Hi guys, I've got this phone passed down by my mum. It's an old Samsung Note 4 but it's still working fine except the battery readings are totally out.
When I mean totally out, it's like switching off when it hits 30%. Sometimes it keeps going on after it hits 0%. I tried keeping a battery pack on it but it'll just do the same thing.
Just like to know if it helps getting a new battery or is there anything I can do to 'reset' the battery?
Thanks folks!
When a Note 4 shuts off at 30% that usually means that the battery is toast. Get yourself a new Anker battery for $16.99.
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Replac...01204841&sr=1-1&keywords=anker+battery+note+4
windwaver said:
Hi guys, I've got this phone passed down by my mum. It's an old Samsung Note 4 but it's still working fine except the battery readings are totally out.
When I mean totally out, it's like switching off when it hits 30%. Sometimes it keeps going on after it hits 0%. I tried keeping a battery pack on it but it'll just do the same thing.
Just like to know if it helps getting a new battery or is there anything I can do to 'reset' the battery?
Thanks folks!
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Like previous stated, battery is most likely going bad. But I figured I give you an alternative to try first. It won't hurt.
Power off your phone and charge it to 100%
Turn it on.
In play store search for "Nema battery". The first result should be it. It's called "Battery Calibrater" and is by Nema.
Install it. And follow directions.
Most all battery apps are crap. But a few people told me this really does calibrate the phone.
Also take note of what amps capacity it says your battery has.
It maybe worth the try.
Thanks buddy, I'll give it a shot.
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Also take note of what amps capacity it says your battery has.
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Just fired up the app and it says 4300mV max .
The specs of Note 4 states that the battery is Li-Ion 3220 mAh; Is that 4300mV?
windwaver said:
Just fired up the app and it says 4300mV max .
The specs of Note 4 states that the battery is Li-Ion 3220 mAh; Is that 4300mV?
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That's the voltage. When it's plugged in, it'll be close to 5v. Unplugged it'll be lower.
That app might not have the reading I'm thinking of. No matter, you can try it.
Just for comparative proposes, I just installed it. And yes mine also shows 4300mv max.
But unplugged it's showing 3995mv, I'm at 75%.
aaron74 said:
That's the voltage. When it's plugged in, it'll be close to 5v. Unplugged it'll be lower.
That app might not have the reading I'm thinking of. No matter, you can try it.
Just for comparative proposes, I just installed it. And yes mine also shows 4300mv max.
But unplugged it's showing 3995mv, I'm at 75%.
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I see.
I think a different figure shows up when I charge it turned on or off. If I hit 100% charge, it'll show up with less than that when I try charging it turned off.
I'll try the app once I get to 100%. Is that 100% referring to the phone being turned on or off while charging?
windwaver said:
I see.
I think a different figure shows up when I charge it turned on or off. If I hit 100% charge, it'll show up with less than that when I try charging it turned off.
I'll try the app once I get to 100%. Is that 100% referring to the phone being turned on or off while charging?
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They mean with it on.
I only suggested charging it off. Cause it's suppose to charge fully better that way I guess. You'll be able to tell when it's fully charged that way. Either way probably won't matter for your case. Cause it's either gonna help or nothing much, then you'll know if you should move on and try new battery.
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They mean with it on.
I only suggested charging it off. Cause it's suppose to charge fully better that way I guess. You'll be able to tell when it's fully charged that way. Either way probably won't matter for your case. Cause it's either gonna help or nothing much, then you'll know if you should move on and try new battery.
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Yeah, you're right, last ditch effort to see if the battery works.
Another strange behavior is the speed of charging. I use the same charger with the same cable for this test. Funny thing is sometimes the battery takes ages to get to 50% from 0% but on good days, it gets from 0% to 50% in a snap.
Is this behavior of a faulty battery? Or am I dealing with a faulty circuit board? I'm on stock ROM so it's easier to troubleshoot.
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Yeah, you're right, last ditch effort to see if the battery works.
Another strange behavior is the speed of charging. I use the same charger with the same cable for this test. Funny thing is sometimes the battery takes ages to get to 50% from 0% but on good days, it gets from 0% to 50% in a snap.
Is this behavior of a faulty battery? Or am I dealing with a faulty circuit board? I'm on stock ROM so it's easier to troubleshoot.
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I couldn't say. But it sounds like fast charge is working on and off. Probably bad aging battery.
poit said:
When a Note 4 shuts off at 30% that usually means that the battery is toast. Get yourself a new Anker battery for $16.99.
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Replac...01204841&sr=1-1&keywords=anker+battery+note+4
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How is the Anker battery?
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Hi,
When I charging my magic I get ~1%/min rate but when it reach 99% i have to wait 15 minutes to get full 100% charge. Why is that?
most likely because its not calibrated right!
no big deal though! however to fix this and better your battery life you must let your phone die completely until it wont turn on, and then fully charge it... this way the battery will calibrate itself...
minogue said:
most likely because its not calibrated right!
no big deal though! however to fix this and better your battery life you must let your phone die completely until it wont turn on, and then fully charge it... this way the battery will calibrate itself...
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I do this couple of times without result
hmmm. dont know what else to tell you.
I did this to my g1 and the battery pretty much improved and i also didnt have the problem where it would get stuck at 99% and then take very to fully charge...
but like i said, its actually not a big deal. i mean once it gets to 99%, your phone realizes its not fully charge and takes longer as it tries to completely get it to 100% Charge
download battery status free from the market,or spare tools and look what it says about the health of your battery.
minogue said:
most likely because its not calibrated right!
no big deal though! however to fix this and better your battery life you must let your phone die completely until it wont turn on, and then fully charge it... this way the battery will calibrate itself...
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This is not true with Li-Ion batteries. You have to opportunity charge them. You should not let the battery go below 50 percent before charging it again.
Read here.
http://batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
mine does the same thing. its no big deal. i am guessing that it is set up to charge very fast up to a certain point, then trickle charge. i have noticed on mine that when it charges really fast to 99% if i take it off the charger and use it for 10 min or so the battery level will drop down faster than normal, then level out again. lots of phones do this
bonesy said:
download battery status free from the market,or spare tools and look what it says about the health of your battery.
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It says Good
I noticed that after unplugging my phone when it said it was fully charged the battery immediatley dropped to 97%. I found a thread in the Vibrant forum with people talking about their Vibrants doing the exact same thing. No one seemed to know what was causing it. Is anyone else seeing this with their phone? Should I be concerned?
it's normal on a Samsung phone. There is no fix. Sorry for the bad news.
*previous Vibrant owner*
Thanks for the reply. It doesn't bother me as long as it's normal, just wanted to make sure nothing was wrong.
PrisonerOfDoom said:
Thanks for the reply. It doesn't bother me as long as it's normal, just wanted to make sure nothing was wrong.
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Yep. From my experience I've discovered the following:
1. Keep it on charger for a extra 1 or 2 hour.
2. Charge it while off.
And you won't see that drop again. If you do one of those things.
It's normal on every mobile phone.
Here's an explanation.
Read this article, and it will help you understand why.
Dont know why someone would blame samsung....
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
Bump Charge
PrisonerOfDoom said:
I noticed that after unplugging my phone when it said it was fully charged the battery immediatley dropped to 97%. I found a thread in the Vibrant forum with people talking about their Vibrants doing the exact same thing. No one seemed to know what was causing it. Is anyone else seeing this with their phone? Should I be concerned?
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It is normal, it was designed to do that to prevent your battery from burning out sooner thus giving you shorter battery life in the long run.
If you want to truly charge to 100 percent, you bump it. Meaning when it says fully charged(its lying to you), pull out the usb charger, then plug it back in. When it says 100 percent again, pull out the charger, put it right back in, let it charge a few mins more. Keep doing this till you get bored. Doing this bumping technique will truly charge it to 100 percent, and it won't fall so quickly, but it burns your battery supposedly in the long run.
There was an article about it. Google bump charging battery, or something like that.
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lol nevermind I see the people above posted the links.
SamsungVibrant said:
It is normal, it was designed to do that to prevent your battery from burning out sooner thus giving you shorter battery life in the long run.
If you want to truly charge to 100 percent, you bump it. Meaning when it says fully charged(its lying to you), pull out the usb charger, then plug it back in. When it says 100 percent again, pull out the charger, put it right back in, let it charge a few mins more. Keep doing this till you get bored. Doing this bumping technique will truly charge it to 100 percent, and it won't fall so quickly, but it burns your battery supposedly in the long run.
There was an article about it. Google bump charging battery, or something like that.
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lol nevermind I see the people above posted the links.
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Yup -- once the battery reaches full capacity the charger stops (to avoid undue wear on the battery). The battery will discharge down to ~90% before the charger kicks in again.
On Nexus One we were able to run off of wall power once the battery was charged, significantly reducing the speed at which the battery discharged once full, and improving the chances of it being 99-100% when you took it off the charger. Nexus S has a different charge circuit configuration which does not allow it to operate in this mode.
ZachLL88 said:
Read this article, and it will help you understand why.
Dont know why someone would blame samsung....
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
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If it's a Samsung phone, it's the norm to blame Samsung. Not Google and Samsung, just Samsung. I know, it doesn't make any sense to me either.
ram130 said:
Yep. From my experience I've discovered the following:
1. Keep it on charger for a extra 1 or 2 hour.
2. Charge it while off.
And you won't see that drop again. If you do one of those things.
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I have found the same result on my Vibrant. Also my Nexus S is doing the same thiing.
swetland said:
Yup -- once the battery reaches full capacity the charger stops (to avoid undue wear on the battery). The battery will discharge down to ~90% before the charger kicks in again.
On Nexus One we were able to run off of wall power once the battery was charged, significantly reducing the speed at which the battery discharged once full, and improving the chances of it being 99-100% when you took it off the charger. Nexus S has a different charge circuit configuration which does not allow it to operate in this mode.
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As always, we greatly appreciate you posting here and giving us almost an inside look at things.
I'm very impressed with the battery life on the Nexus S, personally!
swetland said:
Yup -- once the battery reaches full capacity the charger stops (to avoid undue wear on the battery). The battery will discharge down to ~90% before the charger kicks in again.
On Nexus One we were able to run off of wall power once the battery was charged, significantly reducing the speed at which the battery discharged once full, and improving the chances of it being 99-100% when you took it off the charger. Nexus S has a different charge circuit configuration which does not allow it to operate in this mode.
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Do we know what fuel gauge chip is in the nexus s battery, and what driver its using? Check my sig to see what we did to the nexus one battery chip and driver...
Anyone else have a funky "Battery Use" screen?
Check out the attached image. What is up with the "Battery Use" screen? Anyone elses like that? It isn't my phone, because the problem is only at the "Battery Use" screen.
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Check out the attached image. What is up with the "Battery Use" screen? Anyone elses like that? It isn't my phone, because the problem is only at the "Battery Use" screen.
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care to elaborate whats funky?
slowz3r said:
care to elaborate whats funky?
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I hate that new Thanks button. I always accidentally click it when trying to quote.
That said, see the top part of the screen. It shouldn't be like that... should it?! My Vibrant wasn't like that.
Mine's the same way. Click on it, its like a graph
Ya its handy and normal
Cheeze[iT] said:
Mine's the same way. Click on it, its like a graph
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LOL! I just clicked on it right before I read your post and now I feel like a moron.
Thanks for the help.
battery wont charge to 100%
I was wondering if anyone else was having a problem charging their Nexus S to 100%. I have recalibrated it by draining it then charging it while its off for about 8 hours.
Ever since I first got it would only go to 97%. I also tried to delete the batterystats.bin file and that's not working either.
If I bring it back to Best Buy should I relock the bootloader and get a new one or will they replace just the battery for me?
Thanks
I'm having this issue as well and am wondering whether or not this a prevalent or not.
[Q] Wifi Tether: Subject to $15 T-Mobile Charge?
Curious about this. Currently I'm connected to my laptop for the past 15 min just fine; no alert came up that said I had to get the $15 fee that T-Mobile charges for the "privilege" of tethering on my current plan. Does that mean that an unlocked phone isn't subject to T-Mobile's tampering?
If so, is this the only value for rooting right now? I don't see any other need for root with this phone except if it fools T-Mobile.
Thanks in advance for your answers.
I know there are numerous threads about battery life, but this one isn't about the life itself really.
I can charge my phone to 100%, but when I unplug it, the battery indicator shows 97% right away. I plug it back in, rinse and repeat, and get the same issue. I even tried charging with the phone off.
Ha anyone had luck with using a full 100%?
allen099 said:
I know there are numerous threads about battery life, but this one isn't about the life itself really.
I can charge my phone to 100%, but when I unplug it, the battery indicator shows 97% right away. I plug it back in, rinse and repeat, and get the same issue. I even tried charging with the phone off.
Ha anyone had luck with using a full 100%?
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This is normal, search some threads
slowz3r said:
This is normal, search some threads
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I see that some people don't get to 100% during the actual charge process, but haven't seen my issue yet. I'll keep looking. So many of these threads...thanks.
Just trying to figure out whether it's worth going back for another phone or battery. What would you do?
Id keep it, there was an article posted in one of the threads stating why phones do this...the N1 did a similar thing where after it charged going from 100-96 percent went really quickly
i would equate it when you buy a 16 gig SD card and it shows as 15.6 gigs
Same thing here... pretty sure it's happening to most people.
Read this: http://byrong.com/PowerTesting/
allen099 said:
I know there are numerous threads about battery life, but this one isn't about the life itself really.
I can charge my phone to 100%, but when I unplug it, the battery indicator shows 97% right away. I plug it back in, rinse and repeat, and get the same issue. I even tried charging with the phone off.
Ha anyone had luck with using a full 100%?
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Mine did this until I calibrated the battery. Charged it to 100%, then drained it all the way. Charged it back up to 100%, and now not only does the battery last longer, but the percentage seems to go down in a more linear fashion.
Read on...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
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brianbrain said:
Mine did this until I calibrated the battery. Charged it to 100%, then drained it all the way. Charged it back up to 100%, and now not only does the battery last longer, but the percentage seems to go down in a more linear fashion.
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Same here, I've done this two nights in a row, but no change.
Thank you for the links, guys. Pretty insightful actually. I've got it charging right now at 99%. As soon as it hits 100%, I'll take it off and see if it drops instantly. I'm guessing it shouldn't as it JUST hit 100%. But we shall see..
Thanks again!
Same issue here afetr the caliberation and all
I really wouldnt worry about it guys, not like magical unicorns are eating your percentages
Well...I mean, it's not something anybody is "worried" about, but it does suck because I use my phone heavily as I'm in the IT field ... so every percentage counts. After I just unplugged, it went to 99% which my N1 did as well. I'm fine with 99%, but 97% seemed a bit low.
Full charge oddity
When the phone has been switched off and charging the phone shows the fully charged icon on screen when charging appears to be done. Battery Indicator Pro displays only a 95% charge when the phone is switched on. The same happens when the phone is on and being usb charged. When 100% charge is shown and the usb cable is removed the charge is then shown as 95%. This does not happen on my other devices running 2.2. They will show 100% or 99%. A device design or 2.3 bug?
Read this whole post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
The epic 4g has this problem. I think its something with samsung. You have to unplug it, plug it back in, let it charge to full again and rinse repeat until its really at 100%
Then reset your battery stats in cwm
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As noted in the stickied FAQ and further discussed in the link provided by nxt (Beat me to it!), this is by design folks.
unremarked said:
Q: I unplugged my phone, and my battery dropped from 100% to 95% immediately, or it won't/takes along time to charge past 99%, what gives?
This is by design. Your phone will slow down and eventually stop pulling charge at or slightly greater than ~95% regardless of what your battery indicator says. This is to extend the overall life of the battery, as constant 100% to 0% charge/discharge cycles will cause it to fail prematurely. If you're interested in really pushing it to 100%, you can use a technique that is called "bump charging" and is better detailed here: http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/12...battery-drain/
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<- Link has more or less the same info as nxt's.
maybe we need multiple FAQ stickies in this board..
Weird battery reading
My Nexus S was at about 16% when I put it on the charger then I did a quick reboot and it said it was at 52%. I unplugged it, powered off, pulled the battery, then rebooted and it read 28%. Even that is hard to believe after less then 5 minutes of charging. Has this happened to anyone else?
Stock 2.3.1 unrooted
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deyna said:
Has this happened to anyone else?
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Yes, that has been reported by a number of people. It has happened to me as well when rebooting while charging. Nothing is wrong with your battery though, it just must be a battery stats bug.
Good to know. Thank you for the prompt reply
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If you leave ur wirless tethering on while charging, your battery will charge up to 100% and stay 100 even if you take off the charger.
I hope nobody posted this method already
Nice! Ill test that later today
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charging it to 100% will shorten the battery's life.
I know but there were many threads about battery not charging up to 100% so I just decided to help a little)
sstang2006 said:
charging it to 100% will shorten the battery's life.
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can you provide more info on this?
alexvega said:
can you provide more info on this?
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It wont shorten it thats BS.
sstang2006 said:
charging it to 100% will shorten the battery's life.
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Charging to 100% will not shorten the battery life if any Lithium Ion or lipo battery, but if you discharge past 5% will kill the battery faster. This I know from using the lipo battery's on my big RC Helicopters and that the ESC's have a low voltage cutoff on them to keep from doing damage to the battery. All lipo batterys are built the same so before someone says it is not the same, YES it is!!!
bolabola118 said:
If you leave ur wirless tethering on while charging, your battery will charge up to 100% and stay 100 even if you take off the charger.
I hope nobody posted this method already
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Already posted, and already shown that it doesn't work...battery still only charges to 96-97%
And there is an issue with the firmware in the Nexus S that prevents it from fully charging to 100% (incorrect voltage cutoff level?). This is NOT a deliberate way to "save" battery life.
Charging to 100% does NOT harm the battery or shorten its life in any way. Li-Ion batteries work best and have a longer total battery life when topped up to 100% regularly.
Thanks for playing today...
bfksc said:
Already posted, and already shown that it doesn't work...battery still only charges to 96-97%
And there is an issue with the firmware in the Nexus S that prevents it from fully charging to 100% (incorrect voltage cutoff level?). This is NOT a deliberate way to "save" battery life.
Charging to 100% does NOT harm the battery or shorten its life in any way. Li-Ion batteries work best and have a longer total battery life when topped up to 100% regularly.
Thanks for playing today...
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hopefully an OTA will fix these issues.
Does anybody have access to a Moment,Instinct HD, Behold II? Charge your Nexus S to 95% and then put battery in one of these phones and see what battery reading you get.
bolabola118 said:
If you leave ur wirless tethering on while charging, your battery will charge up to 100% and stay 100 even if you take off the charger.
I hope nobody posted this method already
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Doesn't work...sorry.
i believe i heard 2.3.5 will fix this and many other issues we are having.
Another way to fully charge your Nexus S is by switching it off and plug-in it to a wall charger until it finish charging (you will notice that by means of the white battery icon that will show up if you press -just a single touch, do not keep pressing- the power button). Every time I charge my Nexus S this way I get a full 100% battery charge.
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Another way to fully charge your Nexus S is by switching it off and plug-in it to a wall charger until it finish charging (you will notice that by means of the white battery icon that will show up if you press -just a single touch, do not keep pressing- the power button). Every time I charge my Nexus S this way I get a full 100% battery charge.
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ive done this and i never reach 100%. the highest i have gone is 98%.
This is curious. I usually pick my phone in the morning and read some tweets and news before I get up, while the phone is still connected to the charger. When I 1st take it it has about 96-97% but after I use the phone for some time it goes up to 98 or 99%, but never got 100%.
does that 5% really make that much of a difference? maybe it helps the battery to not go to 100%, maybe it doesn't...
but are you really using the battery down to 5% before charging it where it makes that huge of a difference?
fixxxer2008 said:
i believe i heard 2.3.5 will fix this and many other issues we are having.
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any real input on this? or just an assumption?
fixxxer2008 said:
i believe i heard 2.3.5 will fix this and many other issues we are having.
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Let me guess... Google told you first?
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guys is better to charge the phone before it is <5% or not?
if you leave the screen on while charging, you can charge it to 100%, i do it a few times a week. as soon as the screen goes off over 95%, it will stop charging, at that point just unplug it, then plug it back in and leave the screen on. itll get to 100%. have patience, itll just takes some time.
Hello guys,
After more than 1 year I thought about buying a new battery for better battery life. I just did it and here is the problem: the capacity which my phone shows is totally wrong. The battery percentage jumps from 70 to 85 and from 85 to 100% during charging in some minutes. And it drops from 100% after plugging it off the charger to 88 or 85%. It is really curious. So I thought maybe the new battery is damaged and I ordered a new one. But I have the same problem with this new one. OK, I thought maybe it is just a displaying a wrong value but this new battery is lasting less than my old battery. Is there a way to calibrate the new battery to get a real full charge and right values?
Thanks and regards
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blax123 said:
Hello guys,
After more than 1 year I thought about buying a new battery for better battery life. I just did it and here is the problem: the capacity which my phone shows is totally wrong. The battery percentage jumps from 70 to 85 and from 85 to 100% during charging in some minutes. And it drops from 100% after plugging it off the charger to 88 or 85%. It is really curious. So I thought maybe the new battery is damaged and I ordered a new one. But I have the same problem with this new one. OK, I thought maybe it is just a displaying a wrong value but this new battery is lasting less than my old battery. Is there a way to calibrate the new battery to get a real full charge and right values?
Thanks and regards
Sent from my Carbonized Nexus 4
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Usually you want to condition a new battery by charging it all the way up to 100% and wait about an hour with it still on the charger. Then completely discharge the batter until the phone shuts off. Perform these steps two or three times and you should be good to go.
jrosetto said:
Usually you want to condition a new battery by charging it all the way up to 100% and wait about an hour with it still on the charger. Then completely discharge the batter until the phone shuts off. Perform these steps two or three times and you should be good to go.
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NO. There is no need for this. Evidence and experiences from other N4 users has shown that discharging till it shuts off will cause a red light of death brick. I advise not to follow such a method.
scream4cheese said:
NO. There is no need for this. Evidence and experiences from other N4 users has shown that discharging till it shuts off will cause a red light of death brick. I advise not to follow such a method.
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This is also not entirely true.
I have let many times to discharge totally till turned off and only once I have experienced the red light, which disappeared after charging.
scream4cheese said:
NO. There is no need for this. Evidence and experiences from other N4 users has shown that discharging till it shuts off will cause a red light of death brick. I advise not to follow such a method.
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Are you kidding me! So you're telling everyone using a Nexus 4 that they should never take their phone off the charger for fear of getting the red light if their phone goes dead? My phone goes dead all the time and I don't have this issue. Sure the phone won't turn on right away after putting it on the charger from being totally dead, but after it gets some juice back in the battery it works fine again.