How to avoid OTA update so Bixby Button could be remapped? - Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers

How can I avoid this OTA update that kills the Bixby button remapping? Is there a way to freeze them with Package Disabler Pro?
Thanks for any thoughts!

EZ Disabler works I believe for nougat. Or, for the time being just don't take any update until an issue has been resolved.

So there is no way. They changed the way the Bixby button is run through the system. The only way to get rid of it is root. You could always not update but that would mean missing important updates. You could always just use Bixby and enjoy using it. I bought the phone because of Bixby and Viv.

mweinbach said:
You could always not update but that would mean missing important updates.
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^^^^^
This.
With a new SoC and the rush to get the S8 out I'm betting on a slew of updates; especially the first few months. It's one of the reasons I went with an international vs. carrier phone this year. Speaking of carriers, if you're in the U.S. you won't have to worry about updates. There won't be any.

mweinbach said:
So there is no way. They changed the way the Bixby button is run through the system. The only way to get rid of it is root. You could always not update but that would mean missing important updates. You could always just use Bixby and enjoy using it. I bought the phone because of Bixby and Viv.
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bixby is the new improved feed from samsung.......like s7 Briefing
yes maybe you cannot remap the button but you can disable bixby intergate with apps and update the feed in the backgorund
I think that samsung will put this option in the settings to remap the button because of customer complaints the future will tell us.....
i don't want bixby they should let us choose this option........
hope that will be ok

Keep the original odin file.

Some people don't realize that the remapped button won't work with the screen off, so its only a shortcut button when the screen is on, not that great imo.

We pay 900 for a phone and samsung says it interferes with system function so not allowed. We should be able to sign an electronic disclaimer that we accept resp. If something breaks or whatever and have access to remap keys and unlocked bootloader(even it it makes device a hackers wet dream lol) if we pay for it we should have full control and do what we want. We may as well buy an Apple no nevermind, I wouldnt wipe my ass with an iphone!

You could, you know, tell Samsung to basically go screw themselves and not buy the damned phones, of course.

I thought it would be as easy as opening package disabler pro and freezing the updates. Is that available with EZ package disabler?

stu5797 said:
I thought it would be as easy as opening package disabler pro and freezing the updates. Is that available with EZ package disabler?
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Should be, I think package Disabler stopped working with the nougat release but I may be wrong. If you have the pro version I would say give that a shot on a system app you know won't mess up your phone and see if it works. If it doesn't try EZ and hopefully you'll be good to go.

Outbreak... Thank you. I appreciate you staying on topic and helping. I own both those pro apps so I'll just have to try EZ when the new phone actually comes.

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How on earth could there be no way to disable or remove My magizine?

So nobody has found a way to disable or Remove My Magazine? I have disabled the start button option but I really want to disable completely mostly because I'm irritated that Samsung is forcing the APP on us.
jellyhead said:
So nobody has found a way to disable or Remove My Magazine? I have disabled the start button option but I really want to disable completely mostly because I'm irritated that Samsung is forcing the APP on us.
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If you're rooted you can remove/freeze it with the donate version of Titanium.
jellyhead said:
So nobody has found a way to disable or Remove My Magazine? I have disabled the start button option but I really want to disable completely mostly because I'm irritated that Samsung is forcing the APP on us.
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Root then titanium.
Be forewarned! If you disable the magazine crap, it breaks other apps functionality which make them force close on loading! Might be critical in order for the Note 3 to function properly!
jellyhead said:
So nobody has found a way to disable or Remove My Magazine? I have disabled the start button option but I really want to disable completely mostly because I'm irritated that Samsung is forcing the APP on us.
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skyhawk21 said:
Be forewarned! If you disable the magazine crap, it breaks other apps functionality which make them force close on loading! Might be critical in order for the Note 3 to function properly!
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The only thing it breaks is the ability to open the stock email app from the notification area.
shaggy_kobain said:
If you're rooted you can remove/freeze it with the donate version of Titanium.
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It's the wifes phone so I don't want to root it. If it was mine it would have rooted from day 1.

Block Nougat Update

Without rooting, is there a way to temporarily block either the Nougat download, or once the download completes, block/hide the update message? I updated to Nougat and ran into issues with some important apps and the bluetooth quality to my vehicle (bandwidth was reduced) and had to reload 6.0.1. I would like to give it a few months before upgrading.
Thanks.
Thanks, unfortunately they removed the ability to disable com.wssyncmldm which disables OTA.
For safety reasons, we did remove and enable some critical packages which not safe to disable. Sorry for that!
– com.samsung.android.firmware.tsp
– com.samsung.firmware.sensorhub
– com.samsung.android.rlc
– com.wssyncmldm
– com.sec.android.fotaclient
– com.ws.dm
– com.samsung.sdm
– com.sec.android.soagent
Any way to keep it from updating then?
Diginut said:
Thanks, unfortunately they removed the ability to disable com.wssyncmldm which disables OTA.
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You can probably still do this at a command line level rather than a pretty GUI in an app.
adb shell
pm disable com.wssyncmldm
That should disable the app from launching. Please read the help file on pm if you need more info on disabling/enabling apps this way.
Diginut said:
Thanks, unfortunately they removed the ability to disable com.wssyncmldm which disables OTA.
For safety reasons, we did remove and enable some critical packages which not safe to disable. Sorry for that!
– com.samsung.android.firmware.tsp
– com.samsung.firmware.sensorhub
– com.samsung.android.rlc
– com.wssyncmldm
– com.sec.android.fotaclient
– com.ws.dm
– com.samsung.sdm
– com.sec.android.soagent
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You could try to use an older version from APKMirror
I couldn't get the new version, or the old one, or Package Disabler Pro to work. However, I was able to get a different app to work. I used BK Disabler and did a search for "SDM". You then disable both of those packages and you're all set.
n240sxle91 said:
I couldn't get the new version, or the old one, or Package Disabler Pro to work. However, I was able to get a different app to work. I used BK Disabler and did a search for "SDM". You then disable both of those packages and you're all set.
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Which SDM packages did you disable? (I don't have the app on my phone at the moment). The author of BK Disabler indicated that "com.samsung.sdm" cannot be disabled anymore "due to safety reasons" ... Thanks.
That's only for the Note 7. It'll still work on the S7 Edge. You have a short time to return the app if it doesn't work out for you, so there isn't a lot of risk from a monetary perspective.
Right off hand I don't remember the names of the packages, but when you search for SDM in the app only two show up. Disable both.
Hope this helps!
n240sxle91 said:
That's only for the Note 7. It'll still work on the S7 Edge. You have a short time to return the app if it doesn't work out for you, so there isn't a lot of risk from a monetary perspective.
Right off hand I don't remember the names of the packages, but when you search for SDM in the app only two show up. Disable both.
Hope this helps!
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Thank you so much, it worked! Hoping to wait until Verizon updates to the latest Nougat release as there were a lot of bluetooth issues fixed in it...
Awesome! Glad to have helped!
My wife also has a S7, and she took the update. So, I'm going to keep an eye on her phone, and if/when it looks good to me I'll update mine. Otherwise I'm happy where it is, and I just might leave it alone until my next phone. We'll see.
n240sxle91 said:
That's only for the Note 7. It'll still work on the S7 Edge. You have a short time to return the app if it doesn't work out for you, so there isn't a lot of risk from a monetary perspective.
Right off hand I don't remember the names of the packages, but when you search for SDM in the app only two show up. Disable both.
Hope this helps!
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Is using BK Disabler still working for you? Have you tried going under the System tab and simply blocking the "System Update" items listed there? Would that work as well or does that mess up the phone?
BK Disabler is still working for me. I'm not positive, but I believe the only safe way to block the update is what was already posted earlier. Hope this helps.
What if I want to get rid of OREO update notification? please help

Package Disabler Pro - what is safe to disable, and why?

Hello all,
I got Package Disabler Pro yesterday and am looking into slimming the S.EX to get few additional percentages of battery life.
I saw a post about disabling Bixby few days earlier but can't find it anymore so I decided to create a post for experiment with Package Disabler and post their experience.
I will maintain the OP in this thread to list all safe to disable and side effects, if any.
Your feedback is greatly appreciated.
This is from the old Note 7 thread, I'm sure we'll have one here soon. I've disabled Bixby and all the T-Mobil bloat and a few others so far with no problems.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...ackage-disabler-pro-apps-getting-rid-t3443355
This is what I blocked so far. No issues I have ran into.
I am a verizon S8+.
It would be awesome if someone could maybe explain what each thing does if they know...
I want to know if it allows to disable Bixby button!
vzaliva said:
I want to know if it allows to disable Bixby button!
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Yes, there are entries for Bixby.
I just installed it and disabled bixby button. What a relief! Great package!
Only thing I disabled was the Setup Wizard. It kept telling me my AT&T SIM card was not from Verizon Wireless, haha. Duh, I know it's not. (I had VzW when I preordered via Samsung.com then just ported over this week).
did anyone else get a popup about Knox and some weird samsung terms and conditions when installing and running package disabler? i freaked out and uninstalled and havent retried since.
dansan382 said:
did anyone else get a popup about Knox and some weird samsung terms and conditions when installing and running package disabler? i freaked out and uninstalled and havent retried since.
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Didn't get any popups at all. Package Disabler Pro specifically says that it doesn't trip Knox. Maybe your paranoid with your expensive new toy.
disabling the various bixby packages still doesn't let me remap after the april update...
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Didn't get any popups at all. Package Disabler Pro specifically says that it doesn't trip Knox. Maybe your paranoid with your expensive new toy.
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yea maybe. just some weird screens came up. I will definitely try it again
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did anyone else get a popup about Knox and some weird samsung terms and conditions when installing and running package disabler? i freaked out and uninstalled and havent retried since.
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Yep, I did too, but I'm using BK Disabler. I just OK'ed through them and disabled Knox and Bixby. :victory:
Lucky Armpit said:
Yep, I did too, but I'm using BK Disabler. I just OK'ed through them and disabled Knox and Bixby. :victory:
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okay so i wasnt crazy. just clicking through did nothing, good to know
Just grabbed package disabler pro. I just came from a rooted S5 and have always rooted my phones but might not bother this time (plus it isnt available yet anyway). disabled a few things that could obviously go but it was a nightmare trying to find any proper explanations of what different things actually did and what their dependencies are, even trying to google them, I generally just ended up with a list that someone else had produced of things they had disabled, but that doesnt help me decide if *I* should disable it because theres no explanations for what they actually do most of the time (and I could do without spending 10 mins trying to google several hundred packages that MIGHT be good to disable but I can't find an explanation for)!
Surprised there arent sites dedicated to listing all these packages with explanations of exactly what they do and what they affect.
ewokuk said:
Just grabbed package disabler pro. I just came from a rooted S5 and have always rooted my phones but might not bother this time (plus it isnt available yet anyway). disabled a few things that could obviously go but it was a nightmare trying to find any proper explanations of what different things actually did and what their dependencies are, even trying to google them, I generally just ended up with a list that someone else had produced of things they had disabled, but that doesnt help me decide if *I* should disable it because theres no explanations for what they actually do most of the time (and I could do without spending 10 mins trying to google several hundred packages that MIGHT be good to disable but I can't find an explanation for)!
Surprised there arent sites dedicated to listing all these packages with explanations of exactly what they do and what they affect.
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Lol same here but I came from nothing but Nexus devices. I was like wtf is bloatware? Lol
I disabled stuff I knew id never use, was very careful. Didn't touch anything that didn't have a proper name, like those "com.xxxx." packages.
Left Knox alone but killed anything that said bixby.
cliffr39 said:
Only thing I disabled was the Setup Wizard. It kept telling me my AT&T SIM card was not from Verizon Wireless, haha. Duh, I know it's not. (I had VzW when I preordered via Samsung.com then just ported over this week).
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You should Odin the att software. Your not getting all att bands on the vz SW.
suzook said:
You should Odin the att software. Your not getting all att bands on the vz SW.
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I don't see that over on Sam Mobile, you know where it might be this soon?
dansan382 said:
okay so i wasnt crazy. just clicking through did nothing, good to know
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It requires you to activate Knox for the program to work, so that popup you saw was the Knox EULA.
Maybe you can disable Knox after, but I didn't try and I wouldn't suggest it. There's an adblocker too for Samsung devices, AdHell, which also relies on Knox.
It's weird, these apps are using the hardcore "security" feature to give you features with no root.
I just disabled the two System Updates app to prevent my phone from updating. I re routed my bixby button for the camera and i'd like to keep it that way. I also disabled a couple other crap that I couldn't uninstall like some verizon apps.

Small Tip: Disable Lookout for Better Performance on the S8

I noticed some lag on my S8 and I realized that it might be lookout that's causing the lag, as I had it on a prior phone and it caused some lag on that phone.
Go to settings > apps > and find lookout and just press the disable button. For me, at least, I noticed a slight improvement in performance.
disclaimer: yes, I'm sure there are benefits to having Lookout scan and ensure all your apps are safe, but I get all my apps from the play store, and stick with ones I know. Do this at your own risk/responsibility.
Some other things I did that seemed to have helped:
1. I stopped opening the official facebook app. I use a FB wrapper app called 'simple pro' for facebook. Way lighter, less resource intensive.
2. I had installed Greenify to try to help hibernate apps, but I uninstalled it. I think the way it was trying to hibernate apps was causing some lag. Just my observation/assumption. But after I uninstalled, my phone is running way smoother.
That was the only reason why I paid for the disabling app was to get rid of lookout!
easyguy said:
That was the only reason why I paid for the disabling app was to get rid of lookout!
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You don't need to buy anything - you can just do it in the stock settings.
The disable app button is actually disabled for me.
So does this fix some lag time too or what improvement did you see offhand?
Mysticales said:
So does this fix some lag time too or what improvement did you see offhand?
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Yes, for me, it reduced the lag/stutter I was seeing here and there.
As a side, I was actually also using Greenify app to try to save battery life, but I noticed that after I UNINSTALLED it, my s8 is also running smoother.
I'll update the original post w/ things I was doing to improve performance - now it's way smoother.
anjelika said:
The disable app button is actually disabled for me.
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Weird, did you try force stopping it first?
ro_bro said:
Weird, did you try force stopping it first?
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The force close button is also disabled! I can only uninstall the updates and maybe try again but I didn't bother as I have the phone insured and they might require this program to run in case the phone gets stollen or something, I don't know...
anjelika said:
The force close button is also disabled! I can only uninstall the updates and maybe try again but I didn't bother as I have the phone insured and they might require this program to run in case the phone gets stollen or something, I don't know...
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maybe it's different by carrier? I have the tmobile s8.
ro_bro said:
maybe it's different by carrier? I have the tmobile s8.
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Same here, I'm on T-Mobile, the only difference is that I have the S8+. Will try with wife's S8 and see if the buttons are enabled.
anjelika said:
Same here, I'm on T-Mobile, the only difference is that I have the S8+. Will try with wife's S8 and see if the buttons are enabled.
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yeah see my attached screenshots.
To disable it on t-mobile you need to go into the lookout app and turn off the option to find your stolen phone. After doing so the force stop and disable buttons will no longer be greyed out.
Im trying to get Package Disabler pro to work, and after I activate PDP engine it just flashes the screen a bunch of times and says it has a network error

Should BIXBY be renamed shiXsby?

i'm so not impressed. I can't see any added value this brings, or really what is its purpose. It takes longer to do something than manually. Its another S-Voice. Am I alone?
ekerbuddyeker said:
i'm so not impressed. I can't see any added value this brings, or really what is its purpose. It takes longer to do something than manually. Its another S-Voice. Am I alone?
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I totally agree with you. After day or so playing with it I think is waste of hardware on Samsung end.
On Edge of Galaxy
I don't like it either.
Samsung should release a dating assistant, and call it SHAGSBY!
Anyone find that it causes massive lag on the phone if you use it? I had to reboot it after half a day because it brought it to a crawl. Now that I disabled it, it is back to normal.
My problem has been, Bixby voice just pops up out of no where recording me... which is strange because it has to be activated with "Hi Bixby" which isn't exactly easy to say mid sentence like "Hey Siri" can be activated by saying "Hey Im serious" I am disabling Bixby again, until they get this fixed. Samsung is already known to record audio with their TV's, I do not need another device secretly recording me.
I used PACKAGE DISABLER PRO to completely disable everything Bixby. What a complete waste of time that app is.
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Anyone find that it causes massive lag on the phone if you use it? I had to reboot it after half a day because it brought it to a crawl. Now that I disabled it, it is back to normal.
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What services or apps do I need to disable it completely?
Thank you

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