Flashing T-Mobile -> Unlocked? - Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers

Would it be possible without a booloader unlock?

Unlocked as in US unlocked version? If Samsung did the same they did with the S7 variants, then yes. And by looking at the model numbers, it looks like a pretty good chance.

Outbreak444 said:
Unlocked as in US unlocked version? If Samsung did the same they did with the S7 variants, then yes. And by looking at the model numbers, it looks like a pretty good chance.
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Thanks for the information -- I haven't used Sammy phones in a while, a bit out of touch. If that is indeed true, that's great news -- I'd hate to be under the thumbs of carriers for updates.

komugi said:
Thanks for the information -- I haven't used Sammy phones in a while, a bit out of touch. If that is indeed true, that's great news -- I'd hate to be under the thumbs of carriers for updates.
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Keep in mind the bootloaders will still be locked though.

Yes with ODIN as long as you are on the Snapdragon 835 instead of Exynos 8895. As long as its from like SamMobile or updato it should be fine. If its signed by Samsung officially it should be flash with ODIN.

Outbreak444 said:
Keep in mind the bootloaders will still be locked though.
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Does the units bought through Samsung have unlocked bootloaders?

komugi said:
Does the units bought through Samsung have unlocked bootloaders?
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Not the US versions.

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128GB/6GB Version, is it confirmed...?

Hi Guys,
Is it pretty much officially confirmed that the 6GB RAM, 128GB model will not be sold in the US?
Such a shame, I would have bought this with 6gb memory with a $100 more, than the Zenfone 3 Deluxe...
I believe they said that it will be made available to the international market in the future. No precise date tough...
I'm sure it will sell well no matter where it is launched. Those are some gaudy numbers.
They might be waiting for the SD821
Sent from my SM-G935F
allan1229 said:
They might be waiting for the SD821
Sent from my SM-G935F
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Very unlikely since it's already out in China wth s820...
Thanks for your responses guys! Any one of you thinking of getting the 128 International model for here? Will it work with our GSM providers in the US?
Thanks!
ProFragger said:
Thanks for your responses guys! Any one of you thinking of getting the 128 International model for here? Will it work with our GSM providers in the US?
Thanks!
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If you mean the 128gb version from China, it will probably work but you won't have full coverage and 3G at best.
If you mean the 128gb version when it's made available, it'll be fully compatible, as is the interbationnal 64gb version.
djona12 said:
If you mean the 128gb version from China, it will probably work but you won't have full coverage and 3G at best.
If you mean the 128gb version when it's made available, it'll be fully compatible, as is the interbationnal 64gb version.
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Thanks bud, yeah I meant the 128gb Chinese version in case that version never arrives here. I am surprised that the Chinese model will have 0 US LTE compatibility, huh?
ProFragger said:
Thanks bud, yeah I meant the 128gb Chinese version in case that version never arrives here. I am surprised that the Chinese model will have 0 US LTE compatibility, huh?
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I can't say for sure LTE capability on the chinese version in the US is inexistent but i do believe that it's not optimal. I don't know what bands are used in the US. With that said, you can easily look it up and compare the bands you need with the bands on the chinese version
ProFragger said:
Thanks bud, yeah I meant the 128gb Chinese version in case that version never arrives here. I am surprised that the Chinese model will have 0 US LTE compatibility, huh?
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Correct, no US LTE bands, as is usually the case for Chinese models.
xtermmin said:
Correct, no US LTE bands, as is usually the case for Chinese models.
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Wow this is such a news to me! And since this is my first ZTE I will be interested in, do you know if ZTE generally offers unlocked Bootloaders and kernel sources? AKA is this a good Development community phone?
Thanks!
ProFragger said:
Wow this is such a news to me! And since this is my first ZTE I will be interested in, do you know if ZTE generally offers unlocked Bootloaders and kernel sources? AKA is this a good Development community phone?
Thanks!
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Unlocked bootloaders, no, ZTE has no history of unlocking BLs. They did say, however, that they'll be doing it for the Axon 7 at some point. When that'll be, nobody knows.
Kernel sources are already out, but they're not much use until a BL unlock comes out.
xtermmin said:
Unlocked bootloaders, no, ZTE has no history of unlocking BLs. They did say, however, that they'll be doing it for the Axon 7 at some point. When that'll be, nobody knows.
Kernel sources are already out, but they're not much use until a BL unlock comes out.
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Thanks for the education! So no unlocked BL meaning, no TWRP and likely no CM 13, 14...? But how about Rooting, has that been horrendous as well?
Thanks!

thinking about s7 edge - newb questions

Hey All!
I'm currently using the s5 active, and I'm looking for an upgrade. I'm looking for a phone with a great camera, so obviously s7 edge has come up.
I'm planning on using this phone primarily in Vietnam, so I wanted to ask a few questions about which variant you all suggest.
1. Are all versions sim unlocked? I read online that verizon is, but I also read that some other ones I need to buy codes. Is it relatively easy to unlock the other variants (without paying money)? I'm not shy about flashing and odin things so if it's complicated that's fine too, as long as it's possible.
2. Hows the unified development? I love flashing roms and trying out new ones, if you were to buy a new s7 edge and didn't care about carrier, is there one that you would recommend over the others? I'm on the ATT s5 active now, and locked bootloader sucks. So I'm hoping to avoid that if I can.
If you can buy the exynos version, it's SIM unlock and easily rootable. All USA version are based on Qualcomm and with locked boot loader so no development for it.
G935 exynos is your choice, but I'd wait for S8
Anik49 said:
If you can buy the exynos version, it's SIM unlock and easily rootable. All USA version are based on Qualcomm and with locked boot loader so no development for it.
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Ah okay. Maybe I'll check out some other phones then. Thanks!
yaro666 said:
G935 exynos is your choice, but I'd wait for S8
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Thanks! haha, but since I'm not on any US plan, I figured I'd buy a used one instead. Although, if I wait till the s8 comes out, I'm sure there will be a nice price drop for a used s7.
Although now I gotta think if I want to look into HTC or LG for my development needs =D
Ah. One more question. People are generally saying touchwiz now isn't terrible. So if carriers have OTA updates, are they easily flashed in other countries? With my att sg5, it was pretty difficult to get updates abroad.

Canadian Variant Root

Plausible? I ask because I see a lot of American variant threads ETA's quite high due to a locked bootloader. Would we get these problems as well up there in the North?
Yes we're just as fcuked.
Last year Canada got Exynos variant with bootloader unlock, but this year Canadians are getting Snapdragon. Plus, rumors are maybe even the Exynos variants do not have bootloader unlock this year. We are waiting to see.
ChazzMatt said:
Last year Canada got Exynos variant with bootloader unlock, but this year Canadians are getting Snapdragon. Plus, rumors are maybe even the Exynos variants do not have bootloader unlock this year. We are waiting to see.
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Yup and if my exynos is boot-loader locked, that's a definite return!
cantenna said:
Yup and if my exynos is boot-loader locked, that's a definite return!
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Got my phone and it was a Snapdragon Im from Toronto Canada.. WTF why are we getting crappy US chip.
gemini002 said:
Got my phone and it was a Snapdragon Im from Toronto Canada.. WTF why are we getting crappy US chip.
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Because Canada is basically U.S. 51st state. Except for the French parts. You can keep those.
The reason is your carriers control the market and they don't want you to do whatever you want with your phone, that kind of thing cuts into profits. You share this with your friends in the US who also suffer carrier control of the market. Oligopolies are good for billionaires, not so much for consumers.
Give it 3-6 months and I'm sure we will get root like the US spec S7 did with the engineering bootloader. That said, if you search you can still do a lot of stuff you thought you needed root for. I haven't had a rooted device since my S6 and the only thing I really miss is Viper4Android, and Adaway. And this is coming from someone that would flash new roms multiple times a day. Trust me it is hard, but I kind of like the challenge to find workarounds without root. I guess I'm weird like that.
nappent said:
Give it 3-6 months and I'm sure we will get root like the US spec S7 did with the engineering bootloader. That said, if you search you can still do a lot of stuff you thought you needed root for. I haven't had a rooted device since my S6 and the only thing I really miss is Viper4Android, and Adaway. And this is coming from someone that would flash new roms multiple times a day. Trust me it is hard, but I kind of like the challenge to find workarounds without root. I guess I'm weird like that.
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Ya I have noot rooted since s5 . Phones are so fast now only thing is adaway miss that.
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ChazzMatt said:
Because Canada is basically U.S. 51st state. Except for the French parts. You can keep those.
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lol
What is the model number in Canada?
nappent said:
Give it 3-6 months and I'm sure we will get root like the US spec S7 did with the engineering bootloader. That said, if you search you can still do a lot of stuff you thought you needed root for. I haven't had a rooted device since my S6 and the only thing I really miss is Viper4Android, and Adaway. And this is coming from someone that would flash new roms multiple times a day. Trust me it is hard, but I kind of like the challenge to find workarounds without root. I guess I'm weird like that.
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Fairly new to this, but I always thought custom ROMs required root?
ChazzMatt said:
Because Canada is basically U.S. 51st state. Except for the French parts. You can keep those.
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says the dumb ignorant redneck. I blame your parents for your ignorance and stupidity.
gemini002 said:
Got my phone and it was a Snapdragon Im from Toronto Canada.. WTF why are we getting crappy US chip.
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ChazzMatt said:
Because Canada is basically U.S. 51st state. Except for the French parts. You can keep those.
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Relayers said:
says the dumb ignorant redneck. I blame your parents for your ignorance and stupidity.
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Hmmmm... You didn't use a smiley face like I did.
Nevertheless, Samsung is lumping Canada in with U.S. this year. Go talk to them.
Last year Canada got Exynos variant.
ChazzMatt said:
Because Canada is basically U.S. 51st state. Except for the French parts. You can keep those.
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Speaking as a proud Canadian: please take the French parts.
hemlock_0 said:
Speaking as a proud Canadian: please take the French parts.
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We in the U.S. already have some French:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_French
But they didn't try to split the country in half, like in Canada. Nor did they demand bilingual signage...
Besides it was a joke reference.
More likely the shared Snapdragon chipset is for possible roaming ability on Verizon or Sprint networks for Canadians who cross the border for vacation or business reasons. Snapdragon has the CDMA bands, while Exynos does not. I haven't researched it, but surely some of the Canadian carriers have roaming agreements with U.S. carriers? Including probably Verizon and Sprint.
n-j-f said:
What is the model number in Canada?
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SM-G955W for the S8+
n-j-f said:
What is the model number in Canada?
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Purchased from Fido in Canada:
Samsung Galaxy S8 SM-G950W
Android 7.0
Kernel 4.4.16-11449429
Baseband G950WVLS1AQF7
...which does not show OEM Unlock under Developer Options.
Chiming in as have the Canadian Telus Variant need root desperately. The ad "experience" is akin to a browser hijack. Feeling like Samsung actually give zero effs about me as a human... Or think I'm stupid. Or both.
GS955W is the model. It's a Qualcomm chipset. May return this if I can't root unless anyone knows how to get an adaware type experience, and remove/freeze bloatware without root?
britboy1976 said:
Chiming in as have the Canadian Telus Variant need root desperately. The ad "experience" is akin to a browser hijack. Feeling like Samsung actually give zero effs about me as a human... Or think I'm stupid. Or both.
GS955W is the model. It's a Qualcomm chipset. May return this if I can't root unless anyone knows how to get an adaware type experience, and remove/freeze bloatware without root?
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Bx package disabler and adguard work great without root
Anyone know if there's a root for this model yet?

Bootloader status

Hopefully someone can confirm the bootloader status of the Ultra for unlocked US or carrier phones. Since the S10 5G on Sprint was bootloader unlockable, this gives us a bit of hope for the S20 series. It doesn't appear any YouTube videos mention it. Why even invite these people when all of them report the exact same information. We need someone from XDA who cares about development to report on things we care about!
Which models are bootloader unlocked? It's sad i have to support my own phone to make it last more than the software upgrade limitation that samsung has no incentive if doing and every reason to buy a new one. Software company needs to be separated from each other.
@freeza you know Team Dart's got your back on this one
I will be getting a Galaxy s 20 ultra from Sprint on the 4th and I will confirm for you if you'd like to remind me then
Wow, the Sprint version was bl unlockable? That's crazy. Must have been a mistake, no?
Only I don't even see the option in mine
@freeza want to sell me your Mate 20 X Al00?
How did one go about unlocking the Sprint s10?
And Hello @freeza, been a long time since I have been on the same phone as you. I think the S3 was the last phone we worked on.
Scott said:
How did one go about unlocking the Sprint s10?
And Hello @freeza, been a long time since I have been on the same phone as you. I think the S3 was the last phone we worked on.
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Long time no see bro!
@freeza i got one today lol
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@freeza i got one today lol
The OEM Unlock switch? If so it doesn't have it on ATT....
sml20044 said:
The OEM Unlock switch? If so it doesn't have it on ATT....
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ATT is Bootloader Locked - unfortunately. So is Verizon and chances are TMobile Too. I read here that Sprint is unlocked, but I don't know if that is true or not - It sure would be nice if all Snapdragon devices had unlockable bootloaders - but I kind of doubt that will ever happen.
Geekser said:
ATT is Bootloader Locked - unfortunately. So is Verizon and chances are TMobile Too. I read here that Sprint is unlocked, but I don't know if that is true or not - It sure would be nice if all Snapdragon devices had unlockable bootloaders - but I kind of doubt that will ever happen.
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Sprint here
Locked
ricohz said:
Sprint here
Locked
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My phone is 988U (Verizon) and LOCKED bootloader.. i was able to flash my device 988U1 and debloat Verizon software but unable to unlock bootloader.. i dont know if anyone will be able to unlock bootloader in future..
eczanet said:
My phone is 988U (Verizon) and LOCKED bootloader.. i was able to flash my device 988U1 and debloat Verizon software but unable to unlock bootloader.. i dont know if anyone will be able to unlock bootloader in future..
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can you please provide the reference material on how to flash and remove bloatware ?? i have at&t ultra but its unlocked running t mobile i would prefer to run there official software. thanks for any help
Scott said:
How did one go about unlocking the Sprint s10?
And Hello @freeza, been a long time since I have been on the same phone as you. I think the S3 was the last phone we worked on.
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sprint s10 5g aka g977p is bl unlockable
No we wont unlock the bootloader of the US s20 variants because we are lazy and we hate samsung
ylujan003 said:
No we wont unlock the bootloader of the US s20 variants because we are lazy and we hate samsung
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yea, ok.. u cant even do it cuz ur lazy lmao
Unlocking a galaxy s20 ultras bootloader
I was just curious if their was any success reguarding unlocking a at&t galaxy s20 ultra bootload ... id love to root this device but it seems AT&T doesn't agree and people iv talked to in the past wernt sure if their would ever be a way
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I was just curious if their was any success reguarding unlocking a at&t galaxy s20 ultra bootload ... id love to root this device but it seems AT&T doesn't agree and people iv talked to in the past wernt sure if their would ever be a way
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[SNAPDRAGON] Note 20 Ultra Bootloader Unlock Info

Hi, please post here which Note 20 Ultra Snapdragon Version Code have the Bootloader unlockable.
I hope this thread may be usefull for people that want to buy a Note 20 Ultra with snapdragon processor and root it.
I'll update this OP with the code unlockable.
Models Unlockable
SM-N986N (KOREAN)
SM-N9860 (CHINA)
Thanks
Tonisauffa
HK version is rootable
Korean version should be rootable too.
dallen5 said:
HK version is rootable
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Let me know the code please.
dallen5 said:
HK version is rootable
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mustasusi said:
Korean version should be rootable too.
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What are the code name? Thanks
tonisauffa said:
What are the code name? Thanks
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SM-N9860
tonisauffa said:
What are the code name? Thanks
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SM-N986N for the Korean.
Is it still necessary to root these phones?
marvi0 said:
Is it still necessary to root these phones?
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This is not the point and your question is off topic.
OP Update
tonisauffa said:
Hi, please post here which Note 20 Ultra Snapdragon Version Code have the Bootloader unlockable.
I hope this thread may be usefull for people that want to buy a Note 20 Ultra with snapdragon processor and root it.
I'll update this OP with the code unlockable.
Models Unlockable
SM-N986N (KOREAN)
SM-N9860 (CHINA)
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Tonisauffa
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Is the sm-N986U1 oem unlockable??
Noahberrios2 said:
Is the sm-N986U1 oem unlockable??
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No.
MrMike2182 said:
No.
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Yes it is for $150 dollars. See https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-20-ultra-root-us-unlocked-snapdragon-865/
testrak said:
Yes it is for $150 dollars. See https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-20-ultra-root-us-unlocked-snapdragon-865/
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Interesting.. I wonder if that really works.
Yes it works for Snapdragon SM-N986U
Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk
butchieboy said:
Yes it works for Snapdragon SM-N986U
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Is this still available? Has someone rooted with them? I was going to buy the Note 20 Ultra Exynos to be able to have call recording by changing the CSC to thailand ... but if I can have the snapdragon would be much better... Can anyone that has used that share their experience with this service? I would pay $150 to have the call recording. Even if don't want the LIMITATIONS of rooting but would prefer to have the better Battery life of the snapdragon... This seems like the only way to get call recording on a snapdragon phone...
Yes...goodluck..lol
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So are the Tmobile versions of Snapdragon BL unlockable this year?? I'm seeing stuff online about it but don't believe all of it..
DionWhite33 said:
So are the Tmobile versions of Snapdragon BL unlockable this year?? I'm seeing stuff online about it but don't believe all of it..
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All NA snapdragons are the same hardware regardless of carrier. They are unlockable via a paid process. Not a toggle like non north american snapdragons or exynos.
pcriz said:
All NA snapdragons are the same hardware regardless of carrier. They are unlockable via a paid process. Not a toggle like non north american snapdragons or exynos.
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That's what I thought after reading a couple XDA comments about having to pay I'll see. But then I read an article where a guy like the rest of us was buying International versions for the last three or four years. And he said this year he bought the unlocked version for T-Mobile for better service and he routed it and unlock the bootloader all by himself. Basically by going into developer settings and checking the OEM unlock button like we used to do. Or like we still do with the exynos variants.. I appreciate you letting me know. I'll just buy International again. I'm not going to pay all that extra money.

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