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xperia z4

http://www.xda-developers.com/sony-xperia-z4-unveiled-in-japan/
So according to those news, the camera on z4 will be the same as z3's with some small software improvements.This could be something big, raw or more manual settings perhaps even better whitebalance.I don't think raw functionality could be ported but atleast we'd have a better camera app if the news aren't lying.
What's your opinion on this? How satisfied are you with the current camera app we've got?

Not worth the upgrade. The 810 SoC is really bad on battery and has tons of issue with overheating. Plus smaller battery? No thanks. I'll stick with my Z2. Still performs flawless so far and looks the same as the Z4.

My upgrade is due in August i have been hoping it would be about the right time for the Z4 ,
But i just was hoping for better after all i did not bother with the z3 because it the same as i already have,,,,,

xxlikquidxx said:
Not worth the upgrade. The 810 SoC is really bad on battery and has tons of issue with overheating. Plus smaller battery? No thanks. I'll stick with my Z2. Still performs flawless so far and looks the same as the Z4.
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Exactly, though if it does have the same camera but with improved software, it would benefit us z2 users.
@lodger
Z2 is a decent flagship, I don't think an upgrade is neccessary however if you do upgrade don't go for Z4, snapdragon 810 has overheating issues, it will have smaller battery plus more power consumption.
Go for S6 or S6 edge.I know samsung has quality issues but those two are premium phones.They don't have snapdragon afterall, rumor says samsung tried 810 but couldn't deal with the heat so they used their own chipset which has great battery/performance.

so the official words is this will be called the Z3+, not the Z4.
Source: http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/26/8659357/sony-xperia-z3-plus-specs-features-release-date
Time to switch to LG G4.

I'll be sticking with the Z2 thanks, until ara comes out at least

the Z3+ supports alot of manual settings like Manual Focus,shutter speed,ISO and white balance.So there is hope for us too. ( :

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This makes me happy, manual controls is what is needed on a phone with a good camera

manual control is introduced for the z3+ but still no raw support
check this video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng9Cqcs2-CA

Thats disapointing
Raw support would make my college work so much easier.
Lets hope sony bring raw mode

Someone will mod and port those settings to Z2!
Still Z3+ isn't a worthy update. A true Z4 with 820 SOC when it comes.
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How do you all know if the Z4 have heating issues, do you have it ? No the device isn't out yet so you all cant complain, Sony fix that probarly till the release and if someone have the Z4 then we can talk about it and please dont say Samsung is a quality phone since they have the s6, Sony is a better quality phone and for sure a better design, let samsung stick on thier plastic devices !

every phone that has a S810 built in has been hot till now. And if not it's been throttling down like hell.
Even this Chinaphone (name forgotten sorry) which had 5 patent's pending on cooling technology and said they will get the dragon tamed failed.
and from a material point of view glass is not really a good material for heat transportation. I don't expect any kind of Magic from Sony in this case.
But yeah, we will see that with the first reviews
btw Camera.... we have a IMX220 sensor in our Z2 right? Same as Z3...
Z4 will also get this one or the 16MP IMX240 as in SGS6 and Note4, with native 16:9 resolution.
Though the IMX230 is said to ship in April 2015.... still 4:3 and some pretty neat features.
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201411/14-112E/

http://www.androidauthority.com/qualcomm-snapdragon-810-benchmark-no-overheating-587303/

You do realise that "MDP" stands for Mobile Development Platform and is especially made by Qualcomm?

sold my Z2 and upgraded to a LG G4 international unlocked model. Couldn't be happier. Best upgrade ever. Everything is better than the Z2 and the camera is way more advance than Sony's camera.

http://m.pocketnow.com/2015/06/09/snapdragon-810-v2-1

Verizon is introducing
http://m.gsmarena.com/a_verizonexclusive_xperia_z4v_is_coming_to_america-news-12672.php
@):- Being Practical ~o)

Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 - Real PDAF ? What is the camera sensor used ?

Hi,
I own a Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime, recently, there was a review of this smartphone at DPReview, mainly due to the camera being 13Mpx with Phase Detection Auto Focus, on such a cheap smartphone.
And I was wondering, how can I identify the Camera Sensors on this phone?
There has been a teardown of the phone, and below is the picture of the sensors found:
myfixguide dot com/manual/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-2-Teardown-16.jpg
The thing is, this references don't lead to anywhere... I've searched the net for them and found nothing... On Xiaomi's publicity, sometimes the sensor is publicized as being from Samsung or OV (Omnivision), this is never good, as we never know really what is the sensor we have on our phone...
And I've seen my share of Chinese Smartphone manufacturers that say they put sensors from Sony, and then it's Omnivision or Samsung (if your lucky), or else it's "Sunny" or some other small time chinese sensor brand...
What called my attention was, that for a smartphone so "cheap" (base model costs aprox. $125 in China), they put a 13Mpx PDAF sensor on it...
But I'm not sure both Omnivision and Samsung produce sensors with the same specs, also, from the picture below, it looks like the sensor might in fact be from "O-Film", another relatively lesser known sensor brand (check: o-film dot com)
Both sensors seem to have similar codes:
OMI BA 08
OMI 5F 05
So it looks like they might be sourced from the same manufacturer, but looking at the references, I'm afraid if they aren't really a 8Mpx sensor, interpolated to 13Mpx... Because of the "08" in the reference of the back sensor, while the front one has "05" which corresponds to the frontal camera spec of 5Mpx.
Can anyone help me identify the real sensor inside my phone? Thanks for the help !

Type *#*#6484#*#* into Phone, click on Software Version and scroll down. It does say OFilm under both Camera values. At least in my case.
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the sensors are http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/products/cmos-image-sensor/mobile-cis/S5K3M2?ia=217 and http://www.ovt.com/products/sensor.php?id=150
Sent from my Redmi Note 2

sunbriel said:
Type *#*#6484#*#* into Phone, click on Software Version and scroll down. It does say OFilm under both Camera values. At least in my case.
Sent from my Redmi Note 2
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Thanks for the tip !
In my case, I have:
- Back camera: the Sunny made S5K3M2_2ND (probably a clone of the Samsung ISOCELL S5K3M2, maybe this is their 2nd version clone or try...)
- Front camera: the Ofilm OV5670 (a clone of the Omnivision OV5670 probably)
I wonder if these clone brands have as good quality as the original ones...

Been looking on Chinese forums about this topic. I myself don't really care, but it slightly caught my interest. They are saying that the sensor is Samsung's and the camera module is Ofilm's or Sunny's.
Sent from my Redmi Note 2

Same here. The picture quality at day rivals those of much more expensive phones and the phone focuses fast enough for me - so the question on whether it's original vs a clone, or whether the PDAF is a real or fake one is purely academical to me. As for how such a "cheap" phone can have such features, it's simple: the companies charge huge margins. Just look at Sony's M5, it's essentially the same phone with more megapixels (though, tbh, not really better image quality) and costs around 500€. You're paying about 300€ just for the brand and pixels.

It's not a clone. Here is one of the links where it is explained what it all means: www.miui.com/thread-2916880-1-1.html
Use Google translate, you'll understand the general meaning. Basically, it's like I wrote in my previous post.
Sent from my Redmi Note 2

I'm not saying it is a clone, I'm saying I wouldn't care even if it is.

I was responding to the OP, though.
Sent from my X98 Air II (HG9N)

I have Sunny cameras (rear & front)
Front camera shot clean pictures in good light condition.
Rear camera is a little bit noise and macros are not perfect (you must stay at least at 10 cm from the subject in order to get a good macro) but autofocus is very fast
The problem is video FPS
I noticed that it drops dramatically in low light condition, from 30 to 22 so shot video lags
And in your?

I noticed that with miui 7 we now have slow motion so somewere around 90fps. ( you have to be in hd not in full hd to get this option).

Galaxy S7 Specs (Rumored)

Well as far as I've checked, the Galaxy S7 will be as it was with other models the fastest smartphone. Here is a short specs that I can almost be assured
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1. Chipset
=> Exynos 7422 Octa (Indian)
=> Exynos 8890
=> Snapdragon 820
2. Display
It might sport the same QHD resolution at 5.2 inches or maybe a 4K. With presaure touch solution, it'll take androiding to a whole new level.
3. Extras
Just like the previous models, S7 will also feature a fingerprint sensor. Again it is rumored that it might have an Iris scanner like Lumia 950.
It must have a heart rate sensor
4. Camera
Samsung may use a smaller camera to make the device slimmer.
==> 16 MP Sony Exmor Camera with OIS. Front facing 5-8 MP camera with DIS/EIS and autofocus.
This is all i've currently. Please stay tuned and check every websites for more

With QHD and especially 4K resolution combined with TouchWiz software it's going to need a HUGE battery. The S6 with its 2,550mAh battery and QHD screen had crap battery life.

A lot of your rumors are obvious (like having a fingerprint scanner), some are wrong (like it likely having a 16MP sensor), and you're missing the useful specs and anything new.

geoff5093 said:
A lot of your rumors are obvious (like having a fingerprint scanner), some are wrong (like it likely having a 16MP sensor), and you're missing the useful specs and anything new. it also won't have a heart rate sensor, as the Note 5 and S6 didn't.
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Note5 and S6 both had heart rate sensor, actually...

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Note5 and S6 both had heart rate sensor, actually...
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You're right, I heard something about that changing on the S6 and Note 5 but I think it was the dedicated flash for the heart rate sensor that was removed.

Probably no chance for FM radio...?

Oneplus camera on the Le Pro 3 x720?

I am planning to buy the Le Pro 3 x720 and customise it to have a oneplus 3 experience.
The LEx720 and OP3 has the same camera sensor and almost same processor (snapdragon 821 for LEx720 & snapdragon 820 for OP3)
kimovilDOTcom/en/compare/leeco-le-pro-3-6gb-64gb,oneplus-3-6gb-64gb-cn
Yet the x720 camera reviews are less positive in comparison to the OP3. I guess its the processing.
1. So has someone ever tried the Oneplus camera on the LEx720?
apkmirrorDOTcom/apk/oneplus-ltd/oneplus-camera/
2. Is it possible to have some samples comparison please, especially against the google camera?
My alternative choice would be the Meizu M6 Note which boasts the same camera as the HTC U11 and it's working pretty great with its Arcsoft algorithm.
3. Based solely on camera, can the LEx720 deliver a better image quality than the Meizu M6 Note?
I would really appreciate your views.
Thank you all in advance.

I wouldn't say you're guaranteed to get a Sony sensor. Some people here are reporting that their camera isn't working on custom ROMs like Paranoid Android--which means that they have a different camera sensor (I believe custom ROMs for the Pro3 variants are built with Sony drivers, but IDK). The OnePlus 3 camera is miles better than the Pro3 camera simply because OnePlus bothers to put good camera software on their phones. Not iPhone-quality, but definitely up there. When it comes to cameras, software is a lot more important, IMO. That's why the iPhone 6's camera quality holds up today, even though the phone was released in 2014. Name a single Android phone from 2014 with good camera quality today...
You are not guaranteed good camera quality from Chinese phones. Some Chinese brands claim to make this a priority, but reviews don't lie. Now, Camera2 API may improve quality, but it really depends. Camera2 API has done wonders for variants of the Xiaomi Note 4 stuck with the inferior Omnivision sensor. It's done even more for variants with Sony and Samsung sensors. And I expect it does well for the Pro3 too, since the Pro3 has a chipset with good image processing. Do your research. Look around the forum and search for camera mods. See if you like the results or not. Camera2 API requires you to root your phone.
Sorry, but if you want a flagship-worthy camera experience, you either buy an iPhone 7, 8, or X, a Samsung S8 or Note 8, an OP3T or OP5, or a Pixel phone. Pixel phones have the best smartphone cameras in the market right now, especially the Pixel 2, since it has dedicated hardware for it. I can't think of any other phones that take excellent images no matter where you are or what you're doing. With other brands you'll have to either a) make sure there's enough lighting, b) be in the right place at the right time, or c) do a lot of manual post-processing, which ruins image quality.
I'm okay with my x722's image quality. It takes good shots in sunlight. Low-light performance is awful. Pretty typical experience. I don't know which sensor I have, though. I'd have to be rooted to find that out.
The Meizu M6 Note has a better sensor. Even if its camera software is awful, it's bound to be better. LeEco doesn't even try with its camera app, so Meizu has to be better.

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I wouldn't say you're guaranteed to get a Sony sensor. Some people here are reporting that their camera isn't working on custom ROMs like Paranoid Android--which means that they have a different camera sensor (I believe custom ROMs for the Pro3 variants are built with Sony drivers, but IDK). The OnePlus 3 camera is miles better than the Pro3 camera simply because OnePlus bothers to put good camera software on their phones. Not iPhone-quality, but definitely up there. When it comes to cameras, software is a lot more important, IMO. That's why the iPhone 6's camera quality holds up today, even though the phone was released in 2014. Name a single Android phone from 2014 with good camera quality today...
You are not guaranteed good camera quality from Chinese phones. Some Chinese brands claim to make this a priority, but reviews don't lie. Now, Camera2 API may improve quality, but it really depends. Camera2 API has done wonders for variants of the Xiaomi Note 4 stuck with the inferior Omnivision sensor. It's done even more for variants with Sony and Samsung sensors. And I expect it does well for the Pro3 too, since the Pro3 has a chipset with good image processing. Do your research. Look around the forum and search for camera mods. See if you like the results or not. Camera2 API requires you to root your phone.
Sorry, but if you want a flagship-worthy camera experience, you either buy an iPhone 7, 8, or X, a Samsung S8 or Note 8, an OP3T or OP5, or a Pixel phone. Pixel phones have the best smartphone cameras in the market right now, especially the Pixel 2, since it has dedicated hardware for it. I can't think of any other phones that take excellent images no matter where you are or what you're doing. With other brands you'll have to either a) make sure there's enough lighting, b) be in the right place at the right time, or c) do a lot of manual post-processing, which ruins image quality.
I'm okay with my x722's image quality. It takes good shots in sunlight. Low-light performance is awful. Pretty typical experience. I don't know which sensor I have, though. I'd have to be rooted to find that out.
The Meizu M6 Note has a better sensor. Even if its camera software is awful, it's bound to be better. LeEco doesn't even try with its camera app, so Meizu has to be better.
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Different camera sensor? Has there been a case? Doing so would be nightmare for device maintenance and unless it is a large scale company with a model that gets sold huge quantities (Samsung and Apple), it would just be a unnecessary headache without any benefit. Camera not working on certain custom roms does not indicate different sensor. Far from it. A missing or extra line on device tree or even in build.prop would cause it.
It is true that camera sucks on most of Chinese phones. They've got the hardware but unless you're shooting RAW, end result will be very poor.
However, that was the case before Google HDR+ port. That port makes dramatic different. No reason to use OnePlus camera when OnePlus users are rooting for Google HDR+.

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Different camera sensor? Has there been a case? Doing so would be nightmare for device maintenance and unless it is a large scale company with a model that gets sold huge quantities (Samsung and Apple), it would just be a unnecessary headache without any benefit. Camera not working on certain custom roms does not indicate different sensor. Far from it. A missing or extra line on device tree or even in build.prop would cause it.
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Is that so? Sorry, I didn't know that. I thought it strange that the camera would work on ROMs installed on some devices but not others.
It is true that camera sucks on most of Chinese phones. They've got the hardware but unless you're shooting RAW, end result will be very poor.
However, that was the case before Google HDR+ port. That port makes dramatic different. No reason to use OnePlus camera when OnePlus users are rooting for Google HDR+.
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Yeah, Gcam changed everything. Now phones with the worst sensors get decent shots, even at night.

No more Sony camera sensors on Qualcomm version?!

Last years all the S and Note versions use to have Sony IMX sensors on Qualcomm version and SLSI (Samsung low quality sensors) on the Exynos version.
I just test a Qualcomm version from China and I was very surprised to discover with Aida64 that Samsung uses the low quality sensors even on this Qualcomm version, only the selfie sensor is IMX from Sony.
I just wonder, in US version with Qualcomm it's the same? Becouse, I really like the IMX sensors vs Samsung ones
Just check it with AIDA64 and let us know pls. Thank You!

Confirmed...slsi on US model.

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Confirmed...slsi on US model.
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Same on Canadian

You shouldn't call them low quality, Sony is actually quite behind hardware-wise and Samsung is getting rid of it for a reason, you can very well expect the next Pixel to have an ISOCELL sensor too, it would really do wonders with good processing.
Many manufacturers are sourcing these sensors from Samsung, Apple includes them in their latest phones too
But yeah, the only Sony IMX Qualcomm S10s have is the front camera, everything else is a proprietary upgrade.
I have an Exynos and I'm very happy with the rear camera, disappointed with the front one, it's applying a pink-clear effect on skins no matter the settings and I just don't come from a culture obsessed with automatic photo editing to make faces look like plastic, I want total accuracy and I hope they give up on the Asian autophotoshop bull**** with future updates, I don't need that.