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ANTI-FANBOY DISCLAIMER:
I am aware that I am on a forum full of people that are geared towards a single OS (Android) and who are more likely than not very biased about which is "better" and which "sucks". I am aware that many are not platform agnostic and have not learned to be objective about different ecosystems. Thus, I am anticipating the possibility of anti-apple comments. Oh well.
Anyways, I just wanted to create this side note to say that I'm platform agnostic for everything and have just about every major commercial platform (Windows/Mac, Android/iOS, Wii/PS3/360). So when I do this comparison I am naturally doing it without fanboyism, although my bias does seep through as I naturally have different preferences than others (just a fact of life, different people like different things). However, I try to be as objective as possible.
Hey all,
I'm sitting here with my black Galaxy Note 16GB and white iPhone 4S 64GB and have been thinking about the two a lot lately, mainly comparing them and considering which I should go with. So here's a comparison:
iPhone 4S
TLDR: The thing "just works" with zero hassle, low time requirements to get what you need done, and pretty much everything that you want software-wise is more than satisfied.
Superior:
- Better UI interface (more intuitive, logically laid out, refined, etc) for pretty much every part of the phone
- A little more smooth in terms of performance
- Does multitasking MUCH better and it is easier to use multitasking. Its quite usual to have about 10 to 15 apps going in the background and being able to comfortably switch between them. That's simply not possible on the Note on 2.3.6 (stock firmware) or is much more difficult to do thanks to the multitasking switching method (recent apps window) and the large RAM/CPU demand of many android apps.
- Cloud sync, if you have a mac, is absolutely wonderful and works better than expected. It just works. No hassle, minimal (almost zero) setup and maintenance time.
- The sound quality on the 4S is MUCH better.
- App store is fantastic, has better apps than the Android. This can't be emphasized enough as there are numerous apps on iPhone that simply have no equivalent in terms of quality. For me, the major ones are the office suite (Keynote, Pages, Numbers) as well as a class manager app called iStudiez. I've tried the equivalents on Android and I have found them to be not up to the quality where I would be willing to use them (bad aesthetics, lacking functionality, doesn't "just work with zero hassle")
- I have zero worries about viruses, malware, etc on my iPhone
- if you know other people with iDevices running iOS 5, then FaceTime/iMessage is great.
- I like that the iPhone uses white for a lot of the background colour. The black backgrounds for the settings, messages, etc on the Note really depresses me and makes the screen seem small.
- Camera is better, and it has better anti-shaky-cam functionality. 1080p video works great and the phone handles it wonderfully. I am able to record lectures in class perfectly.
Inferior:
- The hardware is just not as good as the Note. Screen is claustrophobic/postage-stamp-size and hampers full use of the best apps (Pages, Keynote, Numbers).
- The OS and apps don't take advantage of the resolution. It might as well have a 320 x 480 resolution.
- Some people may not like that its not very customizable. I don't mind it because the stock experience is pretty much perfect. I don't HAVE to change anything. On the other hand, I don't GET to.
Galaxy Note
TLDR: Great, but not as good as the 4S in terms of software (which cripples the phone). But, this will be fixed in time and I doubt even the iPhone 5 will be able to beat the Note once the software becomes even close to being on par.
Superior:
- Hardware is wonderful. The screen allows me to use the phone in a much more advanced, useful way - especially for browsing the web. I have been reading my etextbooks on my Galaxy Note quite regularly and prefer reading off of it rather than my actual physical textbooks. That really goes to show that the Note has an amazing screen because I don't want to read my etextbooks off anything else - and I have some amazing displays at my disposal: a 17" macbook pro screen, a 17" alienware R2 RGBLED screen (best screen ever made IMO), a 27" Thunderbolt display, etc.
- S-Pen is pretty useful just with the stock apps, and I can't wait until iAnnotate comes out along with other apps.
- The OS allows me to customize it more. I don't really like this as I have a tendency to waste my time looking for good upgrades for it, but some people might.
Inferior:
- App store has very few Apps on par with the iPhone editions of them. There are some good ones but generally the quality is lower than the iPhone app store. This is the biggest con. I can't express how much this affects my use of the phone. I can't use the phone for office capabilities because polaris is glitchy, looks bad, and isn't optimized for the screen size, and there is no alternative to iStudiez that is on par with it (already tried class buddy, it's quality is not high enough to be useful to me).
- Stock experience of Android is good but is showing its age compared to the iPhone. ICS should fix this but it won't fix the lack of great apps.
- Camera is not as good, and I can't seem to take 1080p videos over a certain file size. I can't record lectures with it due to the file size thing.
- Viruses on android. My mom got her email hacked because of some stupid malware app (she has a Note and 4S too, but sold her Note because of the security vulnerability and her bad experience with getting hacked).
This review is kinda short but I don't have much free time lately as I am very busy.
The major let down for me was the app store for android. If it was on par with the iPhone app store then I would use the Note over the iPhone even though iOS is superior to Gingerbread. Though this shouldn't be around forever (I give it about two or three years before they are on par), but its crippling the phone for me.
So, what I've ended up doing is using both phones. I use the Note for internet, and the iPhone for everything else. I await the day when I can dump the iPhone as i prefer the hardware of the Note. My prediction is that ICS and its stylus support will encourage more devs onto the platform and will result in better apps, but to what degree I'm not sure. Even if it doesn't immediately result in more good apps coming out, I'm sure that within two or three years the iPhone app market will be saturated enough to persuade developers that they will get more money from Android.
EDIT: I figured out a while ago what the solution is: Buy the Galaxy Note and an iPod Touch and tether the two with wifi while on the go. It gives the best of both worlds for not all that much money (especially if you get a used iPod touch).You get the App store on the iPod touch and the hardware of the Note.
- Liquid
Does multitasking MUCH better and it is easier to use multitasking. Its quite usual to have about 10 to 15 apps going in the background and being able to comfortably switch between them. That's simply not possible on the Note on 2.3.6 (stock firmware) or is much more difficult to do thanks to the multitasking switching method (recent apps window) and the large RAM/CPU demand of many android apps.
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You really don't understand how Android multi-tasking works, do you? Or how it works on iOS, for that matter.
Im not going to bother reading it but I can tell by the longer list of "superior" items under the iphone that android is not for you. Dont want to make this a vs thread but you have no idea what your talking about. You and mom(viruses) should give up android.
Theres a reason I wont allow my wife or mom to purchase a android device. My wife uses a iphone4 and ipad2 daily. Theres absolutely nothing a iphone does better than sgs, sgs2 or note.
Funny thing is family and friends go crazy over all my android devices. With everything they can do. Christmas day, with all my friends over, watching movies/games thru mhl, and the million other things that entertained us. Bought my wife the ipad 2 for christmas and after a weeks time, the only thing that was even fun was the camera mirror photo booth app.
Out of the box android is superior to iphone. Jail-broken iphone only tries to mimic android. Funny thing is my winmo 6 devices were superior to android/iphone years ago.
and android doesnt have a app store lol.
1. 4S is can NOT be jailbroken, the devs are not even close to a solution.
2. Siri, is a gimmick and send all the voice data to apple for processing, this in turn increases your data usage.
3. The visible hardware is unchanged from iPhone4 and Androids have moved ages ahead.
4. iPhone4S has some Simcard issues. Loss of network is the result.
5. The iPhone UI is unchanged since the first 2G. Thats a lot of years of using the same UI. Most people didn't upgrade to 4S from 4 (including me) as the external form factor and the UI was the same. I just couldn't justify spending a bomb on a new fone that looks exactly the same and has the same interface.
6. Theme support? You can not put winterboard or dreamboard ,if you are not jailbroken.
7. iMessage although a nice concept has its own issues. It doesnt come close to Whatsapp or Blackberry Messenger.
The positive things about an iphone is the the resale value due to the novelty value is good and the Accessories that are available. Like the Indash DVD unit of my car syncs to ipod/iphone the Kicker music dock syncs to iphone/ipod etc.
Apple with iPhone 5 will really have to come up with something radical to catch up with the droids i believe.
Edit : How could i forget iPhone are marred by the fact that iTunes exists.
PS. I'm not a Droid fanboy, i used to be a apple fanboy.
Croak said:
You really don't understand how Android multi-tasking works, do you? Or how it works on iOS, for that matter.
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It might be right, that LiquidNitrogen have no idea about dalvik, JVME or JIT-Compiling. What he does is: He is sharing his experience with both devices and the point is, that LiquidNitrogen loves the "no hassle" thing and uses the devices stock - like thousands of people do!
His arguments are only subjective and not scientificaly prooved and thats what apple is turning in to their business: they create products with zero-hassle-experience! Even my Mom could use an Iphone, and she allready has problems using a TV Remote
For me, i like hassle. I want to customize the look of my device and utilize it for doing what i want to, since WinMo 5.0... Android is just perfect for me.
I allways used big screen devices like HTC Universal, Dell Streak, etc.
I cannot understand how apple can sell a poststamp-sized-screen-phone for 700 bucks.... and: i would never buy this device since iTunes is an "must-have" thing. I hate iTunes, there is nothing worse than iTunes. my sister calls me once a week: "i just downloaded a video in .flv format, how can i make iTunes sync this with my iphohe?" you guys know what i mean ;-)
I don't have an iphone, but I thought your post was pretty objective.
Of course, this being the internet, you'll get flamed no matter what you do.
Some things I'd comment on:
LiquidNitrogen said:
pretty much everything that you want software-wise is more than satisfied.
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Software is always personal choice. I think as long as you have facebook, twitter, and angry birds, you satisfy 95% of the general public. That's a slight exaggeration, but not by much actually.
LiquidNitrogen said:
I like that the iPhone uses white for a lot of the background colour.
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I absolutely hate white backgrounds since It's just a battery drainer.
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- The OS and apps don't take advantage of the resolution. It might as well have a 320 x 480 resolution.
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I assume you mean fonts/buttons are still large - this is a result of the small screen. Even on the note, some tablet apps are just too painful to use. The text is just too small.
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I don't mind it because the stock experience is pretty much perfect. I don't HAVE to change anything. On the other hand, I don't GET to.
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See 'the paradox of choice'
- Frank
This post made me laugh. The iPhone having better multitasking? Really? No. the iPhone freezes your app that's "open" and there is no "multi tasking" it's monotasking with an icon to reopen where you were.
Cloud sync? Really? I haven't had to backup my contacts in years. Nor my calendar. I have sugarsync and dropbox, mostly sugarsync since I have a paid account with them, for my desktop. I also use it on my phone. It automatically backs up pictures and videos and any folders I want every day on my terms: wifi, plugged in. I don't see "cloud sync" as a pro for iOS. Especially not since it JUST came out. I've been syncing since my blackberry days to Google Contacts and Calendar.
Data usage on the iPhone is also a lot higher. Your email app for example loads emails AGAIN and AGAIN every time you open the email you want to see! Great way to lose data on silly things.
I used an iPhone 4 for almost a year, (that's a long time for me, check my signature), and I liked it but I got SOOO bored :
Tiny screen (not small, TINY...)
UI was so outdated, even though smooth. I'd prefer functional over esthetics. On my Notes desktop I have widgets for everything I need, and direct shortcuts to everything else. In 2 clicks I have wifi, gps, volume, etc. Access to a ton of features. Turning on / off wifi on the iphone is a pain. I'd imagine they did it on purpose as to be too much of a pain to turn it on and then you'd just use your data connection, use more data, and get carriers more money (back to the constant reloading of data)
Games were fun! But they were on such a small screen that text was almost illegible.
Multitasking took FOREVER. Many times I would want to reload an app, and since it wasn't made for saved-state, it would reload! And then there's the whole RELOADING of the app entirely if your ram ran out and your phone decided to recycle it completely while still showing that it's running.
Regardless, I DO agree that the iPhone just works. I also find that they made a huge profit margin on the same product (iphone 4 --> 4s) due to the same frame, screen, memory, buttons, etc.
That's a huge waste for us. Don't people want innovation? Choices? Apple gives you 1 iphone a year, with the same form factor, and the ONLY thing you can choose is memory and color. What if you could only get a car in 2 colors, and if it's a v6 or v8? Everyone would hate that. I think apple limits technology. I do believe Apple does do some things right though: user experience. Just because I love to tinker doesn't mean others do. Cameras, they have fantastic cameras in their phones. And that's about my limit. Ohh... and hyping a device They're good at that, too. haha.
These are my personal opinions. My mom uses a motorola flipout because it's got a physical keyboard. She likes her memory games and simple things that a crappy device gives her. She doesn't need a 600 euro phone (iPhone) that doesn't do anything better than her current 120 euro (unlocked) flipout that I got her 8 months ago, especially for her. Apple doesn't give her the choice for devices. Android devices do: they come in all shapes, prices, sizes and colors.
The OP was very respectful and quite accurate in his shared ideas.
At least as for the sound quality goes the iPhone headphone out trumps the Note one in terms of resolution and soundstage (Easily audible thru my Westone UM3x).
And that's a fact. As the lack of a clean line out is another fact. For music iPhone is still the king however you look at it.
For reading and browisng the Note trumps the iPhone. Obviously.
In the end the OP prefers the Note because of the screen. I don't see any fanboysm on him.
His view on the Android app market is spot on. Android fragmentation prevents apps to reach the quality level that they feature on iOS. It seems that ICS will fight that fragmentation.
IMO, in simplest terms, the iPhone and Note just caters to different people with different tastes.
In terms of library, iOS has a more robust environment compared to Android. And the fact that iOS apps simply "just works" is one feature that people would pay, rather than getting into a hassle.
Convenience has always been the market of choice for Apple, and it delivers.
And no, i do not own an iPhone, but my cousin has one, and i mostly assist when she needs to access the iOS market, so i have an idea of how robust this is.
Granted, the note works "out of the box", but the name of the game is customization, and android delivers. Especially when you decide to "root", and you just have a device, free from restrictions, and capable of becoming anything you want it to (granted, it is within the possibility).
I enjoy tinkering my note. Encountered plethoras of problems, and have grown wiser from it. Learned the capabilities and limitations of my device, and keep pushing it to its limits and beyond.
The note is a modders' dream come true.
I agree that iPhone is easier to use. I also agree that the Note is more superior compared to it. What i don't agree with, is labeling iPhone is superior/inferior to Note, because, based on how you use it, it always boils down to personal preference.
I am not fond of countering arguments, because in the simplest terms, they are just opinions. And opinions basically goes two ways. It's either you agree with it, or you disagree with it, and provide a counter argument.
Any device without a back button = FAIL
Croak said:
You really don't understand how Android multi-tasking works, do you? Or how it works on iOS, for that matter.
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I disqualified all his review as soon as I read about his opinion regarding multitasking... he has no opinion and doesn't know that ios is a half backed multitasking... lol and let me not start about his cloudsync or even Sirius lol
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You really don't understand how Android multi-tasking works, do you? Or how it works on iOS, for that matter.
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How it works under the hood is only for geeks, 99.99% of the users only care about the user experience and for him its easier on iOS. No need to complicate things.
luv the note but !!!
feel embarassed to use the iphone headset wid it coz the one which came wid the note suckss .rest note is a beast.
Fair comparison, I don't and wont use apple myself but when some friends of mine that are totally clueless about tech stuff ask me what to get. I tell them to get an apple, they work as are and don't need any customization simply because it doesn't let you.
A more techy person will prefer android as its much more open and to get the best out of it you need to get down and dirty a little. Apple is simple and fairly idiot proof thats why the Idiots prefer them only joking lol.
I love the title a small iphone 4s vs NOTE
I have not read your post either since this kind of opinions has become too boring.
But will instead give you one piece of advice:
Whoever bought theGNote is unlikely to go back to IPhone, that's why this kind of comparison are useless. Just an hour ago went to meet a client, he was with a group of friends first thing he does seeing me: Hey Jack is that Samsung of yours with you?
-sure
They compare it with their IPhones, they want to watch a movie,just yesterday downloaded Paul with HD quality,their eyes pop up!!
Is this also a phone? One of them asks, -yes.
They want to see the camera, they are impressed after seeing the Spen.
-how much you said you paid for it?.
And no I don't work for Samsung,you don't have to since people have eyes to see.They want F#####g CHOICES, not just one form factor, telling you either take it or take it. !!
hagba said:
I have not read your post either since this kind of opinions has become too boring.
But will instead give you one piece of advice:
Whoever bought theGNote is unlikely to go back to IPhone, that's why this kind of comparison are useless. Just an hour ago went to meet a client, he was with a group of friends first thing he does seeing me: Hey Jack is that Samsung of yours with you?
-sure
They compare it with their IPhones, they want to watch a movie,just yesterday downloaded Paul with HD quality,their eyes pop up!!
Is this also a phone? One of them asks, -yes.
They want to see the camera, they are impressed after seeing the Spen.
-how much you said you paid for it?.
And no I don't work for Samsung,you don't have to since people have eyes to see.They want F#####g CHOICES, not just one form factor, telling you either take it or take it. !!
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+1. I chose to buy my Note over an iPhone for such reasons. Though I'm ever more concerned of wowing myself than other people.
But I do have to agree to one point in the review: Android market needs a little more apps, more specifically - games! But I'm pretty sure it'll catch up in no time so no pressure. On the productivity side, what we have now is more than good enough.
App selection aside, the iPhone is just like an Android phone that doesn't let you change mostly anything. (which is also in the review ) It starts of great but stays there. Androids can potentially start crappy, but if you know what you're doing you can make it better like, ten to hundredfold.
This thread is troll bait if I ever saw it...Must not reply...must not reply...lol
hackerboi said:
1. 4S is can NOT be jailbroken, the devs are not even close to a solution.
2. Siri, is a gimmick and send all the voice data to apple for processing, this in turn increases your data usage.
3. The visible hardware is unchanged from iPhone4 and Androids have moved ages ahead.
4. iPhone4S has some Simcard issues. Loss of network is the result.
5. The iPhone UI is unchanged since the first 2G. Thats a lot of years of using the same UI. Most people didn't upgrade to 4S from 4 (including me) as the external form factor and the UI was the same. I just couldn't justify spending a bomb on a new fone that looks exactly the same and has the same interface.
6. Theme support? You can not put winterboard or dreamboard ,if you are not jailbroken.
7. iMessage although a nice concept has its own issues. It doesnt come close to Whatsapp or Blackberry Messenger.
The positive things about an iphone is the the resale value due to the novelty value is good and the Accessories that are available. Like the Indash DVD unit of my car syncs to ipod/iphone the Kicker music dock syncs to iphone/ipod etc.
Apple with iPhone 5 will really have to come up with something radical to catch up with the droids i believe.
Edit : How could i forget iPhone are marred by the fact that iTunes exists.
PS. I'm not a Droid fanboy, i used to be a apple fanboy.
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one major reason why I came back to android after getting the iphone 4s awful network faults, buggy its oh and locked down fymware never again will I own anything apple note rocks love it
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EarlZ said:
How it works under the hood is only for geeks, 99.99% of the users only care about the user experience and for him its easier on iOS. No need to complicate things.
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This.
Also, I do know the basics of how multi-tasking works on iOS vs Android, but not enough to make comments about it so I didn't. I based the multi-tasking comment on how the average non-techie person would interpret the phone. I get 6 apps in Android's "recent apps" list and I get as many as I want in iOS's multi-tasking 'tray'/'bar'. Also, I didn't make a comment about apps being frozen by iOS simply because of this question: Do I notice it? The answer is no. I rarely, if ever, notice that my apps are being frozen. And when I do, I don't care. On Android, I DO notice that I can't pull up more than six apps easily. I also notice that I can't play youtube and other videos in the background on the Note, which annoys me to no end. This will be fixed in ICS though, if I remember correctly.
As for the back button thing, yes it certainly is a pro for Android. On the downside, it doesn't always perform correctly. I anticipate this being solved in ICS though. Gingerbread, to me, feels full of 'beginner/basic mistakes' that will be probably solved in ICS. I didn't mention most of them because of that.
Also, I am aware that my comparison is very top heavy in terms of more stuff written about iPhone then the Note, but I just ran out of steam by the end of my article.
As for rooting/jailbreaking, I didn't include either as I don't have experience with either, and I also didn't include it as the average person does not know how to do that nor will end up doing it if given the option: either because they don't want to, don't have the time to, don't have the knowledge/techie-skills to, etc. I tried to base my article around what the average user might experience than the advanced stuff.
On a side note, I've noticed a lot of flamey/poorly-written comments. Oh well. I expected it, even though I don't root for one device or the other. Please take note of how I didn't say "The iPhone is better" or "The Note is better" but rather just listed features where one felt superior/inferior to the other. Basically a pro's/con's list. I did this because, objectively speaking, neither is better or worse than the other.
Also I didn't even mention Siri, but from some comments here some people think that I did - which is an obvious tipoff that a lot of people are commenting without reading. Anyways, perhaps I should have mentioned Siri, but I didn't. Why? I never really use it. Same with the voice functionality on the Note. If I did, however, have to choose one or the other, I would definitely choose Siri - just because of the way its setup and the things I can do with it. Whenever I have used siri it is when I have the phone in my pocket and don't feel like answering a text or otherwise pulling the phone out, so I long-press on the button on my headphones and just tell Siri what I want. She gets it right most of the time.
I also didn't mention that the iPhone has a superior physical design. The metal and glass design looks amazing. I didn't mention it, however, because I always have it in a case, so I hardly see it. It also makes it very heavy. The Note feels kind of cheap if I had to comment about it, at least in comparison to the iPhone, but its part of the reason why its light so its forgivable, and I never really notice the quality difference between the 4S and the Note.
Also, BIG DIFFERENCE between the Note and the 4S that I didn't think to write: the 4S is very scratch resistant and the screen just feels more durable. My Note's screen gets scratched very easily and the glass on it feels much less durable.
Another difference is that the volume rocker and the power button on the Note are right where I always want to grab it to pull it out of my pocket or a case or whatever. I often always pretty the power button by accident while holding the phone. It's very annoying. However, I realize that they did it that way because the top of the phone is too far to reach with the hand that is holding the phone. If I was given the choice, though, I wouldn't change the power button and volume rocker configuration - but it is annoying. Also, I usually don't have that problem with the iPhone and if I do it is just the volume buttons I end up pressing.
Also, another interesting social aspect of the Note vs iPhone: When I got my iPhone, my friends with Android phones flamed me to no end (and still flame me to this day). However, when I got the Note, my friends with iPhones didn't make a single negative comment and complimented me on it. This may be unique to my situation but it's just another difference I noticed.
What's also interesting is that the S-Pen on my Note is much more sensitive and better to use than the one on my parents Note. Both were stock and running the same firmware, and came from the same source and carrier (and probably batch).
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As for the back button thing, yes it certainly is a pro for Android. On the downside, it doesn't always perform correctly..
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Used SGS, SGS II, now using SGN - never faced any problem.
Two things I liked about the white iPhone 4 and the Black iPhone 4S I had was they had very good resell value and a really pretty girl wanted to see my white iPhone and we had coffee together.
Please don't close this thread soon, i am in real headache and really need some thoughts from only those users who have used latest Android Devices and iPhone 5/5s.
Hi there, i am facing some serious issues about buying either Note 3 or iPhone 5s. To further explain my last few phones in order are HTC One X, iPhone 5 again iPhone 5 and lastly i sold LG G2. LG G2 i believe is best in android just because of lack of brand value i sold it as i got good offer as compared to market.
I thought to buy smaller iPhone 5s, just to be able to do everything, fine living with no songs sharing, limitations, but fast, fluid and small in hand and pocket. Now Note 3 which i hated, specially S pen, but better brand value, more things to be able to do, but same messy android and touch wiz?
Spoiled for choice, only one have to make.
May be i should somehow hold and play with both, both phones have some to give and something to take.
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Problem simplified. Trimmed my situation into two choice:
Option 1 (Big, tough to carry, more real estate + Android, more possibilities, sharing and mess)
VS
Option 2 (Small, easy to carry around + less feature simple life fluid and pretty)
You say you hated Note 3, so what's the problem. Go with iPhone 5S. That's a fantastic phone, and I'm not being sarcastic. I'm not an Android fanboy, I call it as it is.
Be careful however, iPhone 6 will come out in near future and it'll likely be very different from this generation of iPhones, likely with a bigger screen, so your iPhone 5S will start looking old.
Hate S-pen !
if you hate Note 3 specially for S-pen then you won't find anything more in Note 3 not in LG G2.(not to mention bigger screen )
and i don't think buying a phone based on its brand value is a good thing; buy a phone that is amusing you.
hope this help.
i have both and they are completely different things. I think that if you can use big screen (you really have to believe) go for note 3. has better screen and more options and of course rooting.
iphone 5s has touch id which is very very useful for buying apps and games while you are using your pass. more compact. has jailbreak (not fully compatible yet) and it is classic apple if you can manage to use it…
final words; if you play games use office and want bigger, more crisp screen go for note 3, if you think you want compact daily use and not customised phone, go for i5s.
thanks.
Whenni allready haf my note 3 i bought an 5S to try it out and see why so much ppl love iphone. After 8 days i sold it again and switched back to my note 3.
You can't do sh*t with an iphone. No customisation. The way whatsapp works suvks balls and no support for sharing. Lets say you want to share a picture from your photo album you cannot choose bluetooth or whatsapp or dropbox or whatever. You must do all things within the designated app. Total BS. No custpm mp3 ringtones because non synced mp3 will not be supported and all that crap.
Hope my anti apple rant helped you.
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aydc said:
You say you hated Note 3, so what's the problem. Go with iPhone 5S. That's a fantastic phone, and I'm not being sarcastic. I'm not an Android fanboy, I call it as it is.
Be careful however, iPhone 6 will come out in near future and it'll likely be very different from this generation of iPhones, likely with a bigger screen, so your iPhone 5S will start looking old.
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Thanks for the reply brother. I hated Note 3 when i bought G2, due to massive size and weight of stylus, now when i sold G2 i am open to choices, so just thinking bigger screen can be advantage as well as headache, like you can do anything in android, if i can bear Big size, on the other hand i decided iPhone5s just being smaller and easy to carry and use, thinking too much small size will be just ok, as watching website is not ideal on any mobile for that you have laptop.
As i think, both have advantages and disadvantages, and it will come down to just size, which size i may prefer. too many options in android can be headache for me, simple iPhone where you can't do a **** can be easy. Well !
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You say you hated Note 3, so what's the problem. Go with iPhone 5S. That's a fantastic phone, and I'm not being sarcastic. I'm not an Android fanboy, I call it as it is.
Be careful however, iPhone 6 will come out in near future and it'll likely be very different from this generation of iPhones, likely with a bigger screen, so your iPhone 5S will start looking old.
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You are right, i was so much satisfied with LG G2 too, just was bit down due to no market value, and when i got good offer from someone, i thought to sale it, as later it wont bring this money, plus i dont like physical home buttons on touch devices, but now i have to have it. One of these two phones i have to buy now hopefully with determination not to sale them again
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i have both and they are completely different things. I think that if you can use big screen (you really have to believe) go for note 3. has better screen and more options and of course rooting.
iphone 5s has touch id which is very very useful for buying apps and games while you are using your pass. more compact. has jailbreak (not fully compatible yet) and it is classic apple if you can manage to use it…
final words; if you play games use office and want bigger, more crisp screen go for note 3, if you think you want compact daily use and not customised phone, go for i5s.
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Thanks for great guidance. I only rooted and applied custom roms to my once x10 mini, apart from that i never used custom rom just because of reading many people brick devices and confusions and all that, not something clear. I used iPhone 5 twice and i know what is that and only thing i specially hate is you cant share song over whatsapp.
Yeah, deciding factor will be size, if i can live with gigantic size in pocket, i should go for note and may be get cm11 with installer, if i will get iphone, i will only get because i dont want to deal with root and flashing.
I really don't see the point of this thread... You said yourself you hated the note 3.....so why even bother with this post. Just get the iPhone5s and be done with it. You don't even want to put custom rom on the phone and with the other issues like Knox and the likes. Just get an iPhone5s
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I really don't see the point of this thread... You said yourself you hated the note 3.....so why even bother with this post. Just get the iPhone5s and be done with it. You don't even want to put custom rom on the phone and with the other issues like Knox and the likes. Just get an iPhone5s
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Its like i don't hate any platform, i didnt like samsung note 3 due to physical home button and size, but i know somehow android can be more beneficial with bigger screen and all, now i have option of both, thats why considering both, with iPhone i have to lose things too, any ways, yeah i wanna avoid custom roms being not clear or easy way to do it, though i love stock android appearance so much. Just got choice thats making me confuse, eventually i know i have to decide one my self as i know most things my self about both platform and phones, tough choice for a guy like me who is not fanboy and who has open choice to make. In the end i say whichever i get, i may get working set.
My brother have both note 1 and ip 5..he said to me ip5 is not good due to all the hustle just when u want to transfer file which required to be convert etc using itunes..make simple job become complicated..
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Since you post the question in the Note 3 box so the answer should be the Note 3.
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Whenni allready haf my note 3 i bought an 5S to try it out and see why so much ppl love iphone. After 8 days i sold it again and switched back to my note 3.
You can't do sh*t with an iphone. No customisation. The way whatsapp works suvks balls and no support for sharing. Lets say you want to share a picture from your photo album you cannot choose bluetooth or whatsapp or dropbox or whatever. You must do all things within the designated app. Total BS. No custpm mp3 ringtones because non synced mp3 will not be supported and all that crap.
Hope my anti apple rant helped you.
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Well you sold iPhone after 8 days because your needs are very much android like. I liked iPhone twice just becauseyou can't change built in programs like sms, which saved me from tension of which one to chose, so much choices like its tension which to use and which not, one feature is good in one, other feature is good in second app. Yes sharing is an issue but only sharing songs are issue, pics can be shared with whatsapp and everything can be shared in dropbox app and songs can be downloaded via third party app like file master, yes sharing songs via whatsapp is my only grudge, another draw back is apps are not free unless you jail break, which i dont do.
Custom ring tones, i am not fan of songs as ring tones and built ones are just classic, yet you can have custome ringtone too.
Well, your above mention weakness are strength for others and i fall in between of both. wish i could hate one of them like you completely
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My brother have both note 1 and ip 5..he said to me ip5 is not good due to all the hustle just when u want to transfer file which required to be convert etc using itunes..make simple job become complicated..
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Valid point, massive advantage, in android you can share or receive any **** ever discovered, and in iPhone you have to stop thinking about sharing with ease or share or sync on holidays lol
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Please don't close this thread soon, i am in real headache and really need some thoughts from only those users who have used latest Android Devices and iPhone 5/5s.
Hi there, i am facing some serious issues about buying either Note 3 or iPhone 5s. To further explain my last few phones in order are HTC One X, iPhone 5 again iPhone 5 and lastly i sold LG G2. LG G2 i believe is best in android just because of lack of brand value i sold it as i got good offer as compared to market.
I thought to buy smaller iPhone 5s, just to be able to do everything, fine living with no songs sharing, limitations, but fast, fluid and small in hand and pocket. Now Note 3 which i hated, specially S pen, but better brand value, more things to be able to do, but same messy android and touch wiz?
Spoiled for choice, only one have to make.
May be i should somehow hold and play with both, both phones have some to give and something to take.
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Problem simplified. Trimmed my situation into two choice:
Option 1 (Big, tough to carry, more real estate + Android, more possibilities, sharing and mess)
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Option 2 (Small, easy to carry around + less feature simple life fluid and pretty)
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I used 16 GB 5s Gold color for 10 days & exchange it for note 3, don’t like to cary charger all the time, Installed only few apps & available storage was only 8GB left, no photos or video stored, I like hardware of apple but without sd card & enough battery life NO to apple.
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I used 16 GB 5s Gold color for 10 days & exchange it for note 3, don’t like to cary charger all the time, Installed only few apps & available storage was only 8GB left, no photos or video stored, I like hardware of apple but without sd card & enough battery life NO to apple.
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Yeah, you reminded me, battery is the biggest issue and difference between the two, when i had iPhone 5 twice, it use to last working hours, i was playing games rarely, push was on, with LG G2 battery was massive edge and i feel, Note 3 should be same good in battery.
Yes since i am posting it in Note 3, answer should be Note 3, i have nothing personal against it, when i will try it in some store, i will see if i can carry the monster around with me or not. Another guy has note 3 and its so big against his face and in hands, i wonder how to do it.
Let me make a statement here. A guy above said since Android has ability to change default apps, its cool, which iOS can't. Let me say?
IS ANDROID USELESS AND GARBAGE TO USE, IF YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO RISK ROOT, FLASHING, I MEAN WITHOUT THIS, YOU CAN ENJOY/USE EVEN THE HIGH END ANDROID PHONE? FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT INTERESTED IN ROOTING? SHOULD NOT CONSIDER ANDROID?
That's what i think, you guys give your opinion. To further back my point, Every one knows LG G2 SMS app was ****, same can be said about Samsung SMS App as well, it was easy to use Hangout which i life being neat, even though lacks features like pop up, but i could not remove or disable LG SMS App without root, which means even if i hide it in Launcher phone always using two apps for same thing? is this not bul****? to use Android? you need to get comfortable with rooting and stuff?
For S Pen Fans?
This question is for S Pen Fans?
I have a shop, i work there, deal with customers, i am normal smart phone user, who is using smartphones since Nokia 6600, way back then.
I understand and i am convinced, Apple changed game, brough touch screen phones to limelight and everything changed? Ruined Nokia of which i was fan.
Now How and due to what Apple managed to change the game? Apple managed to change game by screwing Stylus and bringing finger input method, it was death of stylus, turn out to be stylus was bull****. Now we got rid of it and Samsung, who don't know how to make smooth UI, put it back and telling me its selling feature, fine.
I want fans of S Pen to tell me, how S Pen can help me to use my phone better to those phones without it, like LG G2. Solve my this problem as well, Please. Don't tell me, to make paintings, to write notes, you can type neater, faster and better, and don't even tell me of hover effects, i rather turn those battery enemies and lag friends anyways.
I've had both, I got bored by the fact you can't do much on the iPhone so returned it. Put it this way, the note 3 does everything the iPhone can, and better in every way.
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Note 3 size is usually only an issue for a short time. You get used to it very quickly and then when you pick up iPhone you laugh and say how can anyone function on this puny little joke of a screen. Just my personal opinion. I'll never go back to small screen. 6 inch is perfect for me. 7 might even be sometime in the not to distant future.
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Yeah, you reminded me, battery is the biggest issue and difference between the two, when i had iPhone 5 twice, it use to last working hours, i was playing games rarely, push was on, with LG G2 battery was massive edge and i feel, Note 3 should be same good in battery.
Yes since i am posting it in Note 3, answer should be Note 3, i have nothing personal against it, when i will try it in some store, i will see if i can carry the monster around with me or not. Another guy has note 3 and its so big against his face and in hands, i wonder how to do it.
Let me make a statement here. A guy above said since Android has ability to change default apps, its cool, which iOS can't. Let me say?
IS ANDROID USELESS AND GARBAGE TO USE, IF YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO RISK ROOT, FLASHING, I MEAN WITHOUT THIS, YOU CAN ENJOY/USE EVEN THE HIGH END ANDROID PHONE? FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT INTERESTED IN ROOTING? SHOULD NOT CONSIDER ANDROID?
That's what i think, you guys give your opinion. To further back my point, Every one knows LG G2 SMS app was ****, same can be said about Samsung SMS App as well, it was easy to use Hangout which i life being neat, even though lacks features like pop up, but i could not remove or disable LG SMS App without root, which means even if i hide it in Launcher phone always using two apps for same thing? is this not bul****? to use Android? you need to get comfortable with rooting and stuff?
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My Dear Sir, It seems to be u already have iPhone 5s & came to this forum just to find out whether your decision is right or wrong,When u your self is not convince about Note 3 whatever We will say no use, If really you want to buy mobile go to store compare & buy,matter FINISH.
I am happy to be back in the Nexus 6 community after a 3 month break to seriously try out the iPhone 6+. I finally succumbed to my kids badgering me to get an iPhone. I though that I would share some of the good and bad. I have been an android user since the original Sprint Hero and have always been happy with the operating platforms. Three months ago I put away my N6 for an iPhone 6+. I gave it 3 months to really try the OS, the apps, and the general ecosystem of the phone.
The Good:
The iPhone 6+ integrates perfectly with a Mac and iPad. Calls, texts (from other iMessage users) generally show up in all 3 places. You never have to switch devices to answer a text.
Battery life was by far the best from any phone that I have ever used. I generally charged every other day with similar use my N6 needs a daily charge.
The screen is bright and readable, crisp and clear.
The build quality is of course top notch.
The phone is fast and fluid - even with 1G of RAM.
Updates - you never have to wait once released.
The Not So Good:
I have my N6 set up so when I unlock it I see my calendar, weather, alarms, txts, and email. With the iPhone I was always just looking at apps. I know I could swipe down for notifications and see all of the above - but it was just one more step.
Files were a total pain - I always had to upload them out of dropbox. Copy and paste from the web to a document, email, or text - there is most likely a way but I never found a good one.
You cannot list the apps in ABC order. I was always hunting around for the app that I wanted.
No real widgets.
The Worst (for me)
The screen was just too small. I want a device that I could use as both a phone and a tablet, and the iPhone was just not big enough.
Call quality - I could hear just fine, however everyone I talked to said I sounded like I was under water even with a headset.
Its somewhat vain but with an iPhone you are just like everyone else. At least the N6 stands out!
I am happy to be back with the N6. It seems to just do more of what I want. Hope this helps anyone considering doing the same.
Welcome back to the future !
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I am happy to be back with the N6. It seems to just do more of what I want. Hope this helps anyone considering doing the same.
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Good comparison. I hope you don't mind that I add mine.
The iPhone design is better. Flat back, better grip, less weight.
The user interface with white background is modern. Nice icons.
The iPhone still has a LCD display with backlight.
The N6 with amoled display and a higher resolution is a lot better.
But Google copied the white background design from the iPhone and that is not so friendly for my eyes and causes battery drain.
Than the 'regime'. Apple has a lot of dictations.
The Nexus policy has more freedom. Nexus phones are easy to root.
Last but not least the price. iPhones are a lot more expensive.
Register at Google; credit card is optional. At Apple it's necessary.
Just interested to know if Samsung have convinced enough iOS users to switch to Android with this phone.
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Not yet but I am switching back to Android after owning the iPhone 6+ and 6S+. I've been using iOS since last June and I am already missing Android too much not to switch back. Just trying to decide whether or not it will be the GS7.
I did, thank god.
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Just interested to know if Samsung have convinced enough iOS users to switch to Android with this phone.
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I have been using a iphone 6 plus for the last year. It was a good enough phone I guess. I really missed the customization of android. I have only had my s7 edge for about 4 hours. I can say it kicks butt all over the iphone 6 plus so far. its nice to be back with android and samsung.
Made the switch. from 6S+.
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Not yet but I am switching back to Android after owning the iPhone 6+ and 6S+. I've been using iOS since last June and I am already missing Android too much not to switch back. Just trying to decide whether or not it will be the GS7.
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It's pretty much the phone to go for I reckon if you are considering switching. Especially the Edge version.
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I have been using a iphone 6 plus for the last year. It was a good enough phone I guess. I really missed the customization of android. I have only had my s7 edge for about 4 hours. I can say it kicks butt all over the iphone 6 plus so far. its nice to be back with android and samsung.
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I love to hear replies like this!
IPhone, 6S touch screen is still better. The s7 is too sensitive. Also for some reason in clash of clans the resolution is downscaled.
I switched from a 6s plus. Prior to that I had a 6 plus. All before was mainly Android except for a few false starts with iOS. Loving it so far.
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I just changed from a 6+ had it for a year. Started off from original iPhone and stuck with them up to iPhone 4, but then it was all the same crap. Got fed up of having to jailbreak every phone just to be able to do what you can with a standard android. Then went through a few androids until apple launched the 6+. the big screen drew me in and all I can say is that its STILL the same crap I left years ago. Couldn't wait for the S7 edge to come out so I could dump the iPhone!
I've been using the iphone since 4s. I recently switched from my 6splus to 7edge. I like the edge, but really miss the wifi calling on the iphone. I'm with ATT and hope they make wifi calling available for the edge. I don't get decent service at my house and need the wifi calling. I have a microcell, but it doesn't always work. I may have to go back to the 6s plus. I do love the edge screen and size.
From Tattoo>Captivate>One X>Nexus 5>iPhone 6+>S7E. The S7 edge is an upgrade but I'm quite fond of how the iPhone has minimal crapware and just works. I've probably grown soft in my old age though.
I'm using this side by side with my 6S plus, last galaxy I used was the note edge before that I used the galaxy 5. From my experience first Galaxy I've used that I would call a worthy iPhone Rival. Loving the S7 edge, runs silky smooth like my 6S, haven't had any hiccups or problems. Runs amazing, I don't think I would pick it over my phone but too use both its great. What really holds me to my iPhone is iCloud and iMessage.
After years of android, figured I would try apple... got 6s+ on launch day in september.... what a joke, I couldn't wait for the S7.... it was a nice phone but it lacked a lot of little stupid chit that should be in place
That and couldn't handle the macrumor forum people.... Its like a star wars cult
I did, but it's not because I think one is insanely better than the other - I've had literally tons of phones over the past few years, and I just like to switch back and forth every little while. I got my S7E on Next, and I'll just buy the next iPhone outright, so then I'll have the best of both worlds all the time.
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I just changed from a 6+ had it for a year. Started off from original iPhone and stuck with them up to iPhone 4, but then it was all the same crap. Got fed up of having to jailbreak every phone just to be able to do what you can with a standard android. Then went through a few androids until apple launched the 6+. the big screen drew me in and all I can say is that its STILL the same crap I left years ago. Couldn't wait for the S7 edge to come out so I could dump the iPhone!
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How are you finding the S7? Is there much of a learning curve when using Android?
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Always a learning curve but not difficult. I find the number of setup options a tad overwhelming but like the flexibility.
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To be honest the android system doesn't feel that different to when I last had an android phone. Few more options to use but it's not too hard to pick up.
I'm experimenting with this transition, yeah. Coming from an iPhone 6s Plus to the S7 Edge. Mixed feelings so far, but I'm chronicling the experience in more detail on my blog.
We only got our Canadian pre-orders on Friday so it's still early, but some initial thoughts:
- Samsung nailed it on physical design and size, feels really excellent in the hand
- The screen lives up to the hype, minus a faulty pixel that I have to replace this unit because of
- TouchWiz has come a long way since I last used it (Galaxy S4), as has Android
- The iPhone is smoother and faster at a lot of things (processing photos, navigating the UI, opening certain apps, etc. This is to be expected because of the longer animations and lower resolution, but that's not really meaningful in a daily use context
- I experienced a hard crash while performing a simple Google search on the stock browser, which didn't make a good first impression but might be because this unit is wonky (faulty pixel and all). Had to soft reset to bring it back to life
- So far the camera is a really mixed bag...thank goodness I can shoot RAW because the stock JPG processing is surprisingly awful. Shame since the camera hardware is so promising.
- Battery life doesn't look like it's going to hold a candle to my iPhone, but it'll definitely get me through a day of heavy use, which I suppose is reasonable
Anyway, that's just a scattered set of first impressions.
Getting my S7 edge tomorrow, from an i6+. Been using an iPhone since iPhone 4s, prior to that was Note 2. I can't seem to remember but having to wait for a jailbreak just to change themes, keyboards and install an adblocker seemed to be getting on my nerves as of late, with the jailbreak for the latest iOS version taking so long to get released.
I have been an Apple user for many years (i.e iPhone, iPad and MacBook Pro), but I abandoned Osx by the amount of work needed to jailbreak for example, while Android Os is such open, extensible, and interoperable.
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Back from days of Symbian, i have used many smartphones, recently i changed from iPhone 6s to S7, for a change, but touchwiz, or mess of uneven Android apps, lack of silky smoothness, and strange app designs, for example huge header of WhatsApp App, different font size in WhatsApp App's text entry box and bubbles text.
I was amazed reading this story by XDA, http://www.xda-developers.com/with-...delivers-embarrassing-real-world-performance/
wow i don't think like this alone, If i compare it iPhone 6s,
- this phone is not smooth, only Nexus is almost as smooth as iPhone
- even though its a mettle phone, but by looks its same as galaxy s3 bu looks, not by material,
- Its best in stutters, ugliness of software, among all Android Phones, with LG is close 2nd.
- display is good, but being an average user, i find it not different than the iPhone display in real world usage.
- better, battery is the only benefit i am getting from this phone
- with camera i only take pictures of samples and send them over WhatsApp, so both are same.
I feel Samsung must die or learn and make Android closer to stock, they are selling phones only due to marketing and good hardware. Even baby companies like OnePlus can implement Android better than Sammy.
Do you guys agree or think i am crazy!
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I'd normally say it's just your own experience and opinion, but given the options you've presented, I'm going with crazy
I love my S7. It's the best phone I've ever had. Mine is butter-smooth, looks and feels awesome, gets an update every month and has an phenomenal camera. I can't agree with you about the screen either--it's worthy of all the praise that's been heaped on it.
Samsung sales and profits are up right now, and Apple's are down. Maybe it's Apple that needs to die and learn. I'm sure marketing is a factor, but in the end, Sammy is ticking all the right boxes for a lot of people.
I do agree with you about one thing though: I wish they'd ditch TW for something closer to AOSP Android.
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I'd normally say it's just your own experience and opinion, but given the options you've presented, I'm going with crazy
I love my S7. It's the best phone I've ever had. Mine is butter-smooth, looks and feels awesome, gets an update every month and has an phenomenal camera. I can't agree with you about the screen either--it's worthy of all the praise that's been heaped on it.
Samsung sales and profits are up right now, and Apple's are down. Maybe it's Apple that needs to die and learn. I'm sure marketing is a factor, but in the end, Sammy is ticking all the right boxes for a lot of people.
I do agree with you about one thing though: I wish they'd ditch TW for something closer to AOSP Android.
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Well its great, when you are satisfied with your Phone, if you say your touchwiz is buttery smooth, i feel you may have not used iPhone for a year or so, getting updates are fine, camera's of both phones are good for my limited use, me being not photo lover, screen, you can't go wrong with either. i can't see any advantage of this glorious screen over 720p of iPhone, as i never use VR.
i am not concern with Sales, by F**k**g users with touchwiz torture, they can't tick every box right, just my opinion, touchwiz torture alone, should give them Nokia Fate, my opinion. Not letting AOSP on this very good hardware is also very sad.
Even its my personal experience, i would want to stay away from Sammy for good, even couple of years ago i promised my self, i would never use non nexus Android, its just Google is too lazy to bring new Android,
Wish i could have S7 google play edition.
If I had to compare the S7 with the iPhone 6s, then the S7 would win for me.
Beautiful QHD display vs 720p and you say that the screen doesn't matters to you? The S7 has a bigger screen even tho they have almost the same size.
The iPhone doesn't has OIS "optical image stabilization", doesn't has microSD card slot, it's not water resistant and the basic 16GB version is more expensive than the S7 (at least here).
I think that the 6s is way overpriced for what it offers.
Also the new iPhone 7 will look exactly the same as 6 and 6s.
Ps my S7 is smooth.
I personally don't know what you're on about. I can't compare it to an iPhone, but I've had a Nexus 5 and a OnePlus One that I felt was a little faster. My S7 is just as smooth in the UI as either of those devices, and I used Nova launcher on all three. I can't make mine lag or stutter scrolling between screens, pulling down notifications, opening the app drawer, switching apps, etc.
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Back from days of Symbian, i have used many smartphones, recently i changed from iPhone 6s to S7, for a change, but touchwiz, or mess of uneven Android apps, lack of silky smoothness, and strange app designs, for example huge header of WhatsApp App, different font size in WhatsApp App's text entry box and bubbles text.
I was amazed reading this story by XDA, http://www.xda-developers.com/with-...delivers-embarrassing-real-world-performance/
wow i don't think like this alone, If i compare it iPhone 6s,
- this phone is not smooth, only Nexus is almost as smooth as iPhone
- even though its a mettle phone, but by looks its same as galaxy s3 bu looks, not by material,
- Its best in stutters, ugliness of software, among all Android Phones, with LG is close 2nd.
- display is good, but being an average user, i find it not different than the iPhone display in real world usage.
- better, battery is the only benefit i am getting from this phone
- with camera i only take pictures of samples and send them over WhatsApp, so both are same.
I feel Samsung must die or learn and make Android closer to stock, they are selling phones only due to marketing and good hardware. Even baby companies like OnePlus can implement Android better than Sammy.
Do you guys agree or think i am crazy!
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You aren't crazy. I also came from 6S. I think it's all a personal preference and you would be better served with an iPhone. Simple.
For me personally, and while I partially agree with certain parts of the points you listed, overall an iPhone is like a kids toy compared to a robust pocket computer. So the trade off of slightly less polished OS on the S7 is well worth it. Just take Nova Launcher with gesture control and Tasker, just those two apps alone make Android about 1000x better because you literally can design your own way of interacting with your phone down to the smallest detail. But if that kind of stuff isn't for you, then I can see your point and like I said, iPhone just may be better. It's all a matter of perspective.
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If I had to compare the S7 with the iPhone 6s, then the S7 would win for me.
Beautiful QHD display vs 720p and you say that the screen doesn't matters to you? The S7 has a bigger screen even tho they have almost the same size.
The iPhone doesn't has OIS "optical image stabilization", doesn't has microSD card slot, it's not water resistant and the basic 16GB version is more expensive than the S7 (at least here).
I think that the 6s is way overpriced for what it offers.
Also the new iPhone 7 will look exactly the same as 6 and 6s.
Ps my S7 is smooth.
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Thanks for reply bro,
- i never said screen don't matter to me, i can't stand cheap or inferior screen, like that of Xperia family, all i said what both screens are good and comparable in real life, specs of Sammy screen is higher, that is 2K, but by using both, i see no advantage of 2k Super Amoled screen over IPS 720p screen, in fact i find iPhone screen better due to more condense UI, you can have more text of WhatsApp in iPhone smaller screen then in larger screen of S7, You have thicker fonts on iPhone in twitter App and too thin fonts on Android App, obviously you can shrink or condense the UI, but according to me its not the same, like i mentioned WhatsApp text entry font size and bubble font size is different, is headache for me, no issue for you guys. These are fine touches which iPhone have and Android needs to avoid, though its App fault, Android App fault.
iPhone 6s don't have iOS, for a user like me its not required, i am keen on point and shot camera for work only, those who need iOS can us, 6s Plus, No SD card, people can get higher capacity, i only use 16 GB as i keep removing stuff always and never filled half the space mostly, Over prices, definitely, Sammy is over priced too, ask Oneplus, thats another thing, its price falls in no time bring massive loss to owner.
New iPhone will look exactly same, it must, it will mostly be smooth, hopefully, iPhone has its other flaws, like lack of sharing and transferring file, physical home buttom, which i dont like in sammy too.
At the end of the day, it all comes down to your needs i feel, for you S7 serves better, for someone, slick and smooth elegant UI of iPhone works better, even bigger size bezels of iPhone worked better for me, as i get accident touched on S7 when i try to use it with one hand, due to smaller bezels.
pixel_junkie said:
You aren't crazy. I also came from 6S. I think it's all a personal preference and you would be better served with an iPhone. Simple.
For me personally, and while I partially agree with certain parts of the points you listed, overall an iPhone is like a kids toy compared to a robust pocket computer. So the trade off of slightly less polished OS on the S7 is well worth it. Just take Nova Launcher with gesture control and Tasker, just those two apps alone make Android about 1000x better because you literally can design your own way of interacting with your phone down to the smallest detail. But if that kind of stuff isn't for you, then I can see your point and like I said, iPhone just may be better. It's all a matter of perspective.
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Thanks for sharing thoughts, I use Nova Prime, as soon as i get any galaxy, but tasker is not for me.
if a user need to root or use apps like tasker or greenify to make there phone work proper, then its not the phone for most you have to admit. To make phone work better, root, change rom, change codes, change this and change that .....
- Some people have business, others have jobs in life, kids and family, they get less time in life, to go forums and do all that, they need a phone, that mostly work and have less limitations, phone you are calling kids phone, all i need to do with that is just to stop the animations, and it becomes smoother, for those who cant alter there phones or who dont have time.
When i use to dislike iPhone, i use to feel you cant use bluetooth, you cant transfer mp3, you cant send a song over whatsapp now or cant receive it, then i found out sharing song over bluetooth is needed less, if needed can use dropbox share, can copy song over wifi or can easily share song vis whatsapp without jailbreak, iPhone found solutions, but Sammy is screwing me and the likes of me from galaxy S3!
usmanxhmed said:
Thanks for sharing thoughts, I use Nova Prime, as soon as i get any galaxy, but tasker is not for me.
if a user need to root or use apps like tasker or greenify to make there phone work proper, then its not the phone for most you have to admit. To make phone work better, root, change rom, change codes, change this and change that .....
- Some people have business, others have jobs in life, kids and family, they get less time in life, to go forums and do all that, they need a phone, that mostly work and have less limitations, phone you are calling kids phone, all i need to do with that is just to stop the animations, and it becomes smoother, for those who cant alter there phones or who dont have time.
When i use to dislike iPhone, i use to feel you cant use bluetooth, you cant transfer mp3, you cant send a song over whatsapp now or cant receive it, then i found out sharing song over bluetooth is needed less, if needed can use dropbox share, can copy song over wifi or can easily share song vis whatsapp without jailbreak, iPhone found solutions, but Sammy is screwing me and the likes of me from galaxy S3!
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I don't think you know or understand what Tasker does - it helps you automate string of commands or "tasks" that you would do anyway but it dose it automatically for you based on certain criteria like your location for example. It has nothing to do with tweaking your phone to run better or give you better battery life (unless you want that).
You buy the hardware with pre installed software.
You are responsable to customize the software to your needs!
You can modify almost everything. Also uglyness etc. goes away by that!
My Phone is really premium and with beautiful software, with all that modications.
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I don't think you know or understand what Tasker does - it helps you automate string of commands or "tasks" that you would do anyway but it dose it automatically for you based on certain criteria like your location for example. It has nothing to do with tweaking your phone to run better or give you better battery life (unless you want that).
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Yes, tasker is not for everyone specially not for those, who were using iphones lately feel, dont have to use with iphone, sadly this super customize able phone has lost ability to change fonts without root, i want to use roboto fonts, or try iPhone fonts.
Only if iPhone was not over priced, iPhone could get more market or profit share then what it has currently, as many people cant use it due to price as well, in many countries like mine, we have to pay full price to buy phone, and i mostly sell current phone, add money and buy new.
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You buy the hardware with pre installed software.
You are responsable to customize the software to your needs!
You can modify almost everything. Also uglyness etc. goes away by that!
My Phone is really premium and with beautiful software, with all that modications.
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I believe you bro, you basically mean if a user can modify his phone, then he can lay his hand on touchwiz, or he never used iPhone for long, or he dont care about smoothness, apps quality etc.
You sound confused, first you complain about whatsapp's font size, admitting it's the apps fault and then you blame Samsung saying that it should "die and learn".
Next you say that you refuse to use tasker or any other app to make the phone work "properly" and yet you use Dropbox for a simple file share, since Apple doesn't allow you to send files using Bluetooth.
And you find the iPhone's 720p screen better than Samsung's 2K? Its like me saying that my old Nokia 3210 is the best phone ever cause all I do with it is make phone calls and that way the battery lasts for weeks.
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You sound confused, first you complain about whatsapp's font size, admitting it's the apps fault and then you blame Samsung saying that it should "die and learn".
Next you say that you refuse to use tasker or any other app to make the phone work "properly" and yet you use Dropbox for a simple file share, since Apple doesn't allow you to send files using Bluetooth.
And you find the iPhone's 720p screen better than Samsung's 2K? Its like me saying that my old Nokia 3210 is the best phone ever cause all I do with it is make phone calls and that way the battery lasts for weeks.
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Well thanks for reply, but bro you dont read correct, i never said 720p is better than 2k screen, i said both do the job good, both are very good, if you hold both close to each other, both are very good, minor difference can be pitch black screen, according to my average eye.
I am not here to offend those who like S7 a lot, i was just sharing my experience, and i said for others it can be opposite, file sharing is an option, one can live without it, or can use dropbox or email or whatsapp to share a file, which everyone use no matter if he use, android or windows phone or iOS, tasker is a utility to make S7 work proper, dropbox is not a utility to make iOS work smoother, or make UI less of a mess.
Its not like saying anything about 3310, iPhone is a capable phone, dual core 1.4 cpu, 2gb ram, f**ks note 7 in every speed test you find on Youtube, thats another story and i am not interested in it.
i just have to stay with this phone for a while, i wish i can like it more, UI issues which i find little disappointing i can adjust with, i can somehow enjoy benefits that comes with it, like better battery, ability to use to Whatsapp, and few others, at cost of UI and smoothness. Since i dont intend to use phone again for 6 months at least.
Idea of this post is not to offend lovers of S7, i dont know why some folks cant take other peoples opinion about there love child, in fact opinion of XDA developers is same as mine, exactly same, if you can read the link i posted, only reason for the post was thoughts sharing and finding ways to improve the situations, which seems like impossible, even for XDA, even for them its the path of lenthy modifications and somehow magically fix the sh*t that sammy created in form of touchwiz.
XDA says reviewers always praise samsung phones, yet performance is always under par, even less then oneplus, and honour 8, which is bloated and a mid range phone.
To conclude this talk, and to end harsh feelings/heartaches, i would this is a very good hardware, only crippled by software in my case, as i am stock android or iPhone guy, i still remember i had nexus 5, i was so much satisfied, and mediocre screen of nexus 5 never bothered me much due to buttery smooth, elegant, non china UI.
You have to live with prons and cons of all phone, like we have to live with iPhone's as well.
I and many others like me should try to enjoy benefit of this phone and may be somehow we can like it, or when time comes switch it.
I cant root it to keep warranty, or replace roms.
007zzz said:
About content in display,you can change DPI to achieve more texts on the screen.
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I know that, but twitter App font is very thin, despite being at 560 now, but my main issue about inconsistent and less than elegant UI in comparison to nexus remains, is there any way i can change system fonts without root, i want ROboto all over the place.
usmanxhmed said:
Well, you are the one who is fanboy and confused and can't hear a word against your Love
I said iPhone screen is better, not in term of screen quality, but in term of UI, which is part of screen over all experience
- fanboys like you deserve to stay on china type touchwiz for life, keep buying Sammy and they will keep screwing you with China UI
- iPhone screen better because text is smaller but far thicker, i can see more text in a UI
- Twitter and WhatsApp shows more and clearer text in one screen even being smaller, which makes it easy to carry around, yet more contend
- Uniform applications, elegant and consistent layout.
So screen is a combination of over all UI, unlike you common man is not a screen pixels doctor to calculate 2k pixels and keep saying wow, its 2k not 720p, for a common man, both are almost same as far as screen quality goes.
You should not stay in this thread any ways, its not for small hearted fanboys, getting hurt about other negative opinion about there beloved phone.
In my opinion and official opinion of XDA, Sammy does not know how to make a software or even a skin, they take slick Stock Android and pretty much f**k it up from galaxy S1, still selling phones.
But if people like you are satisfied with it, then its fine, they must be doing it right now, other people can use nexus and iphones or even at times HTC if they can reduce screen to body ratio.
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I know that, but twitter App font is very thin, despite being at 560 now, but my main issue about inconsistent and less than elegant UI in comparison to nexus remains, is there any way i can change system fonts without root, i want ROboto all over the place.
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Yes there is a way to change the font without root. Google store search ifont. The first result is the APP you need. This APP will guide you change font without root.
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Do you guys agree or think i am crazy!
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You have a point. As an ex-ios uset, and loads of android owner (including nexus 5, s6, s7 exynos) i find iOS better in terms of:
- general smoothness
- games load time
- way way better memory managent than android (with 2gigs of RAM it outperforms android with 4-6gig)
- better battery life per capacity (iphone 6s 1750 mah vs galaxy s6 3000 mah)
- in general ios operates at cooler temperature
I really wish android to step up in all above. I am keep using android because i don't like to be limited in apple ecosystem (anyway, ios evolved in good direction, making the OS more versatile and customizable)
Right now I am usint Good Lock which changes many elements of SystemUI. As a launcher i am using the official Google one, and it does occasionally stutter when scrolling between screens. Also I am using the condensed screen mode.