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Galaxy S (Epic, Captivate etc) VS EVO Comparison and thoughts.

I just got back from the ATT store and did a head to head with the Captivate and my EVO. I had briefly looked at the Vibrant earlier this week but didn't have time to really put it through it's paces. I have a couple more weeks before I have to decide if I keep my EVO and I have been on the fence about keeping it or bringing it back to wait for the Epic.
I figured that I may not be the only one on the fence so here are some of my observations.
For reference, I am fully rooted, running Fresh 1.0.1 and Netarchy's over clocking, under volt, 55 FPS kernel 3.6.4. I was overclocked at 1.152 ghz (on demand 128mhz min) for the duration of the comparison.
SIZE:
I was surprised that the EVO and the Captivate (Galaxy S) were about the same size width and height. I thought the Galaxy S would feel much smaller. Even though the Galaxy was a couple mils thinner and and a couple oz lighter. The way the EVO is tapered at the edges makes me feel that the actual volume of these devices were similar. I would say they are in the same ballpark size wise. The larger screen of the EVO was very obvious. The Evo's screen has 15% larger surface on a device that was about the same size and I liked that.
PERFORMANCE:
1. MENU NAVIGATION: scrolling fluidity appeared to be more or less on par. There were a few times the Galaxy was perhaps slightly smoother with scrolling through menus, but both seemed to stutter occasionally. DRAW
2. BENCHMARKS: Linpack scores were about 7.9 on the EVO and 8.3 on the Galaxy. Obviously the Hummingbird is faster and with Netarchy's custom kernel you can assume that the Snapdragon is optimized for the best possible performance and battery consumption. I imagine once custom kernels come out for the Galaxy, the performance gap will widen. For now, they are pretty close.
Quadrant scores on the EVO was about 560 and the Galaxy was 850. I have gotten higher scores on quadrant with previous kernels. My EVO's previous scores were about 610 on 3.5.1. Netarchy might have dialed back the performance a bit or I might have been on "performance" in Set CPU. Obviously 3D rendering was vastly superior on the Galaxy S, no surprises here.
4. BATTERY LIFE: I ran parallel applications on both devices, running benchmarks, playing games, surfing the web and watching online videos etc etc. I would constitute this as heavy usage. Both displays were set to auto brightness and I would say that the brightness on the screen looked equal to me. Durring this time, the battery on the Galaxy S decreased by 10% and the EVO by 12%. This is not exactly scientific but leads me to believe that the Galaxy has a 20% advantage in power effiency over the EVO. This is despite the fact that the Galaxy is not running an under volted custom kernel. However I was overclocking the EVO. I am not sure if they would be closer if I was running at stock speeds.
I can't wait for the day where I can watch video's and surf for 10-12 hours nonstop so I don't have to think about conserving power.
SCREEN
1. Resolution: The Galaxy was clearly inferior. I discussed this in a previous post. Pentile screen technology deployed n the Galaxy means that true addressable resolution is actually 392x653 not 480x800. This was very noticeable to me in graphics, photos, video and especially text. I hate to say it but Steve Jobs was on to something with his choice of a high resolution TFT. EVO really wins for readability.
2. Saturation and contrast: The Galaxy is superior. It is a matter of preference if you think it looks natural or not but benifits of S-AMOLED were very obvious. Everything was clearly more saturated on the Galaxy.
3. Viewing angle: Galaxy wins again. Deviations from face on viewing produced lower contrast ratios on the EVO's TFT and a kind of greying effect. Viewing angles on the Galaxy were almost 180 degrees with no loss of saturation. Amazing.
4. Brightness: The Maximum brighness setting on the EVO was brighter and more vibrant than the Galaxy S. On minimum brightness the Galaxy was far brighter. I am not sure how these settings relate to power consumption but on Max I prefer the EVO. On minimum the galaxy was still useable in the brightly lit store, the EVO's min setting looked washed out and I wanted to turn it up.
5. White balance: EVO's whites look much better. The Galaxy S' whites look grey or blue this made it feel dirty or dingy to me.
Watching you tube on standard (not HQ) was much more watchable on the EVO than on the Galaxy. This might be a network thing, but resolution, size and even colors looked better on the EVO. I was surprised. HQ on the EVO blew the Galaxy away.
Anyway those are my impressions. I am surprisingly no closer to making a decision. With all the buzz surrounding the S-AMOLED screens I was expecting to be blown away by the Galaxy's display but in reality it was more of a draw. In many ways I felt the EVO's display was superior. If power consumption and processing power were equal I would say EVO. I guess what remains to be seen is how the developer community will embrace these Galaxy S devices and what kinds of perfomance/power enhancements can be applied to the Hummingbird with 45nm. Clearly the EVO has been embraced my the developer community and if Gingerbread can be shoehorned on to the EVO, it will, regardless of HTC's support (Cyanogen for example). I don't want to be left in the cold when Gingerbread arrives.
I will say one thing. The iphone 4's display looks amazing. I have no intrest in owning an iphone because of the limitations of the platform but they really nailed it. I want a device with a 4.3 inch screen, 330 pixel density, TFT white balance and S-AMOLED viewing angles and contrast running android please.

good write-up - seems neutral as far as opinion and also like you took your time. Was looking for a writeup like this, thanks.

violinbf said:
I just got back from the ATT store and did a head to head with the Captivate and my EVO. I had briefly looked at the Vibrant earlier this week but didn't have time to really put it through it's paces. I have a couple more weeks before I have to decide if I keep my EVO and I have been on the fence about keeping it or bringing it back to wait for the Epic.
I figured that I may not be the only one on the fence so here are some of my observations.
For reference, I am fully rooted, running Fresh 1.0.1 and Netarchy's over clocking, under volt, 55 FPS kernel 3.6.4. I was overclocked at 1.152 ghz (on demand 128mhz min) for the duration of the comparison.
SIZE:
I was surprised that the EVO and the Captivate (Galaxy S) were about the same size width and height. I thought the Galaxy S would feel much smaller. Even though the Galaxy was a couple mils thinner and and a couple oz lighter. The way the EVO is tapered at the edges makes me feel that the actual volume of these devices were similar. I would say they are in the same ballpark size wise. The larger screen of the EVO was very obvious. The Evo's screen has 15% larger surface on a device that was about the same size and I liked that.
PERFORMANCE:
1. MENU NAVIGATION: scrolling fluidity appeared to be more or less on par. There were a few times the Galaxy was perhaps slightly smoother with scrolling through menus, but both seemed to stutter occasionally. DRAW
2. BENCHMARKS: Linpack scores were about 7.9 on the EVO and 8.3 on the Galaxy. Obviously the Hummingbird is faster and with Netarchy's custom kernel you can assume that the Snapdragon is optimized for the best possible performance and battery consumption. I imagine once custom kernels come out for the Galaxy, the performance gap will widen. For now, they are pretty close.
Quadrant scores on the EVO was about 560 and the Galaxy was 850. I have gotten higher scores on quadrant with previous kernels. My EVO's previous scores were about 610 on 3.5.1. Netarchy might have dialed back the performance a bit or I might have been on "performance" in Set CPU. Obviously 3D rendering was vastly superior on the Galaxy S, no surprises here.
4. BATTERY LIFE: I ran parallel applications on both devices, running benchmarks playing games, surfing the web and watching online videos etc etc. I would constitute this as heavy usage. Both displays were set to auto brightness and I would say that the brightness on the screen looked equal to me. Durring this time, the battery on the Galaxy S decreased by 10% and the EVO by 12%. This is not exactly scientific but leads me to believe that the Galaxy has a 20% advantage in power effiency over the EVO. This is despite the fact that the Galaxy is not running an under volted custom kernel. However I was overclocking the EVO. I am not sure if they would be closer if I was running at stock speeds.
I can't wait for the day where I can watch video's and surf for 10-12 hours nonstop so I don't have to think about conserving power.
SCREEN
1. Resolution: The Galaxy was clearly inferior. I discussed this in a previous post. Pentile screen technology deployed n the Galaxy means that true addressable resolution is actually 392x653 not 480x800. This was very noticeable to me in graphics, photos, video and especially text. I hate to say it but Steve Jobs was on to something with his choice of a high resolution TFT. EVO really wins for readability.
2. Saturation and contrast: The Galaxy is superior. It is a matter of preference if you think it looks natural or not but benifits of S-AMOLED were very obvious. Everything was clearly more saturated on the Galaxy.
3. Viewing angle: Galaxy wins again. Deviations from face on viewing produced lower contrast ratios on the EVO's TFT and a kind of greying effect. Viewing angles on the Galaxy were almost 180 degrees with no loss of saturation. Amazing.
4. Brightness: The Maximum brighness setting on the EVO was brighter and more vibrant than the Galaxy S. On minimum brightness the Galaxy was far brighter. I am not sure how these settings relate to power consumption but on Max I prefer the EVO. On minimum the galaxy was still useable in the brightly lit store, the EVO's min setting looked washed out and I wanted to turn it up.
5. White balance: EVO's whites look much better. The Galaxy S' whites look grey or blue this made it feel dirty or dingy to me.
Watching you tube on standard (not HQ) was much more watchable on the EVO than on the Galaxy. This might be a network thing, but resolution and colors and size looked better on the EVO. I was surprised. HQ on the EVO blew the Galaxy away.
Anyway those are my impressions. I am surprisingly no closer to making a decision. With all the buzz surrounding the S-AMOLED screens I was expecting to be blown away by the Galaxy's display but in reality it was more of a draw. In many ways I felt the EVO's display was superior. If power consumption and processing power were equal I would say EVO. I guess what remains to be seen is how the developer community will embrace these Galaxy S devices and what kinds of perfomance/power enhancements can be applied to the Hummingbird with 45nm. I don't want to be left in the cold when Gingerbread arrives.
I will say one thing. The iphone 4's display looks amazing. I have no intrest in owning an iphone because of the limitations of the platform but they really nailed it. I want a device with a 4.3 inch screen, 330 pixel density, TFT white balance and S-AMOLED viewing angles and contrast running android please.
OK, well, if you actually made it through all that...do you have any thoughts?
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Thanks for that detailed comparison post, you'll have to be patient for those specs but no doubt better devices are coming..
The iPhone 4's display is indeed amazing but personally left me wanting a bigger screen (even more so than on the 3gs) & then you would have to accept its platform-network..
I still would like to check out the upcoming Samsung Beam (although I wish it had a faster processor & larger screen, I'm quite curious to see its built-in projector in person).
If you can wait until the end of the year you'll likely have a better idea of the best near-future devices otherwise the EVO with 2.2 is the most appealing to me at present.
BTW, anyone still think official Froyo 2.2 on EVO is going to happen in July?

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Thanks for that detailed comparison post, you'll have to be patient for those specs but no doubt better devices are coming..
The iPhone 4's display is indeed amazing but personally left me wanting a bigger screen (even more so than on the 3gs) & then you would have to accept its platform-network..
I still would like to check out the upcoming Samsung Beam (although I wish it had a faster processor & larger screen, I'm quite curious to see its built-in projector in person).
If you can wait until the end of the year you'll likely have a better idea of the best near-future devices otherwise the EVO with 2.2 is the most appealing to me at present.
BTW, anyone still think official Froyo 2.2 on EVO is going to happen in July?
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Well, they did release the source fairly quickly (about a month or two after launch, idk exactly since I got my evo a week before the launch), and both sprint and htc said we should have it in july. I guess I'll wait until the 31st to make any solid predictions, but to me the release date is still up in the air.
btw- Great review. Was interested in the galaxy because of its performance but i'd rather have better looking movies than games so the evo's still on top...for now lol.

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Thanks for that detailed comparison post, you'll have to be patient for those specs but no doubt better devices are coming..
The iPhone 4's display is indeed amazing but personally left me wanting a bigger screen (even more so than on the 3gs) & then you would have to accept its platform-network..
I still would like to check out the upcoming Samsung Beam (although I wish it had a faster processor & larger screen, I'm quite curious to see its built-in projector in person).
If you can wait until the end of the year you'll likely have a better idea of the best near-future devices otherwise the EVO with 2.2 is the most appealing to me at present.
BTW, anyone still think official Froyo 2.2 on EVO is going to happen in July?
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I agree about the iphone's screen size. It is just a little too small for 2010. The clarity however is really compelling. It is the first time I have been able to read text on web pages without zooming. Browsing and reading text is probably what I do the most on my phone, even more than making calls.
The Beam looks cool! I haven't seen that yet. The projector could be really useful for business presentations and also movie watching. No need for a TV or HDMI out when you can just project Avatar on the wall! Contrast and brightness seems a bit low.
I don't now about official Froyo in July. HTC has said before the end of the year. Sense integration will take some time since it permeates Andoid extensively. I have this feeling that the Epic might be released with Froyo in late August early September. Samsung's Touch Wiz seems less pervasive than Sense and Samung seems hellbent on taking down HTC. Samsung has said Froyo will be available on Galaxy S phones in Korea in early August. I will be happy with Cyanogen 6 which should be any day now.

violinbf said:
I agree about the iphone's screen size. It is just a little too small for 2010. The clarity however is really compelling. It is the first time I have been able to read text on web pages without zooming. Browsing and reading text is probably what I do the most on my phone, even more than making calls.
The Beam looks cool! I haven't seen that yet. The projector could be really useful for business presentations and also movie watching. No need for a TV or HDMI out when you can just project Avatar on the wall! Contrast and brightness seems a bit low.
I don't now about official Froyo in July. HTC has said before the end of the year. Sense integration will take some time since it permeates Andoid extensively. I have this feeling that the Epic might be released with Froyo in late August early September. Samsung's Touch Wiz seems less pervasive than Sense and Samung seems hellbent on taking down HTC. Samsung has said Froyo will be available on Galaxy S phones in Korea in early August. I will be happy with Cyanogen 6 which should be any day now.
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Yeah I hope the iPhone 4 screen will motivate competitors to raise their bar but its awesome text clarity still seems tiny sans zooming regardless of its legibility so I'm hoping for larger screens. I was also disappointed with how weak the iPhone 4 speaker seemed. Didn't seem to compare to the EVO's speaker. The Samsung Beam apparently has "65 decibel" stereo speakers..
Here is a much longer (11 min) Samsung Beam video & I've seen other videos showing off annotated powerpoint slideshows & projection capabilities. Here is the Samsung link for its Beam model. Again I wish they put in a faster processor & larger screen but they claim up to 50" projected (a viewing size of five to 50 [email protected] meters) !
I prefer Launcher Pro or even stock 2.2. to Sense or Touchwiz & I hope Cyanogen 6 delivers (EVO has all that inspired dev support that new Samsung devices have yet to materialize which is a significant selling point ATM)
- Let us know what you decide

If I was aware of the Captivate, I would have waited for it instead of switching to spring. It's too late now.
Captivate
+faster cpu and gpu
+better battery life
+much lighter
+thinner
+screen is better in some ways
+16gb internal storage
+AT&T network (what I came from) is better around here
+Might end up selling more Galaxy S phones and hence have better all around support
+bluetooth 3.0
Evo
+4g (although 3g on other carriers is often just as fast)
+kickstand
+better front and rear cameras (but probably not by much)
+great user support community
+larger screen for the real estate
I'd like to see some solid reviews but I would call the Captivate a winner. I mainly bought the evo because it was the first android phone with supposedly a quality camera. Unfortunately, that hasn't proven true. If the camera isn't going to be all that good, I would prefer to have something that is better in most other ways.

Minjin said:
If I was aware of the Captivate, I would have waited for it instead of switching to spring. It's too late now.
Evo
+4g (although 3g on other carriers is often just as fast)
+kickstand
+better front and rear cameras (but probably not by much)
+great user support community
+larger screen for the real estate
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Please show me a carrier that gets 4 Mbps on 3G.
Even so, that won't be a plus once the Epic is out.... but then that phone alone has its own set of pros and cons.

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Every single one Ive seen has been way way way to blue tint

hydralisk said:
Please show me a carrier that gets 4 Mbps on 3G.
Even so, that won't be a plus once the Epic is out.... but then that phone alone has its own set of pros and cons.
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I've pulled 4-4.4 Mbps on AT&T 3G on a 3GS (Wilkes-Barre/Scranton area in PA). T-Mobile's 3G can also pull those speeds in certain areas (ones upgraded to 21Mbps).

These Galaxy S phones look like great devices. But I keep saying, I'm gonna have to wait for the next Galaxy S generation to see if Samsung actually starts supporting their devices (and see how big the community for their devices grows) before I jump from an HTC android device.
I'm gonna head to T-Mobile tomorrow just to play around with a Vibrant though. I'm really looking forward to it! The new TouchWiz (though kind of an eyesore) has some really cool features that I wish HTC would come stock on Android (or be added into Sense).
The lower resolution is a bit of a bummer but does the S-AMOLED screen make up for it even the slightest? After playing with my cousin's iPhone 4, I noticed that even though the screen is very sharp and crisp, it's only noticeable when it's up close right in your face. When held at regular viewing length, the screen really looks no different than my EVO. In fact, my cousin even admitted that he preferred the EVO at regular viewing length because the screen was bigger and easier to read.
Hopefully other companies do what Apple decided not to do and put that high resolution to good use on a large 4 inch+ screen.

hydralisk said:
Please show me a carrier that gets 4 Mbps on 3G.
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T-Mobile: 6.10 down / 1.29 up using Speedtest.net's Android app on the Samsung Vibrant yesterday (7/26) in Brooklyn, NY.
4.82 and 5.00 down speeds achieved within the same 5 minutes in the same spot (in case the 6.10 was a fluke).

A few things:
The screens on the different galaxy s models look different when compared side by side so you will have to wait for the epic too actually see what it will look like.
Nand on the other devices is partitioned in a ****ty way so speed can be an issue with the s in some ways. The epic should not have those issues with only 1gb.
The evo, hacked, is at their peak of its power so comparing it to a stock unit isn't fair.

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Yeah I hope the iPhone 4 screen will motivate competitors to raise their bar but its awesome text clarity still seems tiny sans zooming regardless of its legibility so I'm hoping for larger screens. I was also disappointed with how weak the iPhone 4 speaker seemed. Didn't seem to compare to the EVO's speaker. The Samsung Beam apparently has "65 decibel" stereo speakers..
Here is a much longer (11 min) Samsung Beam video & I've seen other videos showing off annotated powerpoint slideshows & projection capabilities. Here is the Samsung link for its Beam model. Again I wish they put in a faster processor & larger screen but they claim up to 50" projected (a viewing size of five to 50 [email protected] meters) !
I prefer Launcher Pro or even stock 2.2. to Sense or Touchwiz & I hope Cyanogen 6 delivers (EVO has all that inspired dev support that new Samsung devices have yet to materialize which is a significant selling point ATM)
- Let us know what you decide
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not trying to threadjack, but the beam... the projector is niche, but it kinda makes me feel funny in my pants. not for sprint though, so we'll have to wait for at least a year for something like that in the u.s.

I really only want a powervgx gpu because those phones are going to have the best gaming experience. Adreno's hardware is nothing to turn your nose up at, and they can draw like 22M triangles/second but their fillrate leaves something to be desired.
The bottom line is to get games to run optimally on any gpu, they have to be configured to run with your gpu. The fact that the iphone has a powervgx, means that the droidx, samsung galaxy, and any other phone with a powervgx will by default have a smoother, more compatible gaming experience out of the box.
That and qualcomm won't give us any decent drivers for the adreno. I wish they would just OS their userland drivers and let the community show off the muscle of the adreno.

ohmyggg said:
T-Mobile: 6.10 down / 1.29 up using Speedtest.net's Android app on the Samsung Vibrant yesterday (7/26) in Brooklyn, NY.
4.82 and 5.00 down speeds achieved within the same 5 minutes in the same spot (in case the 6.10 was a fluke).
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Proof with screen shots then, cause I don't believe that.
Sent from my EVO using XDA App

deprydation said:
Proof with screen shots then, cause I don't believe that.
Sent from my EVO using XDA App
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T-Mo really can get those speeds.
To the person who said 4mbps on AT&T, you're either reading (holding? ) it wrong, or you're a troll. Unless you're in Chicago (their only 7.2 market so far) you physically can't get above 3.2mbps. The best I ever got on AT&T is 2.8mbps

deprydation said:
Proof with screen shots then, cause I don't believe that.
Sent from my EVO using XDA App
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See 7/26 results from 9:04, 9:08, and 9:09am.
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If I don't need a hugely powerful phone, have I made the right choice?

Hi all,
When the N4 was announced I had my GNex up for sale within the hour, sold within two! The more I read about the Nexus 4, the more I am unsure it is actually for me. I do not play games and generally use my phone for browsing the net/forums, google currents, bit of music and social networking (Facebook etc.)
I am now unsure whether I have made the right choice, and whether I should snap-up another Nexus while people are selling them off cheap on the forums ready for the N4 upgrade.
I was hoping for upgrades in the following areas
Build quality... this is one area where I am fairly sure I would be happy! N4 looks great!
Screen quality... again, a fairly significant upgrade to me me as the Gnex screen always looked a little washed out and dull when sat alongside other handsets (One X, S3, S2 etc.)
Battery Life... Was hoping for this but am now unsure. Gnex seemed to heat up quite a lot and was looking forward to getting rid of that. it now seems that the N4 may have the same issues and reports of screen on time in the region of 3 hours do not seem that much of a step up from the Gnex
Processor... Whilst a speed boost would be welcomed, as I only use the phone for some casual browsing and not gaming I am unsure how much difference I will see.
Camera... Again was hoping for a major boost, but seems to be a minor incremental boost at best!
Any thoughts? Anyone else in the same position as me and wondering what to do? Price difference is in the region of £100-120 if I were to purchase like for like accessories etc.
Cheers,
Michael

The fact that it's "Nexus" also means you get a standard, Android experience, along with guaranteed quick updates (up until the point where the OS won't run smoothly on the device I guess; which should take a while). Other vendors for the most part offer updates slowly, and choose to make the general UI... non-standard (which usually has more downsides)

yeah... am only comparing the two nexus devices as that is all I would buy... love the specs of the S3 and can be picked up mint for about the same price as a new Nexus 4, but couldn't live without the updates

Literally everything is improved. You'll love it no matter what.
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One thing I wouldn't worry ahbout is battery life,
once the obvious software problems are fixed battery life is going to be good because:
-The battery at 2100mAh is pretty large
-IPS panels are allot more power efficient then Amoled screens, especially if your main use is web browsing
-The S4pro is the most efficient ARM quad-core and is the only one which allows to clock its cores independently
-There will be custom Kernels that allow undervolting and other features that improve battery life

I'm not a gamer either, but that didn't stopped me from getting this I personally think you won't regret getting it, but if you don't like it, you can always just return it and get something else
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel

wurzelsepp3 said:
One thing I wouldn't worry ahbout is battery life,
once the obvious software problems are fixed battery life is going to be good because:
-The battery at 2100mAh is pretty large
-IPS panels are allot more power efficient then Amoled screens, especially if your main use is web browsing
-The S4pro is the most efficient ARM quad-core and is the only one which allows to clock its cores independently
-There will be custom Kernels that allow undervolting and other features that improve battery life
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How much of a difference will custom kernels and ROMs make to the battery life? Roughly? 10% or more?
I know my current Galaxy 3 gives me an improvement of almost 30% with custom firmware, but that's because of removing the samsung bloatware.

I try to get the fastest, most powerful phone or computer out there that's at a reasonable price. By reasonable I mean most power per dollar. The people that say they don't need a super fast phone or computer are usually the ones complaining that Web pages open slow or it keeps freezing and slowing down. The better hardware you get, the longer you will be satisfied with the device. And for this price with this hardware/software? You gotta jump on it. You may not need a phone that could run crysis but if you could get it for the same or cheaper price as a lesser spec'd phone, wouldn't you?
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cyberkid2002 said:
I was hoping for upgrades in the following areas
Build quality... this is one area where I am fairly sure I would be happy! N4 looks great! I think we're going to love the build quality. I've said for a couple of years now that if Google could put out a Nexus device that felt like the iPhone 4/4S in the hand, then they'd really be on to something. I believe that's what LG has done here.
Screen quality... again, a fairly significant upgrade to me me as the Gnex screen always looked a little washed out and dull when sat alongside other handsets (One X, S3, S2 etc.) IMO, the screen is going to be great. From everything I've read, the screen is just a slight notch below the One X...so that would make it fantastic. And every review I've read that compared it to the GNex screen says that it's MUCH better and much easier to see outdoors in sunlight. This is a major upgrade.
Battery Life... Was hoping for this but am now unsure. Gnex seemed to heat up quite a lot and was looking forward to getting rid of that. it now seems that the N4 may have the same issues and reports of screen on time in the region of 3 hours do not seem that much of a step up from the Gnex. Again, this is something we'll have to wait and see (as everyone's day-to-day use is different), but I've seen a couple of reviews that say the Nexus 4 gets about the same, or just below, the battery life of the S3. If that's the case, then (for me at least), I'm golden. Yesterday I got 5 hours screen-on time on my S3 (50% brightness, stock rooted ROM, power save turned off, etc.) and I still had 23% battery life left. That's pretty darn good!
Processor... Whilst a speed boost would be welcomed, as I only use the phone for some casual browsing and not gaming I am unsure how much difference I will see. I think you'll see a major boost, even if you don't need it. Apps will open faster and things will just be snappier. I'd much rather have more performance than I need rather than the other way around.
Camera... Again was hoping for a major boost, but seems to be a minor incremental boost at best! This is the one place where I have to really disagree. The camera is VERY important to me (I use it daily in my job) and the shots I've seen seem to show the camera is a MAJOR upgrade over the GNex. While I didn't find the GNex camera to be awful, it certainly couldn't hold a candle to my S3 camera. If this camera is anywhere near as good as the S3, I'm going to be very pleased.
Any thoughts? Anyone else in the same position as me and wondering what to do? Price difference is in the region of £100-120 if I were to purchase like for like accessories etc.
Cheers,
Michael
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See my replies above. I believe you've made a great decision. :good:

Engadget has had the most negative response to the battery life of anyone, and they still got 3 minutes longer out of the Nexus 4 than the Galaxy Nexus. Assuming they never fix whatever was causing the poor battery life, you'll see the same as what you get on your Galaxy Nexus.

If you received your G3, share your impressions here

Hello xda users,
Most of us are waiting this phone and want this phone. And of course before buying we should know some information about it, camera, display, battery life, etc. I was thinking about battery life of this phone, 3000mAh is enough for qhd screen, I know LG did some tricks about battery life, but anyway, dunno if will be ok for 1 day usage. I've seen other threads are allready open, Tmobile users, UK users, Indian users, etc, but will be awesome if those who received G3 will share here impressions, pro and cons of this device, will be very useful for many users to find more information about this phone :fingers-crossed:

I have a South Korea version of 3GB ram.
I'm not good at English
So I will summary for you by using 3 point.
1. QHD is overspec.
Almost Koreans think so too.
G3 has animation framedrop when window is changed than G2 (I have used G2)
But it is not serious for use.
2. Good Design
Almost Korean has same mind.
In my think, Design forgives all problem.
Ecstatic.
3. High Temperature
the cause is QHD. SD801 is want.
Power button is heated. Oh my Summer......
Nevertheless, launching sale record or populor of G3 is more hot than SGS5 in Korea.
I think it seems like victory of design.
(GS5 is called skin pore in Korea.)
Although There is a reason like Very cheap price for launching sale. (Limited period. But sgs5 has also sale at the same time)

KR LUCKY GOLDSTAR said:
I have a South Korea version of 3GB ram.
I'm not good at English
So I will summary for you by using 3 point.
1. QHD is overspec.
Almost Koreans think so too.
G3 has animation framedrop when window is changed than G2 (I have used G2)
But it is not serious for use.
2. Good Design
Almost Korean has same mind.
In my think, Design forgives all problem.
Ecstatic.
3. High Temperature
the cause is QHD. SD801 is want.
Power button is heated. Oh my Summer......
Nevertheless, launching sale record or populor of G3 is more hot than SGS5 in Korea.
I think it seems like victory of design.
(GS5 is called skin pore in Korea.)
Although There is a reason like Very cheap price for launching sale. (Limited period. But sgs5 has also sale at the same time)
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Sir, thanks for info. How is battery life? You said you had G2, how is compare to G2?

Mr.Greg said:
Sir, thanks for info. How is battery life? You said you had G2, how is compare to G2?
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I cant test it myself. Now My g3 have become a brick by my fault. Moreover I cant find F400S firmware....
But people say g3 has a new battery saving skill.
So it is scored good point by some reviewer.

I'm also a Korean user of G3, but wanted to share a different info about G3.
In South Korea, LG actually spread the G3 almost near $100 and 50K ppl actually bought this phone only after the launch, which was at May 28.
After that, lots of people talked about its' spec and negative stuffs.
1. QHD display.
Some people(but many) said QHD is overspec. Lg setted the sharpening too high that letters were too sharpy. But, seeing the websites in PC version was amazing. Also, people said some have 'yellowish' displays. Well, most phones were to blueish and the color temp was too high, and people are thinking that this was the normal value, but, our monitors in PCs' color temperture is the same as G3, and people are seeing the yellowish colors. However, there are people who have a more yellowish displays.
2. Battery
3K mAh battery was a big battery, however, playing a movie stimuneously, ran 8 hours of battery life. However, light users usually uses for 24 hours or more. Playing movies or games will dramatically decrease battery life. QHD display consumes lots of battery life.
3. Temperature
Few people experiences high temperature on just internet surfing.
4. Design
G3 is the best design ever and Gold is the best
5. Camera
DSLR uses 300 ppi to take a picture, but G3 uses 72 ppi, which compresses the pixels. Seeing in normal or zoom-out view is pretty, but you'll see compressed pixels when you zoom in.
- Overall(in my view)
Now, I want to say about what I felt about G3. The design is very pretty. The size of the phone is same as Note 2. The grap of the phone is better than Note 2. Gold is pretty, and Black is also pretty, but if you want to have some cases on your G3, white is the winner, cuz black and gold have very few options to wear some cases.
My display have no yellowish colors, no vertical lines, decent temperature, long battery life. I think I got the normal one. I am very happy to get G3 and I'm satisfied that I have no deflects on my phone as others have a lot. Happy Happy~

Skynogi, Sir, how are photos in low light?
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"SG5 is called skin pore in Korea."
Hahaha this just made my day!.
Also, thank you for sharing your thoughts goldstar.
Sent from my Xperia Z1

Well, this is all not very positive, i think i will reconsider buying one. Thank you guys for your thougts
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How is the performance? Do you experience any lags or stuttering?
Thanks

Korea version bought in HK yesterday, F400K. The below review is not positive, but I really think i have a defect version. But my seller is refusing to let me compare with a different one, so I can't tell if it is a hardware or software issue.
* screen is gorgeous, although the sample video supplied by LG is way over sharpened, they still look nice, better than nexus 5
* camera quality is better, don't know about the laser, but definitely focusing faster and more accurate than nexus 5
* the phone holds very well and you don't feel it that much bigger compared to nexus 5 when holding, the buttons at the back are actually not bad, and you don't really need them a lot with the knock on/off feature.
* The phone lags big time compared to nexus 5. I can type much faster than the words showing up. It is so annoying that I wanted to go back to my old nexus 5. It is not so notable with the default LG keyboard, but I am using the google pinyin keyboard and it is slow as hell when typing Chinese. The same input method is butter smooth on nexus 5. I uninstalled all of the korean apps that i could and tried to stop every single process without any luck.
* Battery is not good although it maybe too early to tell. I used auto brightness with the level set to around 60(the level seems to also effect the overall auto brighness). No heavy use, just normal texting, browsing, and 15 minutes maps/gps. A full charge went down to 20% with 1.5 hours screen on time. It was on battery for about 16 hours. I had to charge it today, next time i will report with a proper screenshot. I suspect it may have something to do with korea radio running on HK LTE nextwork.

Oh dear....this is not what I wanted to hear.

saveferris said:
Oh dear....this is not what I wanted to hear.
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As mentioned earlier, I really think mine has some serious software or hardware issues. I just disabled 5g wifi and LTE. My phone is now on the second fully charged battery with only normal wifi and 3g connections, will report back the battery status tomorrow

I'll save judgement
This lag when typing probably isn't "normal," it'd be nice if he could get his hands on another one.

catbear said:
As mentioned earlier, I really think mine has some serious software or hardware issues. I just disabled 5g wifi and LTE. My phone is now on the second fully charged battery with only normal wifi and 3g connections, will report back the battery status tomorrow
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Sir, thanks for your small review, and post here tomorrow battery life. Also, can you do some photos in low light and see how is quality?

From what I have read so far battery life seems to be the same as the Z1, which is decent for a 2k display, but I would have preferred to have a a 1080p display with sick battery life
Sent from my Xperia Z1

remember these are the first batch..they will fix them along the way

catbear said:
As mentioned earlier, I really think mine has some serious software or hardware issues. I just disabled 5g wifi and LTE. My phone is now on the second fully charged battery with only normal wifi and 3g connections, will report back the battery status tomorrow
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Thank you for your review. Especially since I also have a nexus 5 which is hard to beat, only the camera is crap. Is the camera better then the nexus 5 camera? Focus is off at 7 out of 10 on nexus 5.
Anyway, your device must be faulty and if not...well then LG is done after delivering such peace of s*** I hope you can get your hands on another one.
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catbear said:
As mentioned earlier, I really think mine has some serious software or hardware issues. I just disabled 5g wifi and LTE. My phone is now on the second fully charged battery with only normal wifi and 3g connections, will report back the battery status tomorrow
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Yes but none of the reviews/experiences in this thread are really good/positive.
Hoping for more first hand experience, but I am not too excited any more.
Thank you for your responses to all who posted their perspective on here, and please keep on sharing your thoughts!

Fir3blade said:
Yes but none of the reviews/experiences in this thread are really good/positive.
Hoping for more first hand experience, but I am not too excited any more.
Thank you for your responses to all who posted their perspective on here, and please keep on sharing your thoughts!
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I'd reserve judgment until we see some first hand experiences in EU/US. From the sounds of this thread, it sounds like LG rushed the G3 in Korean market and there are problems.

bobbarker2 said:
I'd reserve judgment until we see some first hand experiences in EU/US. From the sounds of this thread, it sounds like LG rushed the G3 in Korean market and there are problems.
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Sure, it's too early for judgment, but I doubt LG will be able to fix the issues.
This QHD screen is totally unnecessary, but will cause problems like lag, heat and less battery life.
Don't get me wrong, I own a G2 and want the G3 so bad...

Change your nexus 6 Resolution too 1080x1920

I found this on YouTube and its a pretty good mod. You don't even see any difference.
Boost Nexus 6 Performance & Battery Life by Lowering the Resolution [How...: http://youtu.be/9HREkRpPVa4

I'll take the hit on battery life for a higher resolution. That's part of the reason why this phone is so great.

dave2metz said:
I'll take the hit on battery life for a higher resolution. That's part of the reason why this phone is so great.
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I feel you..... but serious tho you can't see no difference at all.

Sounds interesting, might give this a try.

Have you seen a noticeable difference in battery life? If this would give an extra hour or two at least, I could see doing it. If it's only a few extra mins, maybe not. Guess it can't hurt to try.

Nothing for battery time but here are some AnTuTu tests.
2d and 3d results, Nexus 6 stock, rooted, unencrypted 5.01.
Ran AnTuTu before making the change...
2d - 1596
3d - 16910 (2560x1440)
Made the change and ran again...
2d - 1636
3d - 20004 (1920x1080)
Changed back to stock and ran again...
2d - 1636
3d - 16303 (2560x1440)

I suspect that it would actually be more clear at 1280x720. Reason is that this is precisely the half-way point, which means that one "virtual" pixel takes up 2pixelsX2pixels on the physical screen. At 1920x1080, you're somewhere in between, which means that pixel boundaries won't line up to real pixels.
1280x720 also is the "full" resolution for one direction of the RGBG subpixel matrix.

tcrews said:
Nothing for battery time but here are some AnTuTu tests.
2d and 3d results, Nexus 6 stock, rooted, unencrypted 5.01.
Ran AnTuTu before making the change...
2d - 1596
3d - 16910 (2560x1440)
Made the change and ran again...
2d - 1636
3d - 20004 (1920x1080)
Changed back to stock and ran again...
2d - 1636
3d - 16303 (2560x1440)
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That's sad. I got 51590 on antutu, stock decrypted

wmfreak said:
That's sad. I got 51590 on antutu, stock decrypted
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Not really.
I've gotten 52574, 52140 and 52083 all stock, decrypted for the full score just randomly running AnTuTu full test.
I just pulled out my phone today, ran the test and reported the 2d and 3d numbers only.
My full scores today were.
Initial - 51180
change - 54067
back to stock - 49606
These were all run back to back and the phone was getting warmer so that may be why the score dropped as much as it did for the final run. All runs previous to today have been in the 52,000+ range.

I changed mine to 1280x720, with a density of 320. It looks pretty good, with some minor graphical issues. At normal resolution 3d is around 17k.
2d: 1629
3d: 21205

I'll wait for your guys testing on battery life

Nice. gotta try it.

When my phone is sitting idle my GPU spends most of its time at 240 MHz, instead of 300 MHz at stock resolution. I don't know that this will save much battery as our 805's don't struggle with 1440p like the snap dragon 801 does. My wife's S5 would probably benefit from this more as it is fairly easy to bog down.
I'm having video player stuttering and pausing while trying to play 4k video that I recorded with the phone. I also noticed while navigating today that the phone didn't get as hot as it normally did, but there's a whole lot of variables that can affect that. Just some observations, I'll see how this works out tomorrow as far as battery life on a typical day.

No battery life yet eh?
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From the poster of the video
Anything's possible with root! But to be clear, this doesn't change the fact that your phone still has to power the extra pixels (because they're still physically there), it only helps with your GPU in that it doesn't have to process the extra pixels. But less processing generally equals less battery drain and smoother performance, and every little bit helps.
So basically sounds like battery life gains are going be very marginal at best.

Device looks like crappy with 1080p density 420. Icons looks like samsung s3. If you want that, go buy a S3

fethi2 said:
Device looks like crappy with 1080p density 420. Icons looks like samsung s3. If you want that, go buy a S3
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I disagree with your statement, I don't see a difference at all

venturizhou said:
From the poster of the video
Anything's possible with root! But to be clear, this doesn't change the fact that your phone still has to power the extra pixels (because they're still physically there), it only helps with your GPU in that it doesn't have to process the extra pixels. But less processing generally equals less battery drain and smoother performance, and every little bit helps.
So basically sounds like battery life gains are going be very marginal at best.
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Pure snake oil. Changing resolution does nothing. Your display/GPU is still having to draw all images at its native resolution regardless of what you set it to. Unless you picture box the screen some how so the processor isn't having to draw a full screen, this will have no effect on battery.
In fact, assuming the GPU does process the image at 1080 first, it is having to process it again to make it fit the 1440 screen. Stands to reason that would cost you battery life.

mr pnut said:
I feel you..... but serious tho you can't see no difference at all.
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But serious though...the difference in battery life is most-likely extremely negligible.
The display is still pushing power to all of the pixels...the only battery you're saving is the CPU working slightly harder to create higher-resolution outputs. This is about the same as changing the CPU frequency to like 5% less than normal...you might gain another ~15 minutes of screen on-time.

I had the wonderful sensor Ind wake lock today, so battery life definitely sucked. I'm hitting 5 hours SOT with 15% left as I type this. That's about 1.5 hours SOT shy of an average day with no wake lock issues and 1440p. As we all knew battery life would get at best a very minor bump with this, the screen is still lighting all the pixels after all. Oh well, it was worth trying out, but if Google would just fix these dam wake locks it would save many of us a ton of battery life! Back to beautiful 1440p

Galaxy S6 Reviews Incoming!

GsmArena
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s6-review-1227.php
NCIXcom
http://youtu.be/I5YdLF2DdbM
Mobile Review
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/samsung-galaxy-s6.shtml
Keep adding them guys, I don't have the time. Enjoy.

recklesslife85 said:
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s6-review-1227.php
Battery life.. Expected, was never gonna be better than the S5. I use a 6 Plus right now and dunno if I can go backwards on battery life but so want the Edge.
On the other hand it looks good when you consider the display resolution and smaller battery.
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I don't know, looks like the review is rushed TBF.
Display brightness shows lower compared to S5, when we know that S6 has higher brightness than S5. It has already been found by Displaymate, and also hi-tech.mail.ru did display analysis. Even Samsung mentioned this, so no way I can believe that they found S5 to have higher brightness.
GSMArena mentions better speakers in S5, which is complete nuts.

That review seems botched, I don't think their testing methodology is particularly accurate either. The S6 using similar firmware and a more energy efficient display should have achieved similar or better results as well. Either way, if this is a legitimate problem, we can see Samsung seeding an expedited "emergency" firmware patch.

CLARiiON said:
I don't know, looks like the review is rushed TBF.
Display brightness shows lower compared to S5, when we know that S6 has higher brightness than S5. It has already been found by Displaymate, and also hi-tech.mail.ru did display analysis. Even Samsung mentioned this, so no way I can believe that they found S5 to have higher brightness.
GSMArena mentions better speakers in S5, which is complete nuts.
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Yeah I don't trust this review either. Need to hear from others. I am pretty sure the S6 speaker is much louder than the S5

The review mentioned no removable battery and no SD card like 7 times lol it felt a little tainted to be honest.

I feel like that review was written before they even got their hands on the S6. They mentioned the lack of removable storage like 18 times and all the factual information presented by Samsung at the release of the S6, they seemed to find the opposite result.
Bring on Annandtech's Review!
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It was a rather odd review for them with constantly repeated points and some of the testing seemed strange or rather a bit off. Certainly not one of their better reviews. Interesting they just reduced the Edge to a small note at the end, as it sounds like they might not do a separate review for it.

Agreed, poor review from GSM Arena.
I've begun to doubt the quality of their reviews recently and this review was just about the worst I've read yet.
It seemed to have a very negative slant, its as if they thought the readers would hate it because of the lack of microsd/not easily removal battery and wanted to side with them preemptively but didn't focus too much on the benefits those changes bring e.g. quite a bit slimmer than GS5, ultra fast storage speed, more storage size options.
As others have pointed out the camera review was also a bit lax, particular in regards to low light which is meant to be the main point of improvement over the GN4 camera.

As others in this thread have mentioned. Something is very wrong with parts of this review and that's not just being hopeful as someone who has a pre-order in for this phone.
Speaker volume, Screen brightness, Battery life. All seem very wrong.
They are saying that compared to the S5:
Not even 1 hour less each Web browsing and Video playback
But 10 hours less talk time?? That just doesn't add up.
They are saying close to S4 numbers for battery. That just can't be..
Yes, the S4 has a 2600mah battery close to the S6 but tech has come quite a long way since then and everything should be more efficient than that.
My guess. This is a buggy (I will mostly blame Google and their totally botched Lollipop, but some Samsung tweaks may be needed too) early device that should not have been reviewed as retail.
That might explain battery life but that still leaves speaker sound and screen brightness. Doesn't make sense.

I think OnePlus 2 will beat Samsung Galaxy S6 in every aspects!

Why?

David_freestyle said:
Why?
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Ignore him....
I think this cleverly marketed, little guy (routing for the small dog is fun) phone will be better than the best phone this year that has no competition because the generic little guys will be worse in every way but cheaper.

Yes, they will only care about the price...

I'll wait for Anandtech's review.

SuperMan(Alex) said:
I think OnePlus 2 will beat Samsung Galaxy S6 in every aspects!
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Maybe..but you have to be able to buy it for that to matter lol plus with out cm building the software.. Its an uphill climb

For those who didn't like GSMArena's Review, what I'm going to say is, don't raise your expectations for AnandTech's one, especially on battery life, in fact, those of you getting the S6 I say prepare to forever defend the S6 battery life, I foresee many threads WRT Screen On Time and a flood of complaints. AnandTech did mention in the Note 4 Exynos 5433 review that despite the new architecture the 5433 was quite an aggressive CPU and the same may now be true for the 7420 despite 14nm.
With a tiny 2550mAh battery and QHD display there is only so much the 14nm Exynos7420 can do to save energy, put that together with Lollipop which isn't as efficient as Google claimed, and you end up with the sort of battery results GSMArena got.
Don't hold your hopes up for AnandTech, they will be brutaly honest (I love that about them), take note how much GSMArena candy coated the GS6 Review, its an absolute cause for concern, IMO.

POLO_i780 said:
For those who didn't like GSMArena's Review, what I'm going to say is, don't raise your expectations for AnandTech's one, especially on battery life, in fact, those of you getting the S6 I say prepare to forever defend the S6 battery life, I foresee many threads WRT Screen On Time and a flood of complaints. AnandTech did mention in the Note 4 Exynos 5433 review that despite the new architecture the 5433 was quite an aggressive CPU and the same may now be true for the 7420 despite 14nm.
With a tiny 2550mAh battery and QHD display there is only so much the 14nm Exynos7420 can do to save energy, put that together with Lollipop which isn't as efficient as Google claimed, and you end up with the sort of battery results GSMArena got.
Don't hold your hopes up for AnandTech, they will be brutaly honest (I love that about them), take note how much GSMArena candy coated the GS6 Review, its an absolute cause for concern, IMO.
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I have to agree with you. Last year gsmarena gave 9.36 hours (wifi time ) for s5 and anandtech 10.2. Not a big difference.
The only thing that bothers me is that I was ready to preorder s6 but now I have to wait for other reviews
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I personally need half a days use. I'm a heavy users but Ive wrapped my life in wireless chargers. I have 4 around my house, mycar (I drive 4 hours a day) and at work. I know I don't meet the standard user. But for me.. It should be fine

POLO_i780 said:
For those who didn't like GSMArena's Review, what I'm going to say is, don't raise your expectations for AnandTech's one, especially on battery life, in fact, those of you getting the S6 I say prepare to forever defend the S6 battery life, I foresee many threads WRT Screen On Time and a flood of complaints. AnandTech did mention in the Note 4 Exynos 5433 review that despite the new architecture the 5433 was quite an aggressive CPU and the same may now be true for the 7420 despite 14nm.
With a tiny 2550mAh battery and QHD display there is only so much the 14nm Exynos7420 can do to save energy, put that together with Lollipop which isn't as efficient as Google claimed, and you end up with the sort of battery results GSMArena got.
Don't hold your hopes up for AnandTech, they will be brutaly honest (I love that about them), take note how much GSMArena candy coated the GS6 Review, its an absolute cause for concern, IMO.
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Few repeated things gets mentioned time and again. It has been proven multiple times that QHD is not a concern for batterylife, yet every 17sec we see someone complaining about QHD and batterylife. I am sure if you would have followed the discussion you will find ample amount of posts explaining AMOLED QHD power consumption from various reliable sources.
As for Exynos 5433, it's not same as 7420. That should be obvious to everyone. That uses more than a year old GTS scheduler as mentioned by Andrei. And it was obvious that the software stack needed to be optimized on the 5433 to make it more efficient. heck, that SOC is even running on 32-bit even though it's capable to run on 64-bit. That's just lazy or some deliberate policy from Samsung. And it might be because it wasn't sold in many countries, even the Gear VR doesn't work on Exynos Note 4 (not atleast couple of months back).
Comparing 5433 vs 7420 is doing apples vs orange. Totally different motivation and stakes are much much higher for 7420.
There is no reason to conclude anything on 7420 based on 5433. They are different SOCs, and the motivation to optimize 7420 is much much higher than 5433.

CLARiiON said:
Few repeated things gets mentioned time and again. It has been proven multiple times that QHD is not a concern for batterylife, yet every 17sec we see someone complaining about QHD and batterylife. I am sure if you would have followed the discussion you will find ample amount of posts explaining AMOLED QHD power consumption from various reliable sources.
As for Exynos 5433, it's not same as 7420. That should be obvious to everyone. That uses more than a year old GTS scheduler as mentioned by Andrei. And it was obvious that the software stack needed to be optimized on the 5433 to make it more efficient. heck, that SOC is even running on 32-bit even though it's capable to run on 64-bit. That's just lazy or some deliberate policy from Samsung. And it might be because it wasn't sold in many countries, even the Gear VR doesn't work on Exynos Note 4 (not atleast couple of months back).
Comparing 5433 vs 7420 is doing apples vs orange. Totally different motivation and stakes are much much higher for 7420.
There is no reason to conclude anything on 7420 based on 5433. They are different SOCs, and the motivation to optimize 7420 is much much higher than 5433.
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I own a Note 4, I know how efficient QHD SuperAMOLED is, I get 8hours SOT daily, you don't have to tell me how efficient it is.
The efficiency of SuperAMOLED and a 14nm cannot do much though when the phone has a QHD display coupled with a tiny battery. THE VERY LEAST Samsung could have done is keep the 2800mAh battery of the S5, the S6 would have had incredible battery results with that battery, dropping battery size by 200mAh or more while throwing in more spec is going to cancel out the new super efficient CPU and screen.
I would love to see how the S6 manages when running Google Chrome for long periods, that browser will do a number on that puny 2550mAh battery, regardless of how efficient the CPU and screen are.