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Fire OS 5.3.1.0 was the last version to be rootable,
for all Fires except the 7th gen HD 10.
Do not attempt to downgrade. - 7th Oct 2018
FAQs
Manual Update
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/unbrick-amazon-fire-hd-8-10-t3240034
Download Firmware
7th Gen HD 8
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=202144610
7th Gen HD 10
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=202194760
Currently there is no known root method - 14 July 2017
There is no reliable way to stop updates, without rooting. - 14 July 2017
see https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603 on how to add google framwork/playstore without root. - 14 July 2017

Thank you for starting this.

Buzzing audio noise issue
I've recently bought one of these & it seems pretty good for the money (i.e. £40 on prime day with student discount). I've installed the Google Play Store & downloaded some apps & everything works fine so far. It's mostly being used to listen to music using the Google Music & BBC Radio apps, both of which work fine.
However I've noticed a couple of issues with the audio which are quite annoying. The tablet is connected to my stereo amplifier via a cable (headphone jack to 2 stereo jack). The first problem is when the amp is on but the tablet is off there is a buzzing noise. Secondly, when the tablet is on audio plays perfectly with no buzzing but when whatever is playing has finished (i.e. when no sound is playing) there is silence for some time (maybe 5 or 10 minutes) but then a buzzing noise starts & repeats erratically. However, this noise stops as soon as the tablet screen is switched on. The noise sounds like the tablet isn't earthed correctly but I've used the same cables & connections with my old Nexus 7 tablet without any problem so don't see why this should be any different.
Having spoken with Amazon they suggest a factory reset which I'm holding back from doing as it's taken me some time to set it up & I'd rather not go through it again. However, they did remove the adverts from the lockscreen for free while I was chatting to them which was good.
Anyway, my question is does this sound like a software fault, a hardware fault, or an issue with the cable I'm using. Obviously, if it's a hardware fault I'll have to send it back anyway but it's a pain whatever as I'm quite happy with it otherwise. Also if I send it back does anyone think that the fact I've installed the Google Play Store on it will affect the return.
Sorry for long rambling post but couldn't find anything about this issue anywhere else & appears this is the first question posted in this thread so maybe it's a bit too early to expect anyone to be able to answer from experience yet.
Cheers anyway.

Eagerly awaiting root fix for these!

Blank Home Screen on HD8-7th
I have a Fire HD 8, 7th Gen, running Fire OS 5.4.0.0.
My problem is that my home screen will sometimes go blank. I can swipe down to show the Brightness etc, and I can hit the square on the bottom to see and use any running apps, but the screen that usually shows Home, Books, Video, etc is completely blank. I can swipe down, open settings, and navigate through there with no problems.
I have done a factory reset, and still have the symptoms.
The only things I have done after the reset is install Adobe acrobat from the Amazon Appstore, and install the Google Play Store using these APKs:
edit: I am having a hard time with the forum link autodetect. All of these are on www<DOT>.apkmirror<DOT>com.
apk/google-inc/google-account-manager/google-account-manager-5-1-1743759-release/google-account-manager-5-1-1743759-android-apk-download/
apk/google-inc/google-services-framework/google-services-framework-5-1-1743759-release/google-services-framework-5-1-1743759-android-apk-download/
apk/google-inc/google-play-services/google-play-services-10-2-98-release/google-play-services-10-2-98-230-146496160-android-apk-download/
apk/google-inc/google-play-store/google-play-store-7-4-25-release/google-play-store-7-4-25-l-all-0-pr-145823605-android-apk-download/
Any suggestions? I am willing to try another reset, and try without the Google stuff for a few days, but it seems like lots of people are using this on this tablet without problem.
Thanks,
Ed

EdStokes said:
I have a Fire HD 8, 7th Gen, running Fire OS 5.4.0.0.
My problem is that my home screen will sometimes go blank. I can swipe down to show the Brightness etc, and I can hit the square on the bottom to see and use any running apps, but the screen that usually shows Home, Books, Video, etc is completely blank. I can swipe down, open settings, and navigate through there with no problems.
I have done a factory reset, and still have the symptoms.
The only things I have done after the reset is install Adobe acrobat from the Amazon Appstore, and install the Google Play Store using these APKs:
edit: I am having a hard time with the forum link autodetect. All of these are on www<DOT>.apkmirror<DOT>com.
apk/google-inc/google-account-manager/google-account-manager-5-1-1743759-release/google-account-manager-5-1-1743759-android-apk-download/
apk/google-inc/google-services-framework/google-services-framework-5-1-1743759-release/google-services-framework-5-1-1743759-android-apk-download/
apk/google-inc/google-play-services/google-play-services-10-2-98-release/google-play-services-10-2-98-230-146496160-android-apk-download/
apk/google-inc/google-play-store/google-play-store-7-4-25-release/google-play-store-7-4-25-l-all-0-pr-145823605-android-apk-download/
Any suggestions? I am willing to try another reset, and try without the Google stuff for a few days, but it seems like lots of people are using this on this tablet without problem.
Thanks,
Ed
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Since this thread is pretty quiet & doesn't seem to have any responses I can only offer my own experience which is that I've installed Google Play Store following this thread:
how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603 & haven't experienced this issue. I'm not sure about the source of your apks but if you're getting them from elsewhere maybe try the links in the thread I've given to see if that makes any difference?
You could get the tablet replaced as a factory reset is the standard test Amazon suggest before offering a replacement so if that hasn't worked then it is likely an issue with the tablet itself. If you do chat to Amazon about it is worth mentioning the ads on the lockscreen (if you have them) as you can get them removed for free fairly easily (basically by just mentioning them).

sd_shadow said:
FAQs
Currently there is no known root method - 14 July 2017
There is no reliable way to stop updates, without rooting. - 14 July 2017
see https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603 on how to add google framwork/playstore without root. - 14 July 2017
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Thanks for the helpful post. Are you aware of a dedicated thread (or other place) where dev-minded individuals working with the hd fire 7th gen may frolic in efforts to root/unlock bootloader? At least a list of known potential exploits etc? I had no trouble finding such resources for my Note 4. I don't expect to have time to really dig in - but I might contribute in small ways.
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EdStokes said:
Any suggestions? I am willing to try another reset, and try without the Google stuff for a few days, but it seems like lots of people are using this on this tablet without problem.
Thanks,
Ed
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A couple thoughts-
-the steps must be followed in order on that post or things night get wonky.
-are you using the stock launcher or something else? I had similar issues with launcherpro. Did you start to follow the instructions on how to change your launcher perhaps?
-I had better luck when installing the apks from my device instead of sideloading. I have some ideas as to why, but that doesn't matter in this post.
-Do you have a particular setting that is synchronizing after you log in? You night try turning off app sync and backup and then clearing the data/cache for the launcher app.
Perhaps the easiest solution is to change your launcher app to something nicer. I've been using Nova (pretty standard launcher replacement) and it works great.

Blank Home Screen - resolution
Thank you all for your advice.
Here is what worked for me:
I uninstalled the Google Play store from my home screen, then reinstalled all four apks from my SD Card. I don't know why this worked, because I thought I did that before. Maybe I installed directly from the APK website, I don't know, but I have not seen the blank home screen I described above since.
By this time, I had already talked to Amazon, and their policy seemed to be "Blank screen after system restore? Ship him a replacement." So now I am returning a probably perfect HD8 to Amazon. <shrug>
Thanks, again, and I am looking forward to when you geniuses figure out how to root the HD8.
Ed

Hey I just ordered my HD 8 2017 and I'm worried I won't be able to stream to my chromecast. I use plex and netflix and something else I should maybe not mention, but I just wanted to make sure I could use this stuff because it's like 50% of what I plan on using it for.

staythepath said:
Hey I just ordered my HD 8 2017 and I'm worried I won't be able to stream to my chromecast. I use plex and netflix and something else I should maybe not mention, but I just wanted to make sure I could use this stuff because it's like 50% of what I plan on using it for.
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I haven't tried using mine to stream to other devices, but after installing the Google App Store (see other posts above), I've watched Netflix and have watched content streamed from my home PC using Plex. No issues so far.

Hey guys, anyone is having issues with the YouTube app crashing while viewing the subscriptions tab or having heavy lag? I can't even view that tab without the app force closing itself.

Hi! I'm running Fire OS 5.4 and I've installed the Google Play, Google Framework, Google Home, etc...
but I can't seem to get Netflix to display the Chromecast button, also Plex has the icon, but it's unable to cast to the device.
I like the tablet, don't mind the adds, won't even root it if there is a fix for the Chromecast issue. C'mon Amazon, it's an Android, stop restricting my life...
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staythepath said:
Hey I just ordered my HD 8 2017 and I'm worried I won't be able to stream to my chromecast. I use plex and netflix and something else I should maybe not mention, but I just wanted to make sure I could use this stuff because it's like 50% of what I plan on using it for.
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I'm having an issue with Plex casting to the Chromecast, it shows up within the app, but isn't able to cast to device.
Netflix, I don't see the icon anywhere, not even when you start the play the video.
Hoping there's a fix that doesn't require a root, but I like you would really like to use this feature.

I took my 5.4.0.1 device back to the store and exchanged for one with 5.4.0.0 and used the debloater tool to remove/hide OTA updates, should I block anything other than com.amazon.device.software.ota and com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota?
The ads don't hurt me so I left that but installed the Nova Launcher and Google Services, should I avoid registering with Amazon because of this? Will registering the device with Amazon cause any problems after installing those and blocking updates?

Didn't realize it, but I bought (again) moon reader pro and calibre companion on amazon appstore. I didn't know that they used their monopoly to block installation of alternative book apps from their own store.
Good thing for the sideload though. I didn't think I'd need it but Amazon forced me.

Just purchased a n Amazon Fire Tablet HD 8 7 gen after my Google Nexus 7 touch screen stopped responding, would like to get info off that device but that's another story. The Fire Tablet working fine but I feel restricted with the ads and apps. I would like to make this tablet open some like the nexus 7. What's the best way to make that happen on this devis.

gogo1555 said:
Just purchased a n Amazon Fire Tablet HD 8 7 gen after my Google Nexus 7 touch screen stopped responding, would like to get info off that device but that's another story. The Fire Tablet working fine but I feel restricted with the ads and apps. I would like to make this tablet open some like the nexus 7. What's the best way to make that happen on this devis.
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you can install a different launcher
see
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/using-nova-launcher-to-replace-fire-t3511831
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Depending on the fire os version, you can disable several apps, stop auto updates, install play store, change launcher and disable lockscreen adds. Just do a search un the amazon fire forum.
This is the thread.. https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/amazon-fire-utility-tool-bloat-removal-t3641151
Also are included any launcher tool ans you can choose your favorite launcher..

gogo1555 said:
Just purchased a n Amazon Fire Tablet HD 8 7 gen after my Google Nexus 7 touch screen stopped responding, would like to get info off that device but that's another story. The Fire Tablet working fine but I feel restricted with the ads and apps. I would like to make this tablet open some like the nexus 7. What's the best way to make that happen on this devis.
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Thank you, but I saw a thread that was similar to my issue and I called Amazon told them I want to send the tablet back and get a tablet with no Special Offers. They cancelled the Special Offer free of charge. That's customer service!

Did you ever have any issues after doing what you mentioned? I already had one tablet auto-update and really want to make sure the second is safe.
GreenElephants said:
I took my 5.4.0.1 device back to the store and exchanged for one with 5.4.0.0 and used the debloater tool to remove/hide OTA updates, should I block anything other than com.amazon.device.software.ota and com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota?
The ads don't hurt me so I left that but installed the Nova Launcher and Google Services, should I avoid registering with Amazon because of this? Will registering the device with Amazon cause any problems after installing those and blocking updates?
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Related

About to buy a Kindle Fire today at lunch.

Hey guys,
I am about to buy a KF here today on my lunch break. I had a few questions though. I see all the steps and downloaded all the tools needed to Root, one thing I wondered though is if you do root and install a custom rom (Which ones the best one to get?) can you still utilize the Amazon Prime and other amazon features that you get when you purchase it?
Which Rom would be the best choice? Something light weight but customizable of course. With full Android market.
Also, I have an evo 3d, and of course it uses my google account to know which apps I bought and such, will all that + my google wallet work for the Kindle also?
Thanks all!
Do It
Buy it, use your free month of amazon prime for about 4 days until you realize that its streaming is more useless than netflix and that the bookshelf launcher thing is more annoying than using Microsoft BOB on a 386DX. Even the amazon reader PDF viewer is total garbage
1. Copy CM7 and Gapps to the kindle in disk mode
2. Root using the Kindle Fire Utility (the only problems you may face are getting the right drivers on your PC), this will burritoroot it, install the firefirefire bootloader and install the TWRP touchscreen recovery
3. When you get to the bootloader, backup first, then flash CM7+Gapps. Login with your account that is tied to your Evo3D. Multiple device win.
4. Without hardware buttons, CM7 has tablet tweaks under CMsettings. Check the box for home button as it isn't there by default. If you are right handed, change from the default to right-side, this will now put the home button in the middle in portrait mode.
5. Set up google voice so you can send/recieve text messages on your awesome tablet (it is way more than a kindle now). GrooveIP for calls if you use a headset with mic built in. Gmail app for push gmail.
6. Install the amazon kindle app for your books/syncing and then adobe pdf viewer
7. Install Google Currents and Pulse if you read the news a lot. Especially if you want to read the news anywhere you won't have a wifi connection, like on an airplane. They both prefetch.
8. Dolphin browser is so much more awesome than silk.
9. Enjoy your $200 nerdgasm in other ways you see fit...
In short, as far as I know there isn't any CURRENT way to use a custom ROM and use amazon's software aside from the SILK browser which is garbage compared to the opera equivalent (Opera Mini) which in turn is JUST as useless because you're using WiFi and not 3/4G... So save yourself the headache and get a full featured browser (I'm personally happiest with regular Opera, but there is of course Firefox, Dolphin, etc)
Just bought mine and rooted last night. I tried cm7 but didn't like how small the apps looked so i quickly flashed ics rom and it's pretty cool so far. The only thing is no sound and no video, but that's not a big deal for me. I noticed too it's not to responsive, didn't really play with it before i rooted, so not sure if it's rom related or just the way it is
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If you use a launcher such s Go Launcher you would of been able to change your grid size. Thus making your icons bigger. I will share a screenshot in a bit.
sladehawke said:
Buy it, use your free month of amazon prime for about 4 days until you realize that its streaming is more useless than netflix and that the bookshelf launcher thing is more annoying than using Microsoft BOB on a 386DX. Even the amazon reader PDF viewer is total garbage
1. Copy CM7 and Gapps to the kindle in disk mode
2. Root using the Kindle Fire Utility (the only problems you may face are getting the right drivers on your PC), this will burritoroot it, install the firefirefire bootloader and install the TWRP touchscreen recovery
3. When you get to the bootloader, backup first, then flash CM7+Gapps. Login with your account that is tied to your Evo3D. Multiple device win.
4. Without hardware buttons, CM7 has tablet tweaks under CMsettings. Check the box for home button as it isn't there by default. If you are right handed, change from the default to right-side, this will now put the home button in the middle in portrait mode.
5. Set up google voice so you can send/recieve text messages on your awesome tablet (it is way more than a kindle now). GrooveIP for calls if you use a headset with mic built in. Gmail app for push gmail.
6. Install the amazon kindle app for your books/syncing and then adobe pdf viewer
7. Install Google Currents and Pulse if you read the news a lot. Especially if you want to read the news anywhere you won't have a wifi connection, like on an airplane. They both prefetch.
8. Dolphin browser is so much more awesome than silk.
9. Enjoy your $200 nerdgasm in other ways you see fit...
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All good some extras... 7. Also consider buzz box for news.
Also pair it with a phone, use wifi tether and you have net anywhere. Also you can use GPS tether and use google maps for navigation
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Well, I have a question regarding the software uses. Say I buy the Kindle Fire.. will I be able to borrow books from the Kindle store if I were on a custom ROM or do I have to be on their stock ROM in order to borrow any books and use that feature/advantage.
to borrow books you have to be on the stock rom - so far as i know - i don't borrow books - the same for premium vod
Or to play it safe, you can use the STOCK rom with a custom launcher like the GO Launcher (shown above by a member).
You can still customize it with a stock rom, which I do it, cuz CM7 is not all that great on Kindle Fire yet (at least from my experiences).
Kindle Fire is great. It's fast, responsive, but the amazon apps aren't all THAT great. Best of all, you can switch between your Kindle and custom launcher at any time instantly.
How do you set up Google voice so you can send/receive texts? I just use Google voice for getting my vmails I don't use it for anything else.
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Takenover83 said:
If you use a launcher such s Go Launcher you would of been able to change your grid size. Thus making your icons bigger. I will share a screenshot in a bit.
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Thanks! Took your advice and went back to cm7. Its definitely better this time around. Ics is nice, but too many bugs. Plus a lot of apps dont support ics yet. Much more responsive too compared to ics.
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Nova Widgets Still Possible (without ADB)?

Platform: Fire HD 8 (6th edition)
OS: 5.4.0.1
Willing to rollback?: Yes (it has broken some email functionality)
Launcher: Nova paid
I have activity launcher installed, as well as launcherhijack v3.
I have set the home screen button in accessibility, and have Nova enabled as the home. I have Nova enabled as the launcher, but have not deleted the fire launcher, as I would prefer not to.
The issue I'm having is that I can't seem to use widgets. I have read up on adb use for the fire, but Windows doesn't want to play nicely, and I don't currently have a linux machine available (yes, I could VM one, or setup a bootable USB, but I'm looking for a solution that would work with what I have currently in place).
Issue: Any time I go to place a widget on a Nova launcher screen, it brings up the list per normal, but when I go to place the widget, I get bounced back to the Kindle settings UI, and am unable to sort out a workaround.
Any suggestions would be appreciated, particularly if they don't require ADB, as so far Windows does not want to allow me to update the ADB drivers (it shows them as current stock drivers and functioning, as well as stating that the ones from google are a no-go).
Sadly, pushed the update when I did not expect it, so all of this was done after update rolled out. Play store was isntalled prior, and settings are for allowing debugging and developer settings, so at least I got the play store on prior to the update (which apparently some people are having issues with). For me, the store is working well, as is sideloading, which is why I'm thinking there must be a reliable solution to get widgets functioning in Nova without needing to ADB command it on.
Thank you,
--bb
No, you definitely need a working adb, it's your gate to all Fire HD hacks and improvements. If you can't - stay with Amazon bits and don't ask questions like this here.
Thanks to @DragonFire1024, we have a pretty nice hack to enable widgets on any launcher; it's very easy to apply and use. But PLEASE don't complain about prerequisites, if you can't get adb working on Windows, it's better to stay off all hacks and actually this site. Just enjoy your Amazon Fire HD (it's pretty cool even with OEM software installed).
Agreed! There is no need to be rude to those who are just learning. I appreciate those like Dragon who gives help to others without making them feel like idiots. With the help of this forum, I have gotten everything but gmail working! And that weird go to black screen and back to lock screen when I swipe application off the screen. An sure it will get fixed.
The widget script might work in a terminal emulator. Jack Pals on the play store is by far the best. Just search for terminal emulator for Android, place the script in the internal storage and try running it in the emulator. I honestly don't know if that will work though as all the hacks I do are usually with ADB.
DragonFire1024 said:
The widget script might work in a terminal emulator. Jack Pals on the play store is by far the best. Just search for terminal emulator for Android, place the script in the internal storage and try running it in the emulator. I honestly don't know if that will work though as all the hacks I do are usually with ADB.
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Thank you! I will give that a try.
Let's try to keep the comments directly related to Q&A for this device.
Getting snarky with other users and starting a back and forth argument is off-topic, and usually rude (both violations of the rules).
So, please; keep the Off-topic back and forth off the thread. If you are offended by, or feel another user's comment violates the rules, simply REPORT the comment and do not engage the other user further. No need to add MORE clutter.
Thanks for your cooperation.
sensboston said:
No, you definitely need a working adb, it's your gate to all Fire HD hacks and improvements. If you can't - stay with Amazon bits and don't ask questions like this here.
Thanks to @DragonFire1024, we have a pretty nice hack to enable widgets on any launcher; it's very easy to apply and use. But PLEASE don't complain about prerequisites, if you can't get adb working on Windows, it's better to stay off all hacks and actually this site. Just enjoy your Amazon Fire HD (it's pretty cool even with OEM software installed).
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Can you please explain to me how I can update the ADB? I'm not familiar with how to do this at all.
https://www.xda-developers.com/install-adb-windows-macos-linux/
Yeah, but...
bladebarrier said:
https://www.xda-developers.com/install-adb-windows-macos-linux/
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This is where I started, but I have been unable to find a way to find anything mentioning ADB (much less enable it) on our Fire HD 8 (7th Generation).
I have been looking through multiple guides for the past 20 minutes, but the newest firmware seems to have hidden or disabled the ability on the actual device. I am logged into the tablet on the main account, but even under "Device Administrators" it says "No available device administrators".
Did Amazon manage to lock these down to be nothing but a pimp for Amazon (as was their intended goal)?
Edit: Fire OS 5.6.1.0
Did Amazon manage to lock these down to be nothing but a pimp for Amazon (as was their intended goal)?
Yes, they did. It's the razor and blades business model. Such as one item is sold at a low price (or given away for free) in order to increase sales of a complementary goods.
When you go into the Setting then into Device Options, is Developer Options at the bottom of the list? If it isn't I think you need to tap the Serial Number 7 times, then it should appear and that is where you can enable ADB.
The dedication of the members of the xda forums are the only reason why a lot of devices such as these manage to reach their potential. I'm pretty new here (joined in February) but I never seen any member give up on a device. What most see as frustration, including myself, a lot of the members here not only see a challenge but an opportunity.
caldersm44 said:
Agreed! There is no need to be rude to those who are just learning. I appreciate those like Dragon who gives help to others without making them feel like idiots. With the help of this forum, I have gotten everything but gmail working! And that weird go to black screen and back to lock screen when I swipe application off the screen. An sure it will get fixed.
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For now without a rooted device the kick to the lock screen cannot be fixed. That is an unfortunate event which is a result of disabling fire launcher without root. Gmail is give or take. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. If I really had to take a guess I would say Google and Amazon are fighting between each other to get Gmail to work or stop working. It seems when enough users complain Gmail stops working within a few minutes it works again in a couple days later Amazon stops it. I would go back to an old version of Gmail, take your pick and keep trying different versions from there. If he older versions don't work that I'm at a loss at the moment. I do not currently use Gmail on my Amazon tablets. Only because I get too much mail lol. however with that having been said I have never had a problem with Gmail on any of my Amazon tablets with or without root.
dondraper23 said:
Did Amazon manage to lock these down to be nothing but a pimp for Amazon (as was their intended goal)?
Yes, they did. It's the razor and blades business model. Such as one item is sold at a low price (or given away for free) in order to increase sales of a complementary goods.
When you go into the Setting then into Device Options, is Developer Options at the bottom of the list? If it isn't I think you need to tap the Serial Number 7 times, then it should appear and that is where you can enable ADB.
The dedication of the members of the xda forums are the only reason why a lot of devices such as these manage to reach their potential. I'm pretty new here (joined in February) but I never seen any member give up on a device. What most see as frustration, including myself, a lot of the members here not only see a challenge but an opportunity.
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Thanks for the reminder of how to enable Developer Options - it has been a while since I had to do that. ADB is now enabled!
Thanks to everyone in the xda-developers community!
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Thanks for the reminder of how to enable Developer Options - it has been a while since I had to do that. ADB is now enabled!
Thanks to everyone in the xda-developers community!
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Glad you got it enabled! It's one of those steps that is easy to forget
Why are you saying that he should get off the site. Thats rude

Post 5.6.2.0 Update: New Super Annoying Background System Process Causing Major Lag

Hello Fire Folk,
I decided to go ahead take the plunge and let my 2017 Fire HD tablets do their thing and update to 5.6.2.0. Well, the too-good-to-be-true advertising lulled me in anyway ("Show Mode!? You mean I can finally use my Fire Tablet for multi-room audio? And I can stop calling half the Alexa devices in the house "Alexa" while I call the others "Computer" and we can all live as one big happy, desegregated family?! And I can play Spotify on any of the devices and make drop in calls until my heart's content!??" Well, we're not quite there yet...
Anyway, the purpose of my post... Is anyone else noticing the annoying "Ghost" notifications (where it's just a blank white bar at the top, popping up regularly, but if you tap on it/long-touch it enough it eventually reveals its true self) appearing more frequently now? I have three HD 8s and one HD 10 and the background app is running rampant on all of them, resulting in super-frustrating and function-impairing crumminess. Fortunately, the 10 has root and on that tablet I can put this resource-gobbling ghost in its place. However, I'm at a loss on the Fire 8s. In the past I've tried various "no root" app freezing applications but I've never really found one that truly is capable of doing what it claims to be able to accomplish. Does anyone have any tips? I know for a while we could run that one script and make magic happen but can no longer use that trick. :-/
The background ghost app is "Tachyon Calling App" and I gather it's part of the messaging system that is supposed to make the Fire, post 5.6.2.0 update, more "Show"-like. But it runs wiiiild. I'll grabbed a few screenshots which tell a little more about this background pest and will include them below. If you've upgraded to the latest OS and haven't noticed this yet, I hope you never do, but I'd be surprised should you not soon become well-acquainted.
Oh also, my tablets all have Play Store et al. installed and I'm using Action Launcher, if that might have any impact on why I'm experiencing this conflict.
Thanks all! I've been lurking in the Fire section for a long time now and decided to finally make a profile, interact, etc. I am very appreciative to many people here for sharing the awesome findings/discoveries/techniques you've brought forward. I am still holding out hope - some day - even if it's 2046 and these tablets are beyond obsolete/somehow still manage to exist in physical form somewhere in the world, that we will get root access on HD 8! ??????
Screenshots w. additional details:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/album.php?albumid=15035
Having this same problem on a Fire 8 that's got the Play Store loaded. Also my model doesn't even have a sim card, does yours?
This is a new one. Never heard of or seen this app in any Amazon tablet I own (and I own several from the Fire 7 all the way to 10). Just from doing a general search, it appears it belongs to tachyon Mobility. At least that's the most likely culprit. For whatever reason it's on a device I have no idea unless you own a Samsung phone or tablet. I've seen other Samsung apps and Hardware configurations on Motorola devices but never on an Amazon device. If you don't mind uploading a copy of the APK, I can decompile it and take a look inside and see what it actually does or at least try. For now disable it by changing the file name to: appname.apk_ because some system apps like that may become useful in the future. By the way if you are rooted on the HD 10 Google 'rooted activity launcher'. Download the APK from the GitHub source. You can use that activity launcher to launch almost every system app that has a user interface. If this application does you can launch it with rooted activity launcher and see what it does.

Please help me get back to 6.2.7.1

Basically the short version of this topic is 1 way or another I need to find a way to get all my FTV 4K sticks back to 6.2.7.1 as the latest 6.2.7.3 has a firmware update that is glitchy on UK OTA TV. I appreciate it has fixed most issues for most of the world but for the UK it has ruined live TV.
The long version is I have 7 FTV 4K sticks around the home which are linked to my HDHomerun tuner via an app called channels which streams Freeview to each tv perfectly, at least it did until the latest 6.2.7.3 update where the firmware has made watching live HD TV unwatchable, it glitches continuously on some streams.
So ideally I need to get the firmware on all these sticks back to 6.2.7.1 (earlier also works but 6.2.7.1 was the latest version which had everything working perfectly) it is not essential but If I am going to all the trouble of flashing out dated firmware and stopping future updates and such I am guessing I may as well also install a custom launcher, I was never a fan of the Amazon launcher with all the adverts, despite paying for prime I never really use the TV service as I tend to use my own media through Plex, I just lived with Amazon’s launcher because the devices are cheap and it worked perfectly for my family to do everything from a single device.
What is my best way forwards to resolving this issue and getting my FTV running older firmware and a custom launcher? Do I need to root the device? I am not overly worried about warranties as most of the sticks are a bit of age now and despite not wanting to throw money away I am not too worried if I need to buy another stick on Prime day at £25. I feel they are very cost effective when you look at the 7 I have were about the same cost as a single Nvidia Shield at for my needs to the same job…. At least they did until a couple of weeks ago.
Any help and advice anyone can offer would be much appreciated. Thanks very much
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Basically the short version of this topic is 1 way or another I need to find a way to get all my FTV 4K sticks back to 6.2.7.1 as the latest 6.2.7.3 has a firmware update that is glitchy on UK OTA TV. I appreciate it has fixed most issues for most of the world but for the UK it has ruined live TV.
The long version is I have 7 FTV 4K sticks around the home which are linked to my HDHomerun tuner via an app called channels which streams Freeview to each tv perfectly, at least it did until the latest 6.2.7.3 update where the firmware has made watching live HD TV unwatchable, it glitches continuously on some streams.
So ideally I need to get the firmware on all these sticks back to 6.2.7.1 (earlier also works but 6.2.7.1 was the latest version which had everything working perfectly) it is not essential but If I am going to all the trouble of flashing out dated firmware and stopping future updates and such I am guessing I may as well also install a custom launcher, I was never a fan of the Amazon launcher with all the adverts, despite paying for prime I never really use the TV service as I tend to use my own media through Plex, I just lived with Amazon’s launcher because the devices are cheap and it worked perfectly for my family to do everything from a single device.
What is my best way forwards to resolving this issue and getting my FTV running older firmware and a custom launcher? Do I need to root the device? I am not overly worried about warranties as most of the sticks are a bit of age now and despite not wanting to throw money away I am not too worried if I need to buy another stick on Prime day at £25. I feel they are very cost effective when you look at the 7 I have were about the same cost as a single Nvidia Shield at for my needs to the same job…. At least they did until a couple of weeks ago.
Any help and advice anyone can offer would be much appreciated. Thanks very much
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You won't be able to downgrade without unlocking it first. At least i'm not aware of another solution which doesn't require the unlock.
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You won't be able to downgrade without unlocking it first. At least i'm not aware of another solution which doesn't require the unlock.
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Thank you, I sort of thought as much, would this be a good place to start on 1 of the sticks? https://forum.xda-developers.com/fi...ewbie-guide-how-to-unlock-bootloader-t4015273 I am guessing it’s a case of unlocking, then go from there.
Sorry if I don’t sound very informed I have tried reading the guides but getting a little confused, its been a long time since I have done anything like this as I haven’t felt the need on my phones or anything for years.
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Thank you, I sort of thought as much, would this be a good place to start on 1 of the sticks? https://forum.xda-developers.com/fi...ewbie-guide-how-to-unlock-bootloader-t4015273 I am guessing it’s a case of unlocking, then go from there.
Sorry if I don’t sound very informed I have tried reading the guides but getting a little confused, its been a long time since I have done anything like this as I haven’t felt the need on my phones or anything for years.
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Yes, you could start from that thread, but basically you only need to follow the unlock procedure and then use TWRP to install a full 6.2.7.1 firmware (i think you can find it here on xda).
So there's no need to root if you only want to downgrade.
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Yes, you could start from that thread, but basically you only need to follow the unlock procedure and then use TWRP to install a full 6.2.7.1 firmware (i think you can find it here on xda).
So there's no need to root if you only want to downgrade.
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Yeah I will need to have a play with 1 of my sticks and familiarise myself with the unlock and install TWRP procedure. Not managed to find an untouched stock 6.2.7.1 on here but I can certainly find a pre-rooted firmware which I may as well use as it'll no doubt benefit me if I want to run a custom launcher / hide the amazon launcher in the future.
I'll need to do a bit of research but hopefully ideally I can build up 1 stick exactly how I like it when just backup that image, unlock the rest of the sticks in the house and chuck the image across so it shouldn't be too much work, possibly that a bit of wishful thinking though!
dougie175 said:
Yeah I will need to have a play with 1 of my sticks and familiarise myself with the unlock and install TWRP procedure. Not managed to find an untouched stock 6.2.7.1 on here but I can certainly find a pre-rooted firmware which I may as well use as it'll no doubt benefit me if I want to run a custom launcher / hide the amazon launcher in the future.
I'll need to do a bit of research but hopefully ideally I can build up 1 stick exactly how I like it when just backup that image, unlock the rest of the sticks in the house and chuck the image across so it shouldn't be too much work, possibly that a bit of wishful thinking though!
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A great guide is: https://flakie.co.uk/firestick-4k/
(Note: I didn't opt to delete the Amazon Launcher)
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A great guide is: https://flakie.co.uk/firestick-4k/
(Note: I didn't opt to delete the Amazon Launcher)
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That is a fantastic link / guide I can't thank you enough. Everyone loves a video guide! I'll watch the videos properly and follow them to the letter but it looks very achievable now.
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A great guide is: https://flakie.co.uk/firestick-4k/
(Note: I didn't opt to delete the Amazon Launcher)
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That link makes things very simply, I followed step 1 and step 2 to the letter and it worked perfect getting root on 6.2.7.3
I then found a pre rooted 6.2.7.1 (the goal of doing all this) followed the same process but also installed the 6.2.7.1 zip file. Everything went to plan I'm now back on 6.2.7.1 with a stock rooted stick so my TV now works correctly again!
I will follow step 3 soon and run with a custom launcher and get rid of the Amazon launcher all together I think
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A great guide is: https://flakie.co.uk/firestick-4k/
(Note: I didn't opt to delete the Amazon Launcher)
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Just out of interest what happens with you click "Check for updates" in the about screen after following the guide and disabling OTA updates? I assume nothing and it will throw an error or something.
I just wanted to make sure if my children were getting a bit inquisitive or something that it wouldn’t force and update and undo all of my hard work!
Thanks
6.2.7.1 is also my favorite i also went back.
So how to you prevent the firestick from just updating itself again?
Download an apk called disable services . it lets you select ota updates , and block it .
Sorry Amazon , you can't control
my box .

install google play store on 2019 fire hd 10

apologies if this is in the wrong section, I wasn't sure where to post this.
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I just ordered an amazon fire hd 10(2019 version) and there's a couple apps I want on it that are not normally available, such as youtube, and microsoft edge(hate google chrome, have even less love for firefox), with edge wanted for the simple reason of it having a built in adblocker.
I've been running into differing and sometimes even outright contradictory sets of installation instructions, and wish to have the RIGHT set of instructions in front of me before I actually have the device and start monkeying about with it.
I've no desire to brick it by being a moronic dodo...hence me seeking out the experts here.
Use this tool: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/windows-tool-fire-toolbox-v15-0.3889604/post-78664542

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