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Hey Folks,
First and foremost, I'm not hear to start bickering with anybody...just here to share. Yesterday, I received my TF from BB via UPS. I was anxious to get it but at the same time had fingers crossed being that there's been quite a few documented issues both hardware and software related. As I turned on the device, the first thing that was blaring at me was there was screen separation. This was under the bezel where I could see the white of the black light clearly. Not the same as light bleed (there was some of that also). I went ahead and setup my account but had already known at that point that I was going to at least replace the unit. Initially, the unit was on 3.0.1, but after the battery had charged to about 70%, I got the notification that the 3.1 update was available. Now prior to me updating, which in all honesty wasn't a ton of time, I was experiencing FC's left and right. Believe me, I'm not the drama queen type, BUT IT WAS FREQUENT. Next thing I noticed was that, albiet not to thick, the tablet was quite heavy..a fair share of fatigue after holding for a short spell. In the TF's defense, I know a Xoom would have been equally taxing, as would an Iconia, etc.
Now I had been in Best Buy the same day that my TF came in the mail and saw that the Tab 10.1 was being released the next day (today). BTW...I live in NYC and was at the Union Square location. Fast forward to today; I was contemplating what I was going to do. Should I replace the unit with another and take the chance that everything is okay or do I choose something else. Low and behold, greatly due to the fact that there have been so many reports over various forums, I chose the Tab 10.1.
I've just had it a couple hours now, but so far here's what's evident. It is quite a bit lighter and more comfortable in hand.There's just about 0 light bleed. The colors are brighter on the Tab (take that as a pro or con....the colors are 'Galaxy S' oversaturated). There have been 0 FC's and the Tab is noticeably more responsive even when compared to the TF after it updated to 3.1. I'll miss the TF's widgets and extra cloud/DNLA services even though I never got a chance to hook it up. It's good to know that there are already accessories available that are made just for the tab. I bought a book style case for it from Belkin. '
All-in-all, I felt a bit let down enough by the TF to quickly decide that it wasn't the right choice for me. If any of you are feeling the same, I pray that provided you don't have any major hardware issues that Asus and Google can straighten them out with future updates. As for me, I prefer to take a less tentative unsure route.
Interesting. Thanks for the input.
Is there a keyboard case for the tab?
no microsd? dealbreaker.
samsung qual control? dealbreaker.
active # of developers for tab? semi dealbreaker.
love the TF. love the dev community. love the dock. good luck with the tab.
Keyboard Case? Not sure. I saw the Keyboard today, but don't know about the case to be honest.
chotabk said:
no microsd? dealbreaker.
samsung qual control? dealbreaker.
active # of developers for tab? semi dealbreaker.
love the TF. love the dev community. love the dock. good luck with the tab.
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Call it the luck of the draw and I hope I continue to be lucky, but as I'm using I haven't encountered anything as yet. But again, this is just after a couple hours of use. I will tell you this much though, there are certain options that I can't seem to find on the Tab...such as the option to have the Tab be seen as a desktop device so less mobile pages load. As far as the microsd, it's not that big of dealbreaker for me as I don't necessarily need to have a ton of movies or music on the device. I'll be able to hold a decent share, but it was never one of my major objectives to load the baby up like I would an ipod or my mac. I may change my tune. I guess time will tell.
chotabk said:
no microsd? dealbreaker.
samsung qual control? dealbreaker.
active # of developers for tab? semi dealbreaker.
love the TF. love the dev community. love the dock. good luck with the tab.
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+ $100 more than TF. Dealbreaker
Fyahstarter said:
Call it the luck of the draw and I hope I continue to be lucky, but as I'm using I haven't encountered anything as yet. But again, this is just after a couple hours of use. I will tell you this much though, there are certain options that I can't seem to find on the Tab...such as the option to have the Tab be seen as a desktop device so less mobile pages load. As far as the microsd, it's not that big of dealbreaker for me as I don't necessarily need to have a ton of movies or music on the device. I'll be able to hold a decent share, but it was never one of my major objectives to load the baby up like I would an ipod or my mac. I may change my tune. I guess time will tell.
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Could you do more test for us if possible? What is the load time for the browser? Is there lag when typing on forums like xda? How is the battery life? Thanks
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The colors are brighter on the Tab (take that as a pro or con....the colors are 'Galaxy S' oversaturated).
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This is where your rant fell apart for me.
The reason the colours are so saturated on the Galaxy S phones is because of the SuperAMOLED screen they have in them.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 uses a traditional TFT panel which is absolutely nothing special whatsoever, TFT is the most basic screen technology you can get right now.
You are imagining things, dust and light bleed issues aside the IPS panel in the Transformer is far, far superior to the ancient TFT panel in the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
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You are imagining things, dust and light bleed issues aside the IPS panel in the Transformer is far, far superior to the ancient TFT panel in the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
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The Galaxy Tab 10.1 has a PLS panel which is suppose to be an incremental improvement over IPS with even better viewing angles and brightness.
Shawn_230 said:
This is where your rant fell apart for me.
The reason the colours are so saturated on the Galaxy S phones is because of the SuperAMOLED screen they have in them.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 uses a traditional TFT panel which is absolutely nothing special whatsoever, TFT is the most basic screen technology you can get right now.
You are imagining things, dust and light bleed issues aside the IPS panel in the Transformer is far, far superior to the ancient TFT panel in the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
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What are you talking about??? The 10.1 US verison runs on a PLS screen which is a IPS panel....Maybe you're thinking about the 10.1V which was release eariler this yr.
I dunno, just looked on Samsung's website and it said 10.1 WXGA TFT panel.
I guess it may have been the non-US version.
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This is where your rant fell apart for me.
The reason the colours are so saturated on the Galaxy S phones is because of the SuperAMOLED screen they have in them.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 uses a traditional TFT panel which is absolutely nothing special whatsoever, TFT is the most basic screen technology you can get right now.
You are imagining things, dust and light bleed issues aside the IPS panel in the Transformer is far, far superior to the ancient TFT panel in the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
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The tab has a pls display (better than ips) not tft. And the saturation has nothing to do with being an amoled or not. Samsung just likes to increase the saturation on its displays so they look more appealing
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I dunno, just looked on Samsung's website and it said 10.1 WXGA TFT panel.
I guess it may have been the non-US version.
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That is just a very generic description for 1280x800 LCD. Even IPS panels are WXGA TFT. That isn't suppose to tell you what kind of panel it is, be it TN, VA, IPS, or PLS.
So the description is correct, it's just vague in not including the panel type.
aim1126 said:
The tab has a pls display (better than ips) not tft. And the saturation has nothing to do with being an amoled or not. Samsung just likes to increase the saturation on its displays so they look more appealing
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Learn to read, this fact was already pointed out by at least two other people. Jesus, do people just enjoy kicking someone while they are down?
Also, I'm still not entirely sure. I'm looking at some sites and I see a lot of them listing a WXGA TFT display.
Edit: Okay, I guess this link confirms it. I still don't care though, I just went through two months of Transformer back-order bullcrap and I'm guessing it will be the same story with the Galaxy Tab for a while.
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That is just a very generic description for 1280x800 LCD. Even IPS panels are WXGA TFT. That isn't suppose to tell you what kind of panel it is, be it TN, VA, IPS, or PLS.
So the description is correct, it's just vague in not including the panel type.
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Yeah, but when they just say TFT it usually means the crappiest kind. If they had something to advertise they would (well looks like they do, not sure why they don't advertise the SuperPLS panel more).
I'm still undecided what to do with my Transformer. This is the second one I've had. Sounds like my first had the same issue the OP has with his and my second has a light colored blotch in the middle of the screen.
Both tablets have some very positive qualities. So hard to weight what is going to be more important to me.
Transformer
+ $100 cheaper
+ micro SD
+ mini HDMI
+ netbook style keydock
Galaxy Tab 10.1
+ lighter and rounded edges (more comfortable)
+ better speakers
+ PLS display
+ LED flash
+ just better looking
Almost afraid to say it, because I detest custom UI, but I almost want to give the Galaxy Tab 10.1 a + for TouchWiz UX. The demo of it actually has some very nice looking features.
Because of the lack of micro SD I almost certainly will need to spend $200 more for a 32GB Galaxy Tab 10.1, versus the 16GB Transformer I'm using now with my 16GB micro SD card. So the price difference is greater (I am sure I need more than 16GB for a tablet).
Shawn_230 said:
Learn to read, this fact was already pointed out by at least two other people. Jesus, do people just enjoy kicking someone while they are down?
Also, I'm still not entirely sure. I'm looking at some sites and I see a lot of them listing a WXGA TFT display.
Edit: Okay, I guess this link confirms it. I still don't care though, I just went through two months of Transformer back-order bullcrap and I'm guessing it will be the same story with the Galaxy Tab for a while.
Yeah, but when they just say TFT it usually means the crappiest kind. If they had something to advertise they would (well looks like they do, not sure why they don't advertise the SuperPLS panel more).
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Relax dude. Those people answered while I was typing my message. I'm not a very fast aat typing I guess lol
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aim1126 said:
Relax dude. Those people answered while I was typing my message. I'm not a very fast aat typing I guess lol
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Sorry, my experience has been that people like to gang up. Someone makes a clerical error and makes a misinformed statement, one person points out this error and it should end there. But usually you get a dozen other people join in and say the same thing just to feel good.
So yeah, sorry that I misunderstood your intent.
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I'm still undecided what to do with my Transformer. This is the second one I've had. Sounds like my first had the same issue the OP has with his and my second has a light colored blotch in the middle of the screen.
Both tablets have some very positive qualities. So hard to weight what is going to be more important to me.
Transformer
+ $100 cheaper
+ micro SD
+ mini HDMI
+ netbook style keydock
Galaxy Tab 10.1
+ lighter and rounded edges (more comfortable)
+ better speakers
+ PLS display
+ LED flash
+ just better looking
Almost afraid to say it, because I detest custom UI, but I almost want to give the Galaxy Tab 10.1 a + for TouchWiz UX. The demo of it actually has some very nice looking features.
Because of the lack of micro SD I almost certainly will need to spend $200 more for a 32GB Galaxy Tab 10.1, versus the 16GB Transformer I'm using now with my 16GB micro SD card. So the price difference is greater (I am sure I need more than 16GB for a tablet).
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Same here. My TF is on its way to Asus for Repair. My display went dead after 1 months.... Before, having an sd slot was very important to me, but now its not cause I pretty much stream all my videos from my server at home with plex. What I like about the 10.1 is the battery life (engadget review) got 10 hrs, and better speakers. I am going to purchase 10.1 next week from Bestbuy and test it out. IF its good, then my TF will go straight to Ebay.
Here is an mini comparison of both Tablet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV8GggJuKe8
dazz87 said:
Could you do more test for us if possible? What is the load time for the browser? Is there lag when typing on forums like xda? How is the battery life? Thanks
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Im typing in the browser now and there is a bit of lag, but one thing that makes it a bit easier is that the Tab has haptic feedback. The TF didnt or by default it was turned off. The lag is definitely there though.
Shawn_230 said:
This is where your rant fell apart for me.
The reason the colours are so saturated on the Galaxy S phones is because of the SuperAMOLED screen they have in them.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 uses a traditional TFT panel which is absolutely nothing special whatsoever, TFT is the most basic screen technology you can get right now.
You are imagining things, dust and light bleed issues aside the IPS panel in the Transformer is far, far superior to the ancient TFT panel in the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
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Again, I'm not here to bicker or say mine is bettrr than yours, I'm just sharing. However, at the same time I'm not imagining things. The colors are very bright. Similar to what i have seen on Galaxy S phones. Moreover, that's not necessarily a pro. I am more partial to colors being closer to neutral.
ouch...
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/22/motorola-xoom-display-is-low-end-and-poorly-calibrated-according-to-displaymate-showdown/
Say it aint so. Heh
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Just a repost of what Xoom owners have known since they first bought their tablet.
The screen is garbage.
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Just a repost of what Xoom owners have known since they first bought their tablet.
The screen is garbage.
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I like mine but that crap about the screen dimmer is true and it is annoying
Yawn neeeeeext!
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The screen is just as good as any regular average computer monitor.
Transformer= cheap p.o.s. build quality & ****ty battery (tablet only, who really cares about it's performance as a netbook? if i wanted one i'd buy one)
Ipad2= nice, but like being on house arrest, or watching tv with everything over PG on parental lock. far too many limits.
I'm very happy with my Xoom and it's "bad" screen.
Hi all,
Well the first thing i did when i set my Xoom up was turn off Auto Brightness as i do on all my devcies and turned brightness on full and found the screen on the Xoom to be bright and sharp. Then i strated reading all these posts about how poor the Xoom screen was and just couldn't understand it at all as my experiences are totally different. Only when i turned on the Auto brightness did i suddenly see what the compliants where about as it made the screen horrible. But really the fix is so simple just don't use Auto brightness and its all good IMHO.
Marc
Actually, if you read carefully through the test results, none of the displays did all that well. What really put the XOOM screen in last place was screen reflections and poor viewing angles, in most other critical tests, results were equal to or close to the competition.
If you put an anti-reflective screen protector on the XOOM, it compensates well for the XOOM's biggest shortcoming, screen reflections - (I use Boxwave Cleartouch Anti-Glare on the XOOM) the difference is pretty amazing and the screen looks quite good.
I am surprised that these professional reviewers made no mention of the two versions of the XOOM screen. So we don't even know which screen version they reviewed.
i llike the zoom screen. With autobrightness on.
Yep, I've turned off auto-brighness and have an anti-glare, anti-fingerprint screen protector and I've never looked back. I have zero complaints about the screen now.
Who actually compares screens side by side? It's a bit like a ****-length contest. I'm happy with mine but I don't feel the need to wave it about next to others to impress....
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Who actually compares screens side by side? It's a bit like a ****-length contest. I'm happy with mine but I don't feel the need to wave it about next to others to impress....
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+1. I completely agree. This whole thread seems like not much more than an exercise to justify someone's choice to sell the Xoom for another tablet.
I use A LOT of devices during my work day....and in terms of day to day use I have been very happy with the Xoom's screen.
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Who actually compares screens side by side? It's a bit like a ****-length contest. I'm happy with mine but I don't feel the need to wave it about next to others to impress....
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I totally agree. There will always be something bigger ( so to speak) and better what I find funny is that they didn't mention the bleeds and dust specks people are having on those other screens. There screen might be better but mines clearer oh and it works like it suppose to.
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I went to Bestbuy on Sat and looked at the SGT10.1 and iPad 2, played with both for a good few minutes, I'd say the iPad is at the top in terms of screen crispness and picture quality, iPad OS in general is very polished ... the SGT and Xoom imo is a close second, I have an anti glare protector on my Xoom so it does reduce the picture quality obviously. As said above set the brightness to 50-60% and you will see the Xoom screen pop.
All in all the Xoom will stay with me for two reasons ... SD card access (I have mine rooted so no crying about lack of SD access) and 2ndly it is so versatile having access to ROM's and Kernels, this kills my desire to ever want an iPad, I hate to be boxed in.
It's funny, the screen was one of the major reasons I returned my iPad2. I hated it because the resolution was too low, which made text look horrible.
The Xoom screen is brilliant as long as you take the brightness off auto.
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The Xoom screen is brilliant as long as you take the brightness off auto.
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That! Think that this was the first thing that I did on my Xoom.
I was using an ipad 2 the other day and yes the screen is far clearer but my xoom feels more like a mans toy rather then a childs toy.
dont mind having a worse screen when my battery lasts 4 days and i can do what i want with it and not controlled my apple.
also wouldnt get the transformer due to the speaker locations makes it to wide.
you get what you are happy with.
i love my xoom. i came from the viewsonic gtab so i naturally love the xoom screen compared to the gtab.
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I totally agree. There will always be something bigger ( so to speak) and better what I find funny is that they didn't mention the bleeds and dust specks people are having on those other screens. There screen might be better but mines clearer oh and it works like it suppose to.
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I think it's silly the "guru" of displays didn't review the GTab 10.1, since it's using a PLS screen which is Samsung's competitor to IPS.
Regarding the 'comparison' comments however: I was recently seated next to a woman on a flight from NYC and she had an iPad2. As I sat there and looked at a magazine on my xoom, I couldn't help but notice that her screen had outstanding viewing angles. When I put the xoom onto my lap and looked at it, the colors washed out and looked terrible. I ended up returning it and bought a GTab instead.
So - I think comparisons are valid, here. Especially in an environment where a direct comparison could be made. In my case it was on a plane, where I happen to be a lot.
The GTab's screen is fantastic. As good as the iPad2. The build quality on my unit is fine, but there are a lot of complaints about dust under the screen, and so on. I would gladly go back to the 'thicker' xoom if they came out with a higher quality screen. The xoom felt great. But in the end, the screen sucked (I had the Sharp with bad light leakage) and that was, in a word, unacceptable - no matter how many people trumpet out that screen bleeding on tablets is normal. It's not.
Hi guys, I am itching to buy a note even though I am with Sprint and would nver switch to ATT. I keep convincng myself to wait but, just not sure this kind of screen realestate will surface in a phone again. I have read just about every forum and review in the past several weeks- at least twice...lol.... The only thing that is holding me up is warranty concerns and the pen tile screen. I have been bothered by every pentile screen I have seen and can clearly see pixels when others claims that you would never see them with normal use or that they don't not exist. I would love to see one in person to aid my buying decision. I am not at all concerned about the size, only the screen as I tend to watch movies, read ebooks, and surf the web more than anything? Please let me know, thanks.
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linzgeneral said:
Hi guys, I am itching to buy a note even though I am with Sprint and would nver switch to ATT. I keep convincng myself to wait but, just not sure this kind of screen realestate will surface in a phone again. I have read just about every forum and review in the past several weeks- at least twice...lol.... The only thing that is holding me up is warranty concerns and the pen tile screen. I have been bothered by every pentile screen I have seen and can clearly see pixels when others claims that you would never see them with normal use or that they don't not exist. I would love to see one in person to aid my buying decision. I am not at all concerned about the size, only the screen as I tend to watch movies, read ebooks, and surf the web more than anything? Please let me know, thanks.
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Like you I use mines for the same thing books, netflix and wed.
I look passed the pixels thing and just took the plunge and bought the Note
been happy and no complaints.
I see people talking about volume issues, screen issues, screen lock issues the only issue I had was the size. it's too small for my liking and that's cause Im coming from the Tad 7'' used as cell phone for 1 year.
like Nike just do it. lol
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Not in Jax, but in Everett, WA with my Note. Had it for about two Weeks, and I love this dang thing. Lol. The display and snapiness of the processor sold me. This is my very first Android device, and I have to say that I am very happy with it. I highly recommend this phone. Once you get this screen you'll never back to anything smaller.
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Im in Tallahassee Florida with my 24hr old galaxy note. I guess im no expert at screens but this screen is beautiful. Ive had the Tmobile Vibrant and recently just sold my release day international sgs2. The screen is not as bright as my sgs2 but its still top notch. Its crystal clear. You will NOT regret your decision.
Yesturday at work, I watch all my coworkers jaws drop at this device. Most have Moto Razr, iphone4s, streak, incredible s2, and some other new android devices.
Seems like samsung devices are subject to witch hunts, if you look hard enough your bound to find something. I can say with certainty, that I will not have another device until Galaxy Note 2 is out. Mind you Ive had every highend device thats been released in the last 2 years.
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Im in Tallahassee Florida with my 24hr old galaxy note. I guess im no expert at screens but this screen is beautiful. Ive had the Tmobile Vibrant and recently just sold my release day international sgs2. The screen is not as bright as my sgs2 but its still top notch. Its crystal clear. You will NOT regret your decision.
Yesturday at work, I watch all my coworkers jaws drop at this device. Most have Moto Razr, iphone4s, streak, incredible s2, and some other new android devices.
Seems like samsung devices are subject to witch hunts, if you look hard enough your bound to find something. I can say with certainty, that I will not have another device until Galaxy Note 2 is out.Ho Mind you Ive had every highend device thats been released in the last 2 years.
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Thanks . Where did you buy yours and how sharp is the text compared to the Iphone 4?
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Thanks . Where did you buy yours and how sharp is the text compared to the Iphone 4?
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I truly don't understand the fuss over the iphone screen. I was without a phone for a couple of hours yesterday and used my coworkers iphone. I had to zoom in on every page unlike my sgs2, infuse and now note. If you were watching me using the phone, you would have thought I was blind trying to navigate ebay, xda, fedex, usps and a few other sites.
Not going to go into long detail but all in all I liked the tmo vibrants screen better than the iphones. Sgs2 and note in my opionion blows other devices out of the water.
Im no sales man or speaker for samsung, but I couldnt imagine using anything other then amoled displays. I went a total 4 weeks without my sgs2, and in between I had a atrix and htc inspire. They both were sold the moment I found a buyer.
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I truly don't understand the fuss over the iphone screen. I was without a phone for a couple of hours yesterday and used my coworkers iphone. I had to zoom in on every page unlike my sgs2, infuse and now note. If you were watching me using the phone, you would have thought I was blind trying to navigate ebay, xda, fedex, usps and a few other sites.
Not going to go into long detail but all in all I liked the tmo vibrants screen better than the iphones. Sgs2 and note in my opionion blows other devices out of the water.
Im no sales man or speaker for samsung, but I couldnt imagine using anything other then amoled displays. I went a total 4 weeks without my sgs2, and in between I had a atrix and htc inspire. They both were sold the moment I found a buyer.
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Thanks for the feedback. Thats exactly my point. I hated the vibrant's screen because the text looks like Lego blocks. I have a Sprint GS2 and the resolution just isn't good? enough as the text could look jagged and blurry sometimes. I would match prefer the sharp and solid - e ink type of resolution/text on say an IPhone 4 rather than the sometimes oversatuarated color on the Samsungs. That's why I ask about the IPhone 4 screen, not so much for color or contrast but for the sharpness of text sine I read alot; trust me I would never buy an IPhone with a baby screen size from three years ago. The HTC Rezound is the only screen I have seen thus far that can match an Iphone 4 in this regard but that screen size at 4.3 has now become too small for my taste...lol...
Got my 32G+HPSA Nexus7 yesterday and boy was I disappointed: it feels
like a cheap piece of plastic compared to my Galaxy Tab 7.7.
Problems:
- thicker than my 1-year old gtab 7.7
- huge bezel, small screen: lots of wasted real-estate, an 8" screen
could easily have been fitted in that case
- no forward-facing camera
- no phone function (I knew that, but still, how much would it cost to
add it, and really convenient when travelling to put a 'local' SIM)
- bad screen, washed out colors, nowhere near the crispness and quality
of a Gtab 7.7
I will keep it though for my kids, but it's a let down.
What is the successor the the Galaxy Tab 7.7?
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Got my 32G+HPSA Nexus7 yesterday and boy was I disappointed: it feels
like a cheap piece of plastic compared to my Galaxy Tab 7.7.
Problems:
- thicker than my 1-year old gtab 7.7
- huge bezel, small screen: lots of wasted real-estate, an 8" screen
could easily have been fitted in that case
- no forward-facing camera
- no phone function (I knew that, but still, how much would it cost to
add it, and really convenient when travelling to put a 'local' SIM)
- bad screen, washed out colors, nowhere near the crispness and quality
of a Gtab 7.7
I will keep it though for my kids, but it's a let down.
What is the successor the the Galaxy Tab 7.7?
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i agree with you, the only thing is really cool in the N7 is the smoothness of the JB.
nothing else.
once we got out JB, N7 doesn't stand out in front of G7.7 in anything.
Well, the price says a lot about it. Super AMOLED Plus is quite expensive to produce. It is the perfect AmoLED, even better than the Note 2's semi-pentile AmoLED screen without the Plus. =)
About the phone function, you can download Apps to enable it, just like you can download camera apps to shoot pictures using the front facing cam of the Nexus 7.
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Well, the price says a lot about it. Super AMOLED Plus is quite expensive to produce. It is the perfect AmoLED, even better than the Note 2's semi-pentile AmoLED screen without the Plus. =)
About the phone function, you can download Apps to enable it, just like you can download camera apps to shoot pictures using the front facing cam of the Nexus 7.
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So what you're saying is that I should look for a "Super AMOLED Plus"
screen in my next tablet to get a similar quality as the Gtab7.7 ?
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i agree with you, the only thing is really cool in the N7 is the smoothness of the JB.
nothing else.
once we got out JB, N7 doesn't stand out in front of G7.7 in anything.
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+1
also there is so much more development going on for the nexus...
zafu said:
Got my 32G+HPSA Nexus7 yesterday and boy was I disappointed: it feels
like a cheap piece of plastic compared to my Galaxy Tab 7.7.
Problems:
- thicker than my 1-year old gtab 7.7
- huge bezel, small screen: lots of wasted real-estate, an 8" screen
could easily have been fitted in that case
- no forward-facing camera
- no phone function (I knew that, but still, how much would it cost to
add it, and really convenient when travelling to put a 'local' SIM)
- bad screen, washed out colors, nowhere near the crispness and quality
of a Gtab 7.7
I will keep it though for my kids, but it's a let down.
What is the successor the the Galaxy Tab 7.7?
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Hi Guys,
I'm currently eagerly awaiting delivery of an almost new GTab 7.7 to replace my Gtab 8.9... hope it lives up to the hype!
I heard that Samsung are going to bring out a Galaxy Note 7.7.... a natural successor i guess. Though I'm sure for my purposes the Chip, screen and form of the original 7.7 will be more than enough for the next year or two
Wow!You posted the same thing in the nexus 7 section.Tell me more about how much better the GTab is. -.-
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The TabPro 8.4 price just dropped to US$ 349.99 both at Amazon and BestBuy:
Amazon (screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/6uyD4aB.jpg)
Best Buy (screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/fcLF7nm.jpg)
I am wondering if this is somehow related to the recent rumors of the new "Galaxy Tab S 8.4" tablet from Samsung with a 2560x1600 OLED screen and 3GB of RAM...
More information about the supposed new tablets at http://www.sammobile.com/2014/05/05...ay-exynos-5-octa-fingerprint-sensor-and-more/
that would suck if they came out soo fast.. this tablet not even 6 months old. looks to be the same thing but was a screen that uses less power and finger print reader...
I agree. I paid $369 a couple of weeks ago for what would be a premium tablet. The only thing that really bothers me is if these new models will in fact have 3GB of RAM, while the Tab Pro 8.4 has only 2GB. Personally I don't care about the fingertip reader, and I am very happy with the Tab Pro 8.4 screen.
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I really don't want any tablet with SAMOLED screens. I usually run my tablet full on brightness with still images. Books, flipboards, graphs (Evga precision), RDP and such. Which would cause the screen burn in on SAMOLED. I believe the LCD screens are more durable on that matter. I buy my stuff for what I need, and this 8.4 screen with high density LCD screen is perfect for me
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I really don't want any tablet with SAMOLED screens. I usually run my tablet full on brightness with still images. Books, flipboards, graphs (Evga precision), RDP and such. Which would cause the screen burn in on SAMOLED. I believe the LCD screens are more durable on that matter. I buy my stuff for what I need, and this 8.4 screen with high density LCD screen is perfect for me
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You are correct in the sense that it depends on the main usage.
I had a Galaxy S3, was my first OLED device (pentile). I considered the screen OK, but not the best. It had the issue of "spots" that could be seen in the dark, but only with a black screen. Nothing that would disturb normal usage. However, I had noticed that I was able to see that the text was not as sharp as other LCD screens at the same resolution/size due to the pentile arrangement.
I replaced the S3 by a Moto X, which also has an OLED screen, at the same size and resolution as the S3. But Moto X OLED display is full RGB (not pentile), and I can easily tell that the Moto X text rendering is much sharper that the S3.
With that said, I am not really a fan of Samsung's OLED because of the pentile subpixel arrangement. I would need to see the 8.4" OLED screen at 2560x1600 resolution to convince myself that an OLED pentile display is better than LCD...
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I agree. I paid $369 a couple of weeks ago for what would be a premium tablet. The only thing that really bothers me is if these new models will in fact have 3GB of RAM, while the Tab Pro 8.4 has only 2GB. Personally I don't care about the fingertip reader, and I am very happy with the Tab Pro 8.4 screen.
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i would only really care about the 1 gb of ram..... but it would be a pretty **** head move to release another tablet so quickly after getting us to buy this pro series
Just hoping that since this is the "pro" tablet we would get in the express lane for the updates and supports
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Just hoping that since this is the "pro" tablet we would get in the express lane for the updates and supports
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Correct. Samsung will need to show some differentiation for the "Pro" line.
However, it is possible that the new "Tab S" line could be positioned as the higher-end tablets, then the "Pro" line would become the mid-range, and this sudden price drop could be this...
For a different theory, consider that the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 is still pretty close to the price of the iPad Mini Retina (I own both), and more than a Kindle Fire HDX 8.9" (I own a Fire, but not HDX.) Yes, the Tab Pro has some advantages - expandable memory primarily - but the iPad is considered premium, the Kindle is cheaper and can play Amazon videos, and the Samsung gets lost in a crowd of tablets including over a half-dozen recent Samsung releases.
Heck, we can't even point to flexibility as a reason to get the Samsung - since it's not rooted and rooting it invalidates the warranty. You can get a Kindle with that same kind of restriction. The iPad and Kindle have more accessories available (I love my Zagg keyboard cover for the iPad - nothing like it for the Sammy) and more help available (my phone and my iPad are trivial to hook to a TV. It took several orders of parts to get that working on the Sammy, and even then it's a kludgy solution requiring a power adapter and five pieces.) In other words, it's a great tablet - maybe equally great on points - but in a different league... which is the better vehicle - a Ducatti motorcycle or a BMW 335?
So I wonder if it's just that sales weren't where they wanted it to be. Take advantage of the initial demand, and then, when that peters out, lower the price to a sustainable point.
It is now 329.99
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Correct. Samsung will need to show some differentiation for the "Pro" line.
However, it is possible that the new "Tab S" line could be positioned as the higher-end tablets, then the "Pro" line would become the mid-range, and this sudden price drop could be this...
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The Pro line is meant to be for business users, hence the preloaded productivity software[Hancom Office/WebEx/Remote PC etc].
Traditionally Amoled displays are more expensive than TFT LCD displays. Not all Amoled displays are pentile. The Tab 7.7 is a Super Amoled Plus tablet (the only Amoled Samsung tablet so far/and many consider best tablet Samsung has produced) and uses a standard RGB sub pixel structure. I am using one and thinking of replacing it with the excellent TabPro 8.4, till news broke of the impending announcement of the Tab S line.
The Tab S line will be thinner and lighter and probably more expensive. Can't wait till 12 June for the announcement and details/price.
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It's now 279.99 at Bestbuy. Got mine on Monday.
Buttercream said:
It's now 279.99 at Bestbuy. Got mine on Monday.
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Their website still shows $329.99.
Buttercream said:
It's now 279.99 at Bestbuy. Got mine on Monday.
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Really? Considering that I paid $369 mine just two months ago, this is a significant price drop. I need to say that I am not happy to have paid a higher price, but on the other hand, US$ 279.99 for the TabPro 8.4 is a bargain for an excellent tablet!
Maybe it's a local sale, but it's $279 at the Best Buy's in the Saint Louis area. I'm kinda ticked, especially since with the change of their price matching policy to 15 days, I'm six days over the limit. I could've saved another $70.
Maybe the website hasn't changed the price yet. It's 279.99 at my local Bestbuy at San Francisco, CA.
I went in originally to get the Tab 4 8.0 for 239.99, but found out that for 40 dollars more, the Tab pro 8.4 is a much better deal.
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AWESOME!! I'll be getting mine tomorrow, I'll post up if the price is same at the BB in Milwaukee.
Ordering online from bestbuy is 329.99+ $50 gift card.
In store you can get it for 279.99
Great deal.
No if you order it online then pick it up store, price gets adjusted to 280 + 50gc mail to you.
Alexpride said:
No if you order it online then pick it up store, price gets adjusted to 280 + 50gc mail to you.
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Really? You sure?
When you order online, don't you have to make the $330 payment? Then you go to the store and pick it up.