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HTC One M8 or G3? Help please!

I'm getting a new phone soon, and I'm stuck between the LG G3 and HTC One M8. I know this is the G3 forum but I hope I'll get honest suggestions from here.
Can someone please honestly answer my questions:
1. Since I'm coming from the Moto X 2014, I need a fast enough and future proof (duh, till 2016 Jun) phone. I sold it because the screen was fragile, display was so yellowish to my liking, camera wasn't good, no dev support, poor headphone output, poor battery and tempered glass protectors won't even fit properly. My question is, is the G3 really fast enough for the period I stated above? I don't want any lag or frame rate issues on my phone, even with games like MC5 or any other GPU demanding game.
2. How's the battery of the phone? I know about the stock figures, but with a custom ROM, and custom kernel, how many SOT can you get?
3. How's the headphone output? Is it comparable to the One M8 after some tweaking?
4. I don't mind chaging the screen resolution to 1080p, but after changing it, is the phone completely stable? I don't need bugs or any stability issues.
I really like the G3 for its screen size and camera (camera isn't a big priority though), a GB of RAM extra, bezel less design. While, the HTC M8 is cheaper, with some good Harman Kardon earphones, much better speakers, better performance.
Help me out please!

edios123 said:
I'm getting a new phone soon, and I'm stuck between the LG G3 and HTC One M8. I know this is the G3 forum but I hope I'll get honest suggestions from here.
Can someone please honestly answer my questions:
1. Since I'm coming from the Moto X 2014, I need a fast enough and future proof (duh, till 2016 Jun) phone. I sold it because the screen was fragile, display was so yellowish to my liking, camera wasn't good, no dev support, poor headphone output, poor battery and tempered glass protectors won't even fit properly. My question is, is the G3 really fast enough for the period I stated above? I don't want any lag or frame rate issues on my phone, even with games like MC5 or any other GPU demanding game.
2. How's the battery of the phone? I know about the stock figures, but with a custom ROM, and custom kernel, how many SOT can you get?
3. How's the headphone output? Is it comparable to the One M8 after some tweaking?
4. I don't mind chaging the screen resolution to 1080p, but after changing it, is the phone completely stable? I don't need bugs or any stability issues.
I really like the G3 for its screen size and camera (camera isn't a big priority though), a GB of RAM extra, bezel less design. While, the HTC M8 is cheaper, with some good Harman Kardon earphones, much better speakers, better performance.
Help me out please!
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Well i would suggest the G3 for the same reasons i got it, the camera is far better than the M8, the video recording is up to 4k, the screen can't be lowered in resolution so the battery might drain a bit more than the M8 but the battery on the G3 has more capacity, the phone lasts me a whole day and a bit more but i always charge it each night, the phone is bigger in screen size and overall size but the feel on the hand is quite good, im typing using one hand so that should say a lot, the phone is plenty fast and the added gig of ram future proofs the phone a bit more, i would say hold out for the g4 but if you need to buy now then get the g3 i have already owned it for almost a year and the phone has been fantastic, im currently using the stock 4.4.2 firmware because lollipop breaks root and there is no shortage of roms so you can customize away with your liking. Overall get the G3. Also a minor detail that is easily noticeable on gold and white phones are small hairline cracks on the mics and ir blaster so if that is an absolute deal breaker get the m8 and if you get the at&t version then watch out cause sometimes some phones the wireless charging stops working good thing is at&t will exhange it but you have to press that the issue is the phone not the accesories. Overall is the best phone i have had since my sgs3
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bolillo said:
Well i would suggest the G3 for the same reasons i got it, the camera is far better than the M8, the video recording is up to 4k, the screen can't be lowered in resolution so the battery might drain a bit more than the M8 but the battery on the G3 has more capacity, the phone lasts me a whole day and a bit more but i always charge it each night, the phone is bigger in screen size and overall size but the feel on the hand is quite good, im typing using one hand so that should say a lot, the phone is plenty fast and the added gig of ram future proofs the phone a bit more, i would say hold out for the g4 but if you need to buy now then get the g3 i have already owned it for almost a year and the phone has been fantastic, im currently using the stock 4.4.2 firmware because lollipop breaks root and there is no shortage of roms so you can customize away with your liking. Overall get the G3. Also a minor detail that is easily noticeable on gold and white phones are small hairline cracks on the mics and ir blaster so if that is an absolute deal breaker get the m8 and if you get the at&t version then watch out cause sometimes some phones the wireless charging stops working good thing is at&t will exhange it but you have to press that the issue is the phone not the accesories. Overall is the best phone i have had since my sgs3
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Some reviews say G3 is better, some say M8 is better. So I can't decide on one.
The only thing holding me back from the G3 is the lag. I got into some G3 threads and it seems the phone really lags in gaming too. If the lag wasn't there, G3 was the better phone obviously. I can't wait for the G4 because I'm getting these for cheap.
I don't want lag in ANY game or app. :/

With stock based custom rom I don't have lag.
With aosp based rom is incredibly fast.

I have both (actually my wife has the M8).
G3 pros
1) better camera
2) better screen
3) better in hand sensation
4) more updates (about 3 in 3 months)

edios123 said:
Some reviews say G3 is better, some say M8 is better. So I can't decide on one.
The only thing holding me back from the G3 is the lag. I got into some G3 threads and it seems the phone really lags in gaming too. If the lag wasn't there, G3 was the better phone obviously. I can't wait for the G4 because I'm getting these for cheap.
I don't want lag in ANY game or app. :/
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I really dont understand why people say theres lag in games? i have this phone and dont get any lag in games at all and im on a stock rom too, personally i think G3 is a better phone than the m8, screens bigger with great screen to bezel ratio, quality of the screen is better imo, battery life maybe isnt better as this phone has a bigger screen and higher resolution screen (btw watch a high def movie on the LG G3 and it looks amazing). i bought my LG G3 for £280 brand new sim unlocked, for that price you cant go wrong.

I think the screen on the G3 is really good. It's what I liked the first time I seen it. Not that it was big but because it looked so clear. I used to calibrate displays and I think overall its one of the best screens I've seen on a phone. It definitely lacks black level but makes up for it everywhere else. Sharpness is now modifiable.
-A modified G3 can reach the M8 in benchmarks so speed may be comparable.
-A modified G3 can reach 80fps in Quadrant benchmarks.
-The G3 has a good camera and great third party app.
My parents both have an M8 as per my suggestion. I think they are great phones but I'm not sorry for choosing the G3 for myself, except for those great speakers the M8 has. Those speakers are just awesome!
Overall the build quality is totally different between the two based on materials used but the G3 isn't as bad as a Samsung.

jhonyp said:
With stock based custom rom I don't have lag.
With aosp based rom is incredibly fast.
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Will I miss any good feature in AOSP? Is it completely stable?
diegodbm said:
I have both (actually my wife has the M8).
G3 pros
1) better camera
2) better screen
3) better in hand sensation
4) more updates (about 3 in 3 months)
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How's the performance between the two?
sofir786 said:
I really dont understand why people say theres lag in games? i have this phone and dont get any lag in games at all and im on a stock rom too, personally i think G3 is a better phone than the m8, screens bigger with great screen to bezel ratio, quality of the screen is better imo, battery life maybe isnt better as this phone has a bigger screen and higher resolution screen (btw watch a high def movie on the LG G3 and it looks amazing). i bought my LG G3 for £280 brand new sim unlocked, for that price you cant go wrong.
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Are you sure that every game runs smoothly on it? I'm asking because there's even a dedicated thread for reducing the lag.
razz1 said:
I think the screen on the G3 is really good. It's what I liked the first time I seen it. Not that it was big but because it looked so clear. I used to calibrate displays and I think overall its one of the best screens I've seen on a phone. It definitely lacks black level but makes up for it everywhere else. Sharpness is now modifiable.
-A modified G3 can reach the M8 in benchmarks so speed may be comparable.
-A modified G3 can reach 80fps in Quadrant benchmarks.
-The G3 has a good camera and great third party app.
My parents both have an M8 as per my suggestion. I think they are great phones but I'm not sorry for choosing the G3 for myself, except for those great speakers the M8 has. Those speakers are just awesome!
Overall the build quality is totally different between the two based on materials used but the G3 isn't as bad as a Samsung.
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Please be honest, if you were given a second chance, which one would you choose? Can I make the G3 run flawlessly as an HTC One M8 in everything?
I have a Nexus 7 2013 with a custom ROM and while it used to be fast, now it's not satisfactory for me. It's still fast, but I see some occasional stutter and games don't run smoothly. I don't need other slow device.

edios123 said:
Will I miss any good feature in AOSP? Is it completely stable?
How's the performance between the two?
Are you sure that every game runs smoothly on it? I'm asking because there's even a dedicated thread for reducing the lag.
Please be honest, if you were given a second chance, which one would you choose? Can I make the G3 run flawlessly as an HTC One M8 in everything?
I have a Nexus 7 2013 with a custom ROM and while it used to be fast, now it's not satisfactory for me. It's still fast, but I see some occasional stutter and games don't run smoothly. I don't need other slow device.
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Yes im sure, i play graphic intensive games such as Colin McRae rally, Dead Trigger 2, Nova 3. No lag, i do use a custom kernel though.

edios123 said:
Will I miss any good feature in AOSP? Is it completely stable?
How's the performance between the two?
Are you sure that every game runs smoothly on it? I'm asking because there's even a dedicated thread for reducing the lag.
Please be honest, if you were given a second chance, which one would you choose? Can I make the G3 run flawlessly as an HTC One M8 in everything?
I have a Nexus 7 2013 with a custom ROM and while it used to be fast, now it's not satisfactory for me. It's still fast, but I see some occasional stutter and games don't run smoothly. I don't need other slow device.
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M8 smoother, but I prefer g3.
There's something about it that I really love.

edios123 said:
Will I miss any good feature in AOSP? Is it completely stable?
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At the moment aosp based roms are on nightlys but stables versions are coming next days.
I miss camera quality and knock code

In all honest though you really need to ask yourself, how future proof are you these days anyway?
Chances are if you buy a new phone, it'll be outdated in a month because there will already be talks of a new model with a better processor and some revolutionary features.
Let's put it this way, I was in your situation a while ago too. I was using a Nexus 5 for a little over a year and just wanted something new. My first 2 choices were the M8 and the OnePlus one, then eventually I factored in the G3. It wasn't even on my radar to begin with!
In the end I chose the G3 because of the QHD screen, removable battery and microSD card support. Sure unibody phones look great, but I just have never liked the idea of the battery being sealed in. What if the battery you get is faulty? You'll need to replace the entire phone. Sure that's an extreme case but it can happen.
Take my post with a grain of salt because I don't value gaming performance, but with lollipop on the G3 it's plenty fast for me. I really don't think you can go wrong with either phone.

edios123 said:
Some reviews say G3 is better, some say M8 is better. So I can't decide on one.
The only thing holding me back from the G3 is the lag. I got into some G3 threads and it seems the phone really lags in gaming too. If the lag wasn't there, G3 was the better phone obviously. I can't wait for the G4 because I'm getting these for cheap.
I don't want lag in ANY game or app. :/
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What kind on game are you looking to run to see if i can download it and test it out? I don't do much gaming on the phone just cause i have no time to game on it, all i have are some pick up and play games that entertaing for like 5min
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edios123 said:
I'm getting a new phone soon, and I'm stuck between the LG G3 and HTC One M8. I know this is the G3 forum but I hope I'll get honest suggestions from here.
Can someone please honestly answer my questions:
1. Since I'm coming from the Moto X 2014, I need a fast enough and future proof (duh, till 2016 Jun) phone. I sold it because the screen was fragile, display was so yellowish to my liking, camera wasn't good, no dev support, poor headphone output, poor battery and tempered glass protectors won't even fit properly. My question is, is the G3 really fast enough for the period I stated above? I don't want any lag or frame rate issues on my phone, even with games like MC5 or any other GPU demanding game.
2. How's the battery of the phone? I know about the stock figures, but with a custom ROM, and custom kernel, how many SOT can you get?
3. How's the headphone output? Is it comparable to the One M8 after some tweaking?
4. I don't mind chaging the screen resolution to 1080p, but after changing it, is the phone completely stable? I don't need bugs or any stability issues.
I really like the G3 for its screen size and camera (camera isn't a big priority though), a GB of RAM extra, bezel less design. While, the HTC M8 is cheaper, with some good Harman Kardon earphones, much better speakers, better performance.
Help me out please!
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I was in a similar situation when I sold my Moto X due to the same issues you mentioned above, though it was primarily due to the hideous AMOLED screen on the MOTO X which had burn-in issues just after 20 days of usage. Even my replacement unit got that in mere 10 days. It was the navbar that was visible under white/grey backgrounds.
I chose G3 over M8 after trying them in Chroma and other retail stores:
1. Much better screen to body ratio. The bezels are extremely slim and the phone looks sexy. Compare that to the M8, its as tall as the G3 but that is to accommodate those boomsound speakers.
2. Though it has to power a higher resolution screen, the latter lasts me 1.5 to 2 days since I consider myself a light user. It'll easily last you a day even with heavy use.
3. Camera is awesome! M8 stands no chance with its ultrapixel cam. The focus is insanely fast due to the laser focus which may seem gimmiky unless you use it and see it for yourself.
4. Though plastic, its pretty well built.
5. Removable battery, personal preference after using the MOTO X.
6. Gorgeous screen and I'm sure you'll see the difference when you use it over 1080p screen.
7. After sales of LG is light years ahead than HTC in our country. People all over India curse HTC for opting a 3rd party vendor for its after sales service. I've had an instance when I had to deal with them and I made sure it was the last. I've used Nexus 4 and 5 and found LG's after sales to be much better and their repair cost is also reasonable.
8. LG has come a long way in dealing with S/W updates and they have bettered HTC and many other OEM's in this area. I'm pretty optimistic that we will receive an update to 6.0 or whatever they name it.
Some points to consider:
1. The lags that you hear/read about were of 4.4.4 days and LG has done a good job with 5.0 making it pretty much lag free.
2. You WILL notice the speed difference between near stock Android of Moto X over custom LG skin but its something that you'll get use to in a matter of days.
3. I've used M8 a couple of times in retail store and its a wee bit faster compared to G3.
4. Though it happens rarely, the LG screen fails to respond to touch inputs. It mostly happens in the lower bottom area and many have reported this. Since 5.0 update, this issue is almost gone and I've come across it only once after the update. No need to worry about it and its certainly not a deal breaker. I've been using the phone since Dec 2014 and have encountered this 4-5 times and only once after the 5.0 update.
5. M8 with its boomsound speakers is clearly a winner when it comes to audio quality but G3's audio aint puny either. It's got decent amount of punch and should be enough for daily usage unless you plan use your phone to watch a lot of videos/movies.
Hope the above helps you in deciding. Every phone has its own compromises/cons and eventually you need to decide which ones you can live with. Cheers! :highfive:

I owned both (M8 for a couple of months and G3 till now) and i can say G3 is clearly the winner out there.Theres a simple reason.
If you have checked the recent GMA (global mobile awards ) in category 5 (best mobile handsets ) there were 2 winners :
Apple iphone 6 + LG G3. I havent seen any samsung or nexus or htc devices . So i am glad that i kept my G3 .
The judges comments :
“Affordable excellence with winning design – its edge-to-edge screen offers the best quality mobile viewing experience around today.”

How much do you like your G4? 1-10? (Vote)

Just wanted to see how much people like their G4! I personally love mine and think its the best phone I've ever had so far.
I believe you need to be on computer browser to vote.
BTW, no root and twrp for the G4 H811 is driving me nuts, so this poll will keep me temporarily sane!

For me an 8.
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paulie72 said:
For me an 8.
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Please vote! I hadn't finished the poll before you posted!

9 for me. Love it.

I put 9 I guess based on the descriptions it's between a 9 and 10 for me, there are some small things that need to be improved like the missing taps on the touchscreen, terrible top pull down menu-everytime i scroll across I find myself accidentally turning off or on something I didn't want to, screen brightness at max level is a little underwhelming ...etc but nothing really deal breaking for me. Overall I'm satisfied with battery life.
I would not return this phone for anything else out there at the moment-that pretty much sums it up

officerdoofy said:
I put 9 I guess based on the descriptions it's between a 9 and 10 for me, there are some small things that need to be improved like the missing taps on the touchscreen, terrible top pull down menu-everytime i scroll across I find myself accidentally turning off or on something I didn't want to, screen brightness at max level is a little underwhelming ...etc but nothing really deal breaking for me. Overall I'm satisfied with battery life.
I would not return this phone for anything else out there at the moment-that pretty much sums it up
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Some of those thing could probaby be fixed with an update or custom rom.
My deal breaker was wireless charging. But now that I installed and modded a Chinese wireless sticker, that put the icing on the cake for me. Look for that thread if u want one.
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At an 8. Phone heats up kinda quick in my opinion. And i thought the battery would last alittle longer that it does

10 for me. Coming from a LG G3—>Note 4->Note 4 Edge->Nexus 6 to this phone. Im just waiting for the ordered skinomi glass screen protector and verus verge gold case. I got the gold plastic back version of the phone. Also waiting for Supershieldz glass protector， spigen carbon fiber case， i-blason prime case，and UAG ash case w/glass screen protector.

I'm an Lg loyalist in all my electronics. I loved the G2 and had none of the problems others had on the G3.. Until Tmo effed up lollipop, It was the best for me. I love the G4, but I honestly expected more, especially from the battery. Overall I am still happy with it and like the look, shape and feel better than the 3, but the G3 just ran better for me. I do love having smart lock and the other additions. I hate that they removed smart screen and Tmo again left off the user accounts though. I get better signal than my other phones so that's a plus. Who knows maybe this replacements battery will be better and I'll be happy, I have never been a custom rom kinda guy. I like the Lg stock experience and really just do a few simple mods and tweaks to fine tune it.

Phurkus said:
At an 8. Phone heats up kinda quick in my opinion. And i thought the battery would last alittle longer that it does
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Mine only gets hot when uploading to my google photos. Battery life seems better than my G2.
psygnosi said:
10 for me. Coming from a Nexus 6 to this phone. Im just waiting for the ordered glass screen protector and verus verge gold case. I got the gold plastic back version of the phone.
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I had that gold case. Looked very elegant but was too slipery for my taste. Ended up getting the gold Spigen Neo Hybrid case that has a nice grip to the back.
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Ehh not sure maybe 5. Coming from s3,and note 2, 3, 4. Maybe my hopez were a little high. Becore samsung i was huge htc guy. I was hoping to gdt away from sammy because i dont want anything that looks like and iphone. But my battery is terrible and i miss having a physical home button because when im in the camera app. I always seem to end going home. These may just be gripes i have. I really love the leather back and the bomb photos they have. Something is missing from my note4. I cant put my finger on it but i have two more weeks to figure out was it is
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I've been around the flagship block that last few years: Note 3, G3, 1+, note 4, Nexus 6 and now G4. I've been rather schizophrenic about it, the missed taps and studdering are my complaints, but I's sure a custom ROM will readily nix these, so I'm staying with the G4 to see what the note 5 will look like.
Rated it at 9....pretty damned spiffy.

given the criteria, I gave it a 10, I've had a tilt 2, LG T501, Amaze 4g, G2, G3 and now the G4 as well as the following work phones droid maxx, some other droid with a keyboard and LG gs4 and HTC one Mini. The LG G4 is better than all that have come before and I do love it.
Compared to the G3, better contrast/colors, camera, volume, battery life, BT audio in my car. If I had one complaint is that I don't care for the metallic boarder, it will eventually chip and look ugly for those that go without a case. while it's no game changer, it's a great evolution of the platform. now if it had the battery life of the G2 then I would give a 10+.

8.5

9.5 so i went with 9. Size is great and reception is phenomenal with lte going fast and bluetooth connection taking little time to connect. Could list positives for days.
Gripes:
#1 Auto brightness - indoors its too light in good artificial light and darkness. Makes viewing angles bad. Hopefully they can update it to be brighter. Outdoors is great.
#2 Concept software unpolished. There should be more smart options (work settings maybe or other setting options). Same goes with dual screen mode.. Limited apps.
#3 G4 bootloader struggle... I plan on having this a while but it sounds like a xda bounty mission.

LeaninBack916 said:
9.5 so i went with 9. Size is great and reception is phenomenal with lte going fast and bluetooth connection taking little time to connect. Could list positives for days.
Gripes:
#1 Auto brightness - indoors its too light in good artificial light and darkness. Makes viewing angles bad. Hopefully they can update it to be brighter. Outdoors is great.
#2 Concept software unpolished. There should be more smart options (work settings maybe or other setting options). Same goes with dual screen mode.. Limited apps.
#3 G4 bootloader struggle... I plan on having this a while but it sounds like a xda bounty mission.
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I give mine an 8. You can fix #1 above by using the free play store app lux lite

. delete

2. I'll most likely return it. My touchscreen misses taps (especially during knock code input), has issues charging, and isn't rooted (yet). I have the 810. I came from a note 3 which is a beast of a phone and I can't justify paying for this phone when the note is better in many areas. I'll miss the G4 camera, though.

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10 - if bootloader unlock is achieved
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9 For me as well. I love this phone. The only improvement could be the battery life for on screen time along with the restoration of functions removed by VZW. Aside from that, it's a great phone and personally I'm glad I had chosen it over the S6/S6 Edge.

Observations after a couple of weeks

After using the Idol 3 for a couple of weeks, I have the following observations.
Pros:
1) It is a very nice phone, especially considering the price.
2) Battery life is on par with most flagship phones if not better. I can get 5 hours SOT without turning anything off or down. (Considering most people on other phones are complaining about battery drain on Android 5.01/2 and everyone is hoping that 5.1 will fix this, our battery life may only get better)
3) The camera is quick taking shots and straight forward to use. (quality not so much)
4) The OS is simple with very little bloat ware.
5) Very good sound with the front facing speakers.
6) The phone is thin and light for a having a 2910 mAh battery in it.
7) The screen is very bright in direct sunlight. I use it outside a lot and enjoy using it without trying to find some shade.
Cons:
1) The camera is fast but only takes decent pictures. Although for this price one can't complain to much as it is on par of flagship phones a couple years old.
2) Double tap to wake seems to be a constant issue for many (myself included).
3) Only 1 update in the last 14 days. I was hoping for Alcatel to push out some updates quicker but only time will tell how well they do.
4) The phone isn't blazing fast but doesn't lag too much either so this is kind of neutral. Clearly the recent apps is choppy and slow but most performance is decent.
5) Very little in the way of accessories. I bought an ipad screen protector and cut it down to fit.(I can get 3 out of 1).
6) Development isn't there. Not sure if it will be as maybe the phone isn't popular enough or the root/boatloader issue my be part of that as well.
I had the Zenfone 2 and LG G3 and sold them both in favour of this phone. I have had almost every flag phone out there and thought I would play around with some lower priced devices and have been pleasantly surprised with this phone so far. 3 things for me to keep the phone as a daily driver for a little would be, the DTTW issue resolved, some development so I can have some fun flashing some roms, and update to Android M (or at least to 5.1 for some software improvements and extra battery life, but 5 hours of OST is good for me. I most likely will be keeping this phone as my backup once I do move on and will certainly keep an eye on Alcatel for future phones.

I agree 100% with what you said. Just waiting for an update to 5.1 (with some bug fixing) and I'd be very happy.
As for the camera, I'm coming from a Nexus 4. So this is a huge upgrade. I actually find that it takes pretty decent pictures in sunlight.

bryanbreguet said:
I agree 100% with what you said. Just waiting for an update to 5.1 (with some bug fixing) and I'd be very happy.
As for the camera, I'm coming from a Nexus 4. So this is a huge upgrade. I actually find that it takes pretty decent pictures in sunlight.
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I watched a review that stated the Zenfone 2 camera blew the idol 3 away.
My personal experience is completely the opposite. The Zenfone 2 camera was slow at focusing and unless you picked a shooting mode the auto setting was the worse choice.
I was spoiled with the note 4 and G3 cameras.

maddog497 said:
I watched a review that stated the Zenfone 2 camera blew the idol 3 away.
My personal experience is completely the opposite. The Zenfone 2 camera was slow at focusing and unless you picked a shooting mode the auto setting was the worse choice.
I was spoiled with the note 4 and G3 cameras.
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Completely agree with all you have written on your posts[emoji2] . I have the phone and love it, double tap works very well, apex launcher + Deactivated animations in dev menu is a must!
And to screen off the device apex + screen off app is fantastic!
Oh and I have tried the laggy g3, its sad screen and its bad battery life [emoji6] ..
I own the m8 because the m9 hasn't convinced me, vs the m8..
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I like it too. if somehow development are started I don't really care if Alcatel updates. hardware wise I'm sure this phone can do better than it is now.
therefore I'm only praying for everything to come together for developments of custom roms before everyone got fed up of Alcatel and leave this boat.
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maddog497 said:
After using the Idol 3 for a couple of weeks, I have the following observations.
Cons:
5) Very little in the way of accessories. I bought an ipad screen protector and cut it down to fit.(I can get 3 out of 1).
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There is a 3-pack of Mr Shield screen protectors on Amazon that fit the phone perfectly. They aren't the best quality (shows scratches pretty easily) but they have the cutout for the camera/light sensor.

mswguitar said:
There is a 3-pack of Mr Shield screen protectors on Amazon that fit the phone perfectly. They aren't the best quality (shows scratches pretty easily) but they have the cutout for the camera/light sensor.
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I ordered a glass screen protector a few days ago. I was notified yesterday that they are out so they are sending me 2 cheap ones for now and when the glass one comes in they will send it.

maddog497 said:
I ordered a glass screen protector a few days ago. I was notified yesterday that they are out so they are sending me 2 cheap ones for now and when the glass one comes in they will send it.
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Which glass one did you pick and how much?

famewolf said:
Which glass one did you pick and how much?
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I'll look it up and get back to you.

famewolf said:
Which glass one did you pick and how much?
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this one here
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/151705198907...49&var=450907160802&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Maddog, tell us how it is when you get them.
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thanks for listing all the cons and pros.
I read lots of people are waiting for updates . Hope Alcatel reacts fast.

1 update in 14 days is actually really good
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barondebxl said:
1 update in 14 days is actually really good
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I don't disagree but the update was on start up. Nothing after that. This is a budget phone and a great one at that. If they address a could issue this good be a decent daily driver.
I lost patients and moved on but still check the forum as it was an underdog and I was mostly pleased with it.
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maddog497 said:
I don't disagree but the update was on start up. Nothing after that. This is a budget phone and a great one at that. If they address a could issue this good be a decent daily driver.
I lost patients and moved on but still check the forum as it was an underdog and I was mostly pleased with it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/general/performance-update-t3154635

Ive had this since yesterday. Phone has great potential with custom roms. My biggest complaint is the serious lag issues. Id assume this is from 5.0.2 and the memory leak. The animations are choppy as hell. Otherwise great device.

fix-this! said:
Ive had this since yesterday. Phone has great potential with custom roms. My biggest complaint is the serious lag issues. Id assume this is from 5.0.2 and the memory leak. The animations are choppy as hell. Otherwise great device.
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5.0.2 is full of bugs, yeah. Not sure why phones would ship with that in the first place but meh. To have a smoother experience, enable dev options and set all animation scales to off or .5x.

In europe evertything runs just fine animations, app clearing, everything even in 5.0.2, what's your build number?

The design is what sold me. Super light weight and very good battery life. Speakers are very good and the lcd is better than my nexus 5 was. The only downside is the lag which im thinking is from the gpu drivers and 5.0.2. Custom roms could fix this.
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Enissay7 said:
In europe evertything runs just fine animations, app clearing, everything even in 5.0.2, what's your build number?
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Id say most users on here agree the animations lag like hell. You must be running some super seceret version of 5.0.2.

what is the phone charging time ? wonder if its Lion battery needs to be replaced faster than others' Lipo ?

Finally got my G5 delivered today

After much messing about from EE i finally got the phone delivered!
Th G5 isnt much different from the handset i had a chance to use the other week. I have started to sit down look at it and work my way through the phone and see how its different from the G4.
First thing most people have commented on is the lack of app draw theres launchers you can install true but if you look under home settings your see you can also use Google Now Launcher that will give you an app draw.
Battery life i will comment more on in a few days but its fast charging works well what i was pleased about unlike my other halfs 5X the USB cable with this is only USB C one side!
The screen is a nice clear screen seemed ok in bright light im not 100% sure its better than the G4 (which im not a fan of in bright light) but it seemed ok? Nice sensitive and responsive.
Camera...... to be fair and honest the primary camera isnt any different to what im using on the G4 i will gladly post some comparisons in the the photography thread in the next few days after a bit more scrutiny but for what i am seeing they are like for like?
The 8mp wide angle seemed better than the one i used in the shop theres less artifacting on the photos in darker aeras but its still not blowing me away. Panorama with the wide angle lense is subject to a lot of distortion and skewing of areas from what i am experiencing. The main camera with wide angle performs well though i seem to have more positive results going right to left than left to right. Is this a software issue in stitching that can be tweeked? I guess so?
My handset can shoot photos with some basic filters built in, the black and white photography was very nice and clean with good ratios of light and dark.
Still im not over impressed with the gimmick options for the photography, i would have been good to see LG use both cameras effectively together as well and individually. If they had took a leaf out of HTC's book and they could have gave us some very cool smart blur, bokeh effects and improved low light photography utilising both sensors for a composite on details at low light as well as faster shutter speeds.
I genuinely do feel LG have missed the boat or better start working hard to bring us more in future updates giving LG G5 users a much more bigger and impressive functionality of the camera/s. 2 cameras independently and no synchronised use seems a waste?
Sound seems nice and fairly loud, phone calls are audible enough though my complaint with that im not sure if theres some kind of issue with earphones but i tried my earphones on both the G4 and G5 and the sound by default was preferable with the G4, again im sure its something that can be tweaked in an update?
Please ask any questions you may have?

jamiee6610 said:
After much messing about from EE i finally got the phone delivered!
Th G5 isnt much different from the handset i had a chance to use the other week. I have started to sit down look at it and work my way through the phone and see how its different from the G4.
First thing most people have commented on is the lack of app draw theres launchers you can install true but if you look under home settings your see you can also use Google Now Launcher that will give you an app draw.
Battery life i will comment more on in a few days but its fast charging works well what i was pleased about unlike my other halfs 5X the USB cable with this is only USB C one side!
The screen is a nice clear screen seemed ok in bright light im not 100% sure its better than the G4 (which im not a fan of in bright light) but it seemed ok? Nice sensitive and responsive.
Camera...... to be fair and honest the primary camera isnt any different to what im using on the G4 i will gladly post some comparisons in the the photography thread in the next few days after a bit more scrutiny but for what i am seeing they are like for like?
The 8mp wide angle seemed better than the one i used in the shop theres less artifacting on the photos in darker aeras but its still not blowing me away. Panorama with the wide angle lense is subject to a lot of distortion and skewing of areas from what i am experiencing. The main camera with wide angle performs well though i seem to have more positive results going right to left than left to right. Is this a software issue in stitching that can be tweeked? I guess so?
My handset can shoot photos with some basic filters built in, the black and white photography was very nice and clean with good ratios of light and dark.
Still im not over impressed with the gimmick options for the photography, i would have been good to see LG use both cameras effectively together as well and individually. If they had took a leaf out of HTC's book and they could have gave us some very cool smart blur, bokeh effects and improved low light photography utilising both sensors for a composite on details at low light as well as faster shutter speeds.
I genuinely do feel LG have missed the boat or better start working hard to bring us more in future updates giving LG G5 users a much more bigger and impressive functionality of the camera/s. 2 cameras independently and no synchronised use seems a waste?
Sound seems nice and fairly loud, phone calls are audible enough though my complaint with that im not sure if theres some kind of issue with earphones but i tried my earphones on both the G4 and G5 and the sound by default was preferable with the G4, again im sure its something that can be tweaked in an update?
Please ask any questions you may have?
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Overal is it worth signing a 2 year contract to get this phone coming from a LG g4?

tallblazer124 said:
Overal is it worth signing a 2 year contract to get this phone coming from a LG g4?
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Only if you like myself was at the end of your contract and getting the phone for free like me or interested in the modular system? Its a great phone but the G4 is just as good without any of the extra bells and whistles in my opinion?
I loving the look of the phone but that dont make it work any better.

how is the gap with the modular part? I saw some unboxing and some have a big gap and they are very unhappy with that.

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how is the gap with the modular part? I saw some unboxing and some have a big gap and they are very unhappy with that.
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Mine is fine thanks

jamiee6610 said:
Mine is fine thanks
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mine is not bad at all. I've had the phone for about four days. Can't complain about it yet. But coming from a samsung, i wish i had the physical home button.

Fadman37 said:
mine is not bad at all. I've had the phone for about four days. Can't complain about it yet. But coming from a samsung, i wish i had the physical home button.
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Your get over that, personally I'm happy it don't have a home button.

i have a question: Possible that in UK only EE is shipping LG G5 ?
All other UK online store it seems don't ship nothing !!!!!!

LG G5 LED Notification
jamiee6610 said:
After much messing about from EE i finally got the phone delivered!
Th G5 isnt much different from the handset i had a chance to use the other week. I have started to sit down look at it and work my way through the phone and see how its different from the G4.
First thing most people have commented on is the lack of app draw theres launchers you can install true but if you look under home settings your see you can also use Google Now Launcher that will give you an app draw.
Battery life i will comment more on in a few days but its fast charging works well what i was pleased about unlike my other halfs 5X the USB cable with this is only USB C one side!
The screen is a nice clear screen seemed ok in bright light im not 100% sure its better than the G4 (which im not a fan of in bright light) but it seemed ok? Nice sensitive and responsive.
Camera...... to be fair and honest the primary camera isnt any different to what im using on the G4 i will gladly post some comparisons in the the photography thread in the next few days after a bit more scrutiny but for what i am seeing they are like for like?
The 8mp wide angle seemed better than the one i used in the shop theres less artifacting on the photos in darker aeras but its still not blowing me away. Panorama with the wide angle lense is subject to a lot of distortion and skewing of areas from what i am experiencing. The main camera with wide angle performs well though i seem to have more positive results going right to left than left to right. Is this a software issue in stitching that can be tweeked? I guess so?
My handset can shoot photos with some basic filters built in, the black and white photography was very nice and clean with good ratios of light and dark.
Still im not over impressed with the gimmick options for the photography, i would have been good to see LG use both cameras effectively together as well and individually. If they had took a leaf out of HTC's book and they could have gave us some very cool smart blur, bokeh effects and improved low light photography utilising both sensors for a composite on details at low light as well as faster shutter speeds.
I genuinely do feel LG have missed the boat or better start working hard to bring us more in future updates giving LG G5 users a much more bigger and impressive functionality of the camera/s. 2 cameras independently and no synchronised use seems a waste?
Sound seems nice and fairly loud, phone calls are audible enough though my complaint with that im not sure if theres some kind of issue with earphones but i tried my earphones on both the G4 and G5 and the sound by default was preferable with the G4, again im sure its something that can be tweaked in an update?
Please ask any questions you may have?
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Please let me know, does it have LED Notification or not.

herald1368 said:
Please let me know, does it have LED Notification or not.
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It has LED notifications yes
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mic141414 said:
how is the gap with the modular part? I saw some unboxing and some have a big gap and they are very unhappy with that.
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My gap is practically unnoticeable unless I look hard for it. I do notice it doesn't quite line up 100%, as in some of the lines resulting from where the bottom of the phone and the screen meet aren't exactly straight. However, it is so miniscule most users wouldn't notice. I'm extremely picky and I'm satisfied
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magnus0322 said:
It has LED notifications yes
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My gap is practically unnoticeable unless I look hard for it. I do notice it doesn't quite line up 100%, as in some of the lines resulting from where the bottom of the phone and the screen meet aren't exactly straight. However, it is so miniscule most users wouldn't notice. I'm extremely picky and I'm satisfied
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Ditto. It's not enough for me to return the device or even complain about.
As I've been using the phone more each day, I've come to really enjoy and appreciate the experience.
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wolfgart said:
i have a question: Possible that in UK only EE is shipping LG G5 ?
All other UK online store it seems don't ship nothing !!!!!!
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i think the have an exclusive period to launch the product before other providers? All the others start on the 8th of this month.

herald1368 said:
Please let me know, does it have LED Notification or not.
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Yes it does on the right side of the speaker

I am also about to pull the trigger on this. I currently have an LG G3 and use it for heavy gaming but its gettiing laggy with newer titles (even with root and optimizations) Do you guys think G5 and SD820 will last 24 months in terms of performance specially in gaming ? How do u find the screen compared to S7 and or G3 ? and finally can you post your opinions about battery life ?
Thanks

_ray_ said:
I am also about to pull the trigger on this. I currently have an LG G3 and use it for heavy gaming but its gettiing laggy with newer titles (even with root and optimizations) Do you guys think G5 and SD820 will last 24 months in terms of performance specially in gaming ? How do u find the screen compared to S7 and or G3 ? and finally can you post your opinions about battery life ?
Thanks
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I am not a gamer so I cannot comment on game performance, but the overall general performance of the phone compared to the G3 is significant. I also came from a G3 that was rooted and optimized a bit and bone stock, this G5 blows it away. The battery life is very similar to the G3 with the difference being for me as I am a battery swapper and always plugged a 100% charged battery in and the phone would stay on 100% for a considerable time before dropping battery. Unfortunately I don't have my spare battery and charger yet so the battery isn't staying fully charged nearly as long. At the same brightness levels, the G5 screen seems sharper and just looks better overall when I compare them side by side. Hope this is helpful.

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I am not a gamer so I cannot comment on game performance, but the overall general performance of the phone compared to the G3 is significant. I also came from a G3 that was rooted and optimized a bit and bone stock, this G5 blows it away. The battery life is very similar to the G3 with the difference being for me as I am a battery swapper and always plugged a 100% charged battery in and the phone would stay on 100% for a considerable time before dropping battery. Unfortunately I don't have my spare battery and charger yet so the battery isn't staying fully charged nearly as long. At the same brightness levels, the G5 screen seems sharper and just looks better overall when I compare them side by side. Hope this is helpful.
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Cheers m8. Those S7 vs G5 comparisons are really starting to make me think that G5 display is too dull. I will have to see it myself in person to decide now.

Does it look better in real life, I think it looks fugly from the videos
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gsw5700 said:
Does it look better in real life, I think it looks fugly from the videos
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I think it's nice IRL...for me, I focus too much on what I read (because I'm anxious to get the device) rather than the IRL experience. IRL it's just fine. It feels very light which I like but others have said feels cheap.

Is there a Better phone out there?

Ive had this S7 for a while but ive gotten bored of it, i use to have a Moto X Pure and the speakers on it were amazing but ive been wondering if theres anyphone worth switching to?

I just snagged a Pixel and spent a day with it. Nope. Decided to keep the S7 Edge. Camera and the whole experience were meh compared to the Edge

I love the S7 Dont get me wrong but i just dont see why its Reigning supreme in the smartphone market i was thinking of switching to the G5 or Nexus 6p

Mi Mix - 6Gb ram. 256GB ufs 2.0 storage. Usb type c. Snapdragon 821.
Or IPhone 7+. Achieves its fake 180k antutu benchmark score.
Or just wait for the S8 Edge. It will have sick specs.

Are you really asking this question in the S7Edge forum?

pabel101 said:
I love the S7 Dont get me wrong but i just dont see why its Reigning supreme in the smartphone market i was thinking of switching to the G5 or Nexus 6p
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Kidding right?
Build quality, display, camera are the best and water proofing, sd slot, look of the phone are awesome as well.
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pabel101 said:
I love the S7 Dont get me wrong but i just dont see why its Reigning supreme in the smartphone market i was thinking of switching to the G5 or Nexus 6p
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I just did the switch from my S7 edge to a Nexus 6p. I really can't stand all of the micro stutter touchwiz brings. Even though the 6p has worse specs it's much more fluid in every day use. The only thing I'm missing so far is the S7 edges battery life.

Yh, the micro stuttering is annoying. Don't know how Samsung manages to keep it with such a strong hardware, lol

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I just did the switch from my S7 edge to a Nexus 6p. I really can't stand all of the micro stutter touchwiz brings. Even though the 6p has worse specs it's much more fluid in every day use. The only thing I'm missing so far is the S7 edges battery life.
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I went from a year of using the 6P to the S7E. I don't notice any stutter or lag between those two. And the screen and battery life are so much better on the S7E. Grass is always greener and all, but the S7E does not take any kind of back seat to the 6P, in my experience. The 6P is a fine phone and all, not putting it down. But I like my S7E better.

Had the 6p but dual sim is mandatory for me.... sold
S7 edge and i was thinking grass is greener so jumped to G5 along with extra battery and cradle. Omg i couldn't stand the battery life going down watching videos and a constant worry that battery is going to die eeven though u have extra one but replacing is not easy.
I think moto z play looked goodbattery wise but then the camera...
So returned to s7e and am happy for another year
No more watching grass of any side

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I went from a year of using the 6P to the S7E. I don't notice any stutter or lag between those two. And the screen and battery life are so much better on the S7E. Grass is always greener and all, but the S7E does not take any kind of back seat to the 6P, in my experience. The 6P is a fine phone and all, not putting it down. But I like my S7E better.
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Each to their own of course. The 6p is better for me, I love using aosp based custom ROMs, something not possible on the s7e. The edge screen never worked perfectly for me either, sure it looks very cool but I ended up accidentally touching it with my palm all the time.
I'm going to miss the water proofing, but the front facing speakers on the 6p are also quite terrific.

I want to trade s7 for Mate 9, it's ok phone but tbh it has nothing that wow omfg, outside of good lowlight camera and ok battery life.

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Each to their own of course. The 6p is better for me, I love using aosp based custom ROMs, something not possible on the s7e. The edge screen never worked perfectly for me either, sure it looks very cool but I ended up accidentally touching it with my palm all the time.
I'm going to miss the water proofing, but the front facing speakers on the 6p are also quite terrific.
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Yep, if you feel you need to root and try different ROM's, the 6P is a better choice. The S7E is the first Android phone I have not wanted to root, mostly thanks to the Block-This app that blocks ads on non-rooted phones and better ways to get a good backup. I was never big into ROM's, so I don't miss being able to do that. I also won't miss the hassles that rooting can bring to the phone, like making it more difficult to update.

I tried the s7e for a few weeks. Then when I got the Moto Z Force the day it was released, I haven't touched the s7e since!
The Moto Z Force was a significant improvement over the s7e in terms of smoothness, battery life, overall build quality, and after heavy use - the Moto Z is only a little warm compared to the s7e. I added the battery pack, and my battery easily lasts over 24 hours with moderate use.
Just my 2¢

I had that Micro stutter issue also it was especially ANNOYING whenever you watched videos and the videos would freeze for 2 secs Every 5 secs. i had to constantly Wipe the phone or factory reset till it finally stopped.I know the Nexus6P is weaker spec wise but those speakers Are amazing (former moto X Pure user) and the 250 price tag are tempting

No lags here and a good score on antutu 147+ depending on your gov. 14 hrs netflix strait 18% battery left. Maybe get a good up to date optimised kernel.