possible spyware/malware - ZTE Axon 7 Mini Questions & Answers

hi guys ive installed malware bytes and its picking up some malware ?
this is from a factory reset too can anyone else run the same and see what happens plz

Hi there,
I have read on a variety of reviews (such as Amazon) with people stating they have malware on their Axon 7 mini from brand new. A lot of people have returned the phone because of the malware, I suggest you do the same (if there is some malware found) as the phone has 2 year warranty.
I didn't actually take the initiative of running malware when I first got the phone (back in January) so now I installed it and ran it, its showing me 1 malware issue and I have contacted the company who I purchased the phone from to ask for assistance.

virusjammer said:
Hi there,
I have read on a variety of reviews (such as Amazon) with people stating they have malware on their Axon 7 mini from brand new. A lot of people have returned the phone because of the malware, I suggest you do the same (if there is some malware found) as the phone has 2 year warranty.
I didn't actually take the initiative of running malware when I first got the phone (back in January) so now I installed it and ran it, its showing me 1 malware issue and I have contacted the company who I purchased the phone from to ask for assistance.
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thanks m8 yeah thats the very same screen i got.
carphone warehouse are terrible for returns beside ive had a few months now

The problem with malware bytes is that it can read some of the programs used by android such as the radio interface systems (the way your phone talks to the network) as malware as these programs do not get digitally signed or verified by people like Norton or the like. This would mean they show up as malware. This is not uncommon and I have had the experience of this on nearly all my mobile devices.
It could also show a program as being malware if the program had been sideloaded into android after the original build had been finalized due to its "unsettled" nature within the OS as a whole. I wouldn't worry to much about it. If your worried, simply install a virus protection and firewall app and use it to ensure your systems and information safety.
Hopefully, when the noobs and eejits at ZTE decide to deign us with the Nougat update (fingers, toes, hairs, eyes and the like crossed here), it should clear up the issue for you.

I'm not so sure this is completely innocent. There are plenty of articles out there which shine a light on the practice of manufacturers installing surveillance malware. The first page of Google shows this and mentions ZTE:
http://thehackernews.com/2016/11/hacking-android-smartphone.html
and this
http://thehackernews.com/2017/03/android-malware-apps.html

Catflavor said:
I'm not so sure this is completely innocent. There are plenty of articles out there which shine a light on the practice of manufacturers installing surveillance malware. The first page of Google shows this and mentions ZTE:
http://thehackernews.com/2016/11/hacking-android-smartphone.html
and this
http://thehackernews.com/2017/03/android-malware-apps.html
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ran malwarebytes again on this new 7.1.1 and not found :good:

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[Q] Antivirus or No Antivirus????

I have been getting questions from people on whether they should use some kind of Antivirus software on there Android device. I thought I should just post it out here and let all the experts chime in with an opinion. Personally I haven't used anything since the first day I got my Glacier.
I think it would depend on the person. I flash a new ROM fairly often, wiping my phone before I do it, and don't have many apps. So personally I don't use one. Some people keep the same ROM for months or years, have tons of apps and download a lot of files - music, games, videos, etc. These people probably should use an antivirus. Those are the extremes.
If you don't do any banking, bill paying, or other things involving sensetive information I don't see a need either. My 2 cents.
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Lars2009 said:
I have been getting questions from people on whether they should use some kind of Antivirus software on there Android device. I thought I should just post it out here and let all the experts chime in with an opinion. Personally I haven't used anything since the first day I got my Glacier.
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*unix based systems, such as Linux Computers/Apple & iOS/Androids are very hard to write a true virus for. Since the information is stored in such a way a virus really cannot do anything harmful.
With that being said MalWare does run amuck on these devices. It might be worth looking into solely for that fact. Like LookOut or Avast. But if you never see a warning for viruses don't be surprised.
Same ROM no online banking
I've had the same ROM for a while and don't do any online banking on my Android devices.
I guess it would depend on how much you use the Unknown Sources feature and where you browse.
I don't think there is any browser attack in existence on Android. These programs are mostly used for preventing malware installation, and if you know what you're installing - you shouldn't ever need antivirus. There are no "viruses" per se known so far, AFAIK, only malware.
Thanks
Thanks for everyone's input. I finally installed Avast on mine just to get a feel for it, being that I am flashing new Rom's on it so often, it won't last long.....

[APP] FREE Anti virus

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1453695
Why are you creating 2 topics about it?
Had you tested it? How it compare to theoretically best Zoner Antywirus? Tell us some more, than posting links - this is kind of flooding.
For me, this program won't beat Zoner.. for now.
Anyway, I'll test it
Rayman96 said:
Why are you creating 2 topics about it?
Had you tested it? How it compare to theoretically best Zoner Antywirus? Tell us some more, than posting links - this is kind of flooding.
For me, this program won't beat Zoner.. for now.
Anyway, I'll test it
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sorry if i did hurt you. well i was a beta tester for the app. it did performed well for me, besides comodo is a reputed company after all and they are standing for free softwares.
I posted the links cause it contains all the details of the software, details about the company etc, i thought its better than i explain those details.
about double posting, the one i posted is in the general section is for all to see. The second is for my fellow lgp500 users, where i really belogs. i hope i am clear enough. no harm ment
Best free antivirus is your brain - never install app without good amount of comments about app.
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Best free antivirus is your brain - never install app without good amount of comments about app.
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Who in this world has time to read all that? Have you ever tried to read Google’s conditions and policies while creating a Google account? Certainly the answer would be ‘NO’. Do you know that Google had 60 different policies that helped them to collect data from your personal Gmail and other Google apps? Now do you know that they had merged all these in to one policy?
Google will know more about you than your wife does. Everything across your screens will be integrated and tracked. Google noted that it collects information you provide, data from your usage, device information and location. Unique applications are also noted. Sure you can use Google’s dashboard and ad manager to cut things out, but this policy feels Big Brother-ish. Google is watching you as long as you are logged in. It’s also unclear whether this privacy policy move will be considered bundling in some way by regulators. This unified experience hook appears to be at least partially aimed at juicing Google+. Google responded with clarification: Google noted that it already has all that data, but it’s now integrating that information across products. It’s a change in how Google will use the data not what it collects. In other words, Google already knows more about you than your wife.( not my comment go read this.... http://m.zdnet.com/blog/btl/googles-new-privacy-policy-the-good-bad-scary/67893)
Now my question is whether Google is good or bad? Do you need Droidwall to defend your privacy? Or do you still believe in your Brain(better do not believe in brain but use it to think rationally)?
Conclusion: we need a new definition to “virus”...My contribution is Anything that steals your private data is a virus.( no flames needed, no harm meant...just my thought about the relevancy of protective apps like Droidwall, comodo, avg, etc. ...etc)
,do we realy need anti virus?,
algie17 said:
,do we realy need anti virus?,
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You dont need one
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josinpoul's mean run anti virus before creating Google account
And if too don't have anti virus then don't use Google. Josin your explanation is wrong. Brain and antivirus both useful.
No need for 2 topics about one thing but thanks for sharing!!!
http://ca.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idCATRE81N1T120120224
By Jim Finkle
BOSTON (Reuters) - Cybersecurity experts have uncovered a flaw in a component of the operating system of Google Inc's widely used Android smartphone that they say hackers can exploit to gain control of the devices.
Researchers at startup cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike said they have figured out how to use that bug to launch attacks and take control of some Android devices.
CrowdStrike, which will demonstrate its findings next week at a major computer security conference in San Francisco, said an attacker sends an email or text message that appears to be from a trusted source, like the user's phone carrier. The message urges the recipient to click on a link, which if done infects the device.
At that point, the hacker gains complete control of the phone, enabling him or her to eavesdrop on phone calls and monitor the location of the device, said Dmitri Alperovitch, chief technology officer and co-founder of CrowdStrike.
Google spokesman Jay Nancarrow declined comment on Crowdstrike's claim.
Alperovitch said the firm conducted the research to highlight how mobile devices are increasingly vulnerable to a type of attack widely carried out against PCs. In such instances, hackers find previously unknown vulnerabilities in software, then exploit those flaws with malicious software that is delivered via tainted links or attached documents.
He said smartphone users need to prepare for this type of attack, which typically cannot be identified or thwarted by mobile device security software.
"With modifications and perhaps use of different exploits, this attack will work on every smartphone device and represents the biggest security threat on those devices," said Alperovitch, who was vice president of threat research at McAfee Inc before he co-founded CrowdStrike. Researchers at CrowdStrike were not the first to identify such a threat, though such warnings are less common than reports of malicious applications that make their way to online websites, such as Apple's App Store or the Android Market.
In July 2009, researchers Charlie Miller and Collin Mulliner figured out a way to attack Apple's iPhone by sending malicious code embedded in text messages that was invisible to the phone's user. Apple repaired the bug in the software a few weeks after the pair warned it of the problem.
The method devised by CrowdStrike currently works on devices running Android 2.2, also known as Froyo. That version is installed on about 28 percent of all Android devices, according to a Google survey conducted over two weeks ending February 1.
Alperovitch said he expects to have a second version of the software finished by next week that can attack phones running Android 2.3. That version, widely known as Gingerbread, is installed on another 59 percent of all Android devices, according to Google.
CrowdStrike's method of attack makes use of a previously unpublicized security flaw in a piece of software known as webkit, which is built into the Android operating system's Web browser.
Webkit is also incorporated into other software programs, including Google's Chrome browser and the Apple iOS operating system for the iPhone and iPad.
CrowdStrike said it had not attempted to create software to attack iOS devices or the Chrome browser.
Ok, now a group of hackers control 500000000 devices... an antivirus will slow the phone down more than a hacker trying to run a phone from another continent over your 2G network... just think about it... how can your screen be monitored over 3G in real-time? It can't be done on my 5Mbps PC...
And if you turn data off, then 1GB of data will be sent to google when you turn it on??? Think logic...(where the f**k do you store that??? I think the effect will be noticed right away, and the attacker has no time to take control, unless you are stupid enough to see a 1GB file and not suspect anything...) PCs have real-time protection, but that is because there are terrible threats out there, and they are optimized, they don't slow down... on your phone, you will regret having a phone for 2 years running like **** and then dropping in water, while you could have best performance in those 2 years...
We are not windows, but we are android, and it is the most unsafe mobile OS, if you want a safe one, get from apple... just 2x price at ½ quality...
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well i use avast antivirus
but not for scanning viruses
but rather for anti-theft feature and firewall(blocking apps)
and isnt android a java based OS ??
im sure there are not many virus's
that can cause heavy damage

My first virus!

Ha! Yep I found a virus and both Avast and Norton did not detect it.
The outragious part of it, is that it is a children's game. I am not a gamer, but had been transfering apps from one device to another. Found the game in question had privlages to contacts, email and system info. I blocked it thinking well it may be for developer needs. Since I was getting tired of big name anti virus apps that are too robust for being called an anti virus app. I looked at small and efficient single duty or very close in operation that can properly do the job, google fails miserably at.
Believe it or not I was able to install the app on two other devices that were not rooted and had google app security enabled. So now ya all can see why I disable google internal services as they suck both in battery power and in being capable.
Well anywho... if ya gots childeren below 13, mostlikely their devices or your own have a virus ridden app or two. Good uck if you dont have a proper anti virus app!
what virus?
what does it do?
Donno... just killed it and the game pronto. Game is still on Google Play. Wont advertise the name as many will sendvthe game to their friends and family. Plus I am not paid by google to do their security work. problem is this game is for peeps under 10, so I figure about 20,000,000 kids have it or at least had it on both their tablet or parents phone.
I'm confused. So it wasn't a virus, it was just a game that had permissions to system, and you didn't feel it should?
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Doesn't sound like a virus...just an app with permissions...
HikingMoose said:
I'm confused. So it wasn't a virus, it was just a game that had permissions to system, and you didn't feel it should?
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My anti virus app noticed it had some sort of virus known by them as infectious. Had already been installed by the end user. I did not bother with isolating further. Killed it and made sure the tablet was good to go. Problem is google, Norton and Avast did not detect it. So I gave up ever using them since then on android. I noticed the anti virus I use on windows now makes a good app for android. Low and behold being simple and small foot print, which I had to hand pick from the mess online... It found what was going on with slow down, over heating and other troubles with network speeds. Once removed, i did not need to wipe and reload a new firmware or factory reset.
I tested a few times, soon after removing it, with my tablet and anti virus app used in cleaning, to find Google was still allowing the virus ridden app to be distributed.
Obviously a game made for below 10 year of age does not get much looks at by the Android community. Thinking kiddie gamers are safe. They have no credit info, contacts worth spamming, and are filled with junk pix. Low and behold kiddie gamers are gold for spyware, hackers, and thieves as they are a true Trojan Horse to get into infrastructures on bring you kids day at corporate places, and sniff home systems behind firewalls.
I may sound a bit too out there, but this stuff has always been my fear since 2000. We ignore kids on their devices and allow them to do what they want as far as downloads that don't cost money, or share files between themselves indescriminently.
Virus on Android is near impossible without root due to the way android runs app in sandbox. Less so on the app store. I doubt that it was a true virus, maybe Spyware depending on how your scanner defines it.
Those free children's games are full of ad analytics and collect way too much information. Many of them are spamy but I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a virus.
I am unaware of any virus on Android that has spread via the app store. Either way better safe than sorry with those poorly made junk games.
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Now that I have a new 4.4 build that is more locked down, I will attempt to install the app once more, to verify if it is a Virus or Trojan... the later could then attach like a virus through messaging. Since the new stagefright hack that effects media server can hit 80% of all android devices being used to date. No it may not self replicate, but do the damage without really having to send itself to others. Just send a payload. The new and better way for virus architecture. Will look up if I can remember the game, and post my findings.
HA! They must have found the virus... As of end of March the new update corrected the issue. They did not release any info about the fix, but stated there was a bug fix. Bug is loose term for virus in this case.
Well let's see... the first iteration was about 6 months older than the one I updated with in early March. So who knows how many peeps got it and did not know.
Pretty sad that developers will not tell you what they fix when releasing updates. They blind cover with needed fixes and improvements. Bah! Sux hind tit my friends.
Speaking at the RSA security conference in San Francisco*on Tuesday, Adrian Ludwig, director of Android security, said the*Stagefright hole*– which prompted the Chocolate Factory to start emitting low-level security patches on a monthly basis – did put 95 per cent of Android devices at risk of attack. However, there have been no “confirmed” cases of infections via the bug, Ludwig claimed
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/15/google_stagefright_android_bug_zero_success/
Nothing but hype as I said before no confirmed cases of anyone able to use the Stagefright bug in a attack in the wild.
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jasonf1984 said:
Speaking at the RSA security conference in San Francisco*on Tuesday, Adrian Ludwig, director of Android security, said the*Stagefright hole*– which prompted the Chocolate Factory to start emitting low-level security patches on a monthly basis – did put 95 per cent of Android devices at risk of attack. However, there have been no “confirmed” cases of infections via the bug, Ludwig claimed
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/15/google_stagefright_android_bug_zero_success/
Nothing but hype as I said before no confirmed cases of anyone able to use the Stagefright bug in a attack in the wild.
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I was speaking of the media server bug. Simple code from java script or email to open a media file can break media server, which allows code to be executed at root level. Just clicking on a link opens the back door. There Is a lot of peeps worried about this high level bug within android, and was found of recent. Probably bigger than stagefright and heart bleed combined.
I think that the last release of 4.4.2 with country code of BRI will have a wee more fixes... Only 3 that stands out that need to be applied for kitkat to be bug free.
Unfortunately I am not in Taiwan and rather have UK firmware. Maybe a good dev can make a recovery flash file to allow verification between the fixes I see as pending.
I think you are just overreacting.
an app had broad permissions that likely didn't need. So it was a shady app.
that's not a virus. just lousy practice on the programming side. Don't install it and be done, many many apps like that. But not a virus.
that or your definition of virus is not the usual one (for instance, it did not replicate itself).
profedrini said:
I think you are just overreacting.
an app had broad permissions that likely didn't need. So it was a shady app.
that's not a virus. just lousy practice on the programming side. Don't install it and be done, many many apps like that. But not a virus.
that or your definition of virus is not the usual one (for instance, it did not replicate itself).
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It did have a variant name to the virus when detected. No other anti virus app detected it. Permissions is one thing but this was a virus.
Give me a break! No wonder android peeps are so blind, permissions are permissions and should not be detected as a virus, though if detecting security that is a different thing all together.
I think anti virus apps that have extra features like security checks confuse the bajeebus out of peeps on detection. Don't know the difference between virus and permissions when obviously being told a virus is found, they jump to app permissions.
A virus does not need to replicate to the system to be a virus. Just send a script to launch on another device to have the device infect its self by action. Pretty simple and very effective, especially when the anti virus app does not detect the media script crashing media server and starting the mess of running root and loading what ever off of some server.

Mi Unlocking Tool - Severe threat Trojan Symmi virus detected

I obtained unlocking permissions for my Redmi Note 3 recently from the official source. So, I downloaded the unlocking tool from there (it's official, I'm a 100% sure).
Now, after the download completed, I made it go through a virus scan by Quick Heal Total Security ver 17.00, fully activated license and latest updated virus database. The results showed a threat detected. It was a Trojan Symmi virus. There are no search results anywhere regarding this problem and I have scanned it multiple times and after multiple downloads from the official source. After a bit of research, I found out that Trojan Symmi is a severely dangerous threat as it opens up a backdoor in the infected system, leaking out personal information and other important details.
After all this, I tried alternate sources including a few threads on this forum, but I ended up with the exact same results. Sadly, I cannot add images/links as being a new user, I'm not permitted to do so. Though, I am really surprised that the official site of Mi would make me download such a dangerous file onto my system. Presently, the file is still in compressed form. I'll extract it only when I receive a concrete and credible response on the matter, hence I need your help. Please clarify whether it is a real threat or an error made by the anti-virus (I doubt that, yet it's still possible).
Waiting for a response.
ihave a old folder with all unlock data. You can scan this if you want to check older files would be interresting.
Zip File on Google Drive: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1nsMBiMJbuol7Y6iuYAmmnGhAVkZpik3r
Having MIUI on your phone is a severe threat in my opinion.
There'll be a day where you won't have enough money to buy premium antivirus.
Your financial info is leaked, bank accounts are hacked that'll put your family in an awkward position.
Your Girlfriend will leave you.
Your Best friends will leave you & switch to Oneplus or Pixel devices cuz they hate '****UI, as well as you '
All your data will be redirected to Chinese servers.
So it's your choice, do you want the future to be that way?
I've been using Custom ROMs for 1.5 years & the device is secure.
The devs for our device here are awesome, unlike the ****UI devs who roll out themes for kids, useless browser updates & Android based on marshmallow wtf??
Like I always say ' ****UI icing on top of Poop doesn't make it a better UI '
Try unofficial method instead. I don't trust xiaomi at all. Never used their tool.
I Trust nobody of these Big Concern.
Google No Apple Defenetly NO but i Like his MacOS and everything else.
Everybody know what Snowden was saying....
I let them do what they want. Then everything is in this world is Information to manipulate people of that they buy what the big one want that we buy.
And i never Talk to any Intelligence like Siri/ Sahra/ Byxbi or what they are named.
VaibhavKumar07 said:
Having MIUI on your phone is a severe threat in my opinion.
There'll be a day where you won't have enough money to buy premium antivirus.
Your financial info is leaked, bank accounts are hacked that'll put your family in an awkward position.
Your Girlfriend will leave you.
Your Best friends will leave you & switch to Oneplus or Pixel devices cuz they hate '****UI, as well as you '
All your data will be redirected to Chinese servers.
So it's your choice, do you want the future to be that way?
I've been using Custom ROMs for 1.5 years & the device is secure.
The devs for our device here are awesome, unlike the ****UI devs who roll out themes for kids, useless browser updates & Android based on marshmallow wtf??
Like I always say ' ****UI icing on top of Poop doesn't make it a better UI '
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I know man!! That's exactly why I'm unlocking my phone, to eventually switch to Lineage OS. MIUI is a poorly performing operating system indeed!!
Alright!! This one's clean. Thanks a lot man!!
shreyansbhardwaj said:
Alright!! This one's clean. Thanks a lot man!!
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What is Clean?
Maximaro said:
What is Clean?
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I mean, the version of the unlocking tool you provided the link for, is virus free and hence I can use it. So, thank you.

Concerns for Security? (no, not the lockscreen video)

Hi,
I am currently testing a few dual-sim phones for use by a few people within my company. We purchased one Note 9, a few S9s and a OnePlun 6T (it's like Christmas early at my work).
First discovery was that "new, factory unlocked dual-sim" on Amazon doesn't always mean that. Since dual/sim phones aren't sold directly by Samsung, we had to buy them on Amazon and at the very least, one of the S9s was not new. It had a specific knox setting for a bank in south america so that did not come from the factory. So not having a trusted source for dual-sim Samsung is not something I like.
I then purchased a 6T directly from OnePlus and this one is clearly straight from the manufacturer. I'm happy with that and with the fast updates, but now that two phone manufacturers are making the news for security reasons, it doesn't make me confident that OnePlus doesn't gather data without users knowing. Huawei and ZTE are being boycotted left and right for security purposes, companies are shifting towards what I think in an illusion of safety by focusing on products made in the US (doesn't mean chips aren't made in China).
So for my own curiosity, are there people out there concerned by the fact that OnePlus phones are made in China and that as of right now, two electronics manufacturers are involved in security concerns?
Everyone is spying on everyone : Rule #1 , destroy one country's economy by hitting it's strongest companies : Rule # 2
Now all depends what kind of security you are looking for. Samsung has made an "enterprise edition" of the Note9. with
Huawei has very slow updates and being in the US (i guess you are based there) forget about it. This for obvious guarantees, etc...
OnePlus is a great company, it had it's issues in the press oneplus-phones-collecting-sensitive-data But i think this was dealt with.
now depends in what business you are in, and how sensitive your information is.
I hate to say this, but Apple does offer good security (apparently) and now you can order dual SIM cards, or even use e-sim + nano SIM.
Now if someone REALLY wants to know things about you, they will find out. Thus the famous "I gOt nOtHinG tO HiDe".
Everyone is logging data they shouldn't and without consent I'm sure OnePlus is still doing it even if you select disagree, Google is the worst offender all of their services log everything best way to avoid is to run AOSP and FOSS apps avoid stock roms and Google services if you value privacy.
Nic2112 said:
Hi,
I am currently testing a few dual-sim phones for use by a few people within my company. We purchased one Note 9, a few S9s and a OnePlun 6T (it's like Christmas early at my work).
First discovery was that "new, factory unlocked dual-sim" on Amazon doesn't always mean that. Since dual/sim phones aren't sold directly by Samsung, we had to buy them on Amazon and at the very least, one of the S9s was not new. It had a specific knox setting for a bank in south america so that did not come from the factory. So not having a trusted source for dual-sim Samsung is not something I like.
I then purchased a 6T directly from OnePlus and this one is clearly straight from the manufacturer. I'm happy with that and with the fast updates, but now that two phone manufacturers are making the news for security reasons, it doesn't make me confident that OnePlus doesn't gather data without users knowing. Huawei and ZTE are being boycotted left and right for security purposes, companies are shifting towards what I think in an illusion of safety by focusing on products made in the US (doesn't mean chips aren't made in China).
So for my own curiosity, are there people out there concerned by the fact that OnePlus phones are made in China and that as of right now, two electronics manufacturers are involved in security concerns?
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Turn off all feedback to OnePlus and the phone does not make any pings to strange servers.
I have my phone rooted and have installed apps that log access to ip addresses. I haven't see anything strange in a month.
I'm not concerned and turned logging off.
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and have installed apps that log access to ip addresses.
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I'm listening...
I don't buy any devices that can't run Lineage. You can remove the logging programs entirely if you are worried about them still reporting back to OnePlus after opting out. I removed a long list of things, and my phone still works. The couple Huawei devices I've had, and actually are still in the house, run Lineage, so not really worried about them either.
I only buy devices that can be unlocked, and with the intent of running Lineage on them, so I don't really care what software comes on them. Heck my OP 5T sat new in the box until Lineage was released, I used my Nexus 5X while I waited.
Thanks for your feedback.
There's a huge push towards not using Huawei network equipment or not doing business with people who do so. I'm not worried about someone knowing too much about what I do with my phone because between Facebook and Google, anyone can buy that information. The security I'm more concerned about is information theft, leaking screenshots like OnePlus supposedly did at one point, text files filled with "key words" like another news story mentioned. We are even reconsidering laptops and putting a huge emphasis on computers not made in China. I'm guessing the political situation with the Huawei CEO isn't helping the situation either.
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The security I'm more concerned about is information theft, leaking screenshots like OnePlus supposedly did at one point, text files filled with "key words" like another news story mentioned.
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You have a OnePlus device? Remove the offending programs if you insist on running OxygenOS? You can secure your own device. Don't like Google collecting information, you can go without Google if you really wanted too. I just see this whole thing as a none issue I guess?
Nic2112 said:
We are even reconsidering laptops and putting a huge emphasis on computers not made in China. I'm guessing the political situation with the Huawei CEO isn't helping the situation either.
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Which leaves you with? What devices aren't made in China or made from components from China? I'm not sure any one device is more secure than another.
Anyone see this story:
Germany Refuses To Ban Huawei, Citing Lack of Real Evidence
This is why open source, and open devices are so important. We need things we can update, and things that can be audited. Some people may argue that makes them vulnerable but I disagree.
OhioYJ said:
Which leaves you with? What devices aren't made in China or made from components from China? I'm not sure any one device is more secure than another.
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That's also something I brought up, you can say Samsung phones don't say "Made in China" but it's highly likely that some components in there are which would have their own security flaws.
OhioYJ said:
You have a OnePlus device? Remove the offending programs if you insist on running OxygenOS? You can secure your own device. Don't like Google collecting information, you can go without Google if you really wanted too. I just see this whole thing as a none issue I guess?
Which leaves you with? What devices aren't made in China or made from components from China? I'm not sure any one device is more secure than another.
Anyone see this story:
Germany Refuses To Ban Huawei, Citing Lack of Real Evidence
This is why open source, and open devices are so important. We need things we can update, and things that can be audited. Some people may argue that makes them vulnerable but I disagree.
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This is exactly why I unlock my BL and root my phone.
Once that is done, I own it and can do what I want.

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