Elemental x versus vegito kernel - Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers

Hi All,
On rooted stock, which would be the best best between Elemental X and Vegito Kernel. Also, is there another kernel which I could use which is as good as these?
Or rather, should I use any kernel at all? Now with the current Nougat OS becoming old slowly with the arrival of O, is there a solution wherein I can just root my device which is on Nougat without flashing a custom kernel?

Shonilchi said:
Hi All,
On rooted stock, which would be the best best between Elemental X and Vegito Kernel. Also, is there another kernel which I could use which is as good as these?
Or rather, should I use any kernel at all? Now with the current Nougat OS becoming old slowly with the arrival of O, is there a solution wherein I can just root my device which is on Nougat without flashing a custom kernel?
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Rooting stock nougat needs a custom kernel as for now.
Nobody knows what you're doing with your mobile so nobody can recommend you to the right kernel.
If you happy with your current setup, don't change anything. It's very subjective without testing on YOUR device/setup.
Don't mess with Android P. It's in beta and there will be enough changes when it will(hopefully) the g4plus.

For me ElementalX does the job that I need - root, lower the idle BigCPU count to 1, and change the max RGB values to 240,240,240 (fix my screen retention problem).
Is not too much else that is needed for the stock ROM.

SoNic67 said:
... lower the idle BigCPU count to 1
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I searched up and down the CPU settings in EX Kernel Manager but I didn't found such Option. Could you show me, where to find it? Thanks

5n00p3r said:
I searched up and down the CPU settings in EX Kernel Manager but I didn't found such Option. Could you show me, where to find it? Thanks
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you need to enable permissive SElinux on stock to use this

brundark said:
you need to enable permissive SElinux on stock to use this
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Thanks a lot. Done so and now it works.

Elemental X is better with performance and battery usage!

My 2 big cpus are nt working in ex kernel

Sohan456 said:
My 2 big cpus are nt working in ex kernel
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What EX Kernel version are you using?
If you're on v1.04 or v2.0.1, you can set the minimum number of big CPUs in EX Kernel Manager. By default, 2 big CPUs are sleeping but can come online for heavy tasks (so 2 min, 4 max). Or are you finding the 2 big cores that are sleeping are not waking up?
If you're running v2.0, then you can access similar controls with this post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75331969&postcount=1679

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Help! problem with Trinity kernel

My nexus 7 is rebooting after a while using trinity kernel. I'm in stock 4.2.1 and I had random reboots even when no it applying any kind of OC just the kernel's default settings! What can I do to prevent that from happening?
Flash a different kernel.
Not all tablets are created equal. Whereas one will play nice with a particular kernel, the very next one off the assembly line may not.
najaboy said:
Flash a different kernel.
Not all tablets are created equal. Whereas one will play nice with a particular kernel, the very next one off the assembly line may not.
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I flashed motley kernel without any oc and I still get random reboots. Should I go back to stock kernel?
jeff.murillo said:
I flashed motley kernel without any oc and I still get random reboots. Should I go back to stock kernel?
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i bet its an app causing it.
Don't know why I initially glanced over you being on 4.2.1. Random reboots are actually a known issue with 4.2.x due to a problem at the OS level. Essentially, anything that uses geolocation can inadvertently trigger a reboot. Apps such as HD Widgets have updated to use a workaround until Google themselves fixes the issue. In the meantime, the only certain way to avoid the reboots is to turn off location services or downgrade to 4.1.2.
Unfortunately, this bug isn't consistently reproducible, but it does affect the entire Nexus line of devices using 4.2 and 4.2.1.
najaboy said:
Don't know why I initially glanced over you being on 4.2.1. Random reboots are actually a known issue with 4.2.x due to a problem at the OS level. Essentially, anything that uses geolocation can inadvertently trigger a reboot. Apps such as HD Widgets have updated to use a workaround until Google themselves fixes the issue. In the meantime, the only certain way to avoid the reboots is to turn off location services or downgrade to 4.1.2.
Unfortunately, this bug isn't consistently reproducible, but it does affect the entire Nexus line of devices using 4.2 and 4.2.1.
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Thanks buddy, with motley kernel I've just had 1 reboot. I'm going to test turning location services off and see what happens. BTW any idea how to oc the GPU in motley kernel? in trickster mod there's no option for it.
jeff.murillo said:
Thanks buddy, with motley kernel I've just had 1 reboot. I'm going to test turning location services off and see what happens. BTW any idea how to oc the GPU in motley kernel? in trickster mod there's no option for it.
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is ocing the gpu enabled in motley kernel? it has to be a feature of the kernel to be able to do it, an app cant do it if the kernel doesnt include the mod.
simms22 said:
is ocing the gpu enabled in motley kernel? it has to be a feature of the kernel to be able to do it, an app cant do it if the kernel doesnt include the mod.
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According to the kernels features, it supports GPU oc
jeff.murillo said:
According to the kernels features, it supports GPU oc
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the kernel might use a different method than the one the app "knows". for an example, cm color control with trinity kernel on the gnex. both cm and trinity have color control enabled, but since cm uses a different method of color control, you cant use the native cm rom color control option with trinity kernel, nor can you use the trinity kernel toolbox to control color on a cm rom/kernel. as they say, theres more than one way to skin a cat.
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the kernel might use a different method than the one the app "knows". for an example, cm color control with trinity kernel on the gnex. both cm and trinity have color control enabled, but since cm uses a different method of color control, you cant use the native cm rom color control option with trinity kernel, nor can you use the trinity kernel toolbox to control color on a cm rom/kernel. as they say, theres more than one way to skin a cat.
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That's what I thought, any idea how to do it in motley kernel?
jeff.murillo said:
That's what I thought, any idea how to do it in motley kernel?
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honestly i dont, id assume that motley used francos method since thats the most popular way. you should probably ask in the motley thread. but for some reason, i dont think it does, not the 4.2.1 kernel at least. maybe he just didnt update his op to reflext this. ask in the thread anyways

Note 3 N9005 cant overclock processor

Hi guys, fairly new to modding my phone, have tried a few different roms and kernels over the last week, and have sort of settled on cyanogen CM12.1 lolliop 5.1.1. with the kernel that comes with the rom. I've been seeing a few posts/roms that claim its possible to overclock the processor to 2.7ghz now I've tried to install synapse, and stweaks neither of which seem compatible, so I have kernel adiutor installed, but the max frequency it will offer me is 2,3 ghz, am I missing something? can't seem to find any info, can anyone point me in the right direction please
prophotoboy said:
Hi guys, fairly new to modding my phone, have tried a few different roms and kernels over the last week, and have sort of settled on cyanogen CM12.1 lolliop 5.1.1. with the kernel that comes with the rom. I've been seeing a few posts/roms that claim its possible to overclock the processor to 2.7ghz now I've tried to install synapse, and stweaks neither of which seem compatible, so I have kernel adiutor installed, but the max frequency it will offer me is 2,3 ghz, am I missing something? can't seem to find any info, can anyone point me in the right direction please
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No apps can overclock if the kernel doesn't support the overclock.
Not all phones can can reach so high overclock.
Get arters kernel for cm12.1. Or use cm12.1 by temasek which supports up to 2.5
Thanks for the advise, I'm going to install arters kernel now and see what happens
I installed the arter kernel, and still no overclocking, also reduced my Antutu bench from 45403 down to 3400ish, so gone back to cm12.1 kernel for now. any ideas why I can't increase mas cpu speed?
Maybe it doesn't support till 2.7GHz. Try different kernel
Sent from my SM-N9005
prophotoboy said:
I installed the arter kernel, and still no overclocking, also reduced my Antutu bench from 45403 down to 3400ish, so gone back to cm12.1 kernel for now. any ideas why I can't increase mas cpu speed?
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Look at the kernel settings.
kenny1991 said:
Look at the kernel settings.
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Thanks Kenny, how can I do that? and is it possible to change something in the code to make it overclockable?
prophotoboy said:
Thanks Kenny, how can I do that? and is it possible to change something in the code to make it overclockable?
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What do you see with fauxlock?
kenny1991 said:
What do you see with fauxlock?
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https://onedrive.live.com/redir?res...87&authkey=!AH4EamXAkgxBxeg&ithint=folder,png
Ok. well I have an update, I flashed the kitkat 4.4 liquid smooth rom yesterday, and that allowed me to overclock the cpu but unfortunatly, even overclocked it was slower than Tamasks cm12.1 rom, I also tried the liquid smooth lollipop rom, but again, it didn't allow me to overclock the cpu, it was faster than the kitkat rom, but still not as fast as the cm12.1 so I've gone back to that for now. Its looking like something to do with the lollipop version of android thats stopping the cpu from being overclocked....
Hm strange

dude for one custom rom?

Because that, there are so many custom rom that you choose. Which would you choose?
I'm on revivorOS because stock gives me more battery fuel. Overclocked cpu with elementalx kernel and viperarise audio mod.
PureNexus with elementalX kernel works best for me...
DU + ElementalX + Lightning Blade
du??thank you
ruperxl89 said:
du??thank you
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Look at my signature.
thank you, i going to look it
i havent got telegram thenexus, where can i fount this rom??
and the who have elementalX kernel, what config have¿
ruperxl89 said:
and the who have elementalX kernel, what config have¿
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You can find DU at devs-base.
As for ElementalX I disable all memory killers, disable the 4 big cores, and use the interactive governor tweaks as described here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2769899
negusp said:
You can find DU at devs-base.
As for ElementalX I disable all memory killers, disable the 4 big cores, and use the interactive governor tweaks as described here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2769899
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Great info, btw is there any way you could share with us the settings you found best for our device?
ruperxl89 said:
Because that, there are so many custom rom that you choose. Which would you choose?
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I use LineageOS with this Pixel mod which works great! https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/themes/lineageos14-1-pixel-theme-moto-g4-plus-t3544590 The performance is smooth. Decent battery life. (Better than stock) and every other week I get an update!
I was also testing lineage OS but I saw that for a month that does not update and now I'm testing jx creampie odexed, by facor write what you use to give me ideas
Xenonhd ex kernel no overclock lightning blade ex profile

Best kernel for LOS OnePlus 5?

Best kernel for LOS OnePlus 5?
Battery/Performance
It's not about the Kernel, it's how you set it up.
Try boeffla kernel, very great battery and performance
stock kernal
stock kernel but i would like to change to the best, how is franco kernel guys?
Maaalx said:
stock kernel but i would like to change to the best, how is franco kernel guys?
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I don't think franco released a Lineage kernel yet.
olujnap316 said:
Try boeffla kernel, very great battery and performance
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But boeffla is only for stock, no?
Bluespark
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andrejd1 said:
But boeffla is only for stock, no?
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So far yes.
I'm pretty sure he is waiting for an official Lineage build to act as a base for his Lineage kernel.
With LOS from what I have experienced on my oneplus 5T it depends on the revision... I am running AICP based some on LOS and with firmware 5.1. The simpler kernels seemed to be better performers overall. Alot of old kernel stuff we used to do in low ram slow processor days doesnt make as much of a difference that I could see. Overclocking , meh underclocking I read setting the big cluster or gold cluster to 1958 max helps. not sure I noticed alot of difference. No reason to mess with voltage,
All the ones I tried NONE affected audio volume at all even though most have options for it.
Flash kernel works fine seemed to boot fast, no reboots issues. Same version has worked on the last months of changes , has noop,deadline, cfq,bfq, and maple)
Franken worked fine also, I/O has noop, deadline,cfq,bfq,
EX Flar2's worked also (though the version the app gets you dont see on his download page) has a few more features (i.e. more choices in governors , I/O options)
Madys and singularity booted but had different issues. one had stuttering on the sound the other alot of pauses. Alot of options. Long boot time also compared to above mentioned ones.
Blu_spark didnt boot on my latest nightly. And I used his custom R11 version (newest I saw on his download page on XDA) Really want to try it out but didnt boot. Will play more with that and try again later.
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Also, EX kernel manager, KA-Mod reborn, and kernel manager for Franco Kernel all worked on all of them,
KA-Mod lets you rename your device in the app (that you can do elsewhere in the rom also, ) so your phone shows up on bluetooth with a unique custom name.
Franco Kernel Manager has per app profiles, light color shift for night etc, and ALOT of tweaks and even a page to suggest other apps to improve batter life. I paid for Franco and that is what I am sticking with. If you run Franco's kernel it will update and flash it for you
EX kernel manager also will update and flash their kernel.

[Discussion] Favourite Kernel and Why ?

We have another post for ROM. Why do we not have another post for Kernel ?
As we can see, we have more than 5 kernels that are from XDA developer or someone else. But which one is really good for your ROM and which one still keep updating ?
I have been using OP5T for 2 months. Have used so many kernels but i still got stuck in those and do not know which is more stable. I am planning to use the kernel from Blu_Spark. Is that good ?
Post your favourite kernel and tell everybody why you use that. It will help newbie to pick what they want.
I am using Flash kernel at the moment but I have already tried Blu, franko, arter, ElementalX etc, but honestly for me it's difficult to see any difference since this phone have already a great battery life and great speed. On my previous phone (S8) the custom kernel gives a big advantage since the phone have tons of bloat and and isn't running stock like Android.
vvt4994 said:
We have another post for ROM. Why do we not have another post for Kernel ?
As we can see, we have more than 5 kernels that are from XDA developer or someone else. But which one is really good for your ROM and which one still keep updating ?
I have been using OP5T for 2 months. Have used so many kernels but i still got stuck in those and do not know which is more stable. I am planning to use the kernel from Blu_Spark. Is that good ?
Post your favourite kernel and tell everybody why you use that. It will help newbie to pick what they want.
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I have tried Blu and Franco for now and both have been very good. I really think kernel performance depends on the combo with the ROM as well as your device. I'm on Liquid Remix with Franco currently but I may give Resurrection Remix a try with Flash. If I had more time, I'd flash every ROM with every kernel to get a feel for all the possibilities LOL. :good:
For me Franco and flash kernel are the Best.... Now with ob3 with Franco kernel
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Did the Franco improve battery or performance? Someone Tried the Boeffla?
At the moment, both Flash Kernel and RenderKernel are great options in my opinion. I have tried most of the other kernels on xda and if you are looking specifically for smoothness/speed, these are the two you should test first. I do not run battery cycles; everyones daily use scenario really differs too much.
Flash Kernel currently has some kernel features I need (Kcal support & wakelock blocker) while RenderKernel does not have these features quite yet. While it lacks in some features, RenderKernel is undoubtedly the smoothest kernel for 5T right now.
I am on a 5T with OOS 5.0.3.
I like Franco but recently some custom ROMs have WIFI cannot turn on problem after I flash Franco kernel.
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(Don't blame any devs here just sharing.)
crashazz33 said:
At the moment, both Flash Kernel and RenderKernel are great options in my opinion. I have tried most of the other kernels on xda and if you are looking specifically for smoothness/speed, these are the two you should test first. I do not run battery cycles; everyones daily use scenario really differs too much.
Flash Kernel currently has some kernel features I need (Kcal support & wakelock blocker) while RenderKernel does not have these features quite yet. While it lacks in some features, RenderKernel is undoubtedly the smoothest kernel for 5T right now.
I am on a 5T with OOS 5.0.3.
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Where can I download flash kernel?
mo123456789 said:
Where can I download flash kernel?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/development/op5t-flash-kernel-v2-15-1-t3729330/page34
I haven't really played around with Kernel choices much.
I use and appreciate the professionalism of ElementalX kernel.
With it's options to adjust for extreme brightness, it quickly became a favorite a couple years ago and I've just stuck with it since.
Now most devs are adding high brightness to their kernels.
I guess I can start checking other kernels out.
I do like that ElementalX stays very stockish, reliable.
I can pretty much flash it and feel confident nothing weird will pop up over the next few days.
CZ Eddie said:
I haven't really played around with Kernel choices much.
I use and appreciate the professionalism of ElementalX kernel.
With it's options to adjust for extreme brightness, it quickly became a favorite a couple years ago and I've just stuck with it since.
Now most devs are adding high brightness to their kernels.
I guess I can start checking other kernels out.
I do like that ElementalX stays very stockish, reliable.
I can pretty much flash it and feel confident nothing weird will pop up over the next few days.
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ElementalX, Franco, and flash were all my go-to kernels back in the 6p days (just a few months ago, lol), so it's hard to pick, especially since they all ended up on the 5t. Right now I'm on exkernel though I am partial to flash. Battery life is amazing on all 3, but the overclock on ex just adds that extra bit of smoothness that I've never experienced before. Call it placebo but I just love this kernel (exkernel).
any more input?
im curious to know if fsync affects battery performance at all, can someone also test this out if you are on a kernel that enables disabling the fsync feature
virtyx said:
any more input?
im curious to know if fsync affects battery performance at all, can someone also test this out if you are on a kernel that enables disabling the fsync feature
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Tried it but didn't notice any difference.
Technically it should improve performance when using the phone, but it won't be noticeable.
boeffla
simple and steady, close to stock for daily using.
blu_spark, always on the Fastlane. ?
Does flashing a custom kernel solves Google play services battery drain?
Do I need custom recovery and root to flash a custom kernel? I'm not willing to play with kernel adiutor so I'm not really interested in rooting
luws said:
Does flashing a custom kernel solves Google play services battery drain?
Do I need custom recovery and root to flash a custom kernel? I'm not willing to play with kernel adiutor so I'm not really interested in rooting
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Custom kernel has nothing to do with google play services. You need custom recovery to flash a kernel, but most kernels for op5t are "flash & forget" which mean there is no reason to change the setting of the kernel.
Sent from my ONEPLUS 5T
vagkoun83 said:
Custom kernel has nothing to do with google play services. You need custom recovery to flash a kernel, but most kernels for op5t are "flash & forget" which mean there is no reason to change the setting of the kernel.
Sent from my ONEPLUS 5T
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maybe not Google play services specifically, but with my latest phone (zuk z2), kernel was directly related to deep sleep
stock OOS/kernel has a serious issue with Google PS in terms of deep sleep. Besides that, I dont feel any need to flash a custom kernel. SOT is incredible already, and performance is really fluid.
luws said:
maybe not Google play services specifically, but with my latest phone (zuk z2), kernel was directly related to deep sleep
stock OOS/kernel has a serious issue with Google PS in terms of deep sleep. Besides that, I dont feel any need to flash a custom kernel. SOT is incredible already, and performance is really fluid.
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If you are OK then there is no need to flash a kernel. If an app is crap (like Google services or facebook) the kernel can't do miracles and its not kernels job to control wakelocks of user apps
Sent from my ONEPLUS 5T
I keep changing between blu and new kernel
Not sure which to stick with but I think new kernel gives me a bit more battery

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