I mean really, there needs to be option to have them on always when the screen is on. As of right now, they simply flash for about half a second after pressing one. I figured the point of them would be so you can easily see the buttons and press them?
The way it is makes them very hard to find in the dark.
Am I missing something?
Agreed makes no sense the way it is
I agree 100%. When I heard they were lit I was happy and thought it'd be like on a Samsung. But these little dots are useless, you can barely see them and the only light up once you have already hit the key, anyway.
I think they are doing everything to improve battery time even if it takes away good features. Same goes for proximity wave to peek at the ambient screen. They removed that with the first update. They should give us the option if we want to waste battery on certain features.
Personally I think the current consumption of the two LED's under those capacitive buttons is so small that might not even be measurable.
So having those two LED's lit while the screen is on could only bring benefits!
Use Keyboard Backlight Controller from Playstore. Works. Perfect. Needs only to be reactived after reboot. It's free and open source.
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Use Keyboard Backlight Controller from Playstore. Works. Perfect. Needs only to be reactived after reboot. It's free and open source.
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Seems to require root - is that correct?
Alan
exis_tenz said:
Use Keyboard Backlight Controller from Playstore. Works. Perfect. Needs only to be reactived after reboot. It's free and open source.
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Wow, thanks a ton.
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Seems to require root - is that correct?
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ArkAngel06 said:
I mean really, there needs to be option to have them on always when the screen is on. As of right now, they simply flash for about half a second after pressing one. I figured the point of them would be so you can easily see the buttons and press them?
The way it is makes them very hard to find in the dark.
Am I missing something?
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Makes as much sense as a widget displaying the current weather. On some devices you can disable them without root. Perhaps they should be used as notifications on devices with no LED.
Haven't thought about that! They could easily be used for some fancy, animated notifications!
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Use Keyboard Backlight Controller from Playstore. Works. Perfect. Needs only to be reactived after reboot. It's free and open source.
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I'm failing to find this app, could you provide me a direct link? I would love to be able to have these lights on all the time.
Thanks!
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I'm failing to find this app, could you provide me a direct link? I would love to be able to have these lights on all the time.
Thanks!
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It's apparently been removed from the App store, maybe by the author.
I have the apk as an attachment on this post. If someone sees this and would like it removed, just let me know.
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Is there a way to create a today plugin to use the camera's flash as a flashlight?
PLEASE READ the F*cking WIKI,
Here you go,
Yes, that is indeed its formal name, the "F*cking WIKI".
My app VJCandela might help (I recommend VJCandela lite).
Also, if you're asking the question, you probably also want to install VJLumos III on your Hermes. It's nice.
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Lately I was making myself familiar with VJCandelaLite (pardon me, merely "Flashlight.exe" that I found somewhere) and ran into strange behavior. Further experiments revealed the following.
I created a shortcut in the Start Menu with intention to always launch VJCandelaLite this way because all hardware keys are already occupied. Now, if the shortcut is activated via the touch screen (finger or stylus), everything is OK. However if I use joystick keys to open the menu, scroll to the shortcut and start it, the flash just flashes briefly -- it's even hard to notice it. That's sad; the touch screen is always worth saving (too delicate for me), hardware keys are way better.
Then I discovered that if the flash has successfully turned on, any keypress turns it off immediately Only afterwards I found vijay555's homepage and things got a bit clearer. The rest is simple logic.
I believe that VJCandelaLite should start checking keys not immediately but after some time -- say, 500 ms. Is there a need for very short flashes anyway?
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PLEASE READ the F*cking WIKI,
Here you go,
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haha i second that.
Windkracht13 said:
PLEASE READ the F*cking WIKI,
Here you go,
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well said lol
I've found that a white image on the front screen illuminates better than using the flash. Just an FYI.
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I created a shortcut in the Start Menu with intention to always launch VJCandelaLite this way because all hardware keys are already occupied. Now, if the shortcut is activated via the touch screen (finger or stylus), everything is OK. However if I use joystick keys to open the menu, scroll to the shortcut and start it, the flash just flashes briefly -- it's even hard to notice it. That's sad; the touch screen is always worth saving (too delicate for me), hardware keys are way better.
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Try holding the middle button in. You'll find it stays on.
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I've found that a white image on the front screen illuminates better than using the flash. Just an FYI.
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Hehe i love sarcasm..
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Try holding the middle button in.
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Excellent! Thank you, it works.
For any devs out there...
Would it or is it possible to develop an app that will keep the backlight on for the keypad ? i.e. On while the screen is on and go off when the screen goes off ?
In the dark its very annoying when using the Hero and having to fumble for the right key to press - Home, Back, Search etc.
i second that
well erm just press any key and the light will go on dude, you dont need an app for this
So you fumble and hit Home or even power off (to sleep) the screen when you only wanted to hit search or back.
Flicking the scroll wheel is the only way to light up the keys and not press the wrong one by mistake, but that tends to highlight a button, link etc... and sometimes if you hit the ball too hard, you select a screen element.
Still a pain and TBH not like any handset I used before. Backlight time out was always linked to screen time out.
You dont need to hit any key, just move the scroll wheel even slightly and lights come up. And it does need decent amount of pressure to press the scroll button, you wont accidentally press it.
er, yer, I know... but I don't want too
lets just say "even if it doesnt make sense to some people, WE want it!"
btw, there is one app "dark keys" that keeps the backlights of the keypads off all the time. this was made for the white G1. maybe it can simply be rewritten to make the reverse happen?
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For any devs out there...
Would it or is it possible to develop an app that will keep the backlight on for the keypad ? i.e. On while the screen is on and go off when the screen goes off ?
In the dark its very annoying when using the Hero and having to fumble for the right key to press - Home, Back, Search etc.
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i'm beeing annoyed by the keys not being lit as well ...
Glad I'm not the only one
Yeah, I want it too. Thanks for bringing this up!
I think it's good idea, btw it looks cool at night. I want it too
Good idea. +1
So which dev is gong to earn a couple of $$, ££, €€ by writing this for each copy sold then ??
From what I can tell of the API docs (http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/PowerManager.html, the SDK only allows for the keyboard backlight to be on in FULL_WAKE_LOCK state, meaning the screen will have to be full brightness.
So I don't think this request can be achieved by a pure SDK app.
How come it lights up at any screen brightness on the Hero ?
Surely its also a hardware call and not just an OS call ? These would be independent of Android and particular to each manufactures handset, else they would all be the same.
Not questioning you, but it would seem strange that its not addressable separately to the screen ???
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How come it lights up at any screen brightness on the Hero ?
Surely its also a hardware call and not just an OS call ? These would be independent of Android and particular to each manufactures handset, else they would all be the same.
Not questioning you, but it would seem strange that its not addressable separately to the screen ???
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I'm by no means an Android SDK expert, just posting what I found in a quick search round the docs. Happy to be proven wrong!
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Of course - wasn't criticising at all
Might be able to dabble in the /sys/class/leds/ folder.
I'll take a look when I get in.
Not a dev though. Lol.
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Might be able to dabble in the /sys/class/leds/ folder.
I'll take a look when I get in.
Not a dev though. Lol.
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Correct.
echoing a value to:
/sys/devices/platform/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0066/leds/button-backlight/brightness
through adb shell turns on the backlight.
I think an SDK app could be created as a service with a broadcast receiver listening for the power state changing that just writes a positive value to the file above.
Loads of similar examples here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=565015
I'll take this on, just about got it working.
Wicked thx
You are stars (especially fullerlee)
Don't make it too expensive though
Is there a way to configure the optical button on the htc incredible so that clicking it wakes the phone up (like pressing the top button)? I'm looking for functionality thats a little bit similar to how the iphone wakes up since I find that button at the bottom much more accessible than the button on the top.
id be interested in this as well. The top button isnt very intuitive to me
Search the market for "lock screen" or "lockscreen" or just "lock" (or maybe "button"? I thought there was a button switcher app too).
Many of the 3rd party lock apps will bring up the lock screen by pressing one or more of the physical buttons (volume, camera, etc). I bet at least one of them comes on with the optical button.
it has been done on the nexus one with the trackball. i think you need root access or at lease custom rom.
Ok, I found this.
http://androidforums.com/htc-incredible/69443-using-optical-trackpad-button-wake-phone.html
Try the "lockbot" app. It is probably about all that is available right now, but the Incredible will be extremely popular. There will be more hacks/tweaks/apps/whatever for this device than any to date, I suspect.
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Ok, I found this.
http://androidforums.com/htc-incredible/69443-using-optical-trackpad-button-wake-phone.html
Try the "lockbot" app. It is probably about all that is available right now, but the Incredible will be extremely popular. There will be more hacks/tweaks/apps/whatever for this device than any to date, I suspect.
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Thanks for the heads up. And I agree I think we are going to see a whole new level of geek with this phone
"myLock" in advance mode.
Great app, and thank you for the info. I was looking the same solution.
Mylock works great. Although I did have one occurence of it locking up the phone.
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"myLock" in advance mode.
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Are you talking about the app called myLock auto unlock? I am not finding an advanced mode or way to get in advanced mode. Care to explain a little more? and this is able to make it so you can use the trackpad to wake/unlock the phone?
NoLock works for this as well but I wish there was a way to allow the optical pad to work without allowing the volume buttons to work at the same time.
Tried myLock just now and both seem like good apps.
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Thanks for the heads up. And I agree I think we are going to see a whole new level of geek with this phone
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just wondering why you sport the "Big Black" avatar?
And to those who think im being racist by calling him "Big Black", its his name on the Reality TV show with rob dyrdeck.
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Good idea.......
would be a very nice mod.
+1 on this, much needed maybe there could be a setting to say what the lock buton does, either locks the screen, or takes picture...
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+1 on this, much needed maybe there could be a setting to say what the lock buton does, either locks the screen, or takes picture...
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i was thinking the same thing since the first time i picked up the phone i thought the lock button would be on top and that the actual lock button was the camera button haha. but yeah i think itd be awesome to disable it when the camera is in use...and if we could disable the stupid low battery warning when the cam is in use too....we've got a notification led fix in the works already, a recovery image is being worked on, some devs are planning on porting CM6 to this phone, GPS and compass i believe are fixed for those who had problems with them, nightmode works a treat, so all we need are those 2 mods and i think the vibrant will be perfect...well for me anyway but im sure many would agree lol.
Even the lock/power button would be perfect.
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Even the lock/power button would be perfect.
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i added another idea to the first post. check it out.
uber bump! any devs considering this idea?
would this get more attention if i posted this in the development section as a think tank?
would really appreciate something like this. bump
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would really appreciate something like this. bump
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i wonder if the cm6 port would incorporate it...idk why samsung didnt include a camera button, then again im surprised how they squeezed so many features and tons of horsepower into this light little thing in the first place haha
+1 this would be a great add-on
I agree. This would be excellent!
can someone with twitter send this to wesgarner? i would but i dont have a twitter and i dont think he checks these forums very often.
This should definitely be possible, since in the video player, the lock/power doesn't lock the screen - it just disables the touch screen - so that touching the screen doesn't do anything like causing the control buttons to appear. This proves that the button itself is programmable based on the app.
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This should definitely be possible, since in the video player, the lock/power doesn't lock the screen - it just disables the touch screen - so that touching the screen doesn't do anything like causing the control buttons to appear. This proves that the button itself is programmable based on the app.
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wow thats neat i never noticed that! i'm sure its possible we just need somebody with the know-how to implement it. also, i think i mentioned this before, but since on the g1 devs were able to add a reboot option (which btw would be cool if we did that here too) i was thinking there should be a camera option in the menu to launch the camera app. and if we could remove the stupid camera/video disabler when low battery comes on, thatd be awesome too. i'm sure once a custom rom comes along these things could be implemented but we gotta grab a devs attention first.
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This should definitely be possible, since in the video player, the lock/power doesn't lock the screen - it just disables the touch screen - so that touching the screen doesn't do anything like causing the control buttons to appear. This proves that the button itself is programmable based on the app.
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The camera app does this too.
I'm hoping that someone has picked up on this and that it is in the works, I hope that it's doable.
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When I'm streaming movies from Amazon, the soft buttons on the bottom of the screen constantly stay lit. Does everyone else's do this? Is there a way to turn the lights off?
I guess the Amazon app for videos does not have the necessary code to do that... it's a problem with the app....
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I guess the Amazon app for videos does not have the necessary code to do that... it's a problem with the app....
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I'm not using an app. I'm using Boat Browser to go to the site. I even went back to stock and relocked to see if that may be affecting it. No change. And I notice they never go off even if I'm doing nothing but looking at the homescreen. Do yours go off?
Well, the Nexus 10 Guidebook answered one question. They are supposed to go off like I thought.
After a short time without getting used, these buttons may shrink to dots or fade away, depending on the current app. To bring them back, double-tap in their approximate location.
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I guess I'll call Google for an RMA.
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Well, the Nexus 10 Guidebook answered one question. They are supposed to go off like I thought.
I guess I'll call Google for an RMA.
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Might want to parse that guidebook a bit more:
After a short time without getting used, these buttons may shrink to dots or fade away, depending on the current app. To bring them back, double-tap in their approximate location.
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Might want to parse that guidebook a bit more:
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So do yours go off?
And like I said before, they don't go off even when not using an app and sitting at the homescreen.
Can't anyone answer a simple question? Do your navigation button lights stay on or go off?
Someone told me their lights stayed on except when using Netflix. I signed up for a Netflix trial just to test it. They go off when viewing a Netflix movie. I guess mine is normal, just not normal to what I'm used to.
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So do yours go off?
And like I said before, they don't go off even when not using an app and sitting at the homescreen.
Can't anyone answer a simple question? Do your navigation button lights stay on or go off?
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Homescreen - they stay on as long as the screen is on.
They don't "go off" ever since they're part of the UI. The only time they change is when they fade to small dots instead of icons, whenever certain apps are trying to go full-screen, although it's pseudo-fullscreen since the dots remain to show you where the home button is should you require it.
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Homescreen - they stay on as long as the screen is on.
They don't "go off" ever since they're part of the UI. The only time they change is when they fade to small dots instead of icons, whenever certain apps are trying to go full-screen, although it's pseudo-fullscreen since the dots remain to show you where the home button is should you require it.
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Thanks, I guess I'm used to ICS 4.0.4 on my phone. The light on the navigation buttons will go off after a few seconds of not touching the screen.
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Thanks, I guess I'm used to ICS 4.0.4 on my phone. The light on the navigation buttons will go off after a few seconds of not touching the screen.
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You realise that they're not backlit 'buttons' don't you? They don't have their own separate backlight...
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You realise that they're not backlit 'buttons' don't you? They don't have their own separate backlight...
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No, I've never really thought about it. It could be magic for all I know. I just know they will go off on my phone while the rest of the screen stays on.
The buttons are on the screen. They are not like the ones on your phone.