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DZ Successor - my experience

Hello guys. I was using DZ for a long time (jul 2011 - dec 2012) and got it replaced by a "standard" phone without keyboard - Xperia Ion. After almost a year of suffering without hardware keyboard I recently imported Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G (SGH-T699) from USA.
My experience:
1) you can import Galaxy S Relay 4G to Europe without no problem, it runs on GSM/HSDPA networks and has a SIM card slot (Important!)
2) I bought it via ebay.com, in used state but with real pictures of the device and in perfect state. The costs were $125 for the phone + $39 international priority shipping + cca $35 import charges (customs and VAT - 20% in Slovakia).
3) The import charges were charged with the payment and I didn't even know about the customs process, the courier just brought me the phone. That's a plus for ebay when importing from outside EU.
4) The phone was unfortunately locked (even if the seller stated it as unlocked). But after downgrade to ICS it can be unlocked in few minutes.
5) The US charger is no use in Europe, but you can charge it with any other charger, I'm using 1500mA charger from Sony now or 1000mA from HTC. Or you can even use the original charger with travel adapter, but it's uncomfortable, your choice however.
6) The stock firmware is bloated, half of the apps installed are called "T-mobile something" If you like Samsung android environment, you can debloat it manually after rooting, but I suppose most of xda guys will flash CM11 - it's now pretty stable even in experimental state. Honestly, I've been using much more unstable roms as dd...
7) The stock rom has only few languages (en, de, es, fr), but custom roms have full list of languages.
I was considering also Moto Photon Q, but it lacks sim card slot. It can be done, there's a step by step guide on xda to solder a sim card slot. Even the guy from Prague (author of the guide) could do it personally. But I chose the easier way and got the Samsung S Relay. There are no other GSM qwerty android phones usable in Europe.
To moderators: I saw a similar thread that was closed as not related to Desire Z. I must disagree, a DZ successor is a DZ related thread, as the device is pretty old and most of owners are looking for a decent successor. Just wanted to share my personal experience. If you wish, you can move this post to the closed thread, I wouldn't mind But please, don't delete it, in my opinion it contains useful information that definitely has to be found in DZ section. thanks

I also imported one. 180 $ + import tax (new one).
The default rom is pretty decent compared to htc sense, cm10 is much faster than on the desire Z (multitask 10-15 apps: no problem).
The keyboard isn't that good as the one from the desire Z, but you have to get used to it. I have 22Mb as max speed at home (10Mb desire Z) on 3G+.

Looks good and price is good. Was this the only keyboarded Android you looked at or are there other comparable?

brainless00 said:
Looks good and price is good. Was this the only keyboarded Android you looked at or are there other comparable?
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I was considering Motorola Photon Q (without SIM card slot, count plus 50 euro and 2x postage to CZ). This model is the only one suitable with SIM card and support for European networks.
In the meantime LG F3Q was announced. Look at the specs http://www.phonearena.com/phones/LG-Optimus-F3Q_id8243
Maybe it's also worth considering, but I don't like it very much at first look, but it has 2460mAh battery. I'm not sure about the SIM card slot, but as it's on TM USA, it should have defnitely one.

sorgo said:
I was considering Motorola Photon Q (without SIM card slot, count plus 50 euro and 2x postage to CZ). This model is the only one suitable with SIM card and support for European networks.
In the meantime LG F3Q was announced. Look at the specs http://www.phonearena.com/phones/LG-Optimus-F3Q_id8243
Maybe it's also worth considering, but I don't like it very much at first look, but it has 2460mAh battery. I'm not sure about the SIM card slot, but as it's on TM USA, it should have defnitely one.
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thx for link... the blue keyboard looks strange... the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G looks better

brainless00 said:
thx for link... the blue keyboard looks strange... the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G looks better
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I went to a T-Mobile store and look at the actual phone today.
It looks better in hands than on the photo.

brainless00 said:
thx for link... the blue keyboard looks strange... the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G looks better
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there are versions with silver and black keyboard too...

To order one from Canada to Europe: http://www.canadagsm.ca/products-LG-Optimus-F3Q-Penta-Band-LTE. 2G and 3G should work; 4G not.
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Could this be real: http://442kitkat.senuke.info/mp3-0/lg-optimus-f3q-5998.html?

brainless00 said:
there are versions with silver and black keyboard too...
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Are you sure about that ? I thought that was only an early concept.

santimaster2000 said:
Are you sure about that ? I thought that was only an early concept.
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I went to T-Mobile store the other day and I don't think they have that version, at least not for the US market.

santimaster2000 said:
Are you sure about that ? I thought that was only an early concept.
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I only saw pictures... so you could be right

I am still dreaming of a flagship android with hardware keyboard... the LG looks fine, but 1Gb of ram in 2014 is too little. The biggest limitation of the DZ is by far its ~360Mb of ram...

for me,i have imported Huawei U8730,better CPU/GPU,better RAM and bigger screen than HTC DZ

nebu_06 said:
I am still dreaming of a flagship android with hardware keyboard... the LG looks fine, but 1Gb of ram in 2014 is too little. The biggest limitation of the DZ is by far its ~360Mb of ram...
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me too

Huawei's presence in your country

I've just had a wander down Oxford St in London (a famous shopping street in London for those of you that aren't aware) and went in to the local carphonewarehouse. What surprised me was that there was a big section dedicated to Huawei phones yet the mate 7 wasn't there?! It's a shame that probably their best phone to date (imo) isn't being actively pushed in the UK.
Has anyone else seen a working model in a retail outlet in their own country (or the UK)?

Yes, in my country Pakistan all big malls have Huawei retail outlet and mate7 is available along with their other phones.
Mate7 is also available in small stores.
Sent from my HUAWEI MT7-L09 using XDA Free mobile app

Huawei has started some very aggressive marketing strategies in my country Nigeria. Preordered my mate 7, dual SIM, came with magic case, powerbank and a talkband equipped with a Bluetooth headset.
Really nice and secured phone.
Cheers
Sent from my HUAWEI MT7-TL10 using XDA Free mobile app

Fellow Nigerian here. Does this phone work with Smile 4G LTE?

in electronic stores here or phone opertors store, The P7 is very common however the Mate 7 is still very rare to see in any physical store, however there is plenty of online stores in sweden which sold in a lot of major online stores.

Re:
Huawei's present here in France. Mobile phones are available in many retail outlets. For warranty issues, there are many repair centers which are officially supported by Huawei, repairing the handset within 40 minutes (if all parts are available, repair is free if the handset is still under warranty)!
Bouygues Telecom has officially launched the 4G+ network and agreements have been made to sell the Huawei Mate 7 through this operator, since it's the only branded phone supporting 4G+ (with the SGS5).
Apart from Bouygues' official shop, I haven't seen the HM7 in a shop. Many French websites are selling it (amazon.fr, rueducommerce, materiel.net etc...)
Even if Huawei is well based in France (R&D, Presence in retail outlets, offices, repair centers), it's still a not-so-well-known company here. Well, more known as PSG's sponsor!

I haven't seen them actively selling or promoting their phones here in The Netherlands. It's Samsung, Sony or Apple in most stores...

John Kester said:
Huawei has started some very aggressive marketing strategies in my country Nigeria. Preordered my mate 7, dual SIM, came with magic case, powerbank and a talkband equipped with a Bluetooth headset.
Really nice and secured phone.
Cheers
Sent from my HUAWEI MT7-TL10 using XDA Free mobile app
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Fellow Nigerian here. Does this phone work with Smile 4G LTE?

abbas said:
Fellow Nigerian here. Does this phone work with Smile 4G LTE?
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Yes Abbas It sure Works with Smile 4G I will upload a screen shot later. Even Spectranet
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John Kester said:
Huawei has started some very aggressive marketing strategies in my country Nigeria. Preordered my mate 7, dual SIM, came with magic case, powerbank and a talkband equipped with a Bluetooth headset.
Really nice and secured phone.
Cheers
Sent from my HUAWEI MT7-TL10 using XDA Free mobile app
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I got the same in my Package at the Ikeja Mall Amazing device I must say. can't wait for a custom rom like CM or anything that will give me Lollipop on it

aiadegbite said:
Yes Abbas It sure Works with Smile 4G I will upload a screen shot later. Even Spectranet
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I got the same in my Package at the Ikeja Mall Amazing device I must say. can't wait for a custom rom like CM or anything that will give me Lollipop on it
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Thanks, mine does not work with Smile. I do not know why.

abbas said:
Thanks, mine does not work with Smile. I do not know why.
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You have to create an APN for it You will have to tick it and enable the SIM. Not sure of the exact values in the APN. For Spectranet it is empty, For Swift It is lte.swift.com.ng I will get that of Smile for you in a bit

aiadegbite said:
You have to create an APN for it You will have to tick it and enable the SIM. Not sure of the exact values in the APN. For Spectranet it is empty, For Swift It is lte.swift.com.ng I will get that of Smile for you in a bit
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Thank you, I will be grateful. I'm based in Ibadan and we have only Smile for 4G.

In Italy Huawei is very famous . Mate7 is available in all electronics store and also in a lots of online store

Suspicious outrageously cheap LG G2 seller, legit?

As the title suggests,
Came across a company called cell-plaza on ebay who are based in Hong Kong selling lots of high end phones, all brand new, for what seems to be very cheap prices.
Details:
Description: NEW LG G2 D801 4G LTE Quad-Core 32GB 13MP Android Mobile Phone- Black (Unlocked)
Price: £141.00
Link: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281435055233?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Has anyone had any experience with this company, or can you spot anything suspicious about them?
I've already made the purchase, hoping for the best.
I've been stung by clones & knock off's before, but I've never seen an LG G2 clone before.
Thanks.

If you read the negative feedbacks on ebay you foud that probably they sent you a refurbished phone and probably without warranty. But the price made the deal..
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Hope it works out for you, man. The negative feedback is a bit discouraging, especially the one that says something about changing feedback in order to get refund!
But let us know how it works out for you. I'm thinking at worst (based on feedback) you have a 4 in 5 chance of getting a working phone.

Did it arrive?
Hi, did you receive this phone OK? I'm contemplating buying one myself.
Thanks

alot of negative feedback thats not good... before you flash anything search for refurbished thread and make sure oyu know wich model variant you get by looking on the motherboard otherways youll brick your phone if you wish to flash new rom even root i think..

that is the normal price of a SECOND hand G2 in my country.

gunna be selling my vs980 for 150 on ebay =D

siggey said:
If you read the negative feedbacks on ebay you foud that probably they sent you a refurbished phone and probably without warranty. But the price made the deal..
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98.9% Positive Feedback

leethedon1 said:
Has anyone had any experience with this company, or can you spot anything suspicious about them?
I've already made the purchase, hoping for the best.
Thanks.
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Well, now that I have received my G2 from them, I can share some of my experience. I live in USA and good ATT LTE performance is crucial to me. The company sold the ATT D800 version on ebay as new for about $165 bucks, which I think is a fair price for a previous generation fragship phone sold by a shoddy HK company considering that $200 buys me a brand new ASUS Zenfone 2 or Zenfone 2 Laser here in USA with full warranty and all.
The phone arrived two weeks later in the original cardboard packaging sealed in plastic. The phone case looked brand new, no scratches or any signs of use or abuse. I removed the back cover and looked inside. Inside was the original LG battery produced in 2013 and D800 printed on the case. The printed IMEI number matches what is reported by the software, and corresponds to the ATT D800 model. The phone works fine and has already installed two OTA updates, upgrading KitKat 4.4.2 to Lollipop.
Next, I installed the LTE discovery app to snoop around on which LTE bands my G2 is using. Depending on my location in the neighborhood, the bands were switching between Band 2 and the all-crucial Band 17, which confirms I indeed got the D800 for the ATT LTE network. Finally, I have run Geekbench 3 benchmark app repeatedly and the consistent scores of 900+ and 2500+ (single-core and multi-core) are in line with the benchmarks published in many online reviews of G2.
HOWEVER, the printed manual inside the box, talks about LG-P920 which corresponds to an entirely different LG phone, which does point to some kind of shoddy vendor activity.
Either way, I feel pretty happy having purchased an LG2 that looks like new and works like new for just $165 bucks. For me it's a stopgap phone until the Snapdragon 820 devices arrive. The only thing that disappoints me is having just 32GB of storage. I have a music collection that takes up something like 200GB in lossless format, and even converted to a high bit rate MP3, 32GB is just barely not enough. I wish there was an SD card slot. In retorspect, the SD801-based 64GB Oneplus One that's now sold for only $300 USD may have been a better choice. Also, the LG GUI is ok, but not as nice as the Cyanogen OS on a Oneplus One phone. The LG GUI looks ok, it is something like made by geeks, for other geeks. The poor wallpaper collection and the lack of themes is appalling, but fixable. The phone looks like a keeper to me. I look forward to testing the camera performance and trying Cyanogenmod.

Get yourself a tiny Micro sd card reader by Meenova for 10.00 and a 128GB Samsung Micro SDXC Card (can be found under 40 this week due to cyber Monday Week deals if you google slickdeals.net) and you'll be more than set!
I'm using the Samsung 64GB Pro Micro SDXC Card and its amazing.
Akopps said:
Well, now that I have received my G2 from them, I can share some of my experience. I live in USA and good ATT LTE performance is crucial to me. The company sold the ATT D800 version on ebay as new for about $165 bucks, which I think is a fair price for a previous generation fragship phone sold by a shoddy HK company considering that $200 buys me a brand new ASUS Zenfone 2 or Zenfone 2 Laser here in USA with full warranty and all.
The phone arrived two weeks later in the original cardboard packaging sealed in plastic. The phone case looked brand new, no scratches or any signs of use or abuse. I removed the back cover and looked inside. Inside was the original LG battery produced in 2013 and D800 printed on the case. The printed IMEI number matches what is reported by the software, and corresponds to the ATT D800 model. The phone works fine and has already installed two OTA updates, upgrading KitKat 4.4.2 to Lollipop.
Next, I installed the LTE discovery app to snoop around on which LTE bands my G2 is using. Depending on my location in the neighborhood, the bands were switching between Band 2 and the all-crucial Band 17, which confirms I indeed got the D800 for the ATT LTE network. Finally, I have run Geekbench 3 benchmark app repeatedly and the consistent scores of 900+ and 2500+ (single-core and multi-core) are in line with the benchmarks published in many online reviews of G2.
HOWEVER, the printed manual inside the box, talks about LG-P920 which corresponds to an entirely different LG phone, which does point to some kind of shoddy vendor activity.
Either way, I feel pretty happy having purchased an LG2 that looks like new and works like new for just $165 bucks. For me it's a stopgap phone until the Snapdragon 820 devices arrive. The only thing that disappoints me is having just 32GB of storage. I have a music collection that takes up something like 200GB in lossless format, and even converted to a high bit rate MP3, 32GB is just barely not enough. I wish there was an SD card slot. In retorspect, the SD801-based 64GB Oneplus One that's now sold for only $300 USD may have been a better choice. Also, the LG GUI is ok, but not as nice as the Cyanogen OS on a Oneplus One phone. The LG GUI looks ok, it is something like made by geeks, for other geeks. The poor wallpaper collection and the lack of themes is appalling, but fixable. The phone looks like a keeper to me. I look forward to testing the camera performance and trying Cyanogenmod.
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Thank you so much for posting this and for following up with your findings.
I have a G3 on order from the same seller and started to worry after reading their negative feedback (also AFTER buying - which I would not normally do!).
I'll also post on here once I receive the LG G3 32gb to confirm that the phone received is the official LG Model or a replica, new or used and whether the phone is working as it should.
Thanks for the SD card suggestion too, I will have a look.

I was just looking at a G3 from them this morning. I'll be curious to hear about your experience.
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The G2 is pretty old now despite the capabilities from it. I feel like the price they are selling it for is reasonable

I just purchased a vs980 from eBay for 89.99 and it is in perfect condition. It is refurbished but works like brand new

syrkles said:
I just purchased a vs980 from eBay for 89.99 and it is in perfect condition. It is refurbished but works like brand new
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before flashing any rom makes sure you know exact variant or else youll brick phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/general/warning-to-people-bought-phones-ebay-t2991195

I got the G3 it is legit LG tested everything and its legit. A couple of things though.
Branded T-Mobile who have been EE for nearly 2 years?
Get alerts from T-Mobile saying 156mb update is ready but it just reboots and stays on 4.4.2.
It keeps on turning off and will come on again once I remove and re-insert the battery.
Currently debating whether to send it back for a refund or root to see if it fixes it!

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I got the G3 it is legit LG tested everything and its legit. A couple of things though.
Branded T-Mobile who have been EE for nearly 2 years?
Get alerts from T-Mobile saying 156mb update is ready but it just reboots and stays on 4.4.2.
It keeps on turning off and will come on again once I remove and re-insert the battery.
Currently debating whether to send it back for a refund or root to see if it fixes it!
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theres a kdz file for marshmallow to update phone. maybe give that a try..do a search

Don't buy from them, they state 12 month warranty but after 3 months the screen died and they won't honor their warranty.

4GB Zenfone 2 - First Impressions

Got mine yesterday, really fast delivery from China and arrived in Dublin on Monday via DHL , had to pay €53.25 customs fees just when i thought i was getting away with it!!
Anyway ill list the pros and cons so far
PROS - Fast and responsive with no lag, especially with Nova launcher
Haven't taken many photos but the camera seems excellent and a massive step up from my One Plus One which ill be selling
Looks really smart with Android L, really nice interface
The phone is a perfect size and looks really nice
Addition of micro sim and dual sim is excellent and should be standard thesedays
Audio sounds good
CONS - The back looks nice but it's just plastic, i dont know why but i thought this was supposed to be aluminium so im a tad disappointed and premium design phones are the way forward the front looks lovely however
I dont know why but ive had the occasional FC on the play store and this shouldn't happen on a brand new phone
Not many but bloody chinese apps came pre loaded and are i dont appear to be able to uninstall them all
The power button up the top is a pain and will take a while getting used to, what the hell is wrong with the side
For come reason my contacts didn't sync from Google everything else did, ive tried a few things no luck so far so im hoping i can sort this out.
anymore pros and cons ill post them, feel free to share your own views,

were you bought it from? I am planning to buy this from Asus France, is that good idea? Because now only €299 and no customs fees! (I live in The Netherlands, EU)

Thanks for the rundown.
Battery life?

Rene_ajax said:
were you bought it from? I am planning to buy this from Asus France, is that good idea? Because now only €299 and no customs fees! (I live in The Netherlands, EU)
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tried that already, unless you have a French address it wont allow you to.
got mine from
http://www.gearbest.com/
and excellent delivery time i have to say (choose DHL)

DanielKennethRego said:
Thanks for the rundown.
Battery life?
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Cant comment yet im still in the process of setting it up and downloading all my app and ill have to bluetooth photos/videos/music from my One Plus One to this phone and most important find a fix for my contacts not syncing but in general im very impressed, it;s so responsive and smooth

jonny68 said:
tried that already, unless you have a French address it wont allow you to.
got mine from
http://www.gearbest.com/
and excellent delivery time i have to say (choose DHL)
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thats really a pity
but from gearbest that one is Taiwanese version, no Playstore and only 1,8ghz. but I have heard you can put Worldwide firmware on it, so it can support EU bands and have playstore?

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I got the one from gearbest.com also thought I was getting 2.3GHz processor but only got 1.8GHz still has 4GB ram and 32GB storage. agreed phone is quick, and agree mostly with impressions above. Screen is also a little dull to me and viewing angles are not great. Just ran and antutu and it got 41672. My Note 3 with Cyanogenmod got 42212.
Tried 1080p videos and YouTube and works without any glitches also played Real Racing 3 and it had no glitches or stutters. The plastic back makes my hand sweat for whatever reason but a case would fix anyways. Camera works great and takes better pics than my Note 3. Am on T-mobile USA and because Chinese firmware only getting 3G/H+ good coverage area gets me around 12mb down and 2mb up.
Probably going to sell it and stick with my Note 3 until something better comes along.

Rene_ajax said:
thats really a pity
but from gearbest that one is Taiwanese version, no Playstore and only 1,8ghz. but I have heard you can put Worldwide firmware on it, so it can support EU bands and have playstore?
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You must have the Chinese version because the Taiwanese version have the Google services pre-installed.

The one from Gearbest.com is China version. I can confirm.

coastalmikey said:
You must have the Chinese version because the Taiwanese version have the Google services pre-installed.
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What do you mean?
If I understood correctly, Chinese version is from Gearbest and that one doesnt have play store and is only 1,8ghz

yes it is the chinese version i have and im fuming here google play was continuously force closing so i uninstalled it and sideloaded the apk which installs ok but when i click on it it wont open, ive tred clearing cache and data, uninstalling and re installing but to no avail so im left with a phone in which i cannot install my apps, ****ing disaster after my initiak post when i was fairly happy earlier the minute i turned the phone on to finish setting up the problems started, it's looking likely ill have to send it back, theres no way im paying customs fees again and they cay refund me for the postage and either send me a non chinese version with google play instaslled or refund me my money.
unless anyone has other ideas in the meantme
fuming here

I had that problem too but clearing the cache fixed.

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aaronoh said:
You can order from Asus France. You just need to use a mail forwarding service such as BPM-LUX or French Office. I've ordered with BPM but it's not due for dispatch from Asus for 'around a month'.
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can you tell me how to do mail forwarding from the site?? I am from The Netherlands, so...
Really wanna buy from Asus France

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42414373&postcount=35
ridiculous you have to do this just to get the play store but it works,,,however it's now asking me again to pay for the apps which ive already paid for, anyone know how i can resolve this?

im returning mine to Gearbeast i sent them a message and they responded fairly quickly and said they'd send me a European model which they should have done in the first place, they are expecting me to pay for postage too im going to demand they refund me this and pay any other customs fees , clearly they should not have sent people outside China the Chinese model with no play store which is a nightmare.
Asides from that it's a cracking phone, but when available im going to purchase an aluminium back cover whenever i get my European model sent to me.

I also purchased a Chinese version from Gearbest. I am currently in the process of returning it and already bought a Taiwanese 2.3GHz version from eBay. The eBay ones seem to be the best so far, as they are the Taiwanese version which means 4G on T-Mobile PLUS its the 2.3GHz instead of the 1.8GHz ... on top of all that, it has the Play Store and Google framework installed. ...... At least, that's what I've come up with reading on the forums the past couple of days. Hopefully they're all true.

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I also purchased a Chinese version from Gearbest. I am currently in the process of returning it and already bought a Taiwanese 2.3GHz version from eBay. The eBay ones seem to be the best so far, as they are the Taiwanese version which means 4G on T-Mobile PLUS its the 2.3GHz instead of the 1.8GHz ... on top of all that, it has the Play Store and Google framework installed. ...... At least, that's what I've come up with reading on the forums the past couple of days. Hopefully they're all true.
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Can you link to your ebay item/seller?

LG G6 - H870DS or H870

Hello,
i would like to get myself the G6.
But i'm not sure wether to get the H870 (European model) or the DS model?
You could count the Pros and Cons, but its more a decision of wether to root and use custom ROMs or not?
What about updates/upgrades?
Just share your opinions to help me decide! :fingers-crossed:
PS:
I don't use/need VoLTE.

ShiRaZ1988 said:
Hello,
i would like to get myself the G6.
But i'm not sure wether to get the H870 (European model) or the DS model?
You could count the Pros and Cons, but its more a decision of wether to root and use custom ROMs or not?
What about updates/upgrades?
Just share your opinions to help me decide! :fingers-crossed:
PS:
I don't use/need VoLTE.
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It depends on what you need...
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H870 pros:
- Updates
- Bootloader Unlock: Possible
H870DS pros:
- Quad Dac
- 64GB of internal memory
- Dual Sim
So, if you need root or like modding in general go for an European H870, if not, go for the H870DS, if you have no interests in both pros go for the one which cost less.
My vote is for H870, don't need 32GB since i don't use heavy apps and have tons of storage on my pc and use a 64GB Microsd, also don't need QuadDac or the second sim.

Killua96 said:
It depends on what you need...
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H870 pros:
- Updates
- Bootloader Unlock: Possible
H870DS pros:
- Quad Dac
- 64GB of internal memory
- Dual Sim
So, if you need root or like modding in general go for an European H870, if not, go for the H870DS, if you have no interests in both pros go for the one which cost less.
My vote is for H870, don't need 32GB since i don't use heavy apps and have tons of storage on my pc and use a 64GB Microsd, also don't need QuadDac or the second sim.
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I second that

Hello,
Is it possible to put a EU rom on the H870DS? Or is there a risk of brick the phone ?
Sorry for my english im french
Thank

Urban_225 said:
Hello,
Is it possible to put a EU rom on the H870DS? Or is there a risk of brick the phone ?
Sorry for my english im french
Thank
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It's better not, the possibility of bricking are very high, also what's the point of doing this? It wouldn't allow the bootloader unlock if that was your thinking, that is an IMEI limited thing

Thank you for your answer
To answer your question I would like to have the EU version because it seems to have more update than version TWN.

Urban_225 said:
Thank you for your answer
To answer your question I would like to have the EU version because it seems to have more update than version TWN.
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In any case I wouldn't advise that, after all the H870 has 32GB only, no dual SIM and no quad dac, so even if you don't brick the phone you would have a software limited phone.

I concur. I think it's a very bad idea, not sure you could even flash it anyways. You'll get your own updates in time, why bother about that?

I got the H870, because of the unlocked bootloader

There is no reason at all to get the European version unless you really need to unlock your bootloader. The DS version is superior. I've had both. Sold the European version and got the DS and could not be happier about it. This also send signals to LG for their region crap.

The main reason to buy a h870 instead of h870ds, if you're living in Europe, is the guarantee or a lack of it on h870ds. Spending £300 or more without any guarantee is gambling.

The sellers are putting in various forms of warranties on the H870DS, most of them offering a year of "seller's warranty". Considering the price of purchase, I'd say it's pretty good. You'll probably run into less problem returning it to a seller on eBay, who wouldn't want to risk getting negative feedback, than talking to LG customer support, which in some cases seem that they couldn't care less about your faulty phone.

The Ebay sellers are located in HKG, e.g. in guarantee case you or he have/has to send it for repair to HKG. 2-4 weeks without smartphone. EBay 12 months, EU 24 months guarantee, etc...

Montechristo said:
The Ebay sellers are located in HKG, e.g. in guarantee case you or he have/has to send it for repair to HKG. 2-4 weeks without smartphone. EBay 12 months, EU 24 months guarantee, etc...
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The sellers are shipping from Ireland or the UK, and if I were ever to return it over warranty issues, that's where I'd send it.

Gr8 idea, you send to Irland, UK, France or wherever. Your dealer ships it to HKG for repair = 2-4 weeks without your phone.

TheSaw said:
I got the H870, because of the unlocked bootloader
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Did you buy it online? Im also looking for an european H870

MrBigWaffles said:
Did you buy it online? Im also looking for an european H870
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Yes, I got it from ebay, because I didn't trust the shady cheap websites. Others have successfully ordered from the shady websites, so you can give it a try if you're brave enough: eglobalcentral. Although I don't see the H870 model at them right now.

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Gr8 idea, you send to Irland, UK, France or wherever. Your dealer ships it to HKG for repair = 2-4 weeks without your phone.
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Well, if you send your faulty phone to LG, you can rest assure that it'll take some time to get it back as well, since LG doesn't do any repairs themselves. Depending on the issue, the eBay seller might send you a new phone instead of shipping it to Hong Kong. As I've said before, the eBay sellers are far more sensitive to negative feedback than LG, and more commonly known to try to satisfy their buyers.

As much as I'd love to have 64 gigs and dual sim, I spent €40 extra to get the 32 gig single sim, just to be able to unlock the bootloader.
I wouldn't hesitate a second to order with eglobal to get the DS if I felt I didn't need root access.
IMO the price difference compensates for not having warranty so the extra storage and dual sim make it a no brainer.
But yeah, bought the EU version anyway.