) (/system/priv-app)
This will work for sure

I mentioned this here https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e4/how-to/how-to-disable-bloat-wear-qualcomm-t3655452

kartik verma said:
install root explorer app and try manually deleting apps (/system/app) (/system/priv-app)
This will work for sure
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I've tried using ES file explorer pro and the Facebook or Sprint apps aren't in any of those folders for some reason...

amarc78 said:
I mentioned this here https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e4/how-to/how-to-disable-bloat-wear-qualcomm-t3655452
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Any way of doing this without a PC? I'm currently away from home and need something mobile

What app are you using to remove the apps? Titanium Backup? I've had TBU not uninstall some apps for whatever reason, but link2sd was able to remove apps. Might want to try it.

I've noticed some of the apps that are carrier installed are in the oem folder, deleted them and problem solved. This was on a metro PCS variant.

This is the oem folder, I used FX file explorer.

KyleBryant said:
This is the oem folder, I used FX file explorer.
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I have the Sprint version but when I try to erase any app from those folders the device freezes

It was freezing on me when I was using root explorer pro, that's why I ended up switching to FX. Also when you rooted your device did you do a wipe and then flash noverity and then su because if you didn't do the wipe your phone might still be encrypted and it won't allow you to modify system folders.

KyleBryant said:
It was freezing on me when I was using root explorer pro, that's why I ended up switching to FX. Also when you rooted your device did you do a wipe and then flash noverity and then su because if you didn't do the wipe your phone might still be encrypted and it won't allow you to modify system folders.
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I can't get it to work with FX either. It just freezes the phone. I don't get why it works for you.
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You could try deleting them in the file browser on twrp

That is how I had said I to do it in the thread I started explaining how to do it. This users problem is they can't find the option to mount the OEM folder in twrp to be able to see the contents in the file manager to edit it.
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KyleBryant said:
It was freezing on me when I was using root explorer pro, that's why I ended up switching to FX. Also when you rooted your device did you do a wipe and then flash noverity and then su because if you didn't do the wipe your phone might still be encrypted and it won't allow you to modify system folders.
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I formatted the system, flashed magisk then noverity

In order to make it work for me I had to format data in twrp then reboot twrp and then flash noverity first then your root of choice and then it worked.

I REALLY don't want to format again only to find out it may not work..

KyleBryant said:
In order to make it work for me I had to format data in twrp then reboot twrp and then flash noverity first then your root of choice and then it worked.
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Wait what root options do I have? Does chain fire's root work?

thereallinkieishere said:
Wait what root options do I have? Does chain fire's root work?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445 first post in this thread explains how to root without TWRP.

Anything other than Magisk??

thereallinkieishere said:
Anything other than Magisk??
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Pph superuser

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Titanium backup not working on 6.0.1

I can't delete any system apps with it anymore, does anybody else have the same problem or even a fix for it?
Working fine on 6.01 for me, Did you try uninstalling and reinstalling it?
I just updated to 6.0.1 myself, rooted using superSU 2.61. I too cannot delete system apps using titanium. I tried to uninstalled and reinstall the app (via playstore) but it didn't help.
I also tried to do the same via the root explorer option in ES file explorer and it didn't work. I tried to toggle the root explorer option in ES, but after I turned it off I couldn't turn it on again. Root checker does say that I have root, and other root apps e.g. adaway, xprivacy still work.
Any help and suggestion is most welcome!
case-sensitive said:
I just updated to 6.0.1 myself, rooted using superSU 2.61. I too cannot delete system apps using titanium. I tried to uninstalled and reinstall the app (via playstore) but it didn't help.
I also tried to do the same via the root explorer option in ES file explorer and it didn't work. I tried to toggle the root explorer option in ES, but after I turned it off I couldn't turn it on again. Root checker does say that I have root, and other root apps e.g. adaway, xprivacy still work.
Any help and suggestion is most welcome!
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hey guys, "system less root"
That would modify system... Just freeze the apps.
geoff5093 said:
That would modify system... Just freeze the apps.
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Some people still want to recover the space.
With systemless root you will need to modify the system in TWRP to get titanium and ES working correctly.
It's as simple as going into TWRP and mounting the system R/W.
You then need to open the terminal in the following places:
/system/bin and execute "touch su"
/system/xbin and execute "touch su"
This will create zero byte files for SuperSu to come along and swap/link to on boot so that ES and TiBu can ask for root and get it.
They will then operate as you expect.; with the caveat that you are on your own when you start tinkering and may break something.
tech_head said:
Some people still want to recover the space.
With systemless root you will need to modify the system in TWRP to get titanium and ES working correctly.
It's as simple as going into TWRP and mounting the system R/W.
You then need to open the terminal in the following places:
/system/bin and execute "touch su"
/system/xbin and execute "touch su"
This will create zero byte files for SuperSu to come along and swap/link to on boot so that ES and TiBu can ask for root and get it.
They will then operate as you expect.; with the caveat that you are on your own when you start tinkering and may break something.
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Pretty sure you lose Android Pay with this method though, just FYI if you care about that.
But if you are running Xposed you broke it anyway. There is a way to get it working.
You will need to remove the empty su files you just created to be able to add cards.
You will need to use a Xposed module to hide modifications to the system so that the device check comes back clean.
It's a pain, but if you want Xposed, TiBu, ES and Android Pay, that is the price.
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I usually use this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp
I'm not on 6.0.1 at the moment so I can't test if it works. Anyone wanna test it out and report back?
WizeGuyDezignz said:
I usually use this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp
I'm not on 6.0.1 at the moment so I can't test if it works. Anyone wanna test it out and report back?
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Doesn't work. Apps restore themselves.

dirty santa root but no root please help

so i been dealing with this root methoed for awhile and i finaily got twrp on my phone and all including SU
but i install ccleaner and it shows my phone s not rooted so what can i do to fix this
i have SU 2.82 i did the advanced wipe on cache and dlvik i did a format data still no root is showen
you have to install the su zip AFTER doing everything else. If you did format data you deleted your root if it was on there
me2151 said:
you have to install the su zip AFTER doing everything else. If you did format data you deleted your root if it was on there
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well i am doing it again this time i format data then install su then wipe dilvik cache and cache so lets see what happens
me2151 said:
you have to install the su zip AFTER doing everything else. If you did format data you deleted your root if it was on there
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ok its still a no go. no root
LASERWOLF452 said:
ok its still a no go. no root
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try using supersu2.79 and not 2.82
me2151 said:
try using supersu2.79 and not 2.82
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ok i went back to twrp, format data, installed su 2.79 wipe dilvik and cache, still no root
me2151 said:
try using supersu2.79 and not 2.82
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ok this makes no since, i gave up useing ccleaner (cause it has a root checker) and i installed titanium backup and it was able to trigger the SU
so why not ccleaner to get SU going cause i use it to uninstall the BS apps verizon puts on the phones
LASERWOLF452 said:
ok this makes no since, i gave up useing ccleaner (cause it has a root checker) and i installed titanium backup and it was able to trigger the SU
so why not ccleaner to get SU going cause i use it to uninstall the BS apps verizon puts on the phones
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ccleaner like many old apps have not been updated to work properly with system-less root. They are still looking for the su binary under system/bin or system/xbin. You'll need to contact the app developer about that. Alternatively, you can go into SuperSU and have it install the binary for old-school root but I don't recommend it.
You can use a ton of other apps to get rid of the Verizon bloat (titanium backup being one of them).
Artimis said:
ccleaner like many old apps have not been updated to work properly with system-less root. They are still looking for the su binary under system/bin or system/xbin. You'll need to contact the app developer about that. Alternatively, you can go into SuperSU and have it install the binary for old-school root but I don't recommend it.
You can use a ton of other apps to get rid of the Verizon bloat (titanium backup being one of them).
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to be honest with you, i feel dumb lol this is the first systemless root i ever messed with i am used to the old ways but i am happy i found out this phone is rooted i was going everywhere like crazy like why the hell is there no root but i figured it out its a good method that you made along woth others i did it so many times i just memorised this method hehe commands and all

App to system using twrp only

Its preaty simple. I just want to flash twrp, reboot to trwp recovery mode, go to file manager, move a installed app to system/app and then reboot and use my phone as usual. Have someone tried this?
no one ?
sleaker said:
Its preaty simple. I just want to flash twrp, reboot to trwp recovery mode, go to file manager, move a installed app to system/app and then reboot and use my phone as usual. Have someone tried this?
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Yes, always. But you need root to change the permissions of the app.
Just root and use file explorer to copy apps to system/app or system/priv-app and set permissions.
callumbr1 said:
Yes, always. But you need root to change the permissions of the app.
Just root and use file explorer to copy apps to system/app or system/priv-app and set permissions.
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You can do this via twrp

Unable to modify /system folder

I've looked all over and I'm unable to find a solution or even what's stopping me from modifying the /system folder in the root directory. I can remove files from that folder and all of it's subfolders but I'm unable to add any files into that directory. I am rooted on the T-mobile OnePlus 6t that has been converted to the international ROM. I know my root works cause I can perform other root functions. I also cannot modify the /system folder from TWRP either which is really strange to me. Also, when TWRP prompts me to install the app, it just reboots recovery since it's trying to install it as a system app which I can't do for this odd reason I have yet to find out. This issue all of a sudden showed up after an OTA update and re-rooting after. I have tried reinstalling TWRP, Magisk and Oxygen OS itself but the issue persists. I have also tried running "reboot disemmcwp" as root in a terminal window AND using adb but I guess that command no longer works. Any suggestions welcome as this is the last place I can find an answer to this issue.
Edit: found out I'm unable to uninstall system apps for some reason. So the issue isn't space related.
Toilet Clauger said:
I've looked all over and I'm unable to find a solution or even what's stopping me from modifying the /system folder in the root directory. I can remove files from that folder and all of it's subfolders but I'm unable to add any files into that directory. I am rooted on the T-mobile OnePlus 6t that has been converted to the international ROM. I know my root works cause I can perform other root functions. I also cannot modify the /system folder from TWRP either which is really strange to me. Also, when TWRP prompts me to install the app, it just reboots recovery since it's trying to install it as a system app which I can't do for this odd reason I have yet to find out. This issue all of a sudden showed up after an OTA update and re-rooting after. I have tried reinstalling TWRP, Magisk and Oxygen OS itself but the issue persists. I have also tried running "reboot disemmcwp" as root in a terminal window AND using adb but I guess that command no longer works. Any suggestions welcome as this is the last place I can find an answer to this issue.
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Known issue that in the Newer OxygenOS versions there is no free space in /system. I'd download Solid Explorer and check the Free Space in the Root Directory.
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Mannan Qamar said:
Known issue that in the Newer OxygenOS versions there is no free space in /system. I'd download Solid Explorer and check the Free Space in the Root Directory.
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I've thought about that before. I use root explorer and can see there's more space than needed for the files I want to insert. Is there some buffer space needed in there and how much?
Toilet Clauger said:
I've thought about that before. I use root explorer and can see there's more space than needed for the files I want to insert. Is there some buffer space needed in there and how much?
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Well, if you go to magisk and select core only mode then reboot you will be able to modify system
toolhas4degrees said:
Well, if you go to magisk and select core only mode then reboot you will be able to modify system
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I was actually able to find the issue. Space was the issue. I guess there's a space buffer needed from what a file explorer says is left and what's actually left. I uninstalled a couple system apps I disable anyway and was able to insert files/apps into system again.
I made space easy I have the new OnePlus camera apk 125mb the old one is 67mb

System partition read-only

I tried modifying the system partition in root explorer but it says failed. I am rooted with magisk and other root applications work fine. Wanted to install adaway but that too failed. How to fix this?
Veestaai said:
I tried modifying the system partition in root explorer but it says failed. I am rooted with magisk and other root applications work fine. Wanted to install adaway but that too failed. How to fix this?
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Use the adaway systemless
cultofluna said:
Use the adaway systemless
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I got it working thanks! I also want to install the youtube vanced app ver 14.21.54 using root, but can't make changes to the system folder. Also want to remove some system apps by deleting them from the folder. Any help?
Veestaai said:
I got it working thanks! I also want to install the youtube vanced app ver 14.21.54 using root, but can't make changes to the system folder. Also want to remove some system apps by deleting them from the folder. Any help?
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Im using youtube vanched non rooted version..
For system apps , using sd maid app to freeze them..

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