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OK a philosophical rant.
I've spent hours trying to decide which custom rom to install. Watched all the youtube videos went on all the developers web sites and read hundreds of pages of threads and yet nothing jumps out at me. I was asking myself why do I want a custom rom. So I went through a checklist of what roms offer
1. Remove bloatware - done that through titanium
2. Display customisations - I use sense and nova and various other gui apps that provide many options
3. Tweaks - I have exposed modules - sense 6, gravity box and xsense which give me all the tweaks I need
4. Speed - my phone's running very well.
5. Gestures - I use gmd gestures
Some roms offer hundreds of tweaks. In reality how often and how many would you change. Also while most roms are stable and bugs are fixable, there are many reports of problems and yes I know they do get fixed eventually but losing wifi, carrier access, reboots, bootloops etc can be disconcerting and a common question is how do I get back to stock rom.
I came to the conclusion that the only reason I wanted a custom rom was to see if I could load one and try it out. Seems like a lot of mucking about to achieve, in my case on this phone, very little.
Have i missed the point of roms?
I installed the Android Lollipop custom rom and it was nice. There were two bugs that I encountered and they were 1) no system r/w access and 2) I kept having to dismount and remount my sd card. I tried Cyanogenmod and while it was nice, I missed Blinkfeed.
It's a presonal preference, really. Everybody has their reason for what operating system they run on their phone. As for me, I like custom ROMs because I like to stay on the bleeding edge. If a new version of Android is released, you can guarantee there'll be a custom ROM for it within 1-2 weeks. Even when the OEM has stopped pushing out updates, custom ROMs give the ability to always stay on the bleeding edge. Also, some people dislike the Sense UI. Understandable, since it does slow the phone down just a bit. But really, it' just down to personal preference.
primed1 said:
It's a presonal preference, really. Everybody has their reason for what operating system they run on their phone. As for me, I like custom ROMs because I like to stay on the bleeding edge. If a new version of Android is released, you can guarantee there'll be a custom ROM for it within 1-2 weeks. Even when the OEM has stopped pushing out updates, custom ROMs give the ability to always stay on the bleeding edge. Also, some people dislike the Sense UI. Understandable, since it does slow the phone down just a bit. But really, it' just down to personal preference.
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Maybe its a Windows vs Mac thing. Its funny you know that I'm an experienced computer teacher and on PCs I always stay up to date and I do like to be on the bleeding edge but when it comes to phones I feel differently but on my Samsung tablet I do have a custom rom. I'm not anti custom rom. Samsungs bloatware is ridiculous, touchwiz is awful and the tablet is very laggy. A custom rom here was absolutely necessary. Now it flies but on the htc one m8, I don't mind sense 6, speed is good and customisations are adequate.
Technically speaking they are not necessary. I prefer stock android to sense.
Also lollipop appears to be a game changer for exposed. It's uncertain the future of exposed.
I know my ROM of choice is miui although it can be a crap shoot to get a stable ROM to my liking so I usually use mi launcher
jbarr3 said:
OK a philosophical rant.
I've spent hours trying to decide which custom rom to install. Watched all the youtube videos went on all the developers web sites and read hundreds of pages of threads and yet nothing jumps out at me. I was asking myself why do I want a custom rom. So I went through a checklist of what roms offer
1. Remove bloatware - done that through titanium
2. Display customisations - I use sense and nova and various other gui apps that provide many options
3. Tweaks - I have exposed modules - sense 6, gravity box and xsense which give me all the tweaks I need
4. Speed - my phone's running very well.
5. Gestures - I use gmd gestures
Some roms offer hundreds of tweaks. In reality how often and how many would you change. Also while most roms are stable and bugs are fixable, there are many reports of problems and yes I know they do get fixed eventually but losing wifi, carrier access, reboots, bootloops etc can be disconcerting and a common question is how do I get back to stock rom.
I came to the conclusion that the only reason I wanted a custom rom was to see if I could load one and try it out. Seems like a lot of mucking about to achieve, in my case on this phone, very little.
Have i missed the point of roms?
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Once u try Xposed Module Xtended Settings (for Sense 6) u won't need a rom. It's ALMOST got more features than s6tb, xsense, htc one tweaker, gravity box,- ALL COMBINED AND THEN SOME THAT NONE OF EM CONTAIN.... Newest versions up on Play Store (Xposed report has older versions).... With this 1 single mod, I have no need for custom rom. Try it u WILL NOT regret it (or turn back either)
Are custom roms necessary? In my opinion yes they are.
1: some people prefer a pure android experience (me included)
2: some people want certain tweaks, apps, and settings
3: and the MOST important one! Faster updates, and longer device life.
What do i mean by device life? Newest android on phones that the manufacturer phased out. Look at the galaxy s3 running 4.4.4, or the galaxy nexus running 4.4.4 and probably 5.0 now. These devices stopped getting updates from their manufacturers but are still good usuable phones, preventing me from getting a new device.
This is why companies have been locking down bootloaders, to get you to buy a new device for new software when the one you own is perfectly good.
So it comes down to taste, preference, and android version.
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Have i missed the point of roms?
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Xposed and all these apps which you are using came in very late if you compare them to when custom roms started popping up. Now, me for one prefer to have some of the functionality you use baked into my rom instead of me going to the play store and downloading an app to do so.
R4INS said:
Are custom roms necessary? In my opinion yes they are.
1: some people prefer a pure android experience (me included)
2: some people want certain tweaks, apps, and settings
3: and the MOST important one! Faster updates, and longer device life.
What do i mean by device life? Newest android on phones that the manufacturer phased out. Look at the galaxy s3 running 4.4.4, or the galaxy nexus running 4.4.4 and probably 5.0 now. These devices stopped getting updates from their manufacturers but are still good usuable phones, preventing me from getting a new device.
This is why companies have been locking down bootloaders, to get you to buy a new device for new software when the one you own is perfectly good.
So it comes down to taste, preference, and android version.
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Which rom are you using then?
BTW In Australia we are bypassing 4.4.4 and going straight to 5.0. When I don't know (Jan. was mentioned) but I'll revisit roms when they match my firmware. The point about updates is a good one. I forgot about that.
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Which rom are you using then?
BTW In Australia we are bypassing 4.4.4 and going straight to 5.0. When I don't know (Jan. was mentioned) but I'll revisit roms when they match my firmware. The point about updates is a good one. I forgot about that.
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Im running the google play edition 5.0 lollipop leak right now. Hoping the official google play 5.0 update comes this week. Kinda laggy. I tend to run cyanogenmod (cm11) so as soon as cm12 comes out ill be switching to that
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Im running the google play edition 5.0 lollipop leak right now. Hoping the official google play 5.0 update comes this week. Kinda laggy. I tend to run cyanogenmod (cm11) so as soon as cm12 comes out ill be switching to that
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Flash the antilag fix holyangel posted, it makes things usable imho. Its not 100% gone but its a whole lot better without the fix.
luigi90210 said:
Flash the antilag fix holyangel posted, it makes things usable imho. Its not 100% gone but its a whole lot better without the fix.
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Yeah i have the tweaks all set. Also switched to nova launcher (ditching google now helps). I really only experience the most lag in chrome and keyboard. I could try a differrnt keyboard i guess but it matches so well.
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Yeah i have the tweaks all set. Also switched to nova launcher (ditching google now helps). I really only experience the most lag in chrome and keyboard. I could try a differrnt keyboard i guess but it matches so well.
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Its funny you say that cause im only experiencing lag on google messanger. Everything else is smooth with the occasional hiccup once and a while.
To add my $0.02 to the topic, i feel custom roms in the sense like CM, AOKP, paranoid android, ect. are not necessary unless you have no way to get pure android on your device. Im running the leaked lollipop rom and im loving it aside from the minor lag issues im experiencing, i feel android has itself to a point where if you need to customize something, you have rooted apps that can do it, there isnt any need to have all these seperate apps baked into a rom when you will only use 1/3rd of the features, its just adding more bloat to what could be a pure aosp rom
luigi90210 said:
Its funny you say that cause im only experiencing lag on google messanger. Everything else is smooth with the occasional hiccup once and a while.
To add my $0.02 to the topic, i feel custom roms in the sense like CM, AOKP, paranoid android, ect. are not necessary unless you have no way to get pure android on your device. Im running the leaked lollipop rom and im loving it aside from the minor lag issues im experiencing, i feel android has itself to a point where if you need to customize something, you have rooted apps that can do it, there isnt any need to have all these seperate apps baked into a rom when you will only use 1/3rd of the features, its just adding more bloat to what could be a pure aosp rom
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While I do agree, that the feel of stock AOSP is unbeatable, I don't think that AOSP ROMs like CyanogenMod and Paranoid Android are completely useless. They have some features that you can't simply add with an Xposed module, or some root app. Take CM's theme manager, for example. I honestly don't know what I'd do without the theme manager. And Paranoid Android's Hover feature? (Which I guess with Lollipop's floating mode, is now useless), but in KitKat, it was revolutionary. And I'm sure they'll continue to add new, unbeatable features in Lollipop, too. And until they stop adding new features, I don't think it's likely that I'll stop using them.
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While I do agree, that the feel of stock AOSP is unbeatable, I don't think that AOSP ROMs like CyanogenMod and Paranoid Android are completely useless. They have some features that you can't simply add with an Xposed module, or some root app. Take CM's theme manager, for example. I honestly don't know what I'd do without the theme manager. And Paranoid Android's Hover feature? (Which I guess with Lollipop's floating mode, is now useless), but in KitKat, it was revolutionary. And I'm sure they'll continue to add new, unbeatable features in Lollipop, too. And until they stop adding new features, I don't think it's likely that I'll stop using them.
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Hover can be used via gravity box, wanam, and other tool boxes like it, themer however is unique to android but for a user like me who stays with stock themes that feature is moot.
With xposed not working on lollipop i can see where having a feature hardcoded into a rom would be good but thats only if xposed is broken forever.
Thats my $0.02 on the subject though, i personally find no need to run a custom rom on my HTC One M8, lollipop has all the features i use and i only need root to manage my kernel, files(root explorer), sound control, and an app like greenify that forces apps to shut down when not in use to gelp battery life.
bdizzle1686 said:
Once u try Xposed Module Xtended Settings (for Sense 6) u won't need a rom. It's ALMOST got more features than s6tb, xsense, htc one tweaker, gravity box,- ALL COMBINED AND THEN SOME THAT NONE OF EM CONTAIN.... Newest versions up on Play Store (Xposed report has older versions).... With this 1 single mod, I have no need for custom rom. Try it u WILL NOT regret it (or turn back either)
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Just installed this and your right, its very good but it is missing a couple of my favourite tweaks from my xsense, sense 6 toolbox and gravity box. Using all of these gives all the tweaks you could possibly want,
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While I do agree, that the feel of stock AOSP is unbeatable, I don't think that AOSP ROMs like CyanogenMod and Paranoid Android are completely useless. They have some features that you can't simply add with an Xposed module, or some root app. Take CM's theme manager, for example. I honestly don't know what I'd do without the theme manager. And Paranoid Android's Hover feature? (Which I guess with Lollipop's floating mode, is now useless), but in KitKat, it was revolutionary. And I'm sure they'll continue to add new, unbeatable features in Lollipop, too. And until they stop adding new features, I don't think it's likely that I'll stop using them.
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CM theme Manager based on T-Mobile theme engine is used by RichmondoUK in his xposed module too
A custom rom is a great thing but not necessary. I wish i had a custom rom on my m8, but since is almost certain that i can't s-off it, i don't wanna risk not been able to update the firmware or to lose wifi or network signal if i upgrade to a rom based on newer firmware. So i'll keep it stock at least until lollipop comes.
I`d like to add something,
Before knowing that GREAT invention called "XPOSED" , custom roms were a must for me and I assume for every android maniac like me. But now things are totally different , with XPOSED u can have customize ur stock rom in all ways . And thus u get all the benefits of both stock roms "stable bug free" and custom roms at the same time. Guys we shud really thank Mr. XPOSED inventor whoever he is. :good::good:
Jabber Abdullah said:
Before knowing that GREAT invention called "XPOSED" , custom roms were a must for me and I assume for every android maniac like me. But now things are totally different , with XPOSED u can have customize ur stock rom in all ways . And thus u get all the benefits of both stock roms "stable bug free" and custom roms at the same time. Guys we shud really thank Mr. XPOSED inventor whoever he is. :good::good:
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I see everyone talking about Xposed.
Given it's uncertain future in Android 5 I'm afraid for the foreseeable you are going to want baked in features on custom ROMs.
I personally cannot wait to see what themers can do with Android 5.0 in the CM theme engine.
Like others I am also waiting for CM12 as it always just feels more snappy than stock.
Hi guys,
I am new in xda. I was searching a good bugless rom with support xposed.
I am using note 3 n9005. 32 gb. lollipop. Thanks in advanced.
Mr:L said:
Hi guys,
I am new in xda. I was searching a good bugless rom with support xposed.
I am using note 3 n9005. 32 gb. lollipop. Thanks in advanced.
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? rom is best
Stay with stock rom because customized roms cuts a lot of samsung functions like spen and gestures goodies
Mr:L said:
Hi guys,
I am new in xda. I was searching a good bugless rom with support xposed.
I am using note 3 n9005. 32 gb. lollipop. Thanks in advanced.
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Welcome to XDA.
I suggest you enter the development section and do like most of us - flash like a maniac until you find a ROM that suits your needs, looks the way you want, feels the way you want.
Still, let me sum it up. These are the main categories of ROMs for our beloved N9005:
1. TouchWiz ROMs.
Those are ROMs based on the official firmware that Samsung released for our phones. They keep between most and all features and apps that are originally offered by Samsung, and then some extras like even better battery life, slightly better camera shots with higher quality, to some small extent they're themed.
tl;dr
Pros:
+ Stable.
+ Good battery life.
+ All the functionality is kept.
Cons:
- In my opinion, while quite functional, TouchWiz is ugly as hell.
- Can be somewhat laggy at times.
- You can't mod as much as you want to.
2. AOSP ROMs.?
Those are ROMs based on the Android Open Source Project. Basically, these ROMs turn your device into a Nexus device and strive to bring the pure Android experience. Those ROMs are fast as hell, responsive, and very, VERY easily modified. On the other hand, those are ROMs made by enthusiasts, in some cases professional developers. Still, ROMs that are made from the ground up, and are largely still works in progress.
tl;dr
Pros:
+ Your phone running an AOSP ROM will be way faster than TouchWiz.
+ NO bloatware. I mean, all that Samsung bulls**t like ChatOn, Samsung Hub/Apps/Link/Group Play/Trip Advisor and some 20 others are NOT present on AOSP ROMs.
+ Much more open to modifications, including the way even non-system apps look. Like, you can have a dark themed Facebook and Instagram and whatever you use.
Cons:
- Battery life on those ROMs is generally not as good as on TouchWiz.
- While the phone is way faster, the camera experience is also not as good as on TouchWiz. The camera starts quite slowly and while the shots it takes are not bad, those taken on TouchWiz are visibly better.
- Like I said above, those ROMs are works in progress and may have bugs and while most of them are with status Stable by now and most major bugs are not present anymore, there might still be some annoyances.
3. Ported ROMs.
Those are ROMs based on firmwares originally made for other devices, in our case mostly other Samsung devices. The Note 4 (soon Note 5) and S6 have functionality not present even on stock ROMs, like the Galaxy S6's Theme Store. That way with a ported ROM you have access to that functionality while keeping all of the original functionality.
Pros:
+ Added even more functions.
+ With ported ROMs you can experience to an extent new devices without actually having to buy them.
Cons:
- Might be buggy. Making another phone's firmware work on yours is no easy task.
- Battery life might be strange. Good on some days and downright miserable on others. xD
Final instructions:
1. Welcome to XDA.
2. Read A LOT. When choosing a ROM, read EVERYTHING in the ROM thread's original post, and if there is something you want to know but is not answered in the original post, search through the thread, 95% of the cases someone else has asked your question and it has been answered.
3. After reading a lot and you believe you're ready for action, READ IT ALL OVER AGAIN.
4. When you're absolutely sure you're ready, start flashing.
gg gl hf
sirobelec said:
Welcome to XDA.
I suggest you enter the development section and do like most of us - flash like a maniac until you find a ROM that suits your needs, looks the way you want, feels the way you want.
Still, let me sum it up. These are the main categories of ROMs for our beloved N9005:
1. TouchWiz ROMs.
Those are ROMs based on the official firmware that Samsung released for our phones. They keep between most and all features and apps that are originally offered by Samsung, and then some extras like even better battery life, slightly better camera shots with higher quality, to some small extent they're themed.
tl;dr
Pros:
+ Stable.
+ Good battery life.
+ All the functionality is kept.
Cons:
- In my opinion, while quite functional, TouchWiz is ugly as hell.
- Can be somewhat laggy at times.
- You can't mod as much as you want to.
2. AOSP ROMs.?
Those are ROMs based on the Android Open Source Project. Basically, these ROMs turn your device into a Nexus device and strive to bring the pure Android experience. Those ROMs are fast as hell, responsive, and very, VERY easily modified. On the other hand, those are ROMs made by enthusiasts, in some cases professional developers. Still, ROMs that are made from the ground up, and are largely still works in progress.
tl;dr
Pros:
+ Your phone running an AOSP ROM will be way faster than TouchWiz.
+ NO bloatware. I mean, all that Samsung bulls**t like ChatOn, Samsung Hub/Apps/Link/Group Play/Trip Advisor and some 20 others are NOT present on AOSP ROMs.
+ Much more open to modifications, including the way even non-system apps look. Like, you can have a dark themed Facebook and Instagram and whatever you use.
Cons:
- Battery life on those ROMs is generally not as good as on TouchWiz.
- While the phone is way faster, the camera experience is also not as good as on TouchWiz. The camera starts quite slowly and while the shots it takes are not bad, those taken on TouchWiz are visibly better.
- Like I said above, those ROMs are works in progress and may have bugs and while most of them are with status Stable by now and most major bugs are not present anymore, there might still be some annoyances.
3. Ported ROMs.
Those are ROMs based on firmwares originally made for other devices, in our case mostly other Samsung devices. The Note 4 (soon Note 5) and S6 have functionality not present even on stock ROMs, like the Galaxy S6's Theme Store. That way with a ported ROM you have access to that functionality while keeping all of the original functionality.
Pros:
+ Added even more functions.
+ With ported ROMs you can experience to an extent new devices without actually having to buy them.
Cons:
- Might be buggy. Making another phone's firmware work on yours is no easy task.
- Battery life might be strange. Good on some days and downright miserable on others. xD
Final instructions:
1. Welcome to XDA.
2. Read A LOT. When choosing a ROM, read EVERYTHING in the ROM thread's original post, and if there is something you want to know but is not answered in the original post, search through the thread, 95% of the cases someone else has asked your question and it has been answered.
3. After reading a lot and you believe you're ready for action, READ IT ALL OVER AGAIN.
4. When you're absolutely sure you're ready, start flashing.
gg gl hf
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Thanks bro! :angel: you just answered my all question.
sirobelec said:
Welcome to XDA.
I suggest you enter the development section and do like most of us - flash like a maniac until you find a ROM that suits your needs, looks the way you want, feels the way you want.
Still, let me sum it up. These are the main categories of ROMs for our beloved N9005:
1. TouchWiz ROMs.
Those are ROMs based on the official firmware that Samsung released for our phones. They keep between most and all features and apps that are originally offered by Samsung, and then some extras like even better battery life, slightly better camera shots with higher quality, to some small extent they're themed.
tl;dr
Pros:
+ Stable.
+ Good battery life.
+ All the functionality is kept.
Cons:
- In my opinion, while quite functional, TouchWiz is ugly as hell.
- Can be somewhat laggy at times.
- You can't mod as much as you want to.
2. AOSP ROMs.?
Those are ROMs based on the Android Open Source Project. Basically, these ROMs turn your device into a Nexus device and strive to bring the pure Android experience. Those ROMs are fast as hell, responsive, and very, VERY easily modified. On the other hand, those are ROMs made by enthusiasts, in some cases professional developers. Still, ROMs that are made from the ground up, and are largely still works in progress.
tl;dr
Pros:
+ Your phone running an AOSP ROM will be way faster than TouchWiz.
+ NO bloatware. I mean, all that Samsung bulls**t like ChatOn, Samsung Hub/Apps/Link/Group Play/Trip Advisor and some 20 others are NOT present on AOSP ROMs.
+ Much more open to modifications, including the way even non-system apps look. Like, you can have a dark themed Facebook and Instagram and whatever you use.
Cons:
- Battery life on those ROMs is generally not as good as on TouchWiz.
- While the phone is way faster, the camera experience is also not as good as on TouchWiz. The camera starts quite slowly and while the shots it takes are not bad, those taken on TouchWiz are visibly better.
- Like I said above, those ROMs are works in progress and may have bugs and while most of them are with status Stable by now and most major bugs are not present anymore, there might still be some annoyances.
3. Ported ROMs.
Those are ROMs based on firmwares originally made for other devices, in our case mostly other Samsung devices. The Note 4 (soon Note 5) and S6 have functionality not present even on stock ROMs, like the Galaxy S6's Theme Store. That way with a ported ROM you have access to that functionality while keeping all of the original functionality.
Pros:
+ Added even more functions.
+ With ported ROMs you can experience to an extent new devices without actually having to buy them.
Cons:
- Might be buggy. Making another phone's firmware work on yours is no easy task.
- Battery life might be strange. Good on some days and downright miserable on others. xD
Final instructions:
1. Welcome to XDA.
2. Read A LOT. When choosing a ROM, read EVERYTHING in the ROM thread's original post, and if there is something you want to know but is not answered in the original post, search through the thread, 95% of the cases someone else has asked your question and it has been answered.
3. After reading a lot and you believe you're ready for action, READ IT ALL OVER AGAIN.
4. When you're absolutely sure you're ready, start flashing.
gg gl hf
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great great great advise and good rom listing advise
Hello xda members! I upgraded from the moto g 1st gen lord this phone was amazingly supported by developpers so does this OnePlus 2! As the titles says I am looking for the smoothest rom for the OnePlus 2 based on your usage. On my moto g my favorite roms were:
-Resurrection Remix
-Lineage OS
-AOSP
-AOSP extended
I liked RR for the customisation but I prefer smoothness. I wonder what is the smoothest rom for our lovely
OnePlus 2 :laugh:
Thanks!
looking for one as well. I've tried lineage but there are some random reboots (all over the place) so i then switched to halogen OS. Everything was cool and stuff until i tried to use my data. It wasn't working. i therefore went into the apn settings and there i see : "apn settings not available for this user"...
so im stuck with dumb dns changing apps to get it to work.
But overall halogen is way better (more customization, aosp...)
Jeoa said:
looking for one as well. I've tried lineage but there are some random reboots (all over the place) so i then switched to halogen OS. Everything was cool and stuff until i tried to use my data. It wasn't working. i therefore went into the apn settings and there i see : "apn settings not available for this user"...
so im stuck with dumb dns changing apps to get it to work.
But overall halogen is way better (more customization, aosp...)
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Try XenonHD rom. I use it for a month on my op2 and it performs really great, i am satisfied!
i use in combo with fraco kernel and i stop looking for other roms, this one got me. xD
try mokee os it have amazing battery backup with substratum theme engine inbuilt....its inbuilt app hibernation system Aegis provides better battery backup then other roms...
There's no such thing as the best ROM. It's all from a point of view. You may like a feature that the second guy doesn't making priorities different. Rating ROMs like this can hurt the hard working developers sometimes please refrain
I've tried WAAAAAAAAAY too man ROMs, and I can give a pretty good overview of some of my favs
1) HalogenOS -
Pros: great performance, stable af, updates about every 2 weeks, a focus on stability and bug squashing, extreme battery life
Cons: Not many features, a focus on stability means that features are slow to be added.
2)XenonHD -
Pros: Lineage-based means plentiful features, nightly updates, decent performance
Cons: OTA doesn't support OpenRecoveryScript, updates are extremely frequent (might be a con?), included apps seem to be in a constant state of flux
3) Cosmic OS -
Pros: Features! (like, all of them), fairly stable ROM, good battery life, good performance
Cons: Performance is a bit lacking in comparison to some other ROMs, likely due to the insane number of features
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2)XenonHD -
Pros: Lineage-based means plentiful features, nightly updates, decent performance
Cons: OTA doesn't support OpenRecoveryScript, updates are extremely frequent (might be a con?), included apps seem to be in a constant state of flux
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I'll slow down on XenomHD
MZO said:
I'll slow down on XenomHD
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Your ROM sweetie, I like to try them out, and am currently searching for the ROM that is best for me, I don't expect anyone to change their ROM because what I want will be different than what they or their target wants. TBH I am mainly just waiting for Lineage to implement some form of theming, although I am wagering they are going to switch to OMS
SkyeNymph said:
Your ROM sweetie, I like to try them out, and am currently searching for the ROM that is best for me, I don't expect anyone to change their ROM because what I want will be different than what they or their target wants. TBH I am mainly just waiting for Lineage to implement some form of theming, although I am wagering they are going to switch to OMS
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No I was thinking myself to slow down. Daily / alternate days is too fast for a grown ROM. Either way; yes they're not gonna implement theme engine in this release probably because after a few months we're all gonna start hyping up for O. Maybe they'll​merge OMS then. Theme engine is probably dead because it's unheard of and OMS is the new thing.
MZO said:
No I was thinking myself to slow down. Daily / alternate days is too fast for a grown ROM. Either way; yes they're not gonna implement theme engine in this release probably because after a few months we're all gonna start hyping up for O. Maybe they'll​merge OMS then. Theme engine is probably dead because it's unheard of and OMS is the new thing.
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That and the only real benefit to CMTE was that it could be used without root and without reboots, back when it was CMTE vs. Layers, but OMS/Substratum has addressed both of those, and has better performance. The only reason to make a LOS theme engine for 14+ is to maintain fragmentation in the Android theming community. Obviously, this is not a good thing
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That and the only real benefit to CMTE was that it could be used without root and without reboots, back when it was CMTE vs. Layers, but OMS/Substratum has addressed both of those, and has better performance. The only reason to make a LOS theme engine for 14+ is to maintain fragmentation in the Android theming community. Obviously, this is not a good thing
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SkyeNymph said:
That and the only real benefit to CMTE was that it could be used without root and without reboots, back when it was CMTE vs. Layers, but OMS/Substratum has addressed both of those, and has better performance. The only reason to make a LOS theme engine for 14+ is to maintain fragmentation in the Android theming community. Obviously, this is not a good thing
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Try this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-2/development/rom-customized-lineageos-t3578442
Its LineageOS With OMS and Majisk built in.
Try Roms outside XDA
I found Dirty Unicorns to be the smoothest with best battery backup and with good features..Its the snappiest nougat ROM I have tried till now..and as nearly all ROMs have OMS support, no doubt it also has the required commit ..Haven't found any bugs uptil now..(1 weeks usage)..
blaaaazedup said:
Try this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-2/development/rom-customized-lineageos-t3578442
Its LineageOS With OMS and Majisk built in.
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Nah no Magisk.
I have unlocked my bootloader, rooted with Magisk and flashed AsopExtended Rom. Very happy with the performance of my A2017U as it is right now. My question to ya'll is, What would be the pros and cons of returning to complete stock (for OTA updates) or sticking with rooted and custom rom and not being able to receive OTA updates?
whats the question here? Its on you... what you prefer
Lol that depends of your needs - I stick to stock because of audio (mostly) and somehow bcz of camera (as far as I know you can install stock camera app).
That's question is a little bit irrevelant when you was stock and now you are testing custom rom.
So the answer is simply - replay to your question by yourself and with margin to your needs.
Had to test the waters with custom roms on this phone, but was just wanting to hear other peoples thoughts on the subject. I've always tinkered with customizing my phones and enjoy doing so. Would like to hear different points of view and then see if it would make me change my mind. Sometimes custom roms have little bugs that people can or can't live with, and in some cases stock is best for total functionality. Just curious of others opinions.....
amaury48 said:
Had to test the waters with custom roms on this phone, but was just wanting to hear other peoples thoughts on the subject. I've always tinkered with customizing my phones and enjoy doing so. Would like to hear different points of view and then see if it would make me change my mind. Sometimes custom roms have little bugs that people can or can't live with, and in some cases stock is best for total functionality. Just curious of others opinions.....
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IMHO custom ROMs are littered with bugs, but mostly overlookable. Take the phone bug or storage with SD card bug for example.
Stock works better in every regard (except substratum, damn you mifavor) and with MiFavor 5 this is even truer. But if you like your current ROM there's no reason to go back...
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IMHO custom ROMs are littered with bugs, but mostly overlookable. Take the phone bug or storage with SD card bug for example.
Stock works better in every regard (except substratum, damn you mifavor) and with MiFavor 5 this is even truer. But if you like your current ROM there's no reason to go back...
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Yeah, I finally went back to stock B25 via the DrakenFx method to retain root and custom recovery. I came across the phone bug on my custom rom and that helped me make my decision to go back to a stock rom.....
Yep, used custom ROMs from the first week of owning the phone until about a month ago when I went back to B25 with Magisk. Couldn't be happier.
I was about to make a similar thread myself but saw this one. I have been running custom roms since day one but have been considering returning to stock.
A brief summary of the benefits:
Reasons to go with stock:
Fully functional ZTE camera app with no bugs - This is perhaps more important than you might think, ZTE haven't enabled the Camera 2 API which means its very possible we are going to get the best quality and feature-set by sticking with the stock app. If ZTE haven't released their blobs there could very well be reasons to stick with the default camera app...not only that but I like it. You can install the mod, but there are aspects that will never work and some roms and kernels play more nicely with the mod than others.
Dolby Atmos app. Similar to the camera on stock this would just mean less messing about, you can of course get atmos mods in magisk but whether they work as well as the stock ZTE app I am not sure. The strange thing is I have never had the stock ZTE Axon atmos magisk mod to work on a custom rom, even though I have an Axon!
Reliability, no need to worry about force closes or apps not working, everything pretty much just works. So much less stress if you use your phone as a daily driver.
Ease of use, less features makes the phone easier to use. In some cases even when you are a tinkerer like me its sometimes good to be able to forget about continuously tweaking stuff and digging yourself in to a never ending upgrade cycle.
Oreo, it looks like if you stay stock we will see Oreo sooner than custom roms.
Reasons to go custom:
Substratum, oh boy would I miss this going back to stock. The ZTE theme engine is pants compared and I love the work that goes in to my current premium theme.
Battery life, perhaps with the aid of also a custom kernel there are some very nice roms and kernels being worked on which allow you to fully customise and save battery life.
Features, you can set the phone up exactly as you want too, every small detail can be customised. You can choose exactly which rom you like based on the features you use.
Performance, you can get more performance out of a custom rom with custom kernel and find a nicer balance between battery and performance, whichever suits you.
Fun, its fun to flash different roms and get the flashing bug. You learn a lot and get to join in with a fantastic community where people help each other.
Third option, run a debloated custom rom.
Seems to be more and more popular, as an ex Nexus 5 user I loved Cataclysm rom for this very reason. You keep all the features associated with stock with added performance benefits, fixes and less bloat. There is a downside if you plan on keeping atmos as some stock roms seem to strip it away, but it is a nice compromise between the options above. Usually these roms are more reliable as they are based on stock too. If you want a lean rom that just works, this may suit you!
Its such a hard choice and one I still havent decided on, if I have missed anything please let me know!
Background info and summary:
My first smartphone was a ZTE blade 2 and it was a beast for the money, this phone is tremendous too. My GF owns a pixel and apart from the camera this phone trumps it for value no question...for less than half the price.
I have to say though, I do miss the days of my Nexus 5 and the larger mod community, I realise these days have gone now with google devices but perhaps next time I will opt to go to Oneplus just so I can trust a bit more that there will be less caveats going custom as if there is one complaint I have with ZTE it is their unwillingness to release their source code for the little tiny things like the camera api and atmos.
Dodgexander said:
I was about to make a similar thread myself but saw this one. I have been running custom roms since day one but have been considering returning to stock.
A brief summary of the benefits:
Reasons to go with stock:
Fully functional ZTE camera app with no bugs - This is perhaps more important than you might think, ZTE haven't enabled the Camera 2 API which means its very possible we are going to get the best quality and feature-set by sticking with the stock app. If ZTE haven't released their blobs there could very well be reasons to stick with the default camera app...not only that but I like it. You can install the mod, but there are aspects that will never work and some roms and kernels play more nicely with the mod than others.
Dolby Atmos app. Similar to the camera on stock this would just mean less messing about, you can of course get atmos mods in magisk but whether they work as well as the stock ZTE app I am not sure. The strange thing is I have never had the stock ZTE Axon atmos magisk mod to work on a custom rom, even though I have an Axon!
Reliability, no need to worry about force closes or apps not working, everything pretty much just works. So much less stress if you use your phone as a daily driver.
Ease of use, less features makes the phone easier to use. In some cases even when you are a tinkerer like me its sometimes good to be able to forget about continuously tweaking stuff and digging yourself in to a never ending upgrade cycle.
Oreo, it looks like if you stay stock we will see Oreo sooner than custom roms.
Reasons to go custom:
Substratum, oh boy would I miss this going back to stock. The ZTE theme engine is pants compared and I love the work that goes in to my current premium theme.
Battery life, perhaps with the aid of also a custom kernel there are some very nice roms and kernels being worked on which allow you to fully customise and save battery life.
Features, you can set the phone up exactly as you want too, every small detail can be customised. You can choose exactly which rom you like based on the features you use.
Performance, you can get more performance out of a custom rom with custom kernel and find a nicer balance between battery and performance, whichever suits you.
Fun, its fun to flash different roms and get the flashing bug. You learn a lot and get to join in with a fantastic community where people help each other.
Third option, run a debloated custom rom.
Seems to be more and more popular, as an ex Nexus 5 user I loved Cataclysm rom for this very reason. You keep all the features associated with stock with added performance benefits, fixes and less bloat. There is a downside if you plan on keeping atmos as some stock roms seem to strip it away, but it is a nice compromise between the options above. Usually these roms are more reliable as they are based on stock too. If you want a lean rom that just works, this may suit you!
Its such a hard choice and one I still havent decided on, if I have missed anything please let me know!
Background info and summary:
My first smartphone was a ZTE blade 2 and it was a beast for the money, this phone is tremendous too. My GF owns a pixel and apart from the camera this phone trumps it for value no question...for less than half the price.
I have to say though, I do miss the days of my Nexus 5 and the larger mod community, I realise these days have gone now with google devices but perhaps next time I will opt to go to Oneplus just so I can trust a bit more that there will be less caveats going custom as if there is one complaint I have with ZTE it is their unwillingness to release their source code for the little tiny things like the camera api and atmos.
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Some comments about this:
-Stock still has RRO support, so while it is kinda craptastic to use substratum this way, it is doable. I have most of my apps with Swift Dark (the ones that don't force close anyways) and Lawnchair with black theme, on MiFavor 5 which already has a rather black quick settings screen. The result is awesome
While you might be getting more battery life from a custom ROM, I totally disagree on the performance part. Everything works just slower. But yeah, battery-wise I got 7h SOT once which is absolutely bonkers :silly:
If you want a nice modded stock try any MiFavor 5 modded ROM like RDX or ADM Team. Those keep Atmos and use MiFavor 5 B13, which seemingly have a new camera app?
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Some comments about this:
-Stock still has RRO support, so while it is kinda craptastic to use substratum this way, it is doable. I have most of my apps with Swift Dark (the ones that don't force close anyways) and Lawnchair with black theme, on MiFavor 5 which already has a rather black quick settings screen. The result is awesome
While you might be getting more battery life from a custom ROM, I totally disagree on the performance part. Everything works just slower. But yeah, battery-wise I got 7h SOT once which is absolutely bonkers :silly:
If you want a nice modded stock try any MiFavor 5 modded ROM like RDX or ADM Team. Those keep Atmos and use MiFavor 5 B13, which seemingly have a new camera app?
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Thanks I will give ADM a try first since RDX seems to exclusively for the A2017 and I own the A2017U.
Frankly when I saw substratum without OMS support before I wasn't impressed but it sounds like it's worth a look.
Performance wise I loved running AOKP. It runs so much faster than resurrection remix and faster than my brief time on stock also.
It's a pain sacrifices have to made somewhere, but I guess you can't argue for the money!
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Thanks I will give ADM a try first since RDX seems to exclusively for the A2017 and I own the A2017U.
Frankly when I saw substratum without OMS support before I wasn't impressed but it sounds like it's worth a look.
Performance wise I loved running AOKP. It runs so much faster than resurrection remix and faster than my brief time on stock also.
It's a pain sacrifices have to made somewhere, but I guess you can't argue for the money!
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I think you simply have to flash the univ bootstack and your modem file to install RDX, it just wasn't tested on other phones but the A2017. but yeah, just use ADM Team
If we don't get Oreo, I will root mine, debloat etc and unroot just to keep it stock but lean. Stock camera in Nougat is quite good IMO. Atmos is pants but I will leave it alone.
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If we don't get Oreo, I will root mine, debloat etc and unroot just to keep it stock but lean. Stock camera in Nougat is quite good IMO. Atmos is pants but I will leave it alone.
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what's the downside of having it rooted?
Some apps don't work and it has to be secure for work use.
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Some apps don't work and it has to be secure for work use.
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Magisk then...
Choose an username... said:
Some comments about this:
-Stock still has RRO support, so while it is kinda craptastic to use substratum this way, it is doable. I have most of my apps with Swift Dark (the ones that don't force close anyways) and Lawnchair with black theme, on MiFavor 5 which already has a rather black quick settings screen. The result is awesome
While you might be getting more battery life from a custom ROM, I totally disagree on the performance part. Everything works just slower. But yeah, battery-wise I got 7h SOT once which is absolutely bonkers :silly:
If you want a nice modded stock try any MiFavor 5 modded ROM like RDX or ADM Team. Those keep Atmos and use MiFavor 5 B13, which seemingly have a new camera app?
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Just installed adm rom and substratum but can't get any themes to work at all. Substratum appears to work and let's me install them but after a reboot they don't work.
I tested with the Google app, gmail and chrome amongst others. I am using swift black.
I guess it's just a bug with the adm Rom? Magisk is working fine I think.
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Just installed adm rom and substratum but can't get any themes to work at all. Substratum appears to work and let's me install them but after a reboot they don't work.
I tested with the Google app, gmail and chrome amongst others. I am using swift black.
I guess it's just a bug with the adm Rom? Magisk is working fine I think.
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It can't be because I had everything themed on ADM ROM too. Except system ui and that stuff since it can't be themed. no idea why that happens.
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It can't be because I had everything themed on ADM ROM too. Except system ui and that stuff since it can't be themed. no idea why that happens.
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Were you using the new release with version 5 of mifavor?
What about systemless host list in magisk enabled to get adaway to work?
Only two things I have changed. I am using A2017U with the b13 bootstack.
Haven't changed anything else so no idea why it isn't working.
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Were you using the new release with version 5 of mifavor?
What about systemless host list in magisk enabled to get adaway to work?
Only two things I have changed. I am using A2017U with the b13 bootstack.
Haven't changed anything else so no idea why it isn't working.
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i was using the old release with version 5 (ADM Team V3)
I would stick with stock unless you are an extreme power user. ZTE fixed 99% of the issues with MiFavor with 7.1.1 and custom ROMs are littered with SO MANY little bugs. MiFavor is extremely stable now. Audio and camera is also much worse on custom.
But hey whatever you prefer.
just wanna know what custom rom you guys use as daily driver and i wanna know why, also pros and cons
Try them out. To each their own and some may find this topic rude.
Check this out : https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/custom-rom-t3867290/page57
It's OP6 but not much difference as you know.
The spreadsheet on the last page is pretty nice.
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just wanna know what custom rom you guys use as daily driver and i wanna know why, also pros and cons
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Treskmod
CAF PE. There's a lot of great stuff outside of XDA.
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CAF PE. There's a lot of great stuff outside of XDA.
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CAF PE has fingerprint support for 6T?
For the first time (since OnePlus 5) I've been happy with stock OOS. Even the Oreo base didn't seem as polished but now I can happily say I haven't felt the need to go to a custom ROM.
The only inconvenience is not having full/proper OMS support, so I have to reboot to see built overlays in Substratum. Other than that I have no complaints.
Honestly all these roms, even w/FP support, are not better than stock OOS.
*None are as smooth
*Obviously none are as stable
*Either a rom is jam packed with features you may find useful, but buggy as hell. Or they are stable and powerful, but the only features are to change the time in the status bar.
*No rom has been able to imitate or even out perform OOS gestures, which surprisingly is pretty important for me.
But if I had to pick one it would be Omni Rom. Most balance of all things.
The new official omnirom is great although I couldn't get microg to work. It is the only ROM that screen casting worked for me.
The stock ROM with XXX script is pretty good.
The ROM I used the longest is carbon ROM.
Best is going to be different for each user as not all users require the same options. Right now I am on omni official although microg doesn't work. Using gapps for the first time in three or five years. Kinda odd using Google apps again.