Can't use Fingerprint Sensor with 3rd Party Lock Screen - LG G6 Questions and Answers

I'm SO frustrated. The stock Marshmellow Lock Screen is terrible. One of the poor design points of Android for quite some time now. There are much better lock screens such as Microsoft Next, Hi Locker, etc. Some of which (like the ones mentioned) support fingerprint unlock.
The problem with the G6 is that it won't allow you to setup a fingerprint, WITHOUT enabling the system lock screen!
There's other apps that use fingerprint option, such as LastPass app. Can't use it unless you have System Lock screen enabled.
Pathetic

jazee said:
I'm SO frustrated. The stock Marshmellow Lock Screen is terrible. One of the poor design points of Android for quite some time now. There are much better lock screens such as Microsoft Next, Hi Locker, etc. Some of which (like the ones mentioned) support fingerprint unlock.
The problem with the G6 is that it won't allow you to setup a fingerprint, WITHOUT enabling the system lock screen!
There's other apps that use fingerprint option, such as LastPass app. Can't use it unless you have System Lock screen enabled.
Pathetic
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
#1. Why are you on Marshmallow? Most G6's launched with 7.0
#2. I barley see my lockscreen. I just put my finger on the scanner and it unlocks. I don't see a point in having one anymore.

Gveric said:
#1. Why are you on Marshmallow? Most G6's launched with 7.0
#2. I barley see my lockscreen. I just put my finger on the scanner and it unlocks. I don't see a point in having one anymore.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
^ this
Especially with AOD the lock screen is very rarely seen. With knock on and the finger print scanner being very accurate on this device, I don't use the lock screen ever. I suppose if you use the swipe to unlock it's still relevant.
Sent from my LG-H872 using Tapatalk

First the absence of a notification LED.... now this catastrophe!
Life's really tough.

Sorry I got my sweets all mixed up. I meant Nougat, not Marshmellow.
Everyone has different objectives of how they use their smartphone. For me, I'm not one to be using my phone frequently throughout the day. This is a key difference between me and a lot of typical users, especially the younger generation that is doing SMS/Facebook/Snapchat/Instagram/YouTube/Etc much of the day. I for one must have repeating sound alarms for missed SMS and phone calls as the LED indicator doesn't do any good when you aren't always glancing at your phone. I can leave it in another room for much of the day. So I guess I don't miss an LED indicator on my G6. (I use Prof Reminder app). When I do turn on my phone I want to see vital info right up front. That is:
- Text of missed SMS messages
- Missed phone calls
- Upcoming appointments for the next few days
- Weather for the next 3-5 days
I used to use C Locker which lets you put any widgets you want on the lock screen but I'm preferring the simplicity and look of MS Next Lock Screen now.
Anyhoo, my preference is to double tap screen to see my lock screen with all the info, then if I want to unlock, use the fingerprint sensor. The stock lock screen SUCKS.
The bottom line is that use of the fingerprint sensor should be independent of the lock screen setting. This would be like saying you can only use the home button with the stock home screen and couldn't use Nova Launcher.

Related

Tap to wake or unlock via fingerprint possible?

Got it a couple of hours ago and I''m wondering if there's any way round having to press the home button to unlock the phone, like being able to just rest my finger on the pad to wake it and unlock.
Any idea how to enable double tap to wake up the S7 edge? Just a new user coming from the xperia Z2.
joebongo said:
Got it a couple of hours ago and I''m wondering if there's any way round having to press the home button to unlock the phone, like being able to just rest my finger on the pad to wake it and unlock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'd also love to know hopefully it's possible.
Nearest thing I've found so far is to enable edges then when screen is off, swipe up and down to show the edge content at which point you can unlock via fingerprint reader.
joebongo said:
Got it a couple of hours ago and I''m wondering if there's any way round having to press the home button to unlock the phone, like being able to just rest my finger on the pad to wake it and unlock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not really, only the other way round, press the home button and leave the finger on it and it will unlock straight away.
Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
Not possible unfortunately. The method Tectas explained above, is the quickest way.
Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
joebongo said:
Nearest thing I've found so far is to enable edges then when screen is off, swipe up and down to show the edge content at which point you can unlock via fingerprint reader.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Found this way to, but would prefer an easier one.
Well I have tried a few tap to wake apps and they all fail. This is making me think that the always on display is actually an app in its own right meaning the tap to wake apps don't activate. Any thoughts my learned colleagues?
Gotta push the button. I understand you want to just rest your finger and let it unlock (like nexus 6P) but is it really that hard to put little bit of pressure to actually push the button and just leave your finger there like you would have with a 6P? Only step you're doing is moving your finger 1/40 of an inch to actuate the button lol.
Partial success! Following this guide for the S6 edge I can have tap to wake working http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/tap-to-wake-samsung-device-t3141850
The snag is, and here's the new challenge, to have either AOD or edge clock working whilst it's asleep.
@razorseal : it's not a biggie, I am just trying to recreate the functionality of Windows phones as it was a beautiful workflow that I'd like to keep of glance screen and DT2W/DT2S.
So I'm thinking it's an app like Knockr I need but one which somehow allows AOD to work. Any suggestions welcome - I'm not averse to rooting to achieve this.
Getting closer still. So I uninstalled all that stuff from the link above and put this app on: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.orthur.always_on_display&hl=en
It has an AOD display which if you put your finger on the pad it reads the print and unlocks. It does have a double tap to wake as well which can be used to open the lock screen and then do the fingerprint.
So now I just need a double tap to sleep app then if the battery drain isn't too crazy, the mission is complete.
Anyone know a good double tap to sleep app that isn't a floating widget? Something like on CM13 whereby you double tap the status bar and it goes to sleep would be good.
You could always enable the 'Easy screen turn on' feature, which can be found by going to 'Accessibility' and then 'Dexterity and Interaction'....
I believe this was previously known as 'Air View'.
I hope this helps.
joebongo said:
Partial success! Following this guide for the S6 edge I can have tap to wake working http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/tap-to-wake-samsung-device-t3141850
The snag is, and here's the new challenge, to have either AOD or edge clock working whilst it's asleep.
@razorseal : it's not a biggie, I am just trying to recreate the functionality of Windows phones as it was a beautiful workflow that I'd like to keep of glance screen and DT2W/DT2S.
So I'm thinking it's an app like Knockr I need but one which somehow allows AOD to work. Any suggestions welcome - I'm not averse to rooting to achieve this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This will probably drain your battery too much. Many of these (root-less) apps keep the AMOLED screen on but with a black rectangle displayed so it looks like it's off. But don't fall into the "AMOLED black does not consume power" lie. There is an entire system powering the screen that consumes power.
maverick1103 said:
You could always enable the 'Easy screen turn on' feature, which can be found by going to 'Accessibility' and then 'Dexterity and Interaction'....
I believe this was previously known as 'Air View'.
I hope this helps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep this is the easiest solution folks. It's what I use. Just a simple wave or swipe finger over the proximity sensor, device wakes up. There is also a setting elsewhere that stops the phone from waking up if its in your pocket or so, so good idea to use that too.
MDaveUK said:
Yep this is the easiest solution folks. It's what I use. Just a simple wave or swipe finger over the proximity sensor, device wakes up. There is also a setting elsewhere that stops the phone from waking up if its in your pocket or so, so good idea to use that too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Quite a nice solution. I wonder if it has any impact on battery, since the proximity sensor is probably always-on ?
I still hate Samsung for not implementing double tap to wake. I mean, they copy everything from Apple, but they can't copy a really useful feature like this from LG (or whoever had it first without battery drain) ?
Cst79 said:
Quite a nice solution. I wonder if it has any impact on battery, since the proximity sensor is probably always-on ?
I still hate Samsung for not implementing double tap to wake. I mean, they copy everything from Apple, but they can't copy a really useful feature like this from LG (or whoever had it first without battery drain) ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well then wouldn't u have battery drain from the screen because the touch sensor is always on?
maverick1103 said:
You could always enable the 'Easy screen turn on' feature, which can be found by going to 'Accessibility' and then 'Dexterity and Interaction'....
I believe this was previously known as 'Air View'.
I hope this helps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's a nice alternative Thanks :good: Btw, what's that theme, looks nice I loove red with black lol
Cst79 said:
Quite a nice solution. I wonder if it has any impact on battery, since the proximity sensor is probably always-on ?
I still hate Samsung for not implementing double tap to wake. I mean, they copy everything from Apple, but they can't copy a really useful feature like this from LG (or whoever had it first without battery drain) ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've had this enabled for a couple of days now and my battery life is fine, yesterday I got the best screen on time which I've ever had on a phone, 7hr 20 min....so far I don't think it's having an impact.
---------- Post added at 08:05 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:03 AM ----------
Leelouster said:
That's a nice alternative Thanks :good: Btw, what's that theme, looks nice I loove red with black lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No problem, I always used it on my Note 4, I found it quite useful.
Theme is called Rediz, it's available in the theme store...
http://www.samsung.com/global/themestore/index.html?appId=LucasKendi.Rediz&SITE_CODE=uk
So any new successful option
joebongo said:
Getting closer still. So I uninstalled all that stuff from the link above and put this app on:
It has an AOD display which if you put your finger on the pad it reads the print and unlocks. It does have a double tap to wake as well which can be used to open the lock screen and then do the fingerprint.
So now I just need a double tap to sleep app then if the battery drain isn't too crazy, the mission is complete.
Anyone know a good double tap to sleep app that isn't a floating widget? Something like on CM13 whereby you double tap the status bar and it goes to sleep would be good.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Answer to your question is Nova Launcher Pro. You can use the double tap gesture to lock the screen, no widgets required. Let me know if you have any confusion with that. The only downside with that is when I wake the phone back up, it says and I quote "Enter PIN instead of using fingerprint recognition because of security policy". It's quite a big deal for me, having to type in the PIN instead of just resting my finger on the home button. Still searching an answer for that. If anyone has found a workaround/solution, please let me know.
PS: Sorry, I had to cut the playstore link from your original message, XDA forums won't let me post with a link in it.
---------- Post added at 11:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:35 PM ----------
So, I researched a bit and found a workaround. I am not allowed to post links here, so, find an app called 'Screen Lock Pro' from the Play Store. Its by a developer called Prahallad and costs $2.37. Then activate it as a device administrator, go to setting and enable 'Smart Lock and Nexus Imprint'. Then go back to your Nova Launcher settings, into 'Gestures & Inputs'. Select 'Double Tap' under gestures and select the shortcuts tab on the top. From there, select the 'Screen Lock Pro (Shortcut)' and you're done. There are a ton of other features in the app and I am still trying them all out one by one.

Disable "second" lock screen in EUI

I hate lock screens so I disable them. If the fingerprint reader were better I'd seriously consider using it to unlock the phone, but it isn't.
My problem now is the "second" lock screen on this phone. Not sure if this is an andorid thing or an EUI thing, since I haven't used android 6.0+ before.
Essentially, I need my home screen to appears when I click the power button. Is that possible? If so, what setting am I missing to disable this screen with the time and camera icon on it?
What is this SECOND LOCK SCREEN?
What issues are you having with Fingerprint? Mine has worked flawlessly.
You have already disabled the block screen on the phone?
umOuch said:
What is this SECOND LOCK SCREEN?
What issues are you having with Fingerprint? Mine has worked flawlessly.
You have already disabled the block screen on the phone?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So it turns out its just the regular lock screen. The best I can seem to do is set the auto-lock to 30 minutes - this is the maximum time out. This is better, but I want NO lock screen. Does anyone know if this is possible? Some setting I am missing?
I dunno about the fingerprint reader. I'm no apple fan boy but I have to use one for work, and the fingerprint reader on apple devices is far superior, so I'm spoiled with my expectations. The better solution for me is to just get rid of the lock screen.
LxMxFxD said:
So it turns out its just the regular lock screen. The best I can seem to do is set the auto-lock to 30 minutes - this is the maximum time out. This is better, but I want NO lock screen. Does anyone know if this is possible? Some setting I am missing?
I dunno about the fingerprint reader. I'm no apple fan boy but I have to use one for work, and the fingerprint reader on apple devices is far superior, so I'm spoiled with my expectations. The better solution for me is to just get rid of the lock screen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ahem the FP of Le Pro 3 or any Android phone out there is far superior because you can unlock the phone even if the screen is off.
Can't find a setting either; if set to none you still have to slide up the lock screen. Other phones I've had remove it all together if set to none.
Finger print sensor on mine seems fine, so i just use that.
Freezing 'System Interface 6.0.1' in Titanium gets rid of lock screen, but has some serious side effects.
LxMxFxD said:
I hate lock screens so I disable them. If the fingerprint reader were better I'd seriously consider using it to unlock the phone, but it isn't.
My problem now is the "second" lock screen on this phone. Not sure if this is an andorid thing or an EUI thing, since I haven't used android 6.0+ before.
Essentially, I need my home screen to appears when I click the power button. Is that possible? If so, what setting am I missing to disable this screen with the time and camera icon on it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This worked for me:
After pressing Power or scanning Finger Print the ``Second Lock Screen´´ pops up, don´t slide to unlock or press any of the icons or ads, instead look for three little pale white dots on upper left corner of display, (they are hard to notice with some wallpapers, specially the included on the phone wallpapers) almost like the ones in some browsers to deploy a menu, press that, and the Locker app should pop up asking you if you want to disable it, press Disable and that should do it!
If you can´t see them try setting a lock screen wallpaper that has solid dark colors on the upper part of the screen.
I don't understand the problem but I've been using this for 1 year
https://repo.xposed.info/module/com.lr.keyguarddisabler
bye from Italy
from k54
2° lepro3 x720 gizrom30s , rooted xposed

Hide the iris scanner camera when unlocking?

Hi everyone, I was wondering if it were possible to hide seeing my face when using the iris scanner, I think it would look more neat.
I know you can activate the iris scanner as soon as you wake up the phone but I set the home button to automatically unlock (since I use smart lock and that makes it very convenient) so when I press the home button it'll instantly go to the unlock screen where the front cam is activated.
OK I guess I could use the power button instead but I was wondering if there's a way with the home button. Thanks!
Mine is intermittent as to when it does show the camera view. Most of the time it will just come up with a line of text saying look here for iris scanning and I'm never quite sure where I'm supposed to actually be looking.
degsyh said:
Mine is intermittent as to when it does show the camera view. Most of the time it will just come up with a line of text saying look here for iris scanning and I'm never quite sure where I'm supposed to actually be looking.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You should be watching towards the top of the screen near the grid, you should do this even before turning the screen on and it's faster and more accurate
If you look at the red light left hand corner it's unlocks instantly
Yeah its not too bad, i wear glasses so is a bit of a pain sometimes it works through them most of time it doesn't. I might try and get used to doing that "guess where the fingerprint scanner is without putting your finger all over the camera lense" manoeuvre.
I meant why does it *sometimes* come up with the camera viewfinder - does yours *always* come up with the camera viewfinder?
It shows the camera when the unlock isn't instant, or this is what I noticed, just wanted to hide that for a sleeker look
JohnPyn said:
It shows the camera when the unlock isn't instant, or this is what I noticed, just wanted to hide that for a sleeker look
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not an answer but an option. You can go into Settings>Lock screen and security>Iris Scanner>Preview screen mask
There's some goofy masks but maybe there is one that might preset a "sleeker" look for you.
burrzoo said:
Not an answer but an option. You can go into Settings>Lock screen and security>Iris Scanner>Preview screen mask
There's some goofy masks but maybe there is one that might preset a "sleeker" look for you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep I know about that, that makes everything even worse imo Ahah the main problem to the "sleeker look" is that the camera is super low res, I don't know just feel it's useless but u guess there's no way to get rid of it
I got exactly same question !
That things is pure ugly in term of design and aesthetic, LoL
Hopefully someone can found a way to permanently hide that visual
To unlock your S8 or S8+ with your iris without seeing the camera preview go to:
Settings => Lock screen and security => Iris Scanner
... and turn on the very last option called "Iris unlock when screen turns on".
Regards,
JaeMelo said:
To unlock your S8 or S8+ with your iris without seeing the camera preview go to:
Settings => Lock screen and security => Iris Scanner
... and turn on the very last option called "Iris unlock when screen turns on".
Regards,
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you,
But we already know and use that option indeed.
But sometimes, we want to jnlock the phone on the table, when its not facing our face, thus we slide up the lock screen,
And then, bam, those ugly visual appear above the PIN number pad. LoL
Sure it has nothing wrong with the function. We just simply hate how it "broke" our beautiful lockscreen layout
otonieru said:
Thank you,
But we already know and use that option indeed.
But sometimes, we want to jnlock the phone on the table, when its not facing our face, thus we slide up the lock screen,
And then, bam, those ugly visual appear above the PIN number pad. LoL
Sure it has nothing wrong with the function. We just simply hate how it "broke" our beautiful lockscreen layout
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOOOL, I'm sorry but that made me laugh. I guess we'll have to wait for a tweak.
otonieru said:
Thank you,
But we already know and use that option indeed.
But sometimes, we want to jnlock the phone on the table, when its not facing our face, thus we slide up the lock screen,
And then, bam, those ugly visual appear above the PIN number pad. LoL
Sure it has nothing wrong with the function. We just simply hate how it "broke" our beautiful lockscreen layout
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can trigger the iris scanner again by clicking the text on the top center instead of swiping, this will not show the guidance visual.
I found the best way to mitigate this is to do two things.
1. Enable the toggle for "iris unlock when screen turns on" under lockscreen>iris scanner
2. Disable the toggle for "Unlock with home button" under setting>display>navigation bar
It's still not perfect but I'm at 90% success rate and it's far faster than fingerprint debacle. I figure when you press the home screen without option 2, phone triggers instant to unlock. With it unchecked it pauses so you can look at notifications.
Should default this way imo.
By golly you are right!
Babychan said:
If you look at the red light left hand corner it's unlocks instantly
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know this is an old thread but I just would like to thank you for this tip! I always look at the line of text to unlock my phone and it sometimes doesn't do the trick. But looking at the red dot hasn't failed me yet!!! And it's almost instantaneous! Thanks for this tip.

fingerprints

Hi all of you
I got rooted exynos note4... i need fingerprint app for my lock screen. Which one do you prefer? And why.. it can be not only for lockscreen
I am running a Note 7 port on my Note 4 and I use AppLock.
I do not use it's lockscreen feature (it does have it included) because I think the Note 4's fingerprint reader is not well suited for unlocking the phone (IMO, because it can be tricky to unlock when handling the phone with one hand)
Instead, I have my lockscreen set to "swipe" so I can do basic stuff like switch the volume or turn toggles on and off at will, as well as double tapping the home button to open the camera from screen off phone.
I have most apps locked behind my fingerprint reader, that way nobody can open any app and a fingerprint lockscreen doesn't get in the way when I just want to mess with the volume or some basic stuff.
Applock also has a feature that it will only ask for your fingerprint once per unlock (until you turn your screen off), so that way you don't have to swipe your finger every single time you open an app (PRO version, not expensive at all)
Another reason that 3rd party lockscreens aren't that great are because:
1. Not all of them will allow you to use the screen off memo, I think Hi Unlocker doesn't let you use the screen off memo unless you unlock it with fingerprint, which can get annoying
2. There is no 3rd party lockscreen (to my knowledge) that will allow you to double tap home to open the camera app. All of them WILL require you to unlock it with the finger-print or turn the screen on and then swipe the camera shortcut. To me, this is a deal breaker since I take a lot of photos, most of the time to things that happen pretty fast and losing a couple of seconds to unlock the phone and/or swipe the camera option builds up and gets annoying.
But overall, the most used (that I've seen) is AppLock and Hi Unlocker.
Good luck, both are free to try anyway so I'd test them both to see which is to your liking

[Q] Intentional Fingerprint Delay

In OMNI ROM for 8.1 the fingerprint capture is delayed slightly. Similar to the Z5 Compact. In my opinion the lightning fast fingerprint reader renders the lock screen useless and what used to be a quick display of information is now just a blur as my phone unlocks. This then prompts me to perform several other actions to retrieve/view the notification. Not to mention the music apps lock screen widget to skip tracks is now useless because my phone unlocks before I have time to interact with the lock screen.
How adding a delay in fingerprint recognition could be accomplished (if at all) on the stock firmware for 8.0?
Does anyone know if there is a delay parameter in some part of the system that can be modified?
What controls the recognition of the fingerprint scanner (kernel or android system)?
I know what you are talking about but a workaround is to press it with a finger nail or a finger that hasn't been setup like the little finger of your non-dominant hand.
rjglenn said:
I know what you are talking about but a workaround is to press it with a finger nail or a finger that hasn't been setup like the little finger of your non-dominant hand.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah that's the short term fix but I want a longer term fix if I am to use this phone for a few years.
Clarification on question:
I guess I am wondering what piece of the android operating system controls the scanner.
Is it the kernel or is it one of the few android fingerprint applications?
Any suggestions on this would be helpful so I can begin looking into a solution because I like the fingerprint scanner in the power button but I just want it to distinguish between me powering on to see the lockscreen/check time/change music or me actually wanting to unlock the device.

Categories

Resources