Where is android 7.1.x for S8+? - Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers

The last Samsung phone I owned was a Galaxy S3, a few years later I bought the Galaxy S8+. My previous phone (the Z5 already has android 7.1 for months now). Even then people on XDA were complaining about how slow Sony updates their phones. But now I'm here, with the S8+ and I'm wondering, why does the S8+ not have android 7.1 yet? Is there any schedule available of Samsung updating this phone. There's also so little development. Back in the days the Galaxy phones had so much development going on, which I missed.
I'm happy with this phone and android 7.0, but android 8 is almost coming and were still running on 7.0.

the step from 7.0 to 7.1 is not that big...

At all but the note 8 will be first

I've been in the Motorola community for the last 3 years, but I think the lack of development has to do with Knox.
Also, is bought this phone knowing that updates were going to be slow, and I am fine with that. After years of custom roms, I am getting tired of doing workarounds just to get things to work. I am happy to have things just work.

kingersj1 said:
I've been in the Motorola community for the last 3 years, but I think the lack of development has to do with Knox.
Also, is bought this phone knowing that updates were going to be slow, and I am fine with that. After years of custom roms, I am getting tired of doing workarounds just to get things to work. I am happy to have things just work.
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I agree with this, the only reason I rooted my phone was to use AdAway and mainly to use Viper4Android. Which I'm regretting a little, since I can't use Secure Folder, but I'm hoping someone manages to make it work... With Knox tripped. Now a stock ROMs are so good that rooting isn't needed as often to require something.
Although people say the step from 7.0 to 7.1 aint big, progress is progess and in my eyes Samsung is taking a long time to update this phone.

Yeah but its a bummer seeing £500 phones come out with it (Blackbury, One+) come to mind and my £850 flagship is still running 7.0
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More likely Samsung is going to skip 7.1 and we will get upgrade to 8.0
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Why does anyone care. It's just a number. We've got the latest security patch and apart from that 7.1.x brought basically nothing new.
Better Samsung invests their time into a timely 8.0 release.

I care. Android 7.0 has a bug in its (default) TLS implementation which makes it not work with implementations / servers which offer higher ec curves than 256 (such as secp384r1 or secp521r1). If any of those curves are offered as preferred, the whole TLS connection fails (instead of just using a lower curve, if offered; or a non-EC cipher suite). This bug has real world implications. E.g. davdroid (caldav / cardav sync adapter) fails with any TLS server using such a setup. To make matters worse in nginx this can only be configured globally, i.e. for all domains served. While the config option is available in server{} statements, it doesn't have any effect. The nginx developers claim this is due to a bug in OpenSSL.
Anyways, the true issue is Android 7.0 failing. This has been fixed by Google in 7.1. Of course Samsung could backport this fix, and remain at 7.0. But they didn't even do that. Given that this bug is known for a long time and has been fixed (in 7.1) for a long time this is really bad support for a such a premium phone.

Tiges said:
More likely Samsung is going to skip 7.1 and we will get upgrade to 8.0
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domsch1988 said:
Why does anyone care. It's just a number. We've got the latest security patch and apart from that 7.1.x brought basically nothing new.
Better Samsung invests their time into a timely 8.0 release.
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yes I also think that samsung will skip 7.1 to directly go to 8.0, and as 7.1 is not that big and Samsung is not very quick even for big os upgrades

robhug said:
yes I also think that samsung will skip 7.1 to directly go to 8.0, and as 7.1 is not that big and Samsung is not very quick even for big os upgrades
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Yeah so we probably will get 8.0 in 2018
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I also own LG G5 (T-Mobile) and it has 7.0 still. I wish Samsung was faster on updates. I am waiting on Nokia 8

Charkatak said:
I also own LG G5 (T-Mobile) and it has 7.0 still. I wish Samsung was faster on updates. I am waiting on Nokia 8
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I'm really surprised to say that, but the Nokia 8 looks like a really great phone. They seem to have nailed it pretty much.

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Post all information about Note PRO getting or not Android 6.0 Marshmallow here!

Hi everyone! I created this thread to collect any info about getting a Marshmallow update on our beloved Note PRO.
Did Sammy say anything about it?
Greetings!
Boy that would be nice for it to be updated to 6.x but I'm not holding my breath. I read an article that said our tablets are considered old and outdated as the came out Feb 2014... Nice.
FYI just updated Nexus 7 to 6.0 and it's from 2013.
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rodnok1 said:
Boy that would be nice for it to be updated to 6.x but I'm not holding my breath. I read an article that said our tablets are considered old and outdated as the came out Feb 2014... Nice.
FYI just updated Nexus 7 to 6.0 and it's from 2013.
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Considering the tablet is less than two years old, and Samsung has a pretty good track record of providing OS updates during the first 2 years, I'd say chances are good. But, it'll probably be next fall when the "N" release is ready to drop. haha
With that said, the one factor that I think works against the Note Pro is the fact that it probably didn't sell very many units. It was incredibly expensive, and most people simply didn't want a tablet that big.
Time will tell.
I doubt it we haven't even got lollipop yet so the chance of marshmallow is 0%
Kohrok said:
I doubt it we haven't even got lollipop yet so the chance of marshmallow is 0%
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Well, I got the OTA update to Lollipop (5.0) two weeks ago. I am in Poland.
So IF we'll get the 6.0, it will be probably muuuch later than anyone else. My Nexus 6 hasn't got it yet.
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I doubt it we haven't even got lollipop yet so the chance of marshmallow is 0%
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I'm not sure what you mean, I'm on 5.0.2 right now, which is lollipop. The only feature I care about on Android M is Doze. My tablet drain about 20% overnight or when not in use for a day and I feel like Doze can bring that down to 5% or less so it's comparable to Ipad's standby time. I've tried Greenify and other similar "sleep" applications and they end up not saving any battery.
Idk our hardware is quite similer to Note3 hardware which wont get M !!
Just dont get your hopes so high guys since this company wont listen or even care about us loyal customers !
Trust me i've been in a situation like this before with my Note2.
Anyway i don't use my tablet as a social media device as they are the most reason to drain battery so quickly especially viber also turn off location completly.
So i really dont care about google so called doze or whatever sorcery they keep throwing at us as some marketing s**t !!!
Kohrok said:
I doubt it we haven't even got lollipop yet so the chance of marshmallow is 0%
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I'm on 5.1.1 from Samsung on my Verizon Note Pro.
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I'm not sure what you mean, I'm on 5.0.2 right now, which is lollipop. The only feature I care about on Android M is Doze. My tablet drain about 20% overnight or when not in use for a day and I feel like Doze can bring that down to 5% or less so it's comparable to Ipad's standby time. I've tried Greenify and other similar "sleep" applications and they end up not saving any battery.
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If you are sure that there is no app eating your power, I'm pretty sure that you have a defective battery that you should consider to substitute.
pgackowski said:
Well, I got the OTA update to Lollipop (5.0) two weeks ago. I am in Poland.
So IF we'll get the 6.0, it will be probably muuuch later than anyone else. My Nexus 6 hasn't got it yet.
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Still on 4.4.2 here in the UK so no we still havnt recieved lollipop yet and 2 weeks ago Andriod L was realesed a year ago most google devices are using marshmallow now If you take Samsungs time scale as a factor google will have upgraded all there machines to 8.0 by the time we would recieve 6.0, so like I said I doubt very much they will upgrade an old tablet that didn't sell well to Marshmallow. If by some miracle they do, it will be 2 years out of date so again no real point to.
I've been researching about an update for my Verizon p905v for several days now because I switched to T-Mobile a few months ago and they don't sell this tablet so I didn't trade it in. I just added it to my account and put T-Mobile's sum card in it but the tablet won't recognize the sun card and still thinks it's a Verizon tablet, but that's off topic, just said that to explain why I couldn't update through the settings. Anyway, through Kies I was able to update to 5.1.1 a week or two ago. I read somewhere why researching this that the p905v WILL be getting the 6.0 update! It listed a few Samsung devices and the Note Pro 12.2 was the last one on the list to be getting it. I'll try to find where I read that and post a link here if I can find it again. FYI, you can't judge the update or timeline by comparing to any Nexus device, that site also said all Nexus devices will get the update first since they are Google devices. Hope this helps answer some questions, again I'll post a link to that site if I can find it.
bambam4life said:
I've been researching about an update for my Verizon p905v for several days now because I switched to T-Mobile a few months ago and they don't sell this tablet so I didn't trade it in. I just added it to my account and put T-Mobile's sum card in it but the tablet won't recognize the sun card and still thinks it's a Verizon tablet, but that's off topic, just said that to explain why I couldn't update through the settings. Anyway, through Kies I was able to update to 5.1.1 a week or two ago. I read somewhere why researching this that the p905v WILL be getting the 6.0 update! It listed a few Samsung devices and the Note Pro 12.2 was the last one on the list to be getting it. I'll try to find where I read that and post a link here if I can find it again. FYI, you can't judge the update or timeline by comparing to any Nexus device, that site also said all Nexus devices will get the update first since they are Google devices. Hope this helps answer some questions, again I'll post a link to that site if I can find it.
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Verizon is CDMA and TMobile is GSM. The two are not compatible. It will not work unless the tablet has both radios. Not sure if the note PRO has a GSM radio. If it does, then you will need to turn the radio on. Probably by loading a custom ROM.
pgackowski said:
Well, I got the OTA update to Lollipop (5.0) two weeks ago. I am in Poland.
So IF we'll get the 6.0, it will be probably muuuch later than anyone else. My Nexus 6 hasn't got it yet.
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if you check firmwares and countries , you will see that the 100% samsung is not updated while the "sponsorshiped" one is updated...
i discovered that with a generic 4g sm-p905 that is "registered" south-africa-unlocked...
Maybe some people will gonna cook M rom as custom rom. Anyway, i beleive, not many people know what is new in new version of apps, iOS, they just want be one step back. "New version of .........." they click next, next, like a secreteary in offce with computer.
i think you mean a word i created , in french , that is "MesFessesAussi" , translatable by " My A$$ Too" . that sounds like M$Office and targets those dumb&lazy Girls...cool joke ;']
the mobile is my first one and mostly for GPS , but i never take again any G8gle-Android or samsung product .
this is pure **** for os and drivers updates , plus warranty . samsung being the biggest mother****er i have ever seen , it forces users to buy its products with its os where no drivers can be added ...and all is using free code....
G8gle being not "aware" of the way its "os" is used and delivered to customers...sucks as well as the chinese or even more...[ i understand why chromeos had no success...]
they are BANKSTER$ , turning something well working and free into a private and :silly: thingies..
to sum it : android by samsung is like posting a reply here with "g8gle chrome" : IMPOSSIBLE
when it come to check the "Robotologie"...image Verification pop-up not showing....Verification expired...
android - g8gle$a$$ung too : bunch of has-been
posted with FireFox...the one that made browsing the web free : POSSIBLE...
beside that : anyone uses the addblock-browser made for android$ ?
addblock , a nice extention that makes browsing " free of g8gle"$ add$ "....
rodnok1 said:
Boy that would be nice for it to be updated to 6.x but I'm not holding my breath. I read an article that said our tablets are considered old and outdated as the came out Feb 2014... Nice.
FYI just updated Nexus 7 to 6.0 and it's from 2013.
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I just bought the galaxy note pro 12.2, barely used for a good price. Even thought it's old, it should do what I need. I would hope to get at least 3 years out of it and the update to marshmallow would be nice. This is my first samsung tablet. I had previous iPad. Is it not likely Samsung will update this tablet? What's the big difference between lollipop and marshmallow anyway? Maybe it won't really matter.
Everyone tells me I should buy the iPad pro instead because of newer tech.
I think that the only way we will get Marshmallow for this tablet is if a dev cooks it up for us. I'm also wondering why there is no news of a new version of this table (or any Note tablet) in the works. I'm wondering if Samsung has abandoned the Note series of tablets. If they have that would be a shame. I use an iPhone, but the handwriting and multi-screen are of importance to me (so no change to an iPad).
Illusive Man said:
I think that the only way we will get Marshmallow for this tablet is if a dev cooks it up for us. I'm also wondering why there is no news of a new version of this table (or any Note tablet) in the works. I'm wondering if Samsung has abandoned the Note series of tablets. If they have that would be a shame. I use an iPhone, but the handwriting and multi-screen are of importance to me (so no change to an iPad).
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I too am wondering why there isn't news of a new tablet. I was in the market for one, and didn't want another iPad. I have an iMac as my computer, but don't like apples phones so have galaxy note 3 and thought my iPad was limited in function so wanted a galaxy tab. I had to buy used. I know with CES being around the corner, if there is something in the works, they should announce it then. But I couldn't wait. I hope to at least get 2 years out of the note pro.
if nothing else, maybe someone will make a cyanogenmod 13 rom for it. that would be really nice.
Techradar marshmellow
"Android Marshmallow update: when can I get it?"
They mention the note pro.
I think it is a good idea for Samsung to do this asap as the market for large screen stylus powered devices is growing quickly with the iPad pro and tablet 4. The already with the note pro have a foothold device in that sector so they can launch off the back of it. Keeping the note pro relevant is important for now.
BTW, I've used both the iPad pro and windows 4 tab at work and still prefer the Note pro 12.2 even though it is a year old and less powerful. At the price point of the Note pro it is a fantastic device.

Done with Samsung

Talk now is the S6 will be getting Android 7 soon, the S8 will be out in a few months and yet Samsung is sitting back releasing Android 7 through a bottle neck...........if they want to treat customers in this manner fine but I wont be party to it again, like last year when other countries and networks got Android 6 before the BTU beta users!
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Talk now is the S6 will be getting Android 7 soon, the S8 will be out in a few months and yet Samsung is sitting back releasing Android 7 through a bottle neck...........if they want to treat customers in this manner fine but I wont be party to it again, like last year when other countries and networks got Android 6 before the BTU beta users!
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Well you could argue a few ways.
One - would you rather have rushed software with bugs, or tested software that works?
Two - there are a few models from the Samsung line so newer should get priority over older.
Three - Samsung should release less devices to show work on upgrades for existing users. Most people will upgrade at end of contract, which in most cases is 18 months to two years. So having a new product every two years will lead to better tech than the predecessor and a more unified user base with devices and more satisfied customers.
Sadly, business works on ever growing profit margins, so having a two year gap in growth would look bad for investors and other companies could surpass Samsung in growth in that time making the new models cost more to make up the previous years loss.
You could argue yes but its even out of the Oneplus 3 now, I wont be wasting hundreds with Samsung again..........oh and it wasn't really an argument you gave because Samsung has tested it, their just dripping the final release so only a handful of people have it
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Talk now is the S6 will be getting Android 7 soon, the S8 will be out in a few months and yet Samsung is sitting back releasing Android 7 through a bottle neck...........if they want to treat customers in this manner fine but I wont be party to it again, like last year when other countries and networks got Android 6 before the BTU beta users!
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Me too. I regret my decision of choosing S7E over Pixel now.
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Well, I'm going to post from the other side of the tacks on this one. I came to the S7 Edge from a 6P. I was even part of the beta program and got updates faster than anyone else. You know what? Whoopdeedo. There was nothing even in the last release version of N (7.1.1) that I had on the 6P that this S7 Edge can't and didn't already do long before it was put into vanilla Android. The upgrade to N will come to the S7 Edge shortly. Even here in Canada where updates seem to take forever from carriers, it is noted as coming soon, so we should see it in the next month or so.
But really, this phone is already performing so much better for me that the 6P ever did and has everything software wise and more than I ever had with straight N Android. Not sure why the updates are seemingly so important to some. This phone works great right now and my battery life is off the charts compared to the 6P on the latest version of N. Besides, N is coming to our phones shortly as well. As someone mentioned above, because it is taking longer, at least it won't be riddled with bugs and battery drain like on the 6P for me.
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You could argue yes but its even out of the Oneplus 3 now, I wont be wasting hundreds with Samsung again..........oh and it wasn't really an argument you gave because Samsung has tested it, their just dripping the final release so only a handful of people have it
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It wasn't an argument. I was just giving an explanation on the possible scenarios.
You have to understand that carriers may release their updates later than Samsung., even thigh Samsung have tested.
TheIgster said:
Besides, N is coming to our phones.
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Yes we've been told this since December
Just wait. It's not hard, the update will come when it is due. If you are that eager for it then flash the BTU version. Samsung has their own way of releasing software, just like every other OEM.
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Yes we've been told this since December
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Well, don't speak for everyone. I'm with Rogers here in Canada and they JUST posted "Coming Soon" on their website. So it's only been about a week or so since my carrier has said it is coming. Not Samsung's fault the carriers take forever to get their crap in there and test their version.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tech/news/575565/Android-Nougat-Samsung-Galaxy-S7-update-release-date
Like I said I wont be giving hundreds to a supplier that extracts the urine like this, I might even get the Oneplus 4 when its out, they've released it for the 3 now
I got fed up waiting for Singapore to update to Nougat, so I just flashed, with Odin, the Malaysian Nougat update, using my Home CSC. Worked perfectly, not data lost. My phone is not rooted
Well, the unlocked version in US is independent on carriers and does not has Nougat yet. It is not the carrier's fault if Samsung has multiple versions of the same phone and decides to update only a subset of all the versions.
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No doubt there are bugs they can't fix and that's the real question: why samsung with their multimillion budget to hire skilled devs can't provide quality software update in time? Not to mention how many people replaced they catching fire note 7 with s7e... good strategy to treat all of them like that. Let's not forget that in 2017 even the normal user is becoming more and more aware about updates and their importance about his experience. After all, they can afford to hire more than one A team working on their flagship phone and attach it to s7/s7e development. If the patch BTU update works well I can guess they will start to roll out around the mid/end next week. Still, for me this is a really bad rollout, especially if we consider the beta test period.
dude stop whining and get a custom rom. ive been having nougat for over a week on my s7e now
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kevinjessy said:
dude stop whining and get a custom rom. ive been having nougat for over a week on my s7e now
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Is there a custom rom for the Snapdragon version witg Nougat? Don't think so. If there is, will be happy to install.
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I give up. Time to get rid of the Note Pro

I really liked the size of this tablet and thought that Samsung would at least keep the software updated for a little longer than they did.
No new version, seems like they made the new version for Windows OS only.
I gave up and got a Tab S3, maybe one day Samsung will make another larger Android tablet.
Until then, my pristine Note Pro is heading for swappa.
You are going to get rid of your 'pristine Note Pro' just because the OS isn't updated? I don't get it. I can use mine for a lot of productivity apps even though it isn't being updated to the latest OS version.
You might consider installing a rom from here like Lineage and getting full Nougat, changed the entire experience, and on a par with my wife's iPad Pro now. Where there's a will, there's a way.
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You do realize Google's contracts with manufacturers only last 2 years? The only devices that are updated after two years are Pixels and Apple. The NotePro is 3 years old. The contract for the updates ended 12 months ago.
I have never understood this obsession people have with updates. What, does the device stop working when it doesn't get a new update?
I'm a massive fan of 'If it isn't broken, don't fix it.'
My NotePro is on P905XXUANC3/P905DBTANC3. March 2014, 4.4.2.
My Note 3 is still on the very stable N9005XXUENB7/N9005DBTENB2. February 2014, 4.4.2.
I have absolutely no desire to update my device at the risk of reduced battery life, bugs and issues. And before anyone goes "That doesn't happen", the Bluetooth issues with 5.0 most definitely did happen. It works perfectly, why the hell would I compromise that?
I hear this nonsense a lot. "I want to end my contract because you haven't updated yet!" "I'm never buying a Samsung again because the phone wasn't updated 4 years after it came out!" Last week someone was whining about how it was fraud that his S3 didn't get Nougat.(!) The only thing missing is stomping feet and holding breath.
People can do what they want with their own devices. I love updates, but won't whine when I don't get them. My Note Pro is running Lineage and is running like a new device. I have no issues. I also had no issues on the stock ROM and would not consider my productivity in jeopardy because I don't have the latest updates. I do agree that some are a little more emotional about such things than seems reasonable. I don't see how a devices usefulness is reduced because of the lack of updates.
I agree. Although I would like to see some security updates to protect me from the bad guys.
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You do realize Google's contracts with manufacturers only last 2 years? The only devices that are updated after two years are Pixels and Apple. The NotePro is 3 years old. The contract for the updates ended 12 months ago.
I have never understood this obsession people have with updates. What, does the device stop working when it doesn't get a new update?
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Obsession? Stop posting such nonsense. Samsung stopped issuing updates for what used to be their highend device after a year and a half. And that is really disappointing. Especially when the device was still being sold long after that.
One thing i will add is that most devices are designed to run optimally when they are released on the os of the initial release. Even further updates by the manufacturer invariably compromise the performance of the device.
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One thing i will add is that most devices are designed to run optimally when they are released on the os of the initial release. Even further updates by the manufacturer invariably compromise the performance of the device.
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Not according to my experience with Tab 2 7.0, Tab 3 8.0 and S4. I have updated them all to the latest LineageOS and they all perform better than when they were new. The reason they don't update their devices is obvious, it costs money, and they want people to buy new devices.
To me, as a junkie for custom Android versions, I find the lack of a Samsung update untroubling. Currently I'm running a version of marshmallow hacked from the Samsung tab s2 by @bonuzzz to run on this. Works a charm and runs apps such as soundcamp that make this baby seem new.
And... I note there's an android 7 just being released for the above tablet... so maybe bonuzzz or someone else will port it over for us as well.
It's a good time to own one of these babies from my point of view.
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I'm a massive fan of 'If it isn't broken, don't fix it.'
My NotePro is on P905XXUANC3/P905DBTANC3. March 2014, 4.4.2.
My Note 3 is still on the very stable N9005XXUENB7/N9005DBTENB2. February 2014, 4.4.2.
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The "don't fix it if it ain't broken" idea here is totally irrelevant. People don't want to update because it is broken but because they want the new functionalities!! NotePro is not just a random low level tablet, it's an excellent one and it should have at least been updated to Android 6.
First of all my notepro runs on stock 5.02 from samsung.. And it is still working like a charm.. The problem I have now is that I am starting to run out of storage space and 5.02 has the stupid implementation of the extended storage also being the internal storage, not the SD. So a lot of apps don't install the huge data on SD but also internal.. And Samsung comes with too much bloatware that is also only getting bigger after each update..
So after a lot of years I see myself forced now to do one out of 2 things:
1. Get root and delete a lot of samsung bs apps
2. install a totally different rom
what would you advise?
Any one of those (1. or 2.) can and will brick something that you used to use. Most likely the S-pen functions. But there are other horror stories out their about doing what you want to do and the user finding a problem later.
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You might consider installing a rom from here like Lineage and getting full Nougat, changed the entire experience
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Do they fully support the S-Pen?
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Do they fully support the S-Pen?
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Yes and no. Lineage supports S Pen, but you don't get the Touchwiz stuff such as S Note etc, but easily substituted with Squid from the Play Store, which in my opinion is better.
Some of us don't have the option of custom ROMs. I am stuck with either unrooted Lollipop or rooted KitKat. Funny how some criticize others for wanting to have current software on their expensive devices...
(2017) S-Pen Backwards Compatability
billinaz said:
I gave up and got a Tab S3, maybe one day Samsung will make another larger Android tablet.
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Does the (2017) S-Pen from the Tab S3 happen to work on the Note 12.2?
Thanks!
I'm convinced that now is the best time to own one of these tablets. In fact, I bought an SM-P907a last night. This is based on my ownership of a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1(2014) for the last couple years. This has been running stock Rom, because it's an SM-P605v. So far, no one's been able to figure out how to root it or upgrade it past Android 5.1.1. Even so, Google is continuing to upgrade Google Play Services, making these Samsung devices the best product on the market bar none. They're no longer the fastest on the market, but are better featured than anything out there, including the Surface Pro, IPad Pro, and yes, even the Samsung Tab S3 (It has no connectivity capabilities, and I personally like the fact that the Galaxy Pro, and Note 10.1 have the S Pen mounted internally). The reasons I've decided to buy the Galaxy Pro amount to screen real estate for sketching, and display of my sheet music while I'm playing and singing. My advice, keep your tablet. You're not going to find anything to replace it that will really meet your expectations for some time yet. I'm planning on using the Galaxy Pro for at least a couple of years, advance giving the Note 10.1 to my wife.
If you are willing to root your Note Pro P900, there are two different roms recently posted under development that port the Samsung S2's version of Marshmallow -- complete w/ Samsung apps and touchwiz -- to this tablet.
"Yet Another Marshmallow Rom" (this is the one I am using at the moment)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-pro-12/development/p900-marshmallow-rom-t3604194
And this one (camera doesn't work with it):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-pro-12/development/p900-touchwiz-marshmallow-t3567916
I post these here because they not only allow upgrading to Marshmallow while keeping the Samsung Touchwiz vibe, they also allow installing some apps the Pro 12.2 couldn't run otherwise. Soundcamp, and at least two art programs.
So don't give up on the Pro 12.2 yet.
Blessings.
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I bought an SM-P907a last night.
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shonkin said:
If you are willing to root your Note Pro P900, there are two different roms recently posted under development that port the Samsung S2's version of Marshmallow -- complete w/ Samsung apps and touchwiz -- to this tablet.
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He has a 907a. No ROMs.

Welp, no Oreo update.

Kinda regret getting this phone after only 7 months of owning it...
We will see...
Yep, another big costly Chinese tibit.
*warcry scream*
1. I doubt these reps have any more of a clue about the O update for the H8 than you do. If you communicate with enough of them, I am sure one of them will give you the answer you're looking for.
2. What's the fascination with the O update anyway? Functionally, what do you want to do that O will help you with (that N and M do not)?
3. If you use the H8 as a daily driver, the need to experiment with the latest and greatest is diminished. Haven't you read the numerous posts complaining about compatibility with N, much less O? As an example, it took ages for Xposed to work with N. Many here would prefer full compatibility with Xposed vs. an O update with limited or no Xposed support.
4. There are many other threads talking about O being promised -- or not -- for the H8. Why can't posters just update one thread with their latest updates from (mostly clueless) reps?
retyre said:
1. I doubt these reps have any more of a clue about the O update for the H8 than you do. If you communicate with enough of them, I am sure one of them will give you the answer you're looking for.
2. What's the fascination with the O update anyway? Functionally, what do you want to do that O will help you with (that N and M do not)?
3. If you use the H8 as a daily driver, the need to experiment with the latest and greatest is diminished. Haven't you read the numerous posts complaining about compatibility with N, much less O? As an example, it took ages for Xposed to work with N. Many here would prefer full compatibility with Xposed vs. an O update with limited or no Xposed support.
4. There are many other threads talking about O being promised -- or not -- for the H8. Why can't posters just update one thread with their latest updates from (mostly clueless) reps?
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It's not that I'm fascinated with the O update, I just feel a bit cheated because they promised 2 years of updates right? Buying a phone (with great specs) that becomes outdated in a couple of months kinda stings. And for xposed... I'm not too into that anymore especially with stability/diversity rom issues with this device; I gave roms try for a while but the loss of some functionality and higher charging temps made me uneasy
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It's not that I'm fascinated with the O update, I just feel a bit cheated because they promised 2 years of updates right? Buying a phone (with great specs) that becomes outdated in a couple of months kinda stings. And for xposed... I'm not too into that anymore especially with stability/diversity rom issues with this device; I gave roms try for a while but the loss of some functionality and higher charging temps made me uneasy
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Btw Honor 8 is being updated regularly every 3 months. We received the B394 on September and the B398 is already being released. Updated don't mean only Major updated
DroidMau5 said:
It's not that I'm fascinated with the O update, I just feel a bit cheated because they promised 2 years of updates right? Buying a phone (with great specs) that becomes outdated in a couple of months kinda stings. And for xposed... I'm not too into that anymore especially with stability/diversity rom issues with this device; I gave roms try for a while but the loss of some functionality and higher charging temps made me uneasy
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Btw Honor 8 is being updated regularly every 3 months. We received the B394 on September and the B398 is already being released. Updated don't mean only Major updated
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Imho we're only talking about official upgrades, no root or xposed, so we don't really care about xposed : if you use xposed, you have rooted your phone, so you willingly excluded yourself from official upgrades.
I think a lot of us understood that 2 years updates meant 2 major android upgrades, which is not what happens, we only get very minor updates every few months.
Imho a real serious way of handling updates would be to release one with every google security patch, with no new feature and only bug fixing, security first.
And then state something about the major android upgrades, but these 2 should be separated.
But I'm dreaming in a non commercial world
And if you add a so-called partnership with XDA developers, and no real full source has been released, yes this is very disappointing.
Unfortunately Huawei is terrible with updating their previous devices. They're in it for a quick buck and move onto the next new one. All you can do is vote with your money next time and buy a Google pixel if you want updates, or an iPhone. I wouldn't expect more than 1 major os upgrade for any Huawei devices.
I want KRACK patched. If it's not patched in the next month I'm selling my phone for an iPhone.
Apple has better security than Android.
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I want KRACK patched. If it's not patched in the next month I'm selling my phone for an iPhone.
Apple has better security than Android.
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I second that. KRACK (hell, even Blueborne) is unpatched on our phones. I understand that we get "regular" updates, but seriously, an out-of-band update when serious vulnerabilities occur is not much to ask.
Not everybody can afford an iPhone, but for sure, if Huawei/Honor don't get their act together, this will be the first and the last of their devices that I will ever buy.
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I want KRACK patched. If it's not patched in the next month I'm selling my phone for an iPhone.
Apple has better security than Android.
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Probably, but it's still Crapple.
Bruatar said:
Unfortunately Huawei is terrible with updating their previous devices. They're in it for a quick buck and move onto the next new one. All you can do is vote with your money next time and buy a Google pixel if you want updates, or an iPhone. I wouldn't expect more than 1 major os upgrade for any Huawei devices.
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Yes, but so much advertising around XDA partnership and honor 8 beeing their new "long live" model made a lot of us buy it even if they had such reputation.
iPhone ? Never ever ! This is the opposite problem, they push too much major upgrades so your phone becomes a low performance phone.
I have an ipad2 for music creation, I recovered good performance when I rolled back from verrrrry laggggggy iOS 9 to iOS 6.
From the previous update patterns.. if your model has launched with (MM) you will get the next one(N). If your model has launched with (N), then you will get the Oreo. Period..
It depends.
Honor promised either 12 or 24 months of Major Android Updates. Honor has delivered in the past like my Honor 4C got two major Android updates Lollipop and Marshmallow. I believe we should get Oreo since it is extremely healthy for the development community. If Honor delivers Oreo with Treble Support, there's a high chance of getting a fully functional bulges custom ROMs for the device.
From my previous experiences with Huawei devices i noticed that they only receive 1 major update during their lifetime. Even flagships. That was true with Ascend P7 (4.2.2.-->5.1.1), P8 (5.1.1-->6.0) and now the same with Honor 8. Huawei does not even bother with intermediate OS updates like 7.0.2 and 7.1.1
It was released with 6.0, now it has 7.0, so ... that's it.
Well, the Honor 6X was released only two months after the 8 with 6.0 too and it has Oreo planned. It doesn't make sense for Honor to ditch 8 for 6X. Let's wait and see.
Those are not official. Someone in these forums got replied to an email that Honor 8 will get a closed beta for it soon. That person is not official Honor and is therefore fake.
Yup the xda partnerships that honor/Huawei touts everytime ar sooooooooooooooooo fake its laughable.
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Well, the Honor 6X was released only two months after the 8 with 6.0 too and it has Oreo planned. It doesn't make sense for Honor to ditch 8 for 6X. Let's wait and see.
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The customer support is now saying that even the Honor 6X isn't going to recieve the Oreo update.
She did mention that despite it hasn't been announced we shouldn't lose hope since it still isn't CONFIRMED. She also mentioned that we will continue recieving security patches which honestly is more that enough for me......
I've tried Oreo on my Nexus 5X and if anything it made the device slower and doesn't have any new changes or features apart from the password filling in apps or the updated Bluetooth codec.
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Galaxy Tab S2 (2015&2016) - Official Android 8.0 Oreo Update News

Hey guys!
I don't know if you already heard it but the Galaxy S6 lineup will probably receive Android 8.0. Many Samsung employees confirmed that and there is already a leaked list of devices which will get the update. Today I noticed that not only the S6 was mentioned on that list... the Galaxy Tab S2 will probably receive the update as well! In my opinion it is really great to see that the first premium devices from Samsung will get another update
What do you think?
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Hey guys!
I don't know if you already heard it but the Galaxy S6 lineup will probably receive Android 8.0. Many Samsung employees confirmed that and there is already a leaked list of devices which will get the update. Today I noticed that not only the S6 was mentioned on that list... the Galaxy Tab S2 will probably receive the update as well! In my opinion it is really great to see that the first premium devices from Samsung will get another update
What do you think?
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What do I think? Your post is misleading. This is nothing official...
Indeed nothing official. It's mostly rumors and leaks at the very best. BUT I wont lie, I want this to happen and that'll be awesome!
zeon22 said:
Indeed nothing official. It's mostly rumors and leaks at the very best. BUT I wont lie, I want this to happen and that'll be awesome!
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I wouldn't get too excited. That list is just devices that could potentially run Oreo. It does not mean they will actually get the update. There's a good few on there that I'm certain wont. Would you really think the Tab series would get Oreo when they didn't even get nougat or Marshmallow?
ashyx said:
I wouldn't get too excited. That list is just devices that could potentially run Oreo. It does not mean they will actually get the update. There's a good few on there that I'm certain wont. Would you really think the Tab series would get Oreo when they didn't even get nougat or Marshmallow?
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All Tabs that were listed there have Nougat
ashyx said:
I wouldn't get too excited. That list is just devices that could potentially run Oreo. It does not mean they will actually get the update. There's a good few on there that I'm certain wont. Would you really think the Tab series would get Oreo when they didn't even get nougat or Marshmallow?
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No I am not the least bit excited, but a man can dream atleast:good:
And like the previous reply said they all have nougat.
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All Tabs that were listed there have Nougat
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Right, it looks like I misread the image. It seemed that the original Tab series was included. In reflection its actually the header. :silly:
ashyx said:
I wouldn't get too excited. That list is just devices that could potentially run Oreo. It does not mean they will actually get the update. There's a good few on there that I'm certain wont. Would you really think the Tab series would get Oreo when they didn't even get nougat or Marshmallow?
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Right, it looks like I misread the image. It seemed that the original Tab series was included. In reflection its actually the header. :silly:
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I made the same mistake when I saw it the first time?
Maybe we will get Samsung Experience 9.0 with the update. It would be very great to get some S8/S9 UI feauters
If Samsung's track record holds of two major version updates per flagship device, the 2016 Tab S2 should get Oreo. The 2015 may or may not - I guess it depends on whether Sammy is feeling generous.
I'm not sure who would hope their device doesn't get the update? While it's possible Samsung could pull an Apple stunt and kill performance with an Oreo update, that generally hasn't been an issue. In reality, it will just be security patches and support for newer apps. The days of new Android versions bringing sea changes of improvements appear to be in the past.
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Maybe we will get Samsung Experience 9.0 with the update. It would be very great to get some S8/S9 UI feauters
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like this? you can just install the related apk from apkmirror. the search bar can find it in the xda forum as well.
jshamlet said:
If Samsung's track record holds of two major version updates per flagship device, the 2016 Tab S2 should get Oreo. The 2015 may or may not - I guess it depends on whether Sammy is feeling generous.
I'm not sure who would hope their device doesn't get the update? While it's possible Samsung could pull an Apple stunt and kill performance with an Oreo update, that generally hasn't been an issue. In reality, it will just be security patches and support for newer apps. The days of new Android versions bringing sea changes of improvements appear to be in the past.
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I agree Samsung seem to give 2 major updates to their flagships and higher spec devices.
The S2(2) should get Oreo. I'd say unlikely the S2(1)will see it.
As a 2015 owner, all I want for the last major update is a stable build without any major bugs. From then on, I'd just like the same build with the security updates. The current Nougat is pretty solid but the screen brightness does keep going up and down on some occasions.
i would love to see something for the 819N, i mean there isn't even any custom roms for that version of the tablet, i hope at least samsung goes oreo for it.
How you get it ? What is the name of app ? @edan1979
NeWONEx said:
How you get it ? What is the name of app ? @edan1979
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compile everything i use in this files. just install the apk manually.
https://mega.nz/#!jRAzEaTA!_GL9cFaxFv2C64lAuepgCVeFbjvZ-a8c1eRFVeflUoc
all files from apkmirror and xda forum.
edan1979 said:
compile everything i use in this files. just install the apk manually.
https://mega.nz/#!jRAzEaTA!_GL9cFaxFv2C64lAuepgCVeFbjvZ-a8c1eRFVeflUoc
all files from apkmirror and xda forum.
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Thank you my friend.
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Probably 2016 model can hope for it because it has been shipped with 6.0 and also is not sure...but 2015 model should kill the idea because has been shipped with 5.0.1. Even if we could run oreo Sammy will never give a third major update to a 2015 device, even if the only difference between 2015 and 2016 is the CPU (correct me if i'm wrong)
I think it's crazy how Samsumg abandons its own products. I can understand their budget devices getting updates, but this is their only tablet line. Not to mention they were selling these for $400+ a pop (i got mine out of a pricing error for $200 though).
Just shows you that iPad should be the only tablet product to purchase from here on out... I think the last year and a couple months I've owned this it's been updated a whopping 3 times! Never again will I buy Samsung.
JoRocker said:
. I can understand their budget devices getting updates, but this is their only tablet line. .
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How do you mean their only tablet line? There's also the Tab A, Tab E, Tab pro, plus older Tab 2, 3, 4 etc.

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