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Galaxy S4: top android or expensive stone?

Hello
Im a new owner of a Samsung galaxy S4 I9505. Im experiencing big problems in a game called Modern Combat 4, which has great graphics. Its often unplayable during multiplayer (and sometimes singleplayer) due to excessive fps drop. Naturally game is original, bought on play store, device not rooted and just booted... Why? Oo
I remember with my iphone 4s i could play Modern Combat 3 withouth any fps drop T_T
Thanks

This can perhaps be a software optimization issue. I have an ipad 3 which can play MC3 perfectly fine but MC4 is messed up with frame rate drops all the time. But then, any issues should have been fixed by now as the game has been out for like 9 months or so:what:
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1080p unfortunately kills the performances in game.
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1080p unfortunately kills the performances in game.
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I see
Anything I can do to give it good performance? Especially during online gunfights its really unplayable

Are you familiar with overclocking, custom kernels, and custom roms if yes then thats what I would do, if no i wouldn't even step into that field with such powerful device.
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strange. It plays fine here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfzb0mpugrw and here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKXdDavWMiU.

ifoxd007 said:
Are you familiar with overclocking, custom kernels, and custom roms if yes then thats what I would do, if no i wouldn't even step into that field with such powerful device.
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Definitely not familiar
nik511 said:
strange. It plays fine here [/url].
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thats the i9500 (octacore), i got the i9505 (quad core)
and btw single player lags just a bit, except in some really heavy parts like 1st mission, where you must attack a beach with so many enemies, water, boats, etc
real problem is multiplayer, which always lags a lot during gunfights T_T

Wickam said:
Definitely not familiar
thats the i9500 (octacore), i got the i9505 (quad core)
and btw single player lags just a bit, except in some really heavy parts like 1st mission, where you must attack a beach with so many enemies, water, boats, etc
real problem is multiplayer, which always lags a lot during gunfights T_T
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The game is pretty graphic intensive. I ran it on my i9505 international version rooted running AOSP with stock kernel.
Frame rates is definitely lower than what I use before (Xperia S).
I have to use SetCPU to dial up the speed and it ran much better but heats up a lot.
My gut feeling tells me that it has something to do with the stock kernel.
I'll look into it later and let you know.

slick530 said:
The game is pretty graphic intensive. I ran it on my i9505 international version rooted running AOSP with stock kernel.
Frame rates is definitely lower than what I use before (Xperia S).
I have to use SetCPU to dial up the speed and it ran much better but heats up a lot.
My gut feeling tells me that it has something to do with the stock kernel.
I'll look into it later and let you know.
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Oww thanks!!!
Especially you should try multiplayer: gunfights are pretty much unplayable imho... But fortunately I was very good with MC3 so I can kill... Sometimes
About singleplayer, it doesnt lag as much, it doesnt even lag often but, for example, in the beginning of first mission (during beach assault) i get some lag, not as much as multiplayer though

Wickam said:
thats the i9500 (octacore), i got the i9505 (quad core)
and btw single player lags just a bit, except in some really heavy parts like 1st mission, where you must attack a beach with so many enemies, water, boats, etc
real problem is multiplayer, which always lags a lot during gunfights T_T
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i9500 performs better in games than i9505? well that's new ... until now i was told otherwise ... marginal difference ... but otherwise nontheless

Wickam said:
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Anything I can do to give it good performance? Especially during online gunfights its really unplayable
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You can change the graphical setting of the game, you'll lose a lot of details but the game will be much smoother, there is an app to change the gameloft games graphical settings but I don't remember the name.
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Wickam said:
Definitely not familiar
thats the i9500 (octacore), i got the i9505 (quad core)
and btw single player lags just a bit, except in some really heavy parts like 1st mission, where you must attack a beach with so many enemies, water, boats, etc
real problem is multiplayer, which always lags a lot during gunfights T_T
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There isn't any noticable difference for GPU performance between these two models http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_i9500_vs_i9505-review-930p2.php
S4 is a new phone and probably their graphics engine is not optimized for this phone I guess.

A phone is as good as its user who knows how to operate it

gee2012 said:
A phone is as good as its user who knows how to operate it
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funny
so am i supposed to buy 600$ or more of top android device just to change rom, kernel and overclock it to run a game that iphone 5, which has half of the hardware, runs smooth? eheheh,

Wickam said:
funny as a cactus in the ass
so am i supposed to buy 600$ or more of top android device and just to change rom, kernel and overclock it to run a game that iphone 5, which has half of the hardware, runs smooth? eheheh, i love androfanboys <3
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I personaly xperience no lags or framedrops on NFS, Asphalt 7 and Riptide GP Pro. Maybe too many apps and widgets working in the background, hardware has its limitations

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I personaly xperience no lags or framedrops on NFS, Asphalt 7 and Riptide GP Pro. Maybe too many apps and widgets working in the background, hardware has its limitations
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i could play asphalt 7 and nfs without any lag also on iphone 4s wich is neither paragonable to i9505
only modern combat 4 seems to be able to stress my device and give so bad performance, especially during multiplayer matches

Its Modern Combat 4 the problem not your phone... there is an actual problem in the game. it doesn't even play in 1080p anymore after the update. i've overclocked my phone like crazy and removed any thermal throttling. it still lags a lot in multiplayer. The same thing happened when i had my HTC One... I think it has to do with poor optimization for the snapdragon 600 because it doesn't seem to work well with any phone with that processor

crzykiller said:
Its Modern Combat 4 the problem not your phone... there is an actual problem in the game. it doesn't even play in 1080p anymore after the update. i've overclocked my phone like crazy and removed any thermal throttling. it still lags a lot in multiplayer. The same thing happened when i had my HTC One... I think it has to do with poor optimization for the snapdragon 600 because it doesn't seem to work well with any phone with that processor
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****ty ****floft, i wonder why for god sake i still keep buying their sheets ehm games

Wickam said:
****ty ****floft, i wonder why for god sake i still keep buying their sheets ehm games
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Yeah well.. GTA also still lags like hell
Me Gusta!

Anyone else getting major lag in games? (Hearthstone)

I just tried playing Hearthstone with my S7 Edge and the lag is horrible. The game is almost unplayable. Not to mention, the game runs in some ultra high saturation settings. This game ran faster on my S5 and a lot faster on my 6S+.
Is anyone experiencing lag in any other games?

jrwingate6 said:
I just tried playing Hearthstone with my S7 Edge and the lag is horrible. The game is almost unplayable. Not to mention, the game runs in some ultra high saturation settings. This game ran faster on my S5 and a lot faster on my 6S+.
Is anyone experiencing lag in any other games?
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Make sure you dont have power save activated in game launcher

Gurule92 said:
Make sure you dont have power save activated in game launcher
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Thanks for the advise but I don't even have Game Launcher activated.

i'm having the same issue with pinball arcade, like if there' some type of game lag. it's unfortunate because its the only game app i play lol. now it's useless unless i enjoy lag pinball. very weird, hopefully samsung can fix this or the app creators.

Runs very Smooth with my s7 edge. But i have the exynos chip, maybe you have the snapdragon...
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Runs really choppy SS well. I have an iPhone 6s plus and it's not even close. I figured new Samsung could hang

Runs smooth on my s7 exynos version. Does the lag appear immediately or after a while as when I do play on my phone it's usually for no more than 30 min at a time.
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Galaxy S7 Edge, Exynos Polish retail presales. I got lags on everything. Touchwiz, chrome, facebook, games, videos (however only in software-decoded). If a video player is using hardware acceleration, then it's fine. html5 embedded videos run (with individual pixels flashing with different colors), but fail when I try to change the viewing mode to horizontal, try to run fullscreen or skip few seconds of the video. I see same flashing pixels when browsing instagram pictures. The most irritating is VR mode. Flashing pixels all the time, a 10-20 second freeze every other minute in any app, however, when running 360 videos, most of them run smoothly without a lag. I ran Antutu benchmarks, but the score was ~101K. Is that the general lag some people are experiencing and hope Samsung will release patches, or should I get my phone serviced? Is there a way to run maintenance tests to check what's wrong with it?

Just to be clear, I have the SS version and the phone did not lag anywhere else. It was only in games. I fixed it though.
Those who are getting unplayable lag while in games you can download "Package Remover Pro" and remove "Game Services" and "Gamepad Services".
Now my games finally don't lag and they look much better.

jrwingate6 said:
Just to be clear, I have the SS version and the phone did not lag anywhere else. It was only in games. I fixed it though.
Those who are getting unplayable lag while in games you can download "Package Remover Pro" and remove "Game Services" and "Gamepad Services".
Now my games finally don't lag and they look much better.
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Let me give that a try. I will post results

I have a Snapdragon 820 S7E, and Hearthstone worked perfectly for me for an hour yesterday. No issues so far.

I don't have any lag issues but disabling the 2 gaming packages fixed the over saturation, thanks! (On a Exynos model btw)

I'm getting lag even in Monument Valley on my S7 Edge Exynos version and no lag at all on my Huawei Mate 8.. I'll try disabling those two game packages.
Hmm this seems to trigger Knox? If so I don't want to do it.

Still having gaming lag issues even with package Disabler. Need advice otherwise I'm going back to my 6S plus

Yea, I am also still getting lag in Hearthstone. I can't believe Samsung would release such a half baked phone. The most powerful mobile GPU around and they manage to screw it up.

I don't get lag on my SD 820 Edge when playing Hearthstone... I do however get force closes. I have to then rush to get back logged in before I lose my "turn". Anyway, it's been pretty disappointing.

I get lag angry birds 2 and tekken nothing os playable. That relates to something sammy changed in android 6. As note 5 have same issue on android 6 but not on 5.1.1.

I am playing Hearthstone on my Exynos S7 Edge for a few weeks now.The game runs pretty smooth while dropping frames time to time but when I activate Power Saving mode it doesn't feel like it is 30 fps.
I play on computer all the time at 30 fps and it is great.
When I use the Game Tuner just to lower the resolution and texture quality,FPS also drops for some reason.

Hmmm. mine does drop frames every now and then but hearthstone doesn't have major lags. I'm on exynos.
I only play for 1 or two battles in a row. maybe that's the reason? I haven't played a lot. only a little

Poor 3d performance pisses me off!

Hi, previously had the Note 5 and after upgrading to 6.0.1, i noticed games lags very very hard, especially heavy 3d games like angry birds, they drop FPS and become too laggy, never happened on 5.1.1.
Now same thing with S7 Edge, phone works perfect, camera is awesome but gaming is lacking, i see how it can perform well but those 6.0.1 3d gaming bug kills it, now it pisses me off so much i wanna sell the phone as idk if samsung even aware of this.
Those who question me i can upload a video to youtube to show you that, just a rant thread.

Derpling said:
Hi, previously had the Note 5 and after upgrading to 6.0.1, i noticed games lags very very hard, especially heavy 3d games like angry birds, they drop FPS and become too laggy, never happened on 5.1.1.
Now same thing with S7 Edge, phone works perfect, camera is awesome but gaming is lacking, i see how it can perform well but those 6.0.1 3d gaming bug kills it, now it pisses me off so much i wanna sell the phone as idk if samsung even aware of this.
Those who question me i can upload a video to youtube to show you that, just a rant thread.
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This annoys me as well but I'm pretty sure it's just software as the hardware is more than capable. All the other features are more worth it than gaming performance since I rarely game now. So this is still one beast of a phone. It'll get better with dev support if they ever figure out an exploit for the 820 variants or some miracle happens and our bootloader gets unlocked.

yes it is software that's why it drives me crazy, at least if sammy somehow admitted that and we know fix on the way that would be nice, one of the reason i bought it is the awesome gaming and Vulkan support, which ppsspp emulator starts to support as well, i just hope they will fix it asap, as well as the stock app camera which have issues of it's own.

I had this issue as well, the solution is download game tuner from Google play store, and manually adjust the settings for your desired games to max. The performance is scaled down automatically. It's a "feature". This will fix your problems.

Wow! it does help though not by 100%, but now it took 6 levels to start lag out instead of 1, though it uses gameservice which means it lower the volume automatically and dim the screen or oversaturate colours at times, but it seems there is a way, thank you!

Well still same awful lag i think ill return my gs7 and buy something else

what SOC are you guys having? im on exynos and I have no problems with lag :\

me too.. exynos here with no problems

Exynos samw thing happens on note 5 6.0.1

Same here on S7 edge Exynos version

Derpling said:
Exynos samw thing happens on note 5 6.0.1
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what games are you reffering to? since mine is ok with everything I trow at it but yours isen`t?!

Try angry birds 2 for 10 levels and youll see lag happens after a bit. If u minimize and then maximize it, it works bettet for a sec then lags again.

I will install angry birds to see if it is a bug with that game, I played way more demanding games than angrybird without a hickup so it can`t be the GPU.

What games u played that worked perfect let me know i try

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What games u played that worked perfect let me know i try
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Derpling said:
What games u played that worked perfect let me know i try
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angrybirds isen`t a demanding game..think it just needs an update..will try it later though.

It actually more demanding then it looks, as it lags on lot of devices, just watch when there is a lot of action how the birds throwing animation is not smooth.

yeah, i'm also on the exynos version, and there is zero lag in any of my games, or anything else i do. the exynos also has better battery life than the snapdragon.

stevae said:
yeah, i'm also on the exynos version, and there is zero lag in any of my games, or anything else i do. the exynos also has better battery life than the snapdragon.
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I got my S7 Edge earlier, the exynos version. I am also experiencing some lags, the game i tried is vector. Also on Facebook basketball in messenger also lagging, in my note 4 no lag. what the hell

Derpling said:
It actually more demanding then it looks, as it lags on lot of devices, just watch when there is a lot of action how the birds throwing animation is not smooth.
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Tried it for 10 levels as you said..no lag what so ever, even filmed it using gamelauncher. Must be some app or some setting that is causing this lag of yours.
https://youtu.be/SJDl_HJkrO0
Played for all 10 levels straight. With 15%battery left and also recorded at the same time.

it super laggy in the video, it plays really bad. to sum it up, the birds animation and game should not fall from 60fps, that what was on mine Note 5 with 5.1.1 but not with 6.0.1.
You affected as well, u might use AZRecorder as it does not have performance penalty.

Lags in games?

I've read people that say that G6 lags in games big time. Is it so? Is it not buy if I would want to have some fun in-between moments?

Billy Madison said:
I've read people that say that G6 lags in games big time. Is it so? Is it not buy if I would want to have some fun in-between moments?
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Did those said people say which games? Because I've been using my LG G6 for games too and haven't seen any lag what so ever. And I've played alot of graphic intensive games too as well as casual stuff
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Mchi5 said:
people say which games?
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Yes
namely zombie tsunami, goo saga, red ball evolved & lapsum

Billy Madison said:
Yes
namely zombie tsunami, goo saga, red ball evolved & lapsum
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Sorry never played those. But sports games like NBA 2k17, Fifa and Real Racing 3, which are all very graphic intensive plays with no lag
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Nope. No lag here either and i play some pretty intensive games.
Considering the games you listed are all just simple 2D games it should run them easy and battery is gonna last a long time.

No lag on: DB Dokkan Battle, Fire Emblem: Heroes, Summoner Wars, Pokémon Go and Tap Titans 2

WstrKuNoužč said:
Considering the games you listed are all just simple 2D games it should run them easy and battery is gonna last a long time.
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What if those games just can't see 18:9 and are hardcoded to run in 1280x720? And when stretched they stutter somehow?
another example is RR3 which throttles to 18fps often which is way too low for such powerful 821

Billy Madison said:
What if those games just can't see 18:9 and are hardcoded to run in 1280x720? And when stretched they stutter somehow?
another example is RR3 which throttles to 18fps often which is way too low for such powerful 821
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Well, you basically choose in which aspect ratio you wanna play games that don't support 18:9.
You can choose the usual default format 16:9 (with black left and right borders), optimized format 16.7:9 (with small left and right black borders) or 18:9 (fullscreen). It basically crops the games window to your liking. Really easy to set up and works like a charm.
Most games don't support 18:9 yet, only some new ones do, but i play pretty much all of them in 18:9 np. Performance is the same in either of those ratios, i'm pretty sure, as it only crops the image.
If a game is hard-coded to lower resolution then i'm pretty sure it plays at that resolution and doesn't up-sample. I've played a cpl of games hard-coded to 1080p and they actually still looked great despite running on a 1440p screen. You can still choose aspect ratio tho.

I've had no issues. So far I've played Pokeymanz Go, Magikrap Jump, Devil Twins, Sailor Drops, TriggerKnight, Dungeon Vilage, Game Dev Story, Ninja Village, Plague Inc, Infectonator, Tales of Link with no issues. The only time I've managed to make this thing stutter is when streaming music over BT and the phone switches back and forth between wifi and mobile data a couple times (this happens on my way home in the afternoon. It picks up my 802.11ac, then I whip around a corner and it drops it, whip back and it picks it back up).

I've played King's Raid on lg g6 and its lag pretty bad, i did change resolution , battery saver and graphic quality but still lag big time.
Can any of u guys give it a try?
But other similar games run very smooth which is strange.
Thx

teruhiko666 said:
I've played King's Raid on lg g6 and its lag pretty bad, i did change resolution , battery saver and graphic quality but still lag big time.
Can any of u guys give it a try?
But other similar games run very smooth which is strange.
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That's probably not weird considering it won't even install for me through Google Play. It's says it's not compatible with my phone.
Doesn't look like a demanding game so it's probably just not optimized.

They claim that in Mushroom Wars Space and Mushroom Wars 2 G6 is especially lagging. Could anyone prove this claim?

What about framed/2? they say G6 is snail laggish in this

teruhiko666 said:
I've played King's Raid on lg g6 and its lag pretty bad, i did change resolution , battery saver and graphic quality but still lag big time.
Can any of u guys give it a try?
But other similar games run very smooth which is strange.
Thx
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I play this game on my LG G6 and I can confirm that it does lag like CRAZY! Especially BD Raid DAMN!!! Feels like its gonna blow. But everything else is super smooth. Weird thing is my Note7 Exynos 8890 runs Kings Raid on max settings super smooth.

I have zero lags. But I have my G6 pretty much debloated and I always disable the, "Game Battery Saver" option. I think that option makes a difference.
But I mostly only play racing games and COD games.
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It seems it has problem with 2D games. My wife's G6 lags like crazy in Angry birds pop. I tried to force GPU rendering in developer settings, but didn't help. I even lowered game resolution in battery settings

No lag at all playing pes2018

Yes, it does lag, but only when charging and playing at full resolution. It also only charges at about 1000 miliamps when screen is on. Not a huge deal for me, but I do hope oreo update will fix this.

Mine has this weird thing where a game will be super smooth for about 5 seconds but goes choppy, then I have to pause and resume for it to go back to smooth for another 5s.
This mainly happens for me in RR3, Plague Inc, Beast Quest and a few others.
Must be a software issue as it's obviously capable enough hardware. Hope Oreo fixes this!
Can't deal with low frame rates!!
Anyone else had this issue?

For me every game is working quite well except Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes. Which I really like so it's quite annoying.

New Owner, Gaming Performance?

I have been eyeing this phone since launch and finally decided to give it a try with a $330 Amazon deal. I'm a phone collector so this is my 4th phone. I love the size and pretty much no issues except gaming. I'm a Hill Climb 2 addict and this phone drops frames and stutters very bad. I am on the 8.1 Beta and have tried tweaking in developer options but not much change. Is this just a Beta software issue? My iPhone 7, Pixel XL, V20, and heck even my Mi Max with a SD652 is way more fluid. I know this phone has had software issues since launch but I'm hoping there is hope..if not I'd rather return it even though I love the form factor. Thanks for any advice!

Honestly I don't get this phone. Hardware spec-wise it should be screaming but it just doesn't preform. Reminds me of the cheap Chinese phones.

rzracer2 said:
I have been eyeing this phone since launch and finally decided to give it a try with a $330 Amazon deal. I'm a phone collector so this is my 4th phone. I love the size and pretty much no issues except gaming. I'm a Hill Climb 2 addict and this phone drops frames and stutters very bad. I am on the 8.1 Beta and have tried tweaking in developer options but not much change. Is this just a Beta software issue? My iPhone 7, Pixel XL, V20, and heck even my Mi Max with a SD652 is way more fluid. I know this phone has had software issues since launch but I'm hoping there is hope..if not I'd rather return it even though I love the form factor. Thanks for any advice!
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Try one of the custom kernels.
I just download hill climb racing 2 and it ran flawlessly for me. I only did 3 a, but I didn't notice anything wrong. I'm using ElementalX 2.0 kernel and everything is solid.

For me gamming is pretty much rock solid , i play mc versus alot with issues, although anything that has to do with vulkan will be chooppy, the driver is not optimized and still work in progress, if you want perfect vulkan performance stay on naugat. I am also on elementalx custom kernel with max overclocks.

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For me gamming is pretty much rock solid , i play mc versus alot with issues, although anything that has to do with vulkan will be chooppy, the driver is not optimized and still work in progress, if you want perfect vulkan performance stay on naugat. I am also on elementalx custom kernel with max overclocks.
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I don't play many games.
I do play Real Racing 3.
No issues. All rendering including rear view mirror is rock solid.

Compared to my Nexus 6 which would struggle to even run Pokemon Go smooth all the time, this phone absolutely flies through anything that involves 3D.

All I know is that anything VR related, it runs well.

tech_head said:
I don't play many games.
I do play Real Racing 3.
No issues. All rendering including rear view mirror is rock solid.
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What does vulkan rendering have to do with real racing 3?

siulmagic said:
What does vulkan rendering have to do with real racing 3?
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Huh? Real Racing renders various things depending on the speed of the hardware.
On lesser hardware the rearview mirrors don't get rendering.
The reflections in cars don't get rendered.
What I was saying is that all the above renders fine in RR3 on this device.