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I was really surprised to learn that LG don't have a bootloader unlocking service like even HTC have done and given that the LG never managed to unlock the bootloader, I'm quite surprised that there wasn't more of a community outcry. What is up with that? Have LG ever spoken of supporting the development community? Is it unlikely that we'll see it happen within the flagship lifetime of our device?
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I was really surprised to learn that LG don't have a bootloader unlocking service like even HTC have done and given that the LG never managed to unlock the bootloader, I'm quite surprised that there wasn't more of a community outcry. What is up with that? Have LG ever spoken of supporting the development community? Is it unlikely that we'll see it happen within the flagship lifetime of our device?
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whoa is this 100% correct? if that's the case I will strongly reconsider getting the G3 and will probably go for either M8 or Z2...
Well, coming from an LG Nexus 5, I can tell you that the development community is booming over there. But that's to be expected with a Nexus device. I'm planning on switching from the Nexus 5 to the G3 (ordered yesterday) in an effort to no longer sacrifice hardware in order to get the vanilla Android experience. These days I'd rather give up some of the software advantages in AOSP ROMs in order to get significantly better hardware.
Unfortunately, it's a sacrifice one way or another. And if you buy a phone such as the G3 you must do so expecting that the development for it will take significantly longer and will likely have less options. However, in my opinion the interface/features offered in the latest stock LG interfaces are quite improved and look/feel much better than the interfaces provided by other manufacturers. I don't think I'll have any issue using the stock interface with the LG for many months after coming from the previous 4 generations of Nexus devices.
The vanilla Android experience has gotten quite boring in my opinion and I welcome the features that will be available on LG's stock ROM.
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whoa is this 100% correct? if that's the case I will strongly reconsider getting the G3 and will probably go for either M8 or Z2...
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Sadly yes, it's something I should've looked into in the six months of waiting for this phone. But it's sadly the case. Even on the G2, they couldn't unlock the bootloader and instead had to bypass it.
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Well, coming from an LG Nexus 5, I can tell you that the development community is booming over there. But that's to be expected with a Nexus device. I'm planning on switching from the Nexus 5 to the G3 (ordered yesterday) in an effort to no longer sacrifice hardware in order to get the vanilla Android experience. These days I'd rather give up some of the software advantages in AOSP ROMs in order to get significantly better hardware.
Unfortunately, it's a sacrifice one way or another. And if you buy a phone such as the G3 you must do so expecting that the development for it will take significantly longer and will likely have less options. However, in my opinion the interface/features offered in the latest stock LG interfaces are quite improved and look/feel much better than the interfaces provided by other manufacturers. I don't think I'll have any issue using the stock interface with the LG for many months after coming from the previous 4 generations of Nexus devices.
The vanilla Android experience has gotten quite boring in my opinion and I welcome the features that will be available on LG's stock ROM.
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If you have the patience, I'd recommend waiting a little while to see if they announce a GPe of the G3. That could provide you with the best of both worlds.
Development will improve for sure - the phone has only been out less than a week (D855) with most people still not having received their devices yet and is not even released in the US. It seems the Korean models have shipped with an unlocked bootloader (from what I have heard) and as for the D855 no one has yet confirmed it a) it is locked and b) if it can be unlocked.
I have certainly not looked into it yet myself, although if it is locked, unlocking via any "hacking" method, is beyond my knowledge, someone smarter than me will have to tell us how to do that.
Give it time, development is always slow in the first month of a new device (unless its a nexus), and tends ot only pick up after release in the USA.
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If you have the patience, I'd recommend waiting a little while to see if they announce a GPe of the G3. That could provide you with the best of both worlds.
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Eh, if they release a GP edition G3 it will still pay to have this one because any AOSP ROMs for the GP edition will be quickly ported over to the non-GP edition anyway. I plan on keeping this phone but will also still be happy if they come out with a GP edition as well so we can get some AOSP source code up and running for this device.
And I'm not worried about the bootloader being locked. Someone ALWAYS finds a way to unlock it rather quickly these days.
Personally, my goal with this phone is to root it to get my DPI settings where I want them and get rid of any bloat that may cause the phone to slow down. If I can manage to accomplish those two things, I'll be happy (and it's already doable). My days of rooting, flashing ROMs, bricking, unbricking, and flashing more ROMs are over. At this point I just want a solid phone that works flawlessly.
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Development will improve for sure - the phone has only been out less than a week (D855) with most people still not having received their devices yet and is not even released in the US. It seems the Korean models have shipped with an unlocked bootloader (from what I have heard) and as for the D855 no one has yet confirmed it a) it is locked and b) if it can be unlocked.
I have certainly not looked into it yet myself, although if it is locked, unlocking via any "hacking" method, is beyond my knowledge, someone smarter than me will have to tell us how to do that.
Give it time, development is always slow in the first month of a new device (unless its a nexus), and tends ot only pick up after release in the USA.
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I'm not so much talking about from the community side, I have faith the community will find an unlock or bypass method. I'm more so talking about from LG's point of view. They don't seem to be supportive hence no official channel to unlock the G2 bootloader despite the G3 launching globally this week.
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I'm not so much talking about from the community side, I have faith the community will find an unlock or bypass method. I'm more so talking about from LG's point of view. They don't seem to be supportive hence no official channel to unlock the G2 bootloader despite the G3 launching globally this week.
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Remember it took years to get HTC to provide an unlock tool (and the company nearly going bankrupt!), Moto and Sony were the same - moto becoming better when Google acquired them and Sony nearly gave up making android devices completely before they decided to become more dev friendly.
Basically companies only provide unlock methods as a last resort, when they feel its the only way to improve their sales. LG haven't needed this yet.
There are still plenty of devices where you cannot officially unlock the bootloader, its not just an LG thing.
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Remember it took years to get HTC to provide an unlock tool (and the company nearly going bankrupt!), Moto and Sony were the same - moto becoming better when Google acquired them and Sony nearly gave up making android devices completely before they decided to become more dev friendly.
Basically companies only provide unlock methods as a last resort, when they feel its the only way to improve their sales. LG haven't needed this yet.
There are still plenty of devices where you cannot officially unlock the bootloader, its not just an LG thing.
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I totally hear you, but with the success Sony have enjoyed, you'd hope manufacturers would get involved early on.
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and as for the D855 no one has yet confirmed it a) it is locked and b) if it can be unlocked.
I have certainly not looked into it yet myself, although if it is locked, unlocking via any "hacking" method, is beyond my knowledge, someone smarter than me will have to tell us how to do that.
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Is this something that is easy to check?
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Is this something that is easy to check?
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I can't even access the bootloader. Despite turning USB debugging on, I can't get ADB to recognise the phone. I started a thread to check if others have a similar problem.
It's a flagship, I'm not worried about development support. Look at the g2, it got cm support. Plus the LG software looks decent, not too basic like HTC or too intrusive like Samsungs touchwiz
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I can't even access the bootloader. Despite turning USB debugging on, I can't get ADB to recognise the phone. I started a thread to check if others have a similar problem.
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I rooted D855 yesterday using ioroot and as a part of the process "adb devices" did show the phone with USB debugging on.
I had to install lg unified driver so windows 8 had a right driver for it.
Heisenberg420 said:
It's a flagship, I'm not worried about development support. Look at the g2, it got cm support. Plus the LG software looks decent, not too basic like HTC or too intrusive like Samsungs touchwiz
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This thread is about development support from LG. Please read threads before commenting. The G2 you mentioned was given as an example of the lack of support previously provided by LG.
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I rooted D855 yesterday using ioroot and as a part of the process "adb devices" did show the phone with USB debugging on.
I had to install lg unified driver so windows 8 had a right driver for it.
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Perhaps I need to update my drivers then. Though that's nearly unheard of as I'm on Linux.
If i can atleast root the phone to remove the bloatware, I'll be happy for a little while.
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This thread is about development support from LG. Please read threads before commenting. The G2 you mentioned was given as an example of the lack of support previously provided by LG.
Perhaps I need to update my drivers then. Though that's nearly unheard of as I'm on Linux.
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Hm, i've not check on Linux yet, but it is recognised on windows with the right USB drivers installed. Maybe its lacking some udev rule to properly recognise the device?
The LGD855 boots into recovery with adb reboot recovery, but not the bootloader using adb reboot-bootloader its just reboots. I goes into download mode with power+volume up, that about all ive tried.
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If i can atleast root the phone to remove the bloatware, I'll be happy for a little while.
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towelroot worked.
on Win 7 by flashing sphinxrom for d855 and s,k,l :
when i was installing the lg driver, it installed the AndroidNet Sooner Single ADB Interface
i had to change it Android ADB Interface
what the hell the device just came out give it some time
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what the hell the device just came out give it some time
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What the hell can't you read & understand what OP has said or trying to say? (sorry no offence intended). He isn't talking about the support of the development community to this device(G3), which by the way will certainly pick up from what it is now, but he is talking about LG's support to the development community(being more developer friendly as Sony & HTC).
And even if we talk about how much active Android development this device(& it's variants) will see, then let me tell you that the development activity of this device will(probably) never be as much as you see with other flagship devices like HTC One(M7 & m8), that is because a) HTC is more developer friendly by letting you to unlock the bootloader & thus making easy for developers to port(make) ROMs, recoveries & what not, where as with LG & G2 it is entirely different case(ask any developer involved in G2 development, how difficult it is or was to make a recovery or a ROM for G2 and for common flahers the risk factor of flashing those recoveries & ROMs that much more because all the solutions based on a bypassing solution with many permutations & combinations rather than a fully unlockable bootloader just as with HTC devices and b) they are more popular devices among people(as much successful the G2 was it wasn't sold as many as S4s & S5s or M7s & M8s).
We all hope that LG will follow HTC & Sony in being developer frienly. No doubt they are making beautiful devices like G2 & now G3. But sadly, as one of other member pointed out above, it is at the stage of extinction that a manufacturer tend to be more friendly with developer community.
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What the hell can't you read & understand what OP has said or trying to say? (sorry no offence intended). He isn't talking about the support of the development community to this device(G3), which by the way will certainly pick up from what it is now, but he is talking about LG's support to the development community(being more developer friendly as Sony & HTC).
And even if we talk about how much active Android development this device(& it's variants) will see, then let me tell you that the development activity of this device will(probably) never be as much as you see with other flagship devices like HTC One(M7 & m8), that is because a) HTC is more developer friendly by letting you to unlock the bootloader & thus making easy for developers to port(make) ROMs, recoveries & what not, where as with LG & G2 it is entirely different case(ask any developer involved in G2 development, how difficult it is or was to make a recovery or a ROM for G2 and for common flahers the risk factor of flashing those recoveries & ROMs that much more because all the solutions based on a bypassing solution with many permutations & combinations rather than a fully unlockable bootloader just as with HTC devices and b) they are more popular devices among people(as much successful the G2 was it wasn't sold as many as S4s & S5s or M7s & M8s).
We all hope that LG will follow HTC & Sony in being developer frienly. No doubt they are making beautiful devices like G2 & now G3. But sadly, as one of other member pointed out above, it is at the stage of extinction that a manufacturer tend to be more friendly with developer community.
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i am Guilty of not reading the whole Thread
Hi everyone,
I have juste created a thread asking for the official port of CM on this device (I can't post the link because I'm new....), section device requests.
Be free to comment the post (even a +1) , I am sure you can find the link we google, and we have to prey that they will take a look at it
Kisses
Won't happen until Alcatel releases the source code and given that the phone was just released to canada as recently as June 30th you can expect to wait a couple of months for that.
Just want I want a bug filled rom that gets rid of one problem and another pops up. I just love when we all use cm and the Bluetooth crashes all the time, disconnects, and overall bearly works. I love when the wifi disconnects and you have to restart the phone just to get it to work.
Sorry I'll stick to the stock rom where everything works perfectly fine.
Wont be any cm roms until we get twrp first. Im shocked more devs dont own this device.
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Wont be any cm roms until we get twrp first. Im shocked more devs dont own this device.
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It hasn't even been out 2 months yet. It's an off name most are not familiar with and alcatel's first true shot at an enterprise/flagship level device. It has threads on slickdeals.net advertising it's low price...it will eventually get support by either the source being released or a new exploit being found that can be used to provide temp or perm root...once someone has root they can pull the recovery and boot partitions and development can begin.
It's unrealistic to expect developer's to be jumping all over this phone so soon. I'd never even heard of it till I was looking to buy a zen phone 2 and found so many articles comparing it to the idol 3.
Woukd be nice to have it or either dirty unicorns crdroid or omnirom ^^ now that we have a working TWRP
gecko702 said:
Woukd be nice to have it or either dirty unicorns crdroid or omnirom ^^ now that we have a working TWRP
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it really would xD. Although, I feel like Id miss the stock rom. Even though it is quite slow. TWRP works amazingly!
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it really would xD. Although, I feel like Id miss the stock rom. Even though it is quite slow. TWRP works amazingly!
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yeah id miss it too but meh lol but theres the dolby atmos app that has been ported from a lenovo ROM that should work with our speakers and also there can be a way to port the colorOS camera app from oppo phones those can take up to 50mp shots because they use sony sensors even on the one plus one has been achieved an yet it has the same sony sensor also hopefully xposed framework could work on us because of the adaway for youtube ^^
Well if someone's working on a CM port I'd be interested in helping to test it.
Thatd be nice id help too for testing purposes im a very heavy user and this phone has been keeping up with me lately
I'll throw my vote in for a cm port. as well as another tester if needed. Dont have tons of experience, but I'll be happy to help where I can.
well im pretty sure theres going to be a bounty thread for it or any other rom ^^
hi guys,
i just ordered this phone and soon within this month hopefuly will land in my hands in india.
my question is cant we use sources of other SD 615 phones like MI4I, YUreka and TCL M3G to develop rom for our device/ or cant we use their roms with our stock kernel ???
as TCL M3G is already having cm 12.1 and MIUI V6 and several other roms on movilesdualsim forum
yash_rathore25 said:
hi guys,
i just ordered this phone and soon within this month hopefuly will land in my hands in india.
my question is cant we use sources of other SD 615 phones like MI4I, YUreka and TCL M3G to develop rom for our device/ or cant we use their roms with our stock kernel ???
as TCL M3G is already having cm 12.1 and MIUI V6 and several other roms on movilesdualsim forum
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Can you use the computer chip from a v8 chevy in a v8 ford? The software has to match to the hardware. How is the software going to control the screen when they have different digitizers? Different sound cards. Just as with your pc the drivers have to match the hardware.
Just pray to the phone Gods they roll out a 5.1 update and release it...
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Just pray to the phone Gods they roll out a 5.1 update and release it...
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hahaha praying here too but we need their source code so that someone can work on a ROM for us
One of the CM maintainers, contacted me here on a PM today and requested files from the device. The work on the CM port will be started probably the next week. I will not disclose his ID for now in order to save him from possible questions on PMs. Probably CyanogenMod soon will be available for the Idol ... I just spread the news.
Cool, looking forward to it!
petrov.0 said:
One of the CM maintainers, contacted me here on a PM today and requested files from the device. The work on the CM port will be started probably the next week. I will not disclose his ID for now in order to save him from possible questions on PMs. Probably CyanogenMod soon will be available for the Idol ... I just spread the news.
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Thanks for the update! It's been quiet for a little bit regarding a CM port. Good to see it's still WIP.
While I look forward to having trees to build with, I find it kinda funny that they asked for files when a couple of them have the device already. Unless the files are from a different version?
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Hey guys. I came over to see how many ROMs this phone has, and I was astounded to see the forum empty. Since this phone is supported by the open device program, I'd have thought there would be a vibrant developer community.
What's up with this? No developer interest?
Z5c is also supported by AOSP and there's also not much custom ROMs I guess so far biggest issue is this device is quite new and not so many devs bought it
That's surprising. It's the first time I've seen a device with full kernel support but still not much development.
Usually it's the other way around. Sources are fudged or not released, but developers still find ways to work around it.
andy356 said:
That's surprising. It's the first time I've seen a device with full kernel support but still not much development.
Usually it's the other way around. Sources are fudged or not released, but developers still find ways to work around it.
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yeah the device is very good for development even better than Z5c because it does not have any heating issue, but still nothing
I guess we should wait and see if android 7 makes any difference...
Sony wiping camera keys at the time of bootloader unlock (the camera is a huge selling point for the phone) might have to do with this, it's very likely that devs would want to get TA backup working before focusing on developing ROMs for the phone. But since there aren't any devs here working on that either, we might simply have been doomed as well. The only custom ROM I've found so far was an AOSP Marshmallow build made by FreeXperia, plus Sony's device files released for building AOSP M and N.
Also supposedly 7.0 is around the corner so the few that are thinking about roming may be waiting until after its release. Time will tell.
I think the XC will get zero dev support. You can kinda see a trend in the developers support: I had the z3c which had tons of support, now when I look at the z5c forums there are only very few roms, and for the xc not even one developer has posted something yet. until it won't get easier to unlock and root the xperia phones without messing up the DRM protection there won't be a lot of support. I'm thinking about buying the z5c just for that reason.
:/ This is so bad on Sony's part. They try to give the impression that they're so pro development and pro custom ROMs, but then they mess up the camera if people actually want to do something.
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:/ This is so bad on Sony's part. They try to give the impression that they're so pro development and pro custom ROMs, but then then they mess up the camera if people actually want to do something.
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if someone doesnt find a exploit to root on locked bootloader then nobody will be able to backup ta data. i wont buy a sony phone if rooting means loosing features of the phone.
z3c has support because the giefroot was once found and this enabled all dev to backup ta data with drm. even if they decided to unlock bootloader they were still able to restore ta and lock again bootloader.
sony's aosp way is almost useless for the majority of people. when samsung was at s1/s2/s3 you could flash what you want and no feature was lost as they was nothing related with drm but now there you also have knox and efuse. if you root you will even loose guarantee and this is not reversible.
I guess it's better to look for a Z3 Compact then. I don't want to deal with this DRM nonsense.
Thanks for all the info, guys. I appreciate it.
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I guess it's better to look for a Z3 Compact then. I don't want to deal with this DRM nonsense.
Thanks for all the info, guys. I appreciate it.
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i bought a refurbished z3c again and had my battery replaced just because the z5c has this ****ty 810 snapdragon and the x compact a weird vibration motor (too loud) and several other reasons (no root on locked bootloader) and im fine.
ok maybe i get no nougat on this but i dont care because im still on kitkat because this has best battery handling and all apps are still working on kitkat.
Yeah Z5 compact is out of the picture because of the snapdragon 810. Otherwise my second choice after X Compact would have been that. Oh well. Z3 Compact serves the purpose just as well.
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i bought a refurbished z3c again and had my battery replaced just because the z5c has this ****ty 810 snapdragon and the x compact a weird vibration motor (too loud) and several other reasons (no root on locked bootloader) and im fine.
ok maybe i get no nougat on this but i dont care because im still on kitkat because this has best battery handling and all apps are still working on kitkat.
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yeah as long as roms go, xperia x compact is out of choices but this phone is gonna get nougat and maybe android 8(or whatever version it's gonna be) so I would say go for it, Im really enjoying screen quality on this baby
I built CM13 but I'm not allowed to post in the dev section because I'm not cool enough
Source is at github: heicrd (just drop the local_manifests in, lunch cm_kugo-userdebug, mka bacon)
Flash zip with CM recovery (AndroPlus's TWRP doesn't work too well) or flash images with fastboot
I would post build links but I'm not allowed to post links either
Working:
Cellular/Data (had to switch APN from ATT Gophone to ATT Nextphone for my gophone sim in order to get data)
WiFi
Fingerprint Scanner
Camera
BT
SELinux
Not working (PATCHES WELCOME):
FM Radio (/dev/radio0 is missing)
Music (audio_hw_primary: start_output_stream: cannot set device: Invalid argument)
Not tested:
NFC
Encryption
Special thanks to Sony-Kitakami for serving as a reference
@EliWallace That's great news! All you need to become member is 10 posts, which you can easily gain from participating in the forum. Then you can post in the dev section.
It's good to see someone take the initiative. I would have liked to do it too, but my knowledge is limited to Android customisation and adb/fastboot commands. :/
I'm sure the other members here would be willing to give you a hand in beta testing and general feedback.
@EliWallace And please make sure you take care of GPL compliance from the very beginning. Devs and mods here take it very seriously. Don't want to see possibly the only custom ROM being bogged down by such pointless issues. Good luck!
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@EliWallace And please make sure you take care of GPL compliance from the very beginning.
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Should be fully gpl compliant (source hosted on github: see first post). Most of it is just rebasing Sony-Kitakami commits to Loire/kugo or cherry-picking upstream commits (as described in the Sony aosp build guide; I didn't write a single line of original code).
In other news, Bluetooth works but fmradio does not.
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Devs and mods here take it very seriously. Don't want to see possibly the only custom ROM being bogged down by such pointless issues.
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As they should.
EliWallace said:
I built CM13 but I'm not allowed to post in the dev section because I'm not cool enough
Source is at github: heicrd (just drop the local_manifests in, lunch cm_kugo-userdebug, mka bacon)
Flash zip with CM recovery (AndroPlus's TWRP doesn't work too well) or flash images with fastboot
I would post build links but I'm not allowed to post links either
Working:
Cellular/Data (had to switch APN from ATT Gophone to ATT Nextphone for my gophone sim in order to get data)
Audio
WiFi
Fingerprint Scanner
Camera
Not tested:
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NFC
Encryption
Special thanks to Sony-Kitakami for serving as a reference
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You're cool enough to me Eli Do you know if the DRM kernel patch work for the XC?
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You're cool enough to me Eli Do you know if the DRM kernel patch work for the XC?
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Interesting that the camera is working on your build. I build Aosp 7.0 and everthing is working but not the camera and deep sleep (only if bluetooth is enabled, but i think they have fixed it today).
You are mixing the kernel (from android 6.0/7.0) with device tree from android 7.1 and the camera is working.
@EliWallace Post 6 of the most random comments here if needs be. We need you in Dev asap
Great work!!
I will be creating a repository of root methods and guides, recoveries, roms and stock files. This will be a one stop shop for all your developer needs.
So far the only development. Is by Janjan, providing root, and a twrp recovery
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xa1-ultra/development/g3221-built-sources-t3622886
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I will be creating a repository of root methods and guides, recoveries, roms and stock files. This will be a one stop shop for all your developer needs.
So far the only development. Is by Janjan, providing root, and a twrp recovery
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xa1-ultra/development/g3221-built-sources-t3622886
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considering all development for this device, from the only dev that ever worked on it, has stopped. I regret buying this device. I thought for sure Sony would have better action than this. I had a note 2 before this, and they were still developing for that phone when I stopped using it 2 months Ago. I think im going to try to sell it. it's really pathetic. but it is what it is
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I am in the process of moving but once that is done I will be working on porting a few roms so that we have some choices. Don't give up yet. I have faith in the community
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I am in the process of moving but once that is done I will be working on porting a few roms so that we have some choices. Don't give up yet. I have faith in the community
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I just bought this coming from a Nexus 6P and was surprised that nothing had really been done with it it seems to be a good phone, just some of the stock options suck lol. I saw your thread for root and custom recovery and am going to try it I'm the next couple days.
You said you are going to be porting some Roms over, any ideas which you will be attempting? If you are taking requests I wouldn't mind Pure Nexus.. It's pretty kickass from a well known dev.. Or maybe even crdroid (lineage based)? Thanks for your work so far and keep at it.. Like I said, pretty good phone, just no development much yet.
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I just bought this coming from a Nexus 6P and was surprised that nothing had really been done with it it seems to be a good phone, just some of the stock options suck lol. I saw your thread for root and custom recovery and am going to try it I'm the next couple days.
You said you are going to be porting some Roms over, any ideas which you will be attempting? If you are taking requests I wouldn't mind Pure Nexus.. It's pretty kickass from a well known dev.. Or maybe even crdroid (lineage based)? Thanks for your work so far and keep at it.. Like I said, pretty good phone, just no development much yet.
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The option for root and recovery is done by JanJan who has stopped working on this device. Please give him a thanks and your credit. Mid level phones have a habit of taking a few months to really get development going. But this phone should have plenty in the coming months!
I'd like to jump in for kernel and recovery development, but the problem is I don't have experience and I have to setup a dedicated Linux machine from one of unused laptop. Also, I have to work like everybody. I have four Xperia (Z Ultra, XA Ultra, XA1 Ultra, and L1). I just need other developers to help me get started.
Note: I only have US version except Z Ultra (C6833).
Hii
Just to give my opinion too on this topic
I did the mistake.. Usually I do my own research by google-ing all the reviews
Then I read some opinions, then i look also on you tube and then the most important
I do look at xda forum to see the support of the device
And i saw all that...but than I saw the forum is not like I am used to..its like dead .. not
just there are no one posting things..but the custom rom support is not there...
Well, I said to me also... ok its a 6 inch.. not everybody likes phablets..
Like, 5 inch is more popular.. maybe that is the reson there are no development..
And then I said..ok announced in Feb/March but just got to the market about May..
So..new device..should be some development..
Unfortunally I got one with bootloader unlock NO status..
And now I can not even get root..
But still... It was weird to have such an phone on XDA with dead forum all at all
Did a bit more research last few day after I got the device
As It looks like all the X series from the Sony Xperia... has no support..
Like there are 7 or 8 devices from the X series and the only one is the X Performance Model wich has like 4 to 5 custom roms
and a few stock modified kernels..
All the other phones do not have anything..
Or let me say the best example the XA Ultra also 6 inch from last year 2016 Model
Has not evan 1 thread or commend under xda forum for custom roms or kernels or what ever..like
more then one year and what?? Nothing..
So I do not hope we will have anything...not to get fooled its a new devices it will be in time and
we will need to wait ... bla bla bla.. nothing will happen
The best thing is to fool yourself with different launchers so that after some of use of the phone
You get sort of a feeling you did flash something..and get the feeling you changed the phone
Thats all...
Would point to NOVA laungher..and some others wich have much settings to modify the looks and
the way it works...
I really to not think anything will happen.. ever
i bought the regular xa1 thinking that there'd be insane development going on for it. looking back, i shouldn't have unlocked bootloader, and looked at getting different phone. if i try to take it back to the store now even though it's under 1 year warranty, they'll just say, "oh we can't replace it, we got to send it off to sony" in which case they won't do anything as sony will see that the bootloader is unlocked
Not to say custom ROMs aren't great and all, I too was here for the good stuff, but people complaining and taking phones back is a bit dramatic.
The stock ROM is great. It doesn't really need a custom ROM. It's a perfectly reasonable phone by itself.
A custom ROM makes sense in phones such as Samsung, Huawei and Xiaomi, where they botch everything to make it "unique", but Sony phones tread the line carefully to keep it pure as possible whilst adding actual useful features.
If you're picking up phones just to hack them, maybe you should try to start your own development on them. Get the toolchains, bring up a Linux system and get creative. Then you can be the hero of your own story.
What is the best way to return to fully stock? Relock the bootloader and flash the latest firmware? Might sell mine too and get an Essential PH-1.
So since this is my first Sony device and may be my last for a few reasons question I want to return everything to stock, and I use the method that was provided it won't relock bootloader right? I have to manually relock it like any other device? I just wanna return to stock so I can try and see what it take to get a Oreo rom once the update comes through.
Actually maybe do some research when this phone first came out with had start of support. We have twrp and custom kernel. There's a search button. Try it out.
I know that this thread seems to be dead but I was wondering if someone could share the sound file for plugging in the charging cord
Every where i look the Qualcomm moto e4 custom development is stagnant. Not even security updates. Does anyone know if anything's happening for this phone??...............
I've been trying to teach myself everything i can about Android but I'm not at the level where i can code the OS to my preference.
Thank you for any and all help
neojpl said:
Every where i look the Qualcomm moto e4 custom development is stagnant. Not even security updates. Does anyone know if anything's happening for this phone??...............
I've been trying to teach myself everything i can about Android but I'm not at the level where i can code the OS to my preference.
Thank you for any and all help
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OTAs on stock seem relatively current (XT1768). Toss in Xposed framework and a few well regarded modules and there is no need to muck with a custom ROM and the associated headaches. I know...stock sucks by definition just because it isn't custom or carry a boss name. iDK bro - I kinda like to use my device vs manage it. Radical.
Davey126 said:
OTAs on stock seem relatively current (XT1768). Toss in Xposed framework and a few well regarded modules and there is no need to muck with a custom ROM and the associated headaches. I know...stock sucks by definition just it isn't custom or carry a boss name. iDK bro - I kinda like to use my device vs manage it. Radical.
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My pc stopped working for no apparent reason. Or i would definitely be back on stock w/xposed. Thanks
neojpl said:
Every where i look the Qualcomm moto e4 custom development is stagnant. Not even security updates. Does anyone know if anything's happening for this phone??...............
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I was wondering the same thing. Just got a boost xt1766 which (from what I read) I had to put on a custom ROM to get it working with gsm carriers. I flashed the unofficial lineage is 14.1 from @squid2 and its working great, but no security updates since December.
I was wondering if development is not happening for a reason (issue with this device) or is it likely to pick up when Lenovo stops putting out OTAs for it?
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I was wondering the same thing. Just got a boost xt1766 which (from what I read) I had to put on a custom ROM to get it working with gsm carriers. I flashed the unofficial lineage is 14.1 from @squid2 and its working great, but no security updates since December.
I was wondering if development is not happening for a reason (issue with this device) or is it likely to pick up when Lenovo stops putting out OTAs for it?
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For me, it's just been that I had neither time nor the mood to work on it when my father fell ill and later passed away. I've started working on Android again, but it'll probably be a month or two before I get around to revisiting this device (if I do). I'm currently focused on the msm8916 family that i support officially.
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For me, it's just been that I had neither time nor the mood to work on it when my father fell ill and later passed away. I've started working on Android again, but it'll probably be a month or two before I get around to revisiting this device (if I do). I'm currently focused on the msm8916 family that i support officially.
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I am saddened to learn of your fathers passing. I was aware he took ill but did not know the magnitude. Best wishes to you and family during a difficult time.
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For me, it's just been that I had neither time nor the mood to work on it when my father fell ill and later passed away. I've started working on Android again, but it'll probably be a month or two before I get around to revisiting this device (if I do). I'm currently focused on the msm8916 family that i support officially.
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Very sorry to hear of your father's passing. I did not want this to be a push for anyone to help, just wondering out loud. Thanks for the response and I wish you and your family my deepest condolences for your loss.
astrod said:
I was wondering the same thing. Just got a boost xt1766 which (from what I read) I had to put on a custom ROM to get it working with gsm carriers. I flashed the unofficial lineage is 14.1 from @squid2 and its working great, but no security updates since December.
I was wondering if development is not happening for a reason (issue with this device) or is it likely to pick up when Lenovo stops putting out OTAs for it?
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There is a telegram group with more active development. Pm for a link.